S08.E16: Emotional Roller Coaster

[GreatKazu]

8 hours ago, Sprockets said:

Above all, this idea shows how utterly clueless she is about Jace's issues regarding David, DESPITE having been told about them.  I think she should have Keifer walk her down the aisle - assuming he isnt in prison, of course.  

Jenelle should have had Dustin walk her down the aisle. 

Edited October 18, 2017 by GreatKazu
added in "had" since she is already married to that toxic waste

[MelineB13]

Y'all know I am never one to defend Jenelle, but I think the point she was trying to make to Barb is that while yes, a pediatrician is capable of prescribing meds for anxiety/moods/adhd/etc, Jace probably should have seen a psychiatrist earlier to really get to the root of issues and make sure the medication is actually needed and correctly being used. Barb has been running around citing all these issues Jace has that require him to stay with her and to hear she'd never taken him to a specialist, I can imagine Jenelle's frustration. 

It's like, yes, an ER doc is perfectly capable of setting a broken bone. But I'd prefer to go to an orthopedist for follow up to confirm the treatment. Or yes, your GP can diagnose a tumor, but you should go to an oncologist for an actual treatment plan. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

And even the most mentally stable person on the planet would have issues if in Jace's position, and given that one of Jenelle's siblings has schizophrenia and there is obviously something very off with Jenelle mentally (and I think Barb has her issues, too), Jace may not be the most mentally stable person to begin with.  So I think serious care would be in order, and the sooner the better.

I just wish it wasn't all on TV.  There are efforts to de-stigmatize mental illness, but it's not going to go away in Jace's lifetime.  On the one hand, if he turns out as terrible as most of us fear, then there would be some common knowledge (and possibly forgiveness) on how he got that way, but I still worry that if he had a choice, he might not want the world to know that he's been diagnosed with ADHD and has had violent outbursts and is acting in a way that is prompting therapy.

[GreatKazu]

36 minutes ago, MelineB13 said:

Y'all know I am never one to defend Jenelle, but I think the point she was trying to make to Barb is that while yes, a pediatrician is capable of prescribing meds for anxiety/moods/adhd/etc, Jace probably should have seen a psychiatrist earlier to really get to the root of issues and make sure the medication is actually needed and correctly being used. Barb has been running around citing all these issues Jace has that require him to stay with her and to hear she'd never taken him to a specialist, I can imagine Jenelle's frustration. 

It's like, yes, an ER doc is perfectly capable of setting a broken bone. But I'd prefer to go to an orthopedist for follow up to confirm the treatment. Or yes, your GP can diagnose a tumor, but you should go to an oncologist for an actual treatment plan. 

Jenelle gets major eye roll from me and a middle finger.

What Jenelle is doing is, she is exercising her new-found control over Jace. She was just recently ordered to have the right to access Jace's medical and school records. With all of that documentation in her hands, she and UBT likely sat down and skimmed through it all. I can see UBT telling Jenelle, Barb is the one with a screw loose and she is now going to screw up Jace like she did all her kids. 

Jenelle had plenty of time to inquire about Jace's health and mental well-being since he was first diagnosed. She didn't need to have custody of him to show her concern or to go with her mother to Jace's doctor's visits.  Just because she didn't have custody of him or have the legal power to act on his behalf, that doesn't mean she couldn't have had a well-meaning sit down with her mother to discuss Jace's overall health and give her input on what she would like for Jace. Jenelle acts like all of a sudden she was hearing for the first time about his mental issues and his medication. Barb informed Jenelle at least three years ago about his mental health problems. Why didn't she say something about it then? All she said was she was worried about Jace becoming addicted to the meds. That was the extent of her concern. Jenelle had no care about Jace. She never attended any of his school meetings when Barb asked her to. Jenelle couldn't bother to inquire about what was happening in Jace's life because, as usual, everything is about Jenelle. She was too involved with her various boyfriends. She always had an excuse for why she couldn't devote any time for Jace. She couldn't even be there for Jace's soap box derby because she had to go to spring break. I haven't forgotten the popcorn fiasco that Jenelle couldn't bother with because it was more important to stick it to Barb than to help her own child. 

Edited October 17, 2017 by GreatKazu

[TheRealT]

5 hours ago, UBT said:

It makes me so sad to hear Jace dropping his truth bombs and then saying “Jk.” He wants her to hear him but he is afraid. But she is too busy thinking about her swamp wedding and her trip to NY to listen. 

Even if she didn't have an impending wedding and trip, Jenelle wouldn't care. She has NEVER cared about Jace, not even in a small way. I honestly don't think she even likes him like a little brother (which is how their relationship has often been described). I could see a fucked up, self-involved young adult who genuinely got a kick out of her elementary school brother and enjoyed spending time with him when she wasn't busy with her boyfriend/friends, but that's not Jenelle. I have never seen her seem to genuinely enjoy or care about any of her kids, except seemingly enjoying cooing over Ensley when she was high a few times.

4 hours ago, jumper sage said:

Endora is cool but she did marginalize Darrin quite a bit.

I always hated Darrin and thought he was a dick to try to keep Samantha from using magic, so I liked it when Endora belittled him.

3 hours ago, AirQuotes said:

The whole wedding business of having Jace walk her down the aisle and "give her away" is totally inappropriate in every way.

The thing is, Jenelle KNOWS that Jace doesn't like UBT, she knows he doesn't want her to marry him, and she knows exactly why (even better than Barb or Jace's therapist do). But she doesn't give a fuck about Jace or his feelings, even though she knows he's struggling emotionally. Whenever the issue comes up, from Barb or from Jace, she makes it very clear that she doesn't give a fuck how Jace feels about UBT and she's not even interested in discussing it. Making Jace give her away at their stupid wedding is just sick under those circumstances.

1 hour ago, CaliforniaLove said:

I loved Jenelle's little "woe is me, I don't have a daddy to walk me down the aisle" speech...which she gave to her son...who has no father in his life.

Exactly. It's just like her whining about people being unresponsive to her tears (which are always about herself) while she regularly ignores her sobbing children.

44 minutes ago, MelineB13 said:

Y'all know I am never one to defend Jenelle, but I think the point she was trying to make to Barb is that while yes, a pediatrician is capable of prescribing meds for anxiety/moods/adhd/etc, Jace probably should have seen a psychiatrist earlier to really get to the root of issues and make sure the medication is actually needed and correctly being used. Barb has been running around citing all these issues Jace has that require him to stay with her and to hear she'd never taken him to a specialist, I can imagine Jenelle's frustration. 

It's like, yes, an ER doc is perfectly capable of setting a broken bone. But I'd prefer to go to an orthopedist for follow up to confirm the treatment. Or yes, your GP can diagnose a tumor, but you should go to an oncologist for an actual treatment plan. 

If Jenelle gave a fuck about Jace's medical treatment, she wouldn't be addressing this issue for the first time in a gas station parking lot years after Jace's initial diagnosis. She has already been granted access to Jace's medical records, so she could have looked up who was prescribing his meds for herself if she were truly so concerned. She just wanted to berate Barb on camera and she's so delusional that she actually thinks people will buy into her bullshit and question Barb's fitness as a parent if she raises "legitimate medical issues."

Edited October 17, 2017 by TheRealT

[Sprockets]

2 minutes ago, TheRealT said:

If Jenelle gave a fuck about Jace's medical treatment, she wouldn't be addressing this issue for the first time in a gas station parking lot years after Jace's initial diagnosis.

This.  Ergo, she gives not one fuck.  

[HoosierJen]

Yeah, Briana, that's a really rough life you've got there. As opposed to when I found out that my baby had holes in her heart and I had to -- you know -- go to work the next day. There are lots of parents who have children with health issues, and we don't all get to sit at home all day and collect a paycheck from Mtv. Some of us have to continue to go to work and stress over how to pay the regular bills along with the pediatric cardiologist bills, all while worrying over our child's health.

But with that stupid sister complaining how they never get a break -- shut your stupid mouth. You all are getting paid to sit around and bitch.....and here I am doing it for free!

[BitterApple]

Jenelle is such a lazy bitch. She had no time in her day to swing by a CVS and grab some wrapping paper? And Jace was absolutely NOT joking when he said he didn't want her to marry David. You could see by the way Jenelle's face hardened that she was pissed he said so on camera. 

Regarding Briana, I know her family is doing a bang-up job of driving Luis away, but when I saw Luis with Stella you could tell he had no real attachment or affection for her. Even if he couldn't leave school to see her earlier, you'd think he would've at least called to get details and be part of the decision making when it came to Stella's heart condition. 

Kail needs to have several seats with her fake drama. You could tell she was just dying to go into early labor so she could milk it for all its worth. The demeanor and facial expressions of those doctors on the beach was awesome.

They must have some seriously good pillses in West Virginia, because Mama Dawn was positively looped in her scenes with Leah. 

Chelsea was boring, although Aubree and Watson are cute. 

[TeeMo]

17 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

It still comes off illogical because didn't she say "both"? She has three kids. 

Ali and Gracie are one entity to her - "the girlses" and Addie is another. She never treats the twins as individuals. 

[politichick]

OMG. What my brain would have been thinking if I were Luis when Brianna's mother was running her fucking mouth is that I want to beat you down so hard that lupus will feel like a walk in the park. She is the absolute worst! And she had the nerve to say she's always been nice to him? I know he's a deadbeat but she is the worst with that nasty mouth and foul attitude.

[Pepper Mostly]

1 hour ago, TheRealT said:

Even if she didn't have an impending wedding and trip, Jenelle wouldn't care. She has NEVER cared about Jace, not even in a small way. I honestly don't think she even likes him like a little brother (which is how their relationship has often been described). I could see a fucked up, self-involved young adult who genuinely got a kick out of her elementary school brother and enjoyed spending time with him when she wasn't busy with her boyfriend/friends, but that's not Jenelle. I have never seen her seem to genuinely enjoy or care about any of her kids, except seemingly enjoying cooing over Ensley when she was high a few times.

Bingo. She only cares about Jace as a pawn--a club to beat her mother with, a prop to play her "poor me" games with her succession of loser boyfriends. She does not care one whit about that little boy. She doesn't think of him, or any of her kids, as a real person. 

[dabronx]

She can fuck off about prescriptions. For one thing there's behavioral pediatricians that specialize in this and that exactly who jace could be seeing. Also quite likely that even if Barb wanted to take him to psychologist there are fuck all health plans that cover it and fuck all psychologists that will take insurance even if they did cover it. This has been my friends experience in trying to get help for her son. Janelle can suck it a million times over. 

[Liamsmom617]

 A word in Leah's defense here: I know she's made her mistakes (understatement), but I think we all agree that she loves her girls. Parenthood can be overwhelming in the best of circumstances, but she's got some extreme shit going on. Speaking as a Mom of three (mine are all teens now), including a son w/an intellectual disability and fraternal twin girls, I can attest that it can seem nearly impossible, some days, to keep everyone happy. I'm college-educated (MSW) and planned my kids; I'm divorced from their Dad, and he has them every other weekend. So yes, Leah has more "time off" from parenting all 3 of her kids than I do (I work FT), but still. It is really really difficult dealing w/the twin dynamic (my girls are also fraternal and are extremely competitive w/each other for my attention, affection, "perks" etc.), not to mention one child (in my case, my son) often getting more attention b/c of his special needs. My girls know and understand why their brother needs more of my help at times, but that doesn't stop them from complaining about it and insisting that their brother is my "favorite" and how unfair it is. It's all par for the course....They're good kids and they know the deal, but they're still kids. So I'm just saying that I get how a fairly uneducated, unprepared person like Leah could be overwhelmed with it all at times.

 I know Leah and Corey don't always do what posters here feel they "should" re: Ali and her wheelchair, etc., but I am here to tell you that even when you know better, at times you just want to see your kid happy and not feeling deprived or "less than" their non-disabled siblings/peers. It's so hard sometimes, even when you know what you "should" do, not to just let them do what they want for 5 minutes to see them happy. As for Busch Gardens...we do Kings Dominion every summer, and trying to make everyone happy (one doesn't want to ride a certain ride; the other 2 do; I don't want to leave one standing alone to ride w/the other two, etc.) is a huge challenge. 

  So....there's my two cents. All that said, Jennelle is a worthless POS and I am enjoying all the "whale" comments about Kail much more than a person my age should be. 

Edited October 17, 2017 by Liamsmom617

[neece26]

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It makes me so sad to hear Jace dropping his truth bombs and then saying “Jk.” He wants her to hear him but he is afraid. But she is too busy thinking about her swamp wedding and her trip to NY to listen. 

Jace sits in the backseat with a blank face and flashes a fake smile when Jenelle turns around to look at him, then immediately goes back to the blank face.  I feel so bad for this poor kid.

 

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Janelle "We're going to New York!"

Jace " Oh."

I think Janelle expected a little more enthusiasm from Jace. I'm sure it's Barb's fault.

 

Why would he be enthused?  It's not like she presented it to him like a fun New York trip to do things that a kid would get excited about.  What 8 year old boy would be interested in going to pick up a wedding dress? 

And also, can she control herself just ONE time to not start something with Barb at a drop off?   They say when you argue in front of kids it changes who they are, so take note Janelle. (and Farrah, Briana too)

 

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OMG. What my brain would have been thinking if I were Luis when Brianna's mother was running her fucking mouth is that I want to beat you down so hard that lupus will feel like a walk in the park. She is the absolute worst! And she had the nerve to say she's always been nice to him? I know he's a deadbeat but she is the worst with that nasty mouth and foul attitude.

Exactly.  STFU Roxanne.  What a shrew she is!!!  And Brittany wishing an STD on him in front of little Nova.... this family is insane.

[citychic]

3 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I might be mistaken, but I though Kail sent him the proof. I thought the conversation was she went to the court to get proof, took a photo of it and then sent it to him. The court would have a stamp on it showing when it was dropped. 

I had posted yesterday the idea that Kail planned to give birth out of the country, but now that you mentioned her wanting the extra attention on her (which I think is also the case), I am with the other poster who felt this was to see if Chris would fly his ass down there to be with her and it would just prove to her he wants her, and it would be something to showcase to the "hatters". If not that, the excuse would be that Chris wasn't with her for the birth because she was out of the country. Going by next week's "peak preview" she is all upset at the idea of Chris not being there for the birth. In real time, we know he was there at the hospital which is why she paid that security company to send one of their employees to "protect her from the paps" while also calling the paps to let them know she was being released from the hospital. 

This bitch is fucking insane! 

Yes, you're right she did send him a screenshot of the proof. I know the date would be on the paper but the way Kail sounded to me was like she was playing a game with Javi and she hadn't done it yet. Maybe out of spite, maybe out of laziness but either way I'm pretty sure Javi knew something was up and that's why he was holding out on cancelling the court date.

It's hilarious to watch her facial expressions sometimes when she gets called on her shit. There was one time where she was complaining about Jo filing the support order but not telling her in advance. She said something along the lines of "That's not how people treat each other" or something like that but right as she said it she caught herself and realized that Jo was doing to her exactly what she had done to him.

[Sprockets]

47 minutes ago, dabronx said:

Janelle can suck it a million times over. 

And you know she has.  

[bounnatalie]

3 hours ago, MelineB13 said:

Y'all know I am never one to defend Jenelle, but I think the point she was trying to make to Barb is that while yes, a pediatrician is capable of prescribing meds for anxiety/moods/adhd/etc, Jace probably should have seen a psychiatrist earlier to really get to the root of issues and make sure the medication is actually needed and correctly being used. Barb has been running around citing all these issues Jace has that require him to stay with her and to hear she'd never taken him to a specialist, I can imagine Jenelle's frustration. 

It's like, yes, an ER doc is perfectly capable of setting a broken bone. But I'd prefer to go to an orthopedist for follow up to confirm the treatment. Or yes, your GP can diagnose a tumor, but you should go to an oncologist for an actual treatment plan. 

I appreciate your point but wanted to add my experience going through the process. Yes, our pediatrician can prescribe medications but first referred us to a neuropsychologist who did a very in depth evaluation.  From there, we discussed if and what type of medications would be beneficial based on the neuropsych recommendations. We then saw therapist (not a psychiatrist but a LICSW) who worked specifically on my child's behavioral issues  that were related to a learning disability. If Janelle had been involved in the initial visits where Jace was evaluated and then prescribed medications, she may know more about the process he went through. All of a sudden, she wants to just say what's best for him (psychiatrist or bust) rather than understand what his needs are and his current situation. He may not need a psychiatrist, but who knows, Barbara couldn't speak over Janelle's yelling.   It would have been nice if we knew what Barbara was going to say....

[TGinKY]

Rewinding back to when Leah first found out about Ali's condition - I remember her using a phrase very close to what Gracie used in tonight's episode.  Leah said there was not enough room for Ali and that was the reason for Ali's problems.  I think Leah said that in front of Gracie enough times that Gracie started believing it. You have a big mouth Leah and a small brain.

[Sprockets]

5 minutes ago, bounnatalie said:

If Janelle had been involved in the initial visits where Jace was evaluated and then prescribed medications, she may know more about the process he went through

Or she could just ask, in an indoor voice, and not in front of Jace.  If she cared, that is.  Which she doesn't.  

3 minutes ago, TGinKY said:

I think Leah said that in front of Gracie enough times that Gracie started believing it. You have a big mouth Leah and a small brain.

Exactly.  Because how else would Gracie get that idea?  Leah is dumber than a bag of hair extensions.  

[GreatKazu]

48 minutes ago, TGinKY said:

Rewinding back to when Leah first found out about Ali's condition - I remember her using a phrase very close to what Gracie used in tonight's episode.  Leah said there was not enough room for Ali and that was the reason for Ali's problems.  I think Leah said that in front of Gracie enough times that Gracie started believing it. You have a big mouth Leah and a small brain.

That is the problem with all of these parents - they speak in front of their kids and say things their kids shouldn't hear. I recall the early episodes when Leah was saying ON CAMERA how there wasn't enough room for Ali in utero. My mind thought then, this idiot is saying this on camera. Even if Gracie wasn't hearing this talk in person, she would surely hear it when she watches the show later on or she would read about it online somewhere. Obviously, Leah and company just couldn't shut up and keep those conversations away from the kids and the camera. 

Bottom line re Jenelle and her sudden concern for Jace and his meds, she just always has to attack Barb about something. She can't go a day without bad-mouthing her mother or blaming her for something. Her new storyline is to blame Barb for this whole issue about the meds and psychiatrist.

Jenelle is so consumed with trying to make Barb look like a bad person. She has accused her of taking Jace from her. She has written a book where she pretty much painted Barb as a horrible person while making her abusive dad seem like he was a loving parent. She tried to accuse Barb of DUI with the kids.  She is now trying to make Barb look as if she failed Jace by accusing her of not taking him to a psychiatrist for his meds. If Jenelle had done her homework on the internet, she'd know that it is not unusual for pediatricians and general practitioners to prescribe medications for mental health. If the person's mental health issue escalates or doesn't seem to respond to the medications, the doctor will refer the patient out to a specialist such as a psychiatrist. Jenelle also fails to understand that health insurance can make it hard for patients to see a psychiatrist or specialist right away. 

Jenelle doesn't have enough legal power to contact the doctors herself and inquire about Jace's mental health. All she is allowed to have are his records. That gave her just enough to start this verbal attack and interrogation of her mother. I know UBT is the one who instigated this whole thing and fueled the fire within Jenelle. And of course, we know Jenelle is just his mouthpiece and has to do what he says or else. 

Edited October 18, 2017 by GreatKazu

[guilfoyleatpp]

4 hours ago, CaliforniaLove said:

I loved Jenelle's little "woe is me, I don't have a daddy to walk me down the aisle" speech...which she gave to her son...who has no father in his life.

This is fucking brilliant. I didn't catch that before, but yes, absolutely.

46 minutes ago, TGinKY said:

Rewinding back to when Leah first found out about Ali's condition - I remember her using a phrase very close to what Gracie used in tonight's episode.  Leah said there was not enough room for Ali and that was the reason for Ali's problems.  I think Leah said that in front of Gracie enough times that Gracie started believing it. You have a big mouth Leah and a small brain.

I was thinking about when she said that too. At the time she also choked out that she (leah) worried it was because she was so small, but probably Gracie caught that at least a couple of times.

 

Further, Roxanne is a ghoul to get so much pleasure from the misery of others. It's all just an excuse for her to say terrible things.  I can't imagine growing up with a ghoul as a mother. And Lewisssss should have told brianna right then and there that her own mother is the reason she can never have a good relationship with a man. Roxanne would not only not allow it, she will do everything in her power to sabotage it.

[Christina87]

Hahahaha I laughed so hard at, "I wish the twins were the same age!" Gave me a flashback to that time Leah was talking to her mom, and said, "I talked to my mom the other day, and blah blah blah." Girlfriend is NOT good at pretending to be sober! I did like her talk with Ali a lot, though. If she can stay off the pills, she is a 100% better mom! I could tell dawn was really high, for sure. 

I really hate Jenelle more and more each week. I wonder if UBT has made her a more hateful person, or if she has always been this nasty and it's coming out now. She just seems so much more unbearable than before, especially towards barb. The look in Jenelle's eye when jace said he didn't want her to marry UBT was scary. I also thought it was interesting that he didn't IMMEDIATELY say, "just kidding." I wonder if he wanted to actually talk about it. I wish he could get his feelings out there with no judgment! The way Jenelle said, "he teaches you a lot," was chilling, like, "you'd better be glad he does stuff for you, you ungrateful asshole." I could tell that barb was TRYING to keep her calm at the gas station, which she seems to be working on. Go barb!!!

i didn't think Luis seemed bonded to Stella, or like he cared that much, but the least they could have done was said thank you! He brought diapers and is at least putting forward some effort. It's literally his first day off! Why can't Roxanne just pretend to be pleasant? I wish Luis wasn't a loser, and would file for joint custody so he wouldn't be subject to their abuse. 

[Sprockets]

3 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

And Lewisssss should have told brianna right then and there that her own mother is the reason she can never have a good relationship with a man.

Exactly.  The daughters need to get away from that shrewbitch from hell.  I feel like Briane and Luis could probably be civil to each other without Screechy McCuntface always ramping up the drama.  That is no fit environment for Nova or Stella either.  

Edited October 18, 2017 by Sprockets
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[Adiba]

1 hour ago, dabronx said:

She can fuck off about prescriptions. For one thing there's behavioral pediatricians that specialize in this and that exactly who jace could be seeing. Also quite likely that even if Barb wanted to take him to psychologist there are fuck all health plans that cover it and fuck all psychologists that will take insurance even if they did cover it. This has been my friends experience in trying to get help for her son. Janelle can suck it a million times over. 

Ah yes, the insurance maze--been there. Some plans hardly cover anything and require you to jump through hoops before they will. Also, it is not always easy to find a psychiatrist who specializes in children and adolescents, takes your insurance, is accepting new patients,  and is within a reasonable driving distance.

Jenelle just wanted to bitch to her mother about something, so she harped on the psychiatrist thing, imo. She doesn't really care.

[DudeLeaveMeAlone]

Hey Roxanne, you know who is a punk, bitch? YOU. You’re so considerate to expose your newborn granddaughter, with a HEART DEFECT, to second hand smoke. I can’t with this bitch.

[toodywoody]

Stop yelling, stop yelling. Barb is trying to talk and Jenelle just wont shut up. And she can stfu about if she was involved since the beginning. She would be too high in her room to do shit about Jace. And maybe Barb knows the signs since her own son has problems and took Jace because of her past experiences. But oh no, it is a bad idea because it wasn't Jenelle's idea but if she would stfu and listen but no she has to talk over everyone and must hearing herself. 

Kail is stupid. I swear. Maybe you are swollen because you're an idiot who shouldn't have went on vacation to somewhere warm at 35 weeks. 

I swear these two make my head explode.

[GreatKazu]

12 hours ago, beesknees said:

OMG this made my morning! as I'm trudging off to school for 2 big exams and 11 hrs. of BS with day and night classes (sigh).  Who the frick goes out of the country right before giving birth? I'm looking at you Kwhale.  (Okay, that was a typo but I'm keeping it.  BAH!  Fits.)  Um, couldn't Karl have gone on vacay another time?  Another place?  A mini vacay or something closer to home near water? I mean ...  So stupid.  The nurse looked miffed trying to explain the obvi.  Why was Kailyn so sunburned?  She is irritating me.  When the camera panned down to her fat ankles you could see her lobster-red sunburn line against snow white skin where her sandals had been.  Looked highly painful on top of everything else.

 

Bolding mine: THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!! I wish I had thought of that!!! lol 

Hope you did great on those exams! :-) 

12 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

Karl is so stupid she doesn't realize she needs a marine biologist, she looks like a fucking manatee that's been hit by multiple boat propellers.

How much longer before the PTV road trip arrives and gives Jenelle the beating of her life?

Bwhahahahahaha!!! I have tears! lol

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I just don't see what having previous miscarriages has to do with pre-E. She just wanted attention. I think she legit WANTED to give birth out of the country. Did you hear her planning which island they could go to? I bet it had something to do with Chris - punish him by having the baby without him. While also garnering a bunch of press. She's crazy! When the doctors cleared her? I never saw someone so disappointed to not have a life threatening issue. 

@ghoulina This post of yours made me think Kwale was trying to do an Anna Nicole with Baby Suds. 

[woodscommaelle]

23 hours ago, Sprockets said:

Roxanne is such a c***.  She is absolutely the most low-class person I have ever seen on TV, and I used to watch Jerry Springer.  If Briane ever wants to see Luis on a regular basis, she's going to have to find some way to shut Roxanne up.  Maybe get her own place?  

The way she speaks to Luis reminds me of Susie and Larry David on Curb. 

[nikita]

44 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

I was thinking about when she said that too. At the time she also choked out that she (leah) worried it was because she was so small, but probably Gracie caught that at least a couple of times.

This is what I remember. Leah worried she was too thin to have carried twins.

[ilovetrashtv]

I don't know who is in charge of editing this season, but the voiceovers are so horrible even I notice them, and I only half watch this show. For example, they had Leah re-record parts of the conversation with her mom and then insert those new clips while they aren't showing her face. Last week I noticed it with Kail several times. The inserted sound clip is completely different than the surrounding audio. I just wanna know how dumb they think we are.

Edited October 18, 2017 by ilovetrashtv

[monicageller]

Briana to Luis: 'You can put it anywhere'. That is what got y'all into this situation in the first place.

[GreatKazu]

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Janelle can suck it a million times over. 

 

2 hours ago, Sprockets said:

And you know she has.  

Except for those three times she ended up pregnant and giving birth. Damn. 

 

16 minutes ago, ilovetrashtv said:

I don't know who is in charge of editing this season, but the voiceovers are so horrible even I notice them, and I only half watch this show. For example, they had Leah re-record parts of the conversation with her mom and then insert those new clips while they aren't showing her face. Last week I noticed it with Kail several times. The inserted sound clip is completely different than the surrounding audio. I just wanna know how dumb they think we are.

I pointed this out last week with the scene with Jenelle talking to Barb while driving. MTV's editing has always been wonky, but it seems like it is getting worse. 

Edited October 18, 2017 by GreatKazu

[nikita]

38 minutes ago, ilovetrashtv said:

I don't know who is in charge of editing this season, but the voiceovers are so horrible even I notice them, and I only half watch this show. For example, they had Leah re-record parts of the conversation with her mom and then insert those new clips while they aren't showing her face. Last week I noticed it with Kail several times. The inserted sound clip is completely different than the surrounding audio. I just wanna know how dumb they think we are.

Yes, I've noticed! And it's more noticeable than in previous seasons. Well, if they think we are dumb, I think they are lazy. Match that sh!t up!

[jumper sage]

6 hours ago, TheRealT said:

I always hated Darrin and thought he was a dick to try to keep Samantha from using magic, so I liked it when Endora belittled him.

Ok how about Ursula or WWoW (wicked witch of the west) or Elphaba (wicked witch of the west real name)?

[KittyKat133]

So the coven bitches about Luis constantly and their big thing was "diapers and wipes, get a job, etc." 

The guy shows up with diapers and wipes, explains he's been in training, and mother of the coven STILL laces into him the second she walks through the door! 

He is no prize, he's a loser, but he is putting up with some SERIOUS abuse just so he can see his daughter. How can she possibly think he would want to be around more? All they do is make him feel like shit and verbally abuse him! Mother of the coven doesn't get it. Maybe if it was pleasant for him to be there he would come around more! 

[SPLAIN]

13 hours ago, AirQuotes said:

One last thing about Leah...well, two things.  Her mom helped her shamelessly plug her over-priced MLM lipstick and at Busch Gardens she had all 3 kids piled on Ali's motorized wheelchair.  Wait, one more thing that is confusing me.  This episode they are going back and forth between calling Gracie Aleeanah or whatever.  Even in the subtitles it switches her name.

 

 

I have heard Leah refer to her as both names, Aleeah and Gracie. Pretty normal.

This screencap is from over a year ago and you can see her full name is shown on screen:

 

I see that motorized wheelchair still being used as a fucking toy. Sadly, that is also normal. Make them damn lazy kids walk!!! Sheesh.

Edited October 18, 2017 by SPLAIN

[SPLAIN]

9 hours ago, MelineB13 said:

Y'all know I am never one to defend Jenelle, but I think the point she was trying to make to Barb is that while yes, a pediatrician is capable of prescribing meds for anxiety/moods/adhd/etc, Jace probably should have seen a psychiatrist earlier to really get to the root of issues and make sure the medication is actually needed and correctly being used. Barb has been running around citing all these issues Jace has that require him to stay with her and to hear she'd never taken him to a specialist, I can imagine Jenelle's frustration. 

It's like, yes, an ER doc is perfectly capable of setting a broken bone. But I'd prefer to go to an orthopedist for follow up to confirm the treatment. Or yes, your GP can diagnose a tumor, but you should go to an oncologist for an actual treatment plan. 

Under certain circumstances, and if we were talking about a different parent, I would normally agree. But this is Jenelle. If you watch the show, you know Jenelle does not have an ounce of care for her children. None. They are possessions to her. She has also spent the last 7 years of her life in toxic relationships, drug addiction, committing crimes such as domestic violence, getting pregnant, getting engaged, going on countless vacations, going out of town for events, and moving farther and farther away from Jace. She has also given numerous excuses as to why she couldn't pick Jace up, why she couldn't have him at her home for visitation, she was too tired or whatever nonsense excuse she'd throw at Barb.  She ignored Jace for the most part.  Never did Jenelle seek time with Jace without someone pushing her to do it. Jenelle's only frustrations are the ones she makes up in her head.

Barb mentioned  to Jenelle on several occasions how Jace had become aggressive. Jenelle gave reasons such as he needed more discipline, he needs to listen more, she even said he needed to go to military school. He was only four years old. Not once did I hear her say, "How about we take him to the doctor and get him referred to a specialist if needed?" She even said if he lived with her he would behave better. No concerns whatsoever about her child possibly having mental issues or a neurological disorder.

I would like to point out that lovely scene when Barb visited Jenelle at her home almost two years ago. A discussion took place where Barb brought to Jenelle's attention about going out of town to help her other daughter. Jenelle threw a huge tantrum. She used profanity when screaming at Barb about all the health problems she has been going through and how she had to travel to New York. This was when Jenelle was faking her countless symptoms and illnesses. She told Barb how she is never there for her and doesn't care about her being ill. After Barb left, Kaiser went up to Jenelle to offer her comfort, but she shunned him. She does that a lot to her children. Jenelle cries and demands attention from her own mother when she is supposedly ill, but she can't bother to do the same for her own flesh and blood who was diagnosed over three years ago? God knows how many times Jace was ill in those 7 years, but Jenelle was not there for him the way she demanded her mother be there for her. 

My observation about Jenelle, and her scenes seem to confirm my opinion, that she has never cared about or been there for Jace during his own health problems.  This skank couldn't even bother to give Jace his earache medication when he was staying at her house.  We wouldn't have known this if Barb had not mentioned it. Who is Jenelle to point a finger at Jace's parent and grandmother who has been tending to his needs and health for the past 7 years? It took Jenelle 7 years to finally go to court to try and acquire custody, and she only did it because her boyfriend pushed her to file. These two morons have no care about any of the children in their care. Jenelle can spare me with her uneducated comments about what she thinks she knows about mental health care. She doesn't even take care of her own mental health. Her way of handling it is smoking weed, even while pregnant. She didn't care about the well-being or health of her daughter who happened to be born with THC in her system.

Jenelle's response on the reunion when Jace's ADHD was brought up:

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"The medicine he's taking, it's a controlled substance, and I'm afraid when he gets older, if he's still on it, if his friends are like, 'Oh, let me get some of that,' or something," she said.

Jenelle's only concern was Jace's friends trying to get high with his medication. She didn't care back then that he was prescribed the medicine by a pediatrician. She was too busy fighting with Nathan and being David's sex toy to care about Jace at all.

Jenelle mentioned a few episodes back how Jace is acting out because he wants to live with her. Yes, Jenelle. By simply moving in with you permanently, all his mental problems will go away: https://www.inquisitr.com/4428201/jenelle-evans-blames-jaces-outbursts-on-his-desire-to-reside-with-her/

That ^^^^is surely not the person who can dictate what is in Jace's best interest whatsoever.

Edited October 18, 2017 by SPLAIN

[crazychicken]

If Janelle had bothered to listen she would have heard Barb explain that while the pead prescribes the medication it is at the recommendation of a psychologist. Once Jace started with the angry outburst a therapist was added to his treatment plan that has not helped so now the next step is being taken and he is being referred to a psychiatrist. To me that seems to be a normal treatment plan,  psychiatrist are not the first step unless it is obviously a complex mental health issue. I do not know stats but I would guess that in most cases children with ADHD do not reach the level of care of a psychiatrist.

[Spiderella2]

13 hours ago, citychic said:

Do you really think that kail cares who she inconveniences if she were to give birth over there? She expects everyone to drop their lives and accommodate her anyway, except I believe Joe and Javi have had enough and are fighting back in their own ways.

And I never really understood the meaning of "extra" but Kail is living the dream. I fully believe she tried to give birth while she was there just so she could have extra attention on her. If the expressions on her face weren't telling enough when the nurses told her nothing was wrong, then her talking about where she wanted to give birth over and over was the final clue for me that she would do anything to cover up her shame at being shunned by Chris. I don't know where she was the week before on vacation but I believe she also hoped to give birth early there too just for the attention factor.

One last thing. I fully believe that she didn't drop that PFA on Javi and he knew it.  She pussyfooted around that conversation saying she would get "proof" from the courts and show it to him. Well, when the courts sent "proof" to Javi it was dropped they would have also sent a copy to Kail.  She went down and filed to drop the PFA that day only after Javi called her bluff and told her he would drop the court date after seeing the paperwork he knew all along she didn't even have because she never dropped it.  Javi may be a famewhore but he has Kail's number and I'm loving some of her expressions when he drops some one liners.

I concur. When Kail has the nurses come up to the beach, their expressions cracked me up. The black lady huffed when Kail said she was taking progesterone shots up until a week before. “And you still came here on vacation?” Was her look. Then when Kail lies and said she was high risk due to previous miscarriages, the lady was like, “you’re past the miscarriage stage.”....???? that made me laugh. Kail wisely kept her mouth shut after that, because she knew that all her lies would unravel by this health care professional who didn’t buy into her bs and fake celebrity status. That lady kept saying, “well then, as I said before, you should go to the hospital, if you think it’s that serious.” That lady was no-nonsense and didn’t care that Kail was a lower rung celebrity in America. 

 It humored me greatly that this non-event of the fat sausage fingers, she tried to make into a big deal, and it ruined her vacation. She thought that they would say she was in pre-eclampsia, or it would induce early labor, and she was gleeful for it. She was even planning what country to get evacuated to to have her baby in. Until she saw how the hospital was....she wanted out of there fast. Oh yes Karl, island hospitals are not the luxury stays you imagined. ??? what a moron! 

I do agree that her wanting to have the baby on vacation, or even her imagined medical issue, was all a ploy for attention from Chris. This vacation was supposed to be her baby-moon, but Chris didn’t show up. So she faked an illness to try to get him to come/call, and when that didn’t work, she decided to have the baby there to rob him of that moment, and also for damage control in case he wasn’t at the birth. I love that Chris at this point was not playing her games, and all her machinations were not working on him. 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, HoosierJen said:

Yeah, Briana, that's a really rough life you've got there. As opposed to when I found out that my baby had holes in her heart and I had to -- you know -- go to work the next day. There are lots of parents who have children with health issues, and we don't all get to sit at home all day and collect a paycheck from Mtv. Some of us have to continue to go to work and stress over how to pay the regular bills along with the pediatric cardiologist bills, all while worrying over our child's health.

But with that stupid sister complaining how they never get a break -- shut your stupid mouth. You all are getting paid to sit around and bitch.....and here I am doing it for free!

I’m so sorry to hear about your child, I hope she/he is doing much better now. I’m curious, did the hospital give you the same advice when you took the baby home...the watch and wait advice? Or was there anything else that could have been done? 

[Spiderella2]

Jenelle is the worst!

As much as I like that we can now hear what Jace really thinks, it scares me whenever he does the j/k thing because I feel like he may get hurt more because of it. He really does not like David, and Jenelle truly does not care. She doesn’t care one iota for any of her kids...even Ensley (if she did, she would get a helmet on that football shaped head of hers). I do agree that her kids are mere possessions of hers, and she only gives them attention when it serves her purposes to do so. She made a whole huge stink about not having him on his bday. On his party, she obviously just got the gift right before she arrived at the water park. Jenelle couldn’t even bother to get wrapping paper or a gift bag!. Wow, another water gun, yay? I love how unfazed Jace was by the gift, just an offhand, “oh thanks”. He truly is going to be Jenelle’s karmic nemesis when he gets older.  He is already getting smarter, he knows what to say to keep her even keeled, keeps his facials expressions blank, and only tries to tell her the truth of his feelings when they are alone. The older he gets, the smarter he will become. He will be perfect foil to her narcissism. 

[HoosierJen]

1 hour ago, Spiderella2 said:

I concur. When Kail has the nurses come up to the beach, their expressions cracked me up. The black lady huffed when Kail said she was taking progesterone shots up until a week before. “And you still came here on vacation?” Was her look. Then when Kail lies and said she was high risk due to previous miscarriages, the lady was like, “you’re past the miscarriage stage.”....???? that made me laugh. Kail wisely kept her mouth shut after that, because she knew that all her lies would unravel by this health care professional who didn’t buy into her bs and fake celebrity status. That lady kept saying, “well then, as I said before, you should go to the hospital, if you think it’s that serious.” That lady was no-nonsense and didn’t care that Kail was a lower rung celebrity in America. 

 It humored me greatly that this non-event of the fat sausage fingers, she tried to make into a big deal, and it ruined her vacation. She thought that they would say she was in pre-eclampsia, or it would induce early labor, and she was gleeful for it. She was even planning what country to get evacuated to to have her baby in. Until she saw how the hospital was....she wanted out of there fast. Oh yes Karl, island hospitals are not the luxury stays you imagined. ??? what a moron! 

I do agree that her wanting to have the baby on vacation, or even her imagined medical issue, was all a ploy for attention from Chris. This vacation was supposed to be her baby-moon, but Chris didn’t show up. So she faked an illness to try to get him to come/call, and when that didn’t work, she decided to have the baby there to rob him of that moment, and also for damage control in case he wasn’t at the birth. I love that Chris at this point was not playing her games, and all her machinations were not working on him. 

 

 

 

I’m so sorry to hear about your child, I hope she/he is doing much better now. I’m curious, did the hospital give you the same advice when you took the baby home...the watch and wait advice? Or was there anything else that could have been done? 

Spiderella2, thank you for your concern. Yes, she's fine . . . she's actually 21 now and perfectly healthy (except for those holes in her heart). Nobody knows she has a heart problem unless we tell them, and everyone is always surprised to find out -- she looks like the picture of health. 

As far as the advice that Briana was given, it sounded right. We were told to always watch my daughter to see if she seemed out of breath or abnormally tired. She goes to the pediatric cardiologist once a year to get the holes measured -- as long as they are within a certain size limit, no surgical intervention is needed. This summer was actually a big moment for us because it was her last visit to the 'pediatric' cardiologist -- her next visit will be to a regular cardiologist. The only physical restriction she's ever had is that she can't scuba dive. One thing that I remember the cardiologist telling me when my daughter was a baby was that I was to treat her exactly like I treated her older brother . . . if he played soccer, let her play soccer; if he climbed a tree, let her climb as well; if I was a spanking parent, spank both of them for the same infraction. He said the problem comes when parents treat their kids differently and try to protect the one with the heart defect. He said it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy -- you keep them out of sports and try to cushion them from everything, hence their body doesn't build up its strength. I hope that Briana gets this same advice and treats both of her girls the same.

Briana is the type of parent that I usually love to meet in the cardiologist's waiting room -- new baby, just got the diagnosis, scared to death. I remember how that felt, and I think it makes them feel so much better to see my daughter -- college senior, beautiful, strong, played volleyball and ran cross country all through high school -- becuase they realize that a heart defect will not prevent their child from doing anything in life. 

[Sprockets]

3 hours ago, crazychicken said:

 

If Janelle had bothered to listen she would have heard Barb explain that while the pead prescribes the medication it is at the recommendation of a psychologist. Once Jace started with the angry outburst a therapist was added to his treatment plan that has not helped so now the next step is being taken and he is being referred to a psychiatrist. To me that seems to be a normal treatment plan,  psychiatrist are not the first step unless it is obviously a complex mental health issue. I do not know stats but I would guess that in most cases children with ADHD do not reach the level of care of a psychiatrist.

 

A psychologist would recommend a medication evaluation by a psychiatrist, but no psychologist would ever recommend medication.  The only medical specialist who should be doing a medication evaluation is a psychiatrist, but all too often other MDs prescribe.  They are legally allowed to do this, but they do not have the specialized training required to ensure the right decision is made.  In the case of a child, especially, I would be much more comfortable with an in-depth medication evaluation by a psychiatrist.  I know this is not always possible due to insurance restrictions, cost, etc., but the decision to put a child on psychotropic medication carries huge implications and possible repercussions, and should be a last resort, IMO.  

Not that Jenelle gives a shit, of course.  

1 hour ago, HoosierJen said:

they realize that a heart defect will not prevent their child from doing anything in life. 

An inspiring post.  But Briana's daughters - and her future children - will grow up in a household full of ignorant, screaming women where men are viewed as the lowest form of life and every normal challenge is a nuclear catastrophe.  They already don't have a chance at normal.  

Edited October 18, 2017 by Sprockets
typo

[AmandaUnbidden]

In regards to the whole pediatrician vs psychiatrist thing, I just wanted to share my experience.

Psychiatrists are not the only MDs with the extensive knowledge to prescribe meds for mental health. My child goes to a pediatrician whose specialty is in treating depression, anxiety, and ADHD in children and adolescents. She is a specialist, and my child was referred to her. She and her staff are amazing. My child actually went to a psychiatrist first because we had to wait to get into see her.

Also, wanted to comment on Jenelle being worried about Jace abusing his meds. Studies have shown that the most likely person to abuse drugs is someone with untreated ADHD. So Jace getting treated early on and with the correct meds will most likely keep him from abusing drugs in the future. 

So basically, Jenelle needs to STFU. She just wanted to sound smart and put down Barb at the same time. 

[citychic]

3 hours ago, Spiderella2 said:

I concur. When Kail has the nurses come up to the beach, their expressions cracked me up. The black lady huffed when Kail said she was taking progesterone shots up until a week before. “And you still came here on vacation?” Was her look. Then when Kail lies and said she was high risk due to previous miscarriages, the lady was like, “you’re past the miscarriage stage.”....???? that made me laugh. Kail wisely kept her mouth shut after that, because she knew that all her lies would unravel by this health care professional who didn’t buy into her bs and fake celebrity status. That lady kept saying, “well then, as I said before, you should go to the hospital, if you think it’s that serious.” That lady was no-nonsense and didn’t care that Kail was a lower rung celebrity in America. 

 It humored me greatly that this non-event of the fat sausage fingers, she tried to make into a big deal, and it ruined her vacation. She thought that they would say she was in pre-eclampsia, or it would induce early labor, and she was gleeful for it. She was even planning what country to get evacuated to to have her baby in. Until she saw how the hospital was....she wanted out of there fast. Oh yes Karl, island hospitals are not the luxury stays you imagined. ??? what a moron! 

I do agree that her wanting to have the baby on vacation, or even her imagined medical issue, was all a ploy for attention from Chris. This vacation was supposed to be her baby-moon, but Chris didn’t show up. So she faked an illness to try to get him to come/call, and when that didn’t work, she decided to have the baby there to rob him of that moment, and also for damage control in case he wasn’t at the birth. I love that Chris at this point was not playing her games, and all her machinations were not working on him. 

 

 

 

I’m so sorry to hear about your child, I hope she/he is doing much better now. I’m curious, did the hospital give you the same advice when you took the baby home...the watch and wait advice? Or was there anything else that could have been done? 

Yep. You could see Kail's face fall when she realized that the nurses had no idea who she was and they didn't treat her special because of the cameras. That's what Kail was waiting for, the Jlo treatment, and you're right, as soon as she saw that crappy hospital room she was like "game over" I'm outta here.

[Mr. Miner]

Jenelle gave her little speech to Jace about how walking her down the aisle is like Jace giving UBT permission to marry his wretched mother. Two minutes later, "I wish you weren't marrying David" made me so happy. Karma's a c*** and so are you Jenelle...and you too Karl, I didn't forget you.

[woodscommaelle]

Two words: Mental Medication. ?

[MelineB13]

6 hours ago, crazychicken said:

If Janelle had bothered to listen she would have heard Barb explain that while the pead prescribes the medication it is at the recommendation of a psychologist. Once Jace started with the angry outburst a therapist was added to his treatment plan that has not helped so now the next step is being taken and he is being referred to a psychiatrist. To me that seems to be a normal treatment plan,  psychiatrist are not the first step unless it is obviously a complex mental health issue. I do not know stats but I would guess that in most cases children with ADHD do not reach the level of care of a psychiatrist.

Ah see, I should have listened better too. I missed that! Thank you! 

[heatherchandler]

7 hours ago, crazychicken said:

If Janelle had bothered to listen she would have heard Barb explain that while the pead prescribes the medication it is at the recommendation of a psychologist. Once Jace started with the angry outburst a therapist was added to his treatment plan that has not helped so now the next step is being taken and he is being referred to a psychiatrist. To me that seems to be a normal treatment plan,  psychiatrist are not the first step unless it is obviously a complex mental health issue. I do not know stats but I would guess that in most cases children with ADHD do not reach the level of care of a psychiatrist.

Yes - this 100%.  My son went through a huge evaluation, and it was a psychologist who diagnosed him.  Of course he doesn't need a psychiatrist, that's for people who have ongoing mental illness.  Also, he has nothing to sit and discuss, he is 8!  So, his pediatrician can prescribe his meds, and they work as they should.

Jace obviously needs the psychiatrist to deal with his outbursts - Barb is doing everything right, or, as most people do.

[TimeToCancelTM]

9 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

Under certain circumstances, and if we were talking about a different parent, I would normally agree. But this is Jenelle. If you watch the show, you know Jenelle does not have an ounce of care for her children. None. They are possessions to her. She has also spent the last 7 years of her life in toxic relationships, drug addiction, committing crimes such as domestic violence, getting pregnant, getting engaged, going on countless vacations, going out of town for events, and moving farther and farther away from Jace. She has also given numerous excuses as to why she couldn't pick Jace up, why she couldn't have him at her home for visitation, she was too tired or whatever nonsense excuse she'd throw at Barb.  She ignored Jace for the most part.  Never did Jenelle seek time with Jace without someone pushing her to do it. Jenelle's only frustrations are the ones she makes up in her head.

Barb mentioned  to Jenelle on several occasions how Jace had become aggressive. Jenelle gave reasons such as he needed more discipline, he needs to listen more, she even said he needed to go to military school. He was only four years old. Not once did I hear her say, "How about we take him to the doctor and get him referred to a specialist if needed?" She even said if he lived with her he would behave better. No concerns whatsoever about her child possibly having mental issues or a neurological disorder.

I would like to point out that lovely scene when Barb visited Jenelle at her home almost two years ago. A discussion took place where Barb brought to Jenelle's attention about going out of town to help her other daughter. Jenelle threw a huge tantrum. She used profanity when screaming at Barb about all the health problems she has been going through and how she had to travel to New York. This was when Jenelle was faking her countless symptoms and illnesses. She told Barb how she is never there for her and doesn't care about her being ill. After Barb left, Kaiser went up to Jenelle to offer her comfort, but she shunned him. She does that a lot to her children. Jenelle cries and demands attention from her own mother when she is supposedly ill, but she can't bother to do the same for her own flesh and blood who was diagnosed over three years ago? God knows how many times Jace was ill in those 7 years, but Jenelle was not there for him the way she demanded her mother be there for her. 

My observation about Jenelle, and her scenes seem to confirm my opinion, that she has never cared about or been there for Jace during his own health problems.  This skank couldn't even bother to give Jace his earache medication when he was staying at her house.  We wouldn't have known this if Barb had not mentioned it. Who is Jenelle to point a finger at Jace's parent and grandmother who has been tending to his needs and health for the past 7 years? It took Jenelle 7 years to finally go to court to try and acquire custody, and she only did it because her boyfriend pushed her to file. These two morons have no care about any of the children in their care. Jenelle can spare me with her uneducated comments about what she thinks she knows about mental health care. She doesn't even take care of her own mental health. Her way of handling it is smoking weed, even while pregnant. She didn't care about the well-being or health of her daughter who happened to be born with THC in her system.

Jenelle's response on the reunion when Jace's ADHD was brought up:

Jenelle's only concern was Jace's friends trying to get high with his medication. She didn't care back then that he was prescribed the medicine by a pediatrician. She was too busy fighting with Nathan and being David's sex toy to care about Jace at all.

Jenelle mentioned a few episodes back how Jace is acting out because he wants to live with her. Yes, Jenelle. By simply moving in with you permanently, all his mental problems will go away: https://www.inquisitr.com/4428201/jenelle-evans-blames-jaces-outbursts-on-his-desire-to-reside-with-her/

That ^^^^is surely not the person who can dictate what is in Jace's best interest whatsoever.

A-fucking-Men to your entire post!!! Preach girl!!! 

[GreatKazu]

8 hours ago, crazychicken said:

If Janelle had bothered to listen she would have heard Barb explain that while the pead prescribes the medication it is at the recommendation of a psychologist. Once Jace started with the angry outburst a therapist was added to his treatment plan that has not helped so now the next step is being taken and he is being referred to a psychiatrist. To me that seems to be a normal treatment plan,  psychiatrist are not the first step unless it is obviously a complex mental health issue. I do not know stats but I would guess that in most cases children with ADHD do not reach the level of care of a psychiatrist.

You nailed it. Jenelle doesn't listen to Barb. Period. It is also Jenelle and UBT out to discredit Barb on camera, as usual. 

This is not a debate about who is authorized to issue meds. It is about Jenelle choosing not to listen to Barb and it is about trying to make Barb look as if she is causing some sort of harm upon Jace with her ignorant actions. This has UBT written all over it. Jenelle can't wipe her ass without UBT telling her how she is wiping herself wrong. He is in control. He said it not too long ago that he HATES Barb. He is no longer at the drop-offs and pick-ups. He is obviously pissed that he was ordered to stay away by the agreement. He is on a mission to destroy Barb by any means. Jenelle is aiding and abetting him. They are still pissed that Barb is still in control of Jace for the most part and they just can't have that. They are going to try and steamroll Barb by any means. They are really grasping at straws. Don't be surprised if they try to plant drugs in her car. 

Jenelle never listens to what Barb has to say. If she did, she would not be where she is at in life. 

Edited October 18, 2017 by GreatKazu