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4 minutes ago, 2727 said:

“I love the fact your always working if we ever had sex I feel like after an orgazzum you say speaking of feeling good did see the story on the puppy rescue we should do a segment on it hand me my phone.”

...the hell kind of English is this? 

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7 hours ago, Annber03 said:

...the hell kind of English is this? 

Good question!  Did he think being incoherent somehow would charm her into wanting to do whatnot? In addition to being grossly crude, unprofessional and boorish, he seems to be a complete dork! 

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8 hours ago, 2727 said:

Any headline that starts with "Fox News" never ends well.

Fox News contributor Tyrus sent lewd texts to his female co-host. After an internal investigation, Fox pulled him off the show he co-hosted on Fox Nation and gave him his own show.

Similar to other situations instead of firing the offender they move them to another area of the same company/church/etc. and let them keep doing their jobs. 

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1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Similar to other situations instead of firing the offender they move them to another area of the same company/church/etc. and let them keep doing their jobs. 

Yep, that's exactly what happens all the time. Including way down in the totem pole at the store I worked at. They moved the offender from store to store, every time he did it again, off to another store, he came to our store did it again and they shipped him off to another store in another city that actually fired his ass and was ticked off when they realized higher ups had known even thought they recommended him for the job. Oddly enough they did the same thing for employees caught stealing send him off to another store and eventually one of them would fire the person. Why they waste so much time and energy protecting people like that I really don't know. 

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13 hours ago, Annber03 said:

...the hell kind of English is this? 

It sounds like something a 14-year-old would have come up with.

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4 hours ago, Jaded said:

Similar to other situations instead of firing the offender they move them to another area of the same company/church/etc. and let them keep doing their jobs. 

There was a time if a female employee complained a male co-worker was harassing her, they simply would fire the woman.  Those with backwards mindsets probably believe moving the offender to another department is progress.  

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35 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

There was a time if a female employee complained a male co-worker was harassing her, they simply would fire the woman.  Those with backwards mindsets probably believe moving the offender to another department is progress.  

Nah. Not firing the victim keeps down lawsuits and moving the offender “stops” the “conflict” between the employees who are having an issue. The company gets to have their cake and eat it too.  This seems to be very common not only in entertainment, but shockingly (to some) the military, which is probably one of the most misogynistic organizations any woman can work for, but I digress. 

Those texts were disgusting and he should’ve been fired on the spot. 

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6 hours ago, Jaded said:

Similar to other situations instead of firing the offender they move them to another area of the same company/church/etc. and let them keep doing their jobs. 

It seems like he actually got a promotion and is hosting his own show with more publicity for it than his victim former co-host and her show.

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1 hour ago, Enero said:

Not firing the victim keeps down lawsuits and moving the offender “stops” the “conflict” between the employees who are having an issue.

Which is why I said "there was a time".  Because in the past, the woman would have been the one fired.   Women rarely spoke about such things, much less filed lawsuits back then.  

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58 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

Which is why I said "there was a time".  Because in the past, the woman would have been the one fired.   Women rarely spoke about such things, much less filed lawsuits back then.  

Oh I agree. To clarify the “nah” was in reference to them thinking they’re doing better in their responses to the victims of harassment when I don’t think they’re even thinking this way at all. They’ve just learned to adapt and protect themselves better, against the changing times that allows for lawsuits and such when harassers aren’t “reprimanded.”

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20 hours ago, 2727 said:

Any headline that starts with "Fox News" never ends well.

Fox News contributor Tyrus sent lewd texts to his female co-host. After an internal investigation, Fox pulled him off the show he co-hosted on Fox Nation and gave him his own show.

Texts included:

  • “Just pull your boobs out now why don’t you. Just grin and bare it"
  • "keep being negative and I’ll send you another dick pic."
  • “I love the fact your always working if we ever had sex I feel like after an orgazzum you say speaking of feeling good did see the story on the puppy rescue we should do a segment on it hand me my phone.”

So they... rewarded him? The fuck? I didn't think even Fox would be that openly obvious about their contempt for women.

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3 hours ago, Enero said:

Oh I agree. To clarify the “nah” was in reference to them thinking they’re doing better in their responses to the victims of harassment when I don’t think they’re even thinking this way at all. They’ve just learned to adapt and protect themselves better, against the changing times that allows for lawsuits and such when harassers aren’t “reprimanded.”

Got it!  

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3 minutes ago, MikaelaArsenault said:

Even my parents weren’t surprised when I told them.

It was over the minute the whole deleting text messages story came out.  

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8 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

It was over the minute the whole deleting text messages story came out.  

Why would the text messages be deleted though?

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2 minutes ago, MikaelaArsenault said:

Why would the text messages be deleted though? 

Go back to Page 127 of this forum.  A discussion of what occurred starts there.  

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15 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

Go back to Page 127 of this forum.  A discussion of what occurred starts there.  

Thank you. Sorry I didn’t read up on it myself earlier.

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The kid's mother must feel like an idiot, the case getting dismissed is all her fault.

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On 7/13/2019 at 4:02 PM, Danny Franks said:

So they... rewarded him? The fuck? I didn't think even Fox would be that openly obvious about their contempt for women.

I am thoroughly disgusted, but totally not surprised. 😠

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7 hours ago, GaT said:

The kid's mother must feel like an idiot, the case getting dismissed is all her fault.

While she was busy trying to make him look like an innocent victim, she made him look guilty of something. 

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1 minute ago, catlover79 said:

I am thoroughly disgusted, but totally not surprised. 😠

The thing is, I just realised who this Tyrus is - the ex-WWE wrestler who's the size of a house. He had a small role in season 1 of GLOW, which included a training montage scene with Alison Brie and Betty Gilpin's characters.

On the Marc Maron podcast, Maron asked the two women about filming that scene, and they both made it clear they were not impressed with the way someone behaved while shooting it. They wouldn't go into detail, and it sounded like they were more annoyed by comments that were made than any actual physical overstepping. My money is on Tyrus being the one who pissed them off.

He did not return for the second season, but Carlos Colon Jr, the other wrestler in that montage scene, did.

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Paz De La Huerta met with the DA over Weinstein again.  His attorney says there's nothing new, but in fact there is. A month ago the NY legislature extended the statute of limitations on rape.

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The statute of limitations for rape in the second degree and criminal sexual act in the second degree would be extended to 20 years by the bill. The statute of limitations for rape in the third degree and criminal sexual act in the third degree would be extended to 10 years.

Victims would also be able to bring civil litigation against their alleged assailants for up to 20 years after those offenses, according to the bill.

She has said Weinstein attacked her in 2010. As word gets around there will hopefully be more people who come forward and press cases against prominent abusers. Or address them again, if they had to be dismissed because of the elapsed time.

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On 7/18/2019 at 7:28 AM, Danny Franks said:

The thing is, I just realised who this Tyrus is - the ex-WWE wrestler who's the size of a house. He had a small role in season 1 of GLOW, which included a training montage scene with Alison Brie and Betty Gilpin's characters.

On the Marc Maron podcast, Maron asked the two women about filming that scene, and they both made it clear they were not impressed with the way someone behaved while shooting it. They wouldn't go into detail, and it sounded like they were more annoyed by comments that were made than any actual physical overstepping. My money is on Tyrus being the one who pissed them off.

He did not return for the second season, but Carlos Colon Jr, the other wrestler in that montage scene, did.

I can’t remember if it was the podcast or another interview, but I think the “Watch it, handsy!” line was a Betty ad-lib because she was getting pissed off. It’s been a year since I listened to the podcast or any other interview that covered season one. 

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On 7/22/2019 at 10:39 PM, Stuffy said:

I can’t remember if it was the podcast or another interview, but I think the “Watch it, handsy!” line was a Betty ad-lib because she was getting pissed off. It’s been a year since I listened to the podcast or any other interview that covered season one. 

Reporting that incident reminds me of something that happened to Corey Haim on his very first movie, Firstborn. He was just congratulating Peter Weller and he went  full assault on Haim. He was only a pre-teen, Peter. It was reported from an article from 2000 and I was shocked.

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Not Buckaroo Banzai! Damn, that is disappointing to hear. I'm ambivalent about Jake Gyllenhaal because of his Method actor on-set aggression, but at least that was directed against adults who were capable of fighting back. There's no excuse for behaving that way toward a child.

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12 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

The guy who took the last batch of Jon Benet Ramsay photos has been arrested for possession of child porn.  Questions are being raised about his connection to her going missing.

https://www.insideedition.com/could-pageant-photographer-who-snapped-pics-jonbenet-ramsey-be-involved-her-murder-54710

4 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Nobody checked out this guy at the time of the murder?   How many kids did he exploit over the years?   That case was botched from the get-go. 

The article says he was considered a person of interest from the start. It'd be reassuring if they can finally find out what actually went on, but honestly I'd be more surprised by a non-parent involved in that creepy toddler pageant scene NOT being into child porn. The police probably had a whole gaggle of photographers and pageant officials who'd been in contact with Jon Benet to investigate.

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4 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Nobody checked out this guy at the time of the murder?   How many kids did he exploit over the years?   That case was botched from the get-go.

Damn.    I hope he lives.   I want him to go to trial and have every SINGLE thing he did to those girls detailed in a public record that is preserved FOREVER.    I don't want him to die without facing all of that.    If the inmates did it, I hope they lay off him until AFTER the trial.   If he tried to kill himself because he finally realized his money won't protect him anymore, well, we always knew he was a coward.   He just doesn't want to face the consequences of his actions.

If there was ever a reason to get this court case started faster...do we know when his court case is even scheduled? This could literally topple all sorts of people if the rumors are true. This train needs to get moving asap.

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I moved to Colorado the week after the Jon Benet murder, and heard a lot more in the local press than the national news picked up on.    The pageant people claimed that only family members of the girls were allowed in the audience, and that was a lie.   

I worked with a couple of people who stayed at the big hotels with the glitz pageants, and they had big sign boards up advertising admission.     One of the men asked if you had to be part of the pageant group, and he was told no, anyone could pay and attend.  This happened right after the murder, when the pageant organizers and groups were desperately trying to get rid of any thought of little girls being at risk from being in pageants.  

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5 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Damn.    I hope he lives.   I want him to go to trial and have every SINGLE thing he did to those girls detailed in a public record that is preserved FOREVER.    I don't want him to die without facing all of that.    If the inmates did it, I hope they lay off him until AFTER the trial.   If he tried to kill himself because he finally realized his money won't protect him anymore, well, we always knew he was a coward.   He just doesn't want to face the consequences of his actions.

He's perfectly fine.  His injuries were minor and he was fine and well the same day.  I think he faked a suicide attempt to try to get out of jail and into his cushy "home detention" that his lawyers are pushing for.

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1 hour ago, izabella said:

He's perfectly fine.  His injuries were minor and he was fine and well the same day.  I think he faked a suicide attempt to try to get out of jail and into his cushy "home detention" that his lawyers are pushing for.

That makes a TON of sense.   The guy does not want to be locked up.   He wants to be out so he can be like Roman Polanski.    And he has enough rich friends willing to protect him - and themselves - abroad.   

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15 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

That makes a TON of sense.   The guy does not want to be locked up.   He wants to be out so he can be like Roman Polanski.    And he has enough rich friends willing to protect him - and themselves - abroad.   

And, if he gets out, all the more chance he can use his zillions of dollars to find a way to get out of the US and into hiding.  This guy thinks justice is for other people.

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On 7/22/2019 at 10:39 PM, Stuffy said:

I’ve watched GLOW a billion times because it’s great and everyone should, but one thing that’s always stuck out to me is that “watch it, handsy” sounds like it was looped in after the fact. And it’s dropped over a shot where you can’t see her talking (like a lot of audio that is added after the fact). But it could still exist in the show for the same reason as mentioned.

GLOW also does a “creepy Hollywood exec perverts” storyline in season 2. 

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16 hours ago, kieyra said:

I’ve watched GLOW a billion times because it’s great and everyone should, but one thing that’s always stuck out to me is that “watch it, handsy” sounds like it was looped in after the fact. And it’s dropped over a shot where you can’t see her talking (like a lot of audio that is added after the fact). But it could still exist in the show for the same reason as mentioned.

GLOW also does a “creepy Hollywood exec perverts” storyline in season 2. 

Maybe the words she actually used were harsher, and didn't fit the irreverent nature of the scene.

I think GLOW has handled the objectification of women tropes pretty well, to be honest. It hasn't sugarcoated anything, regarding how the women are viewed by other characters, but it's avoided any of the sleazy, lingering camera shots that are common in real life pro wrestling.

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3 hours ago, Bruinsfan said:

Criminal Minds is still on?

Yep. Next season will be its last, though. 

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