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3 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I can't see Allison Sweeney wanting to come back full time.  She has a sweet gig as it is.  It seems as if she can pretty much come and go as she pleases which allows her to do Hallmark movies and other things. 

It's probably cost effective for the show as well as short stints here and there cost less than having her around full time.  And all of her love interests are gone or will be gone so would that mean we'd have to have EJ back?

Well there's Lucas and Bryan is always willing to return they do have a fanbase if EJ isn't returning they can always end it with Lumi(I rather they not as I want Lucas to be with someone that would love him back which isn't Sami)

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2 hours ago, Retired at last said:

But NOT Bonnie, please!

Times 1000.  No Lockharts, unless they come in a jar.

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4 hours ago, boes said:

Times 1000.  No Lockharts, unless they come in a jar.

Or an urn. Or casket.

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More spoilers for next week, courtesy of TV Guide:

Monday, July 13th
Ben grows more suspicious of Claire. 

Tuesday, July 14th
Gwen tries to seduce Jake. 

Wednesday, July 15th
Nicole and Eric's wedding comes to a halt when Sami interrupts.  

Thursday, July 16th
Allie drops a bomb on Sami.

Friday, July 17th
Will takes Ben out for drinks the night before his wedding; Ciara asks Rafe an important question.

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25 minutes ago, QueenSerena said:

Will takes Ben out for drinks the night before his wedding

If only they did the horizontal tango ...

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So when Sami comes to town she doesn't know about Allie yet? Or does she attack Nicole after Allie tells her?

Ciara is asking Rafe to give her away and I think its rather fitting he would be a part of such an awful event.

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4 hours ago, QueenSerena said:

Will takes Ben out for drinks

...I can still remember how buddy buddy they were when he was a bartender, and he asked Will to be his best man at his wedding to Abigail.

Right before he murdered Will.

 

Rot in hell Ben. Take your stupid abs with you.

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7 hours ago, QueenSerena said:

Friday, July 17th
Will takes Ben out for drinks the night before his wedding

Disgusting.  Just disgusting.

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12 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

If only they did the horizontal tango ...

Didn't they already do that?  At least Ben's version of it?

Back to the spoiler....I wonder if something is going to be slipped into Ben's drink (and I don't mean a necktie) as was done to Abigail?

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I wonder why Ciara would ask Rafe to walk her down the aisle when her brother is still in town? Sami is going to love that!

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25 minutes ago, Retired at last said:

I wonder why Ciara would ask Rafe to walk her down the aisle when her brother is still in town? 

Not gonna lie, for a second I was like, "Who's her brother?" lol.

Are we sure Shawn is still in town? I just assumed him and Belle left already.

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2 hours ago, Retired at last said:

I wonder why Ciara would ask Rafe to walk her down the aisle when her brother is still in town? Sami is going to love that!

Forgot Shawn. Why couldn't Hope walk her down the aisle.

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I just realized that Gabi is showing up to attend the wedding of the man who not only murdered her baby daddy but her half-sister as well. Of course, if Eve or Eduardo or both show up to take Ben out, that's an opportunity to reference that bit of history.

I swear, if they have her walk in and do nothing but talk about Stefan as if they've just swung by some fourth of July barbecue by coincidence, I'm going to burst a blood vessel.

Honestly I may just have to skip the whole wedding. I don't think I want to subject myself to that level of stupidity and irritation. Maybe I'll just skip through it based on your recommendations guys. Tell me at what point Eve pulls a gun and starts firing and then I'm in....weird hearing myself say that, as someone who is so against gun violence.

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I can’t believe Sami is coming back to town and she is not going to do anything to Ben. Like, Ron is having her get into it with Nicole, but she is going to leave her son’s murderer alone?

I would think it more in character if Sami teamed up with Lucas and Kate to come up with a scheme to kill/hurt/destroy Ben.

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8 hours ago, Retired at last said:

I wonder why Ciara would ask Rafe to walk her down the aisle when her brother is still in town? Sami is going to love that!

I like to think she knows Shawn would never agree to such a thing. 

 

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I feel like the least we should get is a scene where both her parents lock her in a closet until she agrees Ben is the worst person she could ever marry...

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6 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Honestly I may just have to skip the whole wedding. I don't think I want to subject myself to that level of stupidity and irritation. Maybe I'll just skip through it based on your recommendations guys. Tell me at what point Eve pulls a gun and starts firing and then I'm in....weird hearing myself say that, as someone who is so against gun violence.

As much as CIN getting this big wedding annoys me I'm so watching to watch the pandemonium unfold. Oh and get this. Want to talk about irritation? I try to keep my mouth shut and NOT try to talk logic with obsessed fans no matter how bizarre they sound but I got into it with a CIN fan the other day on instagram because when speculating about what Eve does (allegedly shoots Ciara and kidnaps Ben tormenting him and lets him think she is dead). Said fan said "Eve needs to get over her Ben hate, this is excessive".

What?

I know there is a lot of stupid, unrealistic shit on this show but Eve never letting go of her venom towards the man who murdered her daughter is realistic as hell. If my child was strangled to death I would have to be held back from not wanting to kill him.

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1 hour ago, howmanywords said:

As much as CIN getting this big wedding annoys me I'm so watching to watch the pandemonium unfold. Oh and get this. Want to talk about irritation? I try to keep my mouth shut and NOT try to talk logic with obsessed fans no matter how bizarre they sound but I got into it with a CIN fan the other day on instagram because when speculating about what Eve does (allegedly shoots Ciara and kidnaps Ben tormenting him and lets him think she is dead). Said fan said "Eve needs to get over her Ben hate, this is excessive".

What?

I know there is a lot of stupid, unrealistic shit on this show but Eve never letting go of her venom towards the man who murdered her daughter is realistic as hell. If my child was strangled to death I would have to be held back from not wanting to kill him.

I'm no eve fan but she has ever reason to hate Ben and I don't like how there making her a villain because of it.

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5 hours ago, bubble sparkly said:

I can’t believe Sami is coming back to town and she is not going to do anything to Ben. Like, Ron is having her get into it with Nicole, but she is going to leave her son’s murderer alone?

I would think it more in character if Sami teamed up with Lucas and Kate to come up with a scheme to kill/hurt/destroy Ben.

She worked WITH Ben to pretend to kill Will again to get his memory back.  She wouldn't go after him at this point.

 

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That was absolutely, 300% one of the most upsetting things this show ever did. If they just wanted to reshoot the strangling with Chandler in the place of Guy, that would be one thing, but to have Sami get her son back and then nitpick the fact that his memory isn't working quite right to the point where she asks his murderer to almost remurder him? That's some super sick shit. But Ron just thinks it's adorable and has the characters roll their eyes and say "oh Sami".

Is there some kind of rule that says that Ben can't be the one who is shot? I've no interest in seeing Ciara in danger for the millionth time, or to hear people telling someone who objects to Ben being free that they are "just as bad" or "worse" than he was. That's horseshit. When Eve racks up three bodies and frames someone else and tries to kidnap a baby and burn her ex in a fire, then we can talk.

2 hours ago, howmanywords said:

I try to keep my mouth shut and NOT try to talk logic with obsessed fans no matter how bizarre they sound but I got into it with a CIN fan the other day on instagram

I can't say I blame you. It's like the world can completely understand that Harley Quinn is sick woman who's in a totally messed-up relationship with the Joker, and they root for her to be free of him and to see it for the nightmarish mess that it is, but then they still can somehow turn around and go "it's just a soap, it doesn't matter if he's raped or killed people - he's so cute!" It makes me dizzy to contemplate the hypocrisy.

If Ciara was your sister or your daughter or your cousin or your best friend or your coworker, would you possibly be okay with her marrying a serial killer?

Come on.

Perhaps the only good thing that could come out of this is Kassie is going to knock her material out of the park. I mean, I fully expect Ron to make it as campy because....he's Ron, but I recently stumbled across that episode, that one single episode, where they allowed Eve to cross Ben's path, blow up at the sight of him and nearly murder him in the park. Kassie was amazing in that episode. Her rage was so raw and so overwhelming that she didn't give a shit what Ben was saying and someone actually had to come into the scene to prevent it from turning into a homicide. I think we were all applauding her performance that day, but of course the show made it a one-time only thing.

If we got a bit more of that, I'd be fine with it. Heck, I'm still fine with whatever it was that Claire did the last time. I didn't commit much of it to memory because I knew it was a stupid character assassination storyline, but blood is thicker than water sometimes, and I would expect anybody in this crazy town to go to lengths to try to keep Ciara away from Ben, especially family.

...I still can't believe how much potential Ciara had as a character and how it has all been washed away. So sad.

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Thinking there should be one more article, will post once it appears. Edit - nope, looks like I was wrong. I thought there would be an Ericole article, but I haven't seen one yet and info about their wedding seems to be in an interview with Ali. I'll just keep the cover here. Also, y'all, I have to admit, I love seeing Ivan back. He fits into this very specific time frame in which I watched Days when I was a kiddo, so I'm hoping his scenes will actually be fun to watch!

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I’m so glad Jake and Stefan are twins. I like Jake and didn’t want him bogged down with Stefan’s baggage of being a rapist.

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It's weird how Roman and John have become sort of simpatico considering their (shared) past. But I guess since John did once think he WAS Roman and loved many of the same people Roman did (siblings, Roman's kids, Doc, Shawn/Caroline), I guess it does make a sort of warped sense.

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I admit that pic of John/Roman with Holly is cute. I do like John with kids I wish they would let him be the cool grand dad of Salem where he doesn't need to go on adventures at his age but deal with adventures through his grandchildren which should keep him occupied tbh. I mean Tom/Alice were part of stories for years dealing with all their grandchildren's problems: Hope, Jennifer, Melissa, Julie etc.

They need to give Jarlena and Stayla more grounded storylines where they acknowledge the couple is a certain age but they can still be fun. They don't need to act like teenagers or have adventures when the budget and their age says otherwise.

1 minute ago, WendyCR72 said:

It's weird how Roman and John have become sort of simpatico considering their (shared) past. But I guess since John did once think he WAS Roman and loved many of the same people Roman did (siblings, Roman's kids, Doc, Shawn/Caroline), I guess it does make a sort of warped sense.

Even weirder considering JT used to be Chris K who was a friend of the Brady's now he is one. I think it helps in this case that Wayne isn't Roman anymore so this is a lot easier to accept.

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5 hours ago, howmanywords said:

I try to keep my mouth shut and NOT try to talk logic with obsessed fans no matter how bizarre they sound but I got into it with a CIN fan the other day on instagram because when speculating about what Eve does (allegedly shoots Ciara and kidnaps Ben tormenting him and lets him think she is dead). Said fan said "Eve needs to get over her Ben hate, this is excessive".

Funny because I try to do the same...in the opposite direction. I'm not obsessed as most fans are, but I do like "CIN" together. Like you said, there's a lot of stupid/unbelievable shit that happens on Days, so why argue over it.

BTW, I agree Eve doesn't have to get over her grief, but no grieving person in their right mind would go to the lengths that apparently Eve will. IMO, doing so only prolongs the grief and keeps it in the frontal lobe.

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Does grief shift lobes...?

 

So annoyed at the lack of Ericole wedding pageantry. No official press photo of them together? Didn't they use to do real photoshoots and show off the dress?

 

Love the quote about him suggesting Ivan team up with Kate: "She said she needs it." Ha! But yes, yes she does. Kate is adrift.

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1 minute ago, DisneyBoy said:

Does grief shift lobes...?

It's a matter of whether one chooses to dwell on it 24/7 or not....

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Ah okay. Gotcha.

 

So should do y'all think will die this summer?

Victor?

Hope?

Ciara?

Rafe?

Seems likely to be one of the four...

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14 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I like to think she knows Shawn would never agree to such a thing. 

Oh, but he would. Everyone loves Ben now!

12 hours ago, howmanywords said:

[Eve] allegedly shoots Ciara and kidnaps Ben tormenting him and lets him think she is dead.

Oh, that's gonna be fun for me lol! I mean, I know it's gonna be rage inducing because it'll be presented as Eve being a horrible, evil villain and we'll be expected to root for Ben to be free but I will enjoy the hell outta watching KDP kill those scenes and Ben get tortured lol.

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So, since I haven't seen the stories about Eve and her plans, do they at least get married first? It would be a shame if the show spent all their money on this wedding and it doesn't happen!

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Even if they do get married, they will only stay married for about two months before the actress who plays Ciara is gone. So what the hell is the point of spending all that money on a wedding that will be undone in two months? We haven't heard anything about them recasting Ciara so it seems like they'll be moving Ben into someone else's orbit. This will be especially infuriating considering the actress was already making it clear she didn't want to stay on the show permanently when they were figuring out her last contract negotiation. At least that's how I heard it.

But there is so little foresight going into this show already we shouldn't be surprised.

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Man it is tough watching the show for Xander these days. Wondering how he and Sarah end up at the wedding together in two weeks. I imagine his escort goes to the hospital for treatment and since Kayla is away Sarah has to work for once and finds out he spent the night talking about her and not doing the deed. That's what they did when Jack hired a whore to get over Jen so expecting a rerun 

 

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So they went the classic retcon twin route with Jake versus making him Stefan O.  I'm actually for it in this case, better to wipe out Stefan O.'s rapey grossness during the Gabigal stuff if he's staying, and they can always pair the twin with Gabi at some point if she comes back or whatever.

In other news, I saw a pic of Sami and Will and it made me wonder how she is going to feel about her beloved eldest child being besties with his murderer.

ETA...reading the whole article about the twin thing, I'm reminded a little of the Rex/Schuyler asspull of a retcon on OLTL.  It's not the exact same because this is twins and not a baby switch, but Alison Perkins did end up lying to Roxy because of how sickly her baby was and how it probably wasn't going to make it, and that sounds like what Ivan did.

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Marlena mouthing "furious" with that exploding hand gesture is very funny.

Sami's pink leopard print top reminds me of this hideous purple leopard print shirt Guy Wilson!Will wore one time.

So this decades-in-the-making wedding is...in the pub?

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Hope they are serving famous chowder at the reception.  
 

Holly is adorable.  Eric and Nicole are a beautiful couple.  

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1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

So this decades-in-the-making wedding is...in the pub?

Thank you. Exactly!

I realize some people find Ericole boring, but did the producers feel the same way? They couldn't even concoct a set of somewhere else, or do a location shoot for one afternoon?

From what little I can see of Nicole's dress in that trailer, it could not be more boring.

If they hired extras to appear in the pub, I call BS. You can't on the one hand claim that they're having an intimate family-only gathering, and then have complete total strangers sitting there. Belle and Shawn and Claire should absolutely be in attendance. Chloe and Parker too.

...I love that trailer though. We should have been seeing this kind of promotion for the wedding for the last few weeks.

 

I've been having to remind myself to be grateful that this wedding was filmed before the covid-19 lockdown started. Who knows what's going to happen with the show in the coming weeks. It would have been much worse if Eric and Nicole never actually got married at all, especially after all this build-up.

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2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Marlena mouthing "furious" with that exploding hand gesture is very funny.

Sami's pink leopard print top reminds me of this hideous purple leopard print shirt Guy Wilson!Will wore one time.

So this decades-in-the-making wedding is...in the pub?

No one has to travel for food and drink. And there may be a spare bed or two if someone gets drunk.

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4 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

No one has to travel for food and drink. And there may be a spare bed or two if someone gets drunk.

I honestly think that Eric and Nicole are going to have their honeymoon upstairs.

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3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

So this decades-in-the-making wedding is...in the pub

And the bride is in a dress that looks like it cost about $100. They really went all out.

Here is extended promo. OMG Sami's face seeing Ben and Will all chummy 😂

 

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I wish Sami would shoot Ben in the face because I already feel that Will is going to defend his bestie to his mother and criticize all her life choices to justify himself.

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Okay, Sami's face seeing Will clinking beer glasses with HIS MURDERER is great.  I'm sure she'll be talked around immediately, but at least she gets to have some kind of reaction.

Why would they end the promo on...that...with Steve and Kayla?  Is that some kind of inside joke I'm not getting?

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I'm really looking forward to Sami's return. Right off the bat she's fighting with Nicole, learns her daughter is pregnant, and sees Will with his murderer. I was never her biggest fan but she does bring energy to the show and other characters. I love her look of disgust/shock at Will & Ben being the best of friends. Why do I fear she is not going to be allowed to rip into the Sainted Ben?

I don't know what the hell is going on with shirtless Lucas and Bonnie, but her lustful smile is hilarious.

Didn't Steve & Kayla say that since they were already at the airport they should just fly off somewhere? Then why are they in the same motel room that I've seen countless others stay in when they're in Salem? Is the show really that cheap that they can't redress their lone motel set?

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This show would go all out for Cin and a wedding may never happen but Ericole who have waited two decades and this is their first marriage goes through and is treated as an afterthought.

Course I guess it could be worse they could be having a Post Covid wedding.

That's real logical.

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54 minutes ago, bunnyblue said:

Didn't Steve & Kayla say that since they were already at the airport they should just fly off somewhere? Then why are they in the same motel room that I've seen countless others stay in when they're in Salem? Is the show really that cheap that they can't redress their lone motel set?

Yeah, it really looks like they are at the Hide-Out Motel doesn't it?  Maybe it's supposed to be some sort of joke?

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I think the wedding does actually happen (or some of it?) before all hell breaks loose because there was a backstage pic a few months ago that fit with the timing and RSW and VK were wearing wedding bands.

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Spoilers for the week of July 20th - from soaps.com:

Monday July 20:
Gabi delivers tragic news to Jake; An unexpected funeral stirs up mixed emotions.

Tuesday July 21:
Ben gets a surprising phone call.

Wednesday July 22:
Belle realizes Claire lied to her.

Thursday July 23:
Chaos erupts at Ben and Ciara’s wedding.

Friday July 24:
Sami and Lucas rush to the hospital to be with Allie.

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1 hour ago, QueenSerena said:

Gabi delivers tragic news to Jake; An unexpected funeral stirs up mixed emotions.

I could be reading this all wrong, but these 2 spoilers make it sound like Vivian dies.

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