Season 5 Discussion

[Nowhere]

I think once you give heirloom jewelry to someone it is theirs. In this case it was right for the ex to give it back to Josh, but it will always be his first wife's ring now, even if it is not in her possession. This is why you should think through who you give your special ring to. If they had a kid together it should be given to the kid. If not then, he's shit out of luck. 

I gave my old engagement ring to my daughter and she wears it on her pinky. I couldn't imagine putting it back on if another man proposes to me. How would that man feel knowing I wanted to wear my old engagement ring given to me by my ex? Same principle.

Edited November 20, 2017 by Nowhere

[HappyDancex2]

2 carat heart shaped ring for 12K?  Typical....aika going for obvious rather than quality.  And in one sentence she says it's not about the ring, it's all about getting married and having a family...having a baby...she's worried about his lack of action in getting a ring and following through....yikes whatever.  LOL!

Luis has a terrible swing.  Shit.

Nicole seems to have latched on to one mantra "you don't gotta change for no man" which translates into if relates to exercise or something you don't want to do, file this under "changing for a man."  Eye roll.  Hassan needs to stay in Morocco and find someone else.  Please move on dude.  You are correct...by your standards she is fat and lazy and has no interest in the paramounts of healthy living.  It's pretty simple...she's not exactly hiding this from you.

I can't get past Evilyn's pasted on smile talking.  Somewhere along the line she was praised for this.  She has an annoying way of saying something glib and condescending and then smiling really big like she pooped in the toilet and wants praise.  It's ridiculously annoying.

Blowup sex toy mouth and Andy need to elope at the town hall and then have Moldovian monkey sex on the bed daddy bought.  Yup.   And Daddy outted her by saying she's a part time employee that makes shitty nepotism wages and has no real job skillz.  Whoops.  Andy seems like a take charge kind of guy....good for him.

[Splithair]

I'm not sold on Andreiii yet, although I don't think he is the monster he was being portrayed as early in the season.

He gets a point for having savings and a plan for future employment that doesn't include modeling or the music industry, unlike many of the others (including the American fiances).

[HappyDancex2]

"And mind you....his family STILL DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH so I'm just here for him and he's going out with friends."   Maybe Nicole could spend time with Rosetta Stone instead of sleeping so much.

Nicole keeps saying "I want to talk.  I wish he would talk.  He should stay home and talk.  We need to talk."  Seriously talk the fuck about what??   He said he wants you to work out.  This is important to him  It's not important to you.  You don't want to.   You think he's trying to change you for the worse, you want him to accept you for yourself as a fat woman.  He won't.  You don't.   Take May home.  Famewhore.

Azan.  Things will not change when you get to America.  She will tell you that working out is too hard.  She will use her child as a pawn.  She wants to talk to you is code for "I'm not listening to you."  Send her and May home.  Famewhore.

[HappyDancex2]

When fake smiling Evilyn was spinning around her vintage kitchen, smiling and admiring her vintage appliances, smiling and imagining her dining room table and then twirling and smiling while putting a nice real evergreen holiday Claremontian tree in the corner, did anyone hear "be our guest, be our guest, BE OUR GUEEEEESSSSSTTTT!"  in their heads?  No?  Just me?

Nothing says recording studio like 6 inch wallpaper border.

[gavinmac]

I thought Andrei handled the interrogation by her brother and father pretty well. I figured he'd just stand up and bash them both over the head like Frankenstein.

I've actually been to Moldova.  Here's a fun fact: there's a big mall on the outskirts of the capital city. And it's called . . . MallDova.

[biakbiak]

Kensley can move in with her father, Louis can miss me with that nonsense. 

[Desert Rat]

2 hours ago, Pollo Loco said:

I think the issue is that he'd already used the ring on his first wife. As others have mentioned, if he'd made the effort to put the stone in a new ring at least, it could at least be considered a new ring. 

An heirloom ring is as much about the setting as the stone, maybe more. 

[ChiCricket]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

I can only afford a little bit of wine and some brandy.

Here it's the opiod problem that is rampant.

I thought Josh was possibly using opioids because of his large pupils. That was a dead give away when I was a pharmacy tech.

[timesywimesy]

1 hour ago, Splithair said:

Is it just me or did he look stoned AF in the restaurant scene?

When DOESN’T he look stoned???

[Splithair]

18 minutes ago, HappyDancex2 said:

When fake smiling Evilyn was spinning around her vintage kitchen, smiling and admiring her vintage appliances, smiling and imagining her dining room table and then twirling and smiling while putting a nice real evergreen holiday Claremontian tree in the corner, did anyone hear "be our guest, be our guest, BE OUR GUEEEEESSSSSTTTT!"  in their heads?  No?  Just me?

Nothing says recording studio like 6 inch wallpaper border.

Claremontian - love it

[millennium]

Poor David Spain.   Came all the way across the Atlantic to marry a high school girl, figured when he said jump she'd say how high and when can I come down.   Putty in his hands.  Now he discovers she has not only a strong will but a dream she wants to chase.   No wonder he looks constipated all the time.

I get that Evelyn may seem unlikable.   But I don't think she's a bitch, or needs to be slapped, or body-shamed.

Edited November 20, 2017 by millennium

[gavinmac]

If Andrrrrrei was living in Ireland on a student visa, doesn't that mean university student? If so, why is his goal to be a truck driver? I have nothing against truck drivers, but why wouldn't he pursue a career in his field of study, something that might have a higher financial ceiling and not require him to be away from home all the time (if he's talking about long distance truck driving)? 

It's hard to control your subservient wife's every move when she's at home and you're hauling oranges from Florida to Minneapolis.

Edited November 20, 2017 by gavinmac

[Splithair]

44 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Kensley can move in with her father, Louis can miss me with that nonsense. 

Yea, I wasn't sure if he was saying she can choose to live with her dad if she doesn't like Luis, as in "oh well, what can I do?" or if it was like "cool, problem solved."

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 hour ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I can't get past Evilyn's pasted on smile talking.  Somewhere along the line she was praised for this.  She has an annoying way of saying something glib and condescending and then smiling really big like she pooped in the toilet and wants praise.  It's ridiculously annoying.

OMG! THIS! You freaking nailed it! Dilley! Dilley!

[Desert Rat]

5 hours ago, ALittleShelfish said:

 

Also, is Azan getting paid per use of the word "lazy"?

The script writers need a thesaurus. Maybe throw in some is these to mix things up -- idle, indolent, slothful, work-shy, shiftless, inactive, underactive, sluggish, lethargic, remiss, negligent, slack,  lax, lackadaisical.  All of these suit Nicole. 

Edited November 20, 2017 by Desert Rat

[loki310]

I felt like I was watching the movie Get Out when that producer and Evelyn were shocked SHOCKED! that David would want to leave their whitebred paradise. Like, “no one ever leaves New Hampshire” (cue ominous music)...

[HappyDancex2]

7 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

OMG! THIS! You freaking nailed it! Dilley! Dilley!

To the Pit of Misery!! (their wedding)  Dilly dilly!

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 minute ago, HappyDancex2 said:

To the Pit of Misery!! (their wedding)  Dilly dilly!

Dilly Dilly!  LOL you beat me to it! Pit of misery   Dilly Dilly!

[liammaam]

Evelyn should never, ever wear those jeans again.  David seems very nice... but he's proof of the travails that can happen if you are thinking with your dick and not your brain.  Her voice.  I hate it.  It makes me want to put oxygen on her because she's so breathy and I am afraid she's going to pass out.  Bitch is selfish.  Very, very 18.

Nicole.  Girl.  I hate you and your whiny ways, but imma tell you straight:  Anyone who says they are attracted to you "55 percent" wants to run far, far away from you.  There are so many men that don't need you to lose weight, or will at the very LEAST lie with believability.  The "lazy" comments were getting to me (Azan, dude.  I know all about the fat girl angles, but you should have had SOME clue from video chatting), until I saw that she SLEEPS IN UNTIL 3PM!?  Wtf.  That kinda blew my mind.  Yup, that's sheer laziness.  

David is rapidly gaining his weight back.  He's such a sad sack, and Annie could have done better.  I LOVE Chris' wife.  "I only go with it because Chris asked me to."  Cue amazing side eye <3  

Josh with the creepy porn eyes freaks me out.  Aika is very likable and personable- she just needs to tone down the eyelashes, and of course- run away from porn Josh as quickly as possible.  Josh, you so tacky.  And those fucking plugs.  

Elizabeth looks sooooo much better with no lipstick on.   Her family sucks.  

Why the fuck would Molly think that a 26 year-old male would be ready and equipped to be a stepfather to girls who do not WANT a step father?   Ooooh, man- when that sharing the food scene happened last episode, did anyone else feel Luis switching on the Sanky Panky??  It was almost obscene, and so totally a power move in front of Olivia.  It was gross. 

Edited November 20, 2017 by liammaam
forgot to mention Molly's idiocy.

[HappyDancex2]

17 minutes ago, gavinmac said:

If Andrrrrrei was living in Ireland on a student visa, doesn't that mean university student? If so, why is his goal to be a truck driver? I have nothing against truck drivers, but why wouldn't he pursue a career in his field of study, something that might have a higher financial ceiling and not require him to be away from home all the time (if he's talking about long distance truck driving)? 

It's hard to control your subservient wife's every move when she's at home and you're hauling oranges from Florida to Minneapolis.

I almost thought he just used that as something to say to the Dad because he knew the question was coming.  He was almost daring the guy to say something disparaging about truck drivers.  He's very calculated.   I still think he's going to keep his day job as every stereotypical assassin in a tom cruise movie.

[HappyDancex2]

Just now, liammaam said:

Evelyn should never, ever wear those jeans again.  David seems very nice... but he's proof of the travails that can happen if you are thinking with your dick and not your brain.  Her voice.  I hate it.  It makes me want to put oxygen on her because she's so breathy and I am afraid she's going to pass out.  Bitch is selfish.  Very, very 18.

Nicole.  Girl.  I hate you and your whiny ways, but imma tell you straight:  Anyone who says they are attracted to you "55 percent" wants to run far, far away from you.  There are so many men that don't need you to lose weight, or will at the very LEAST lie with believability.  The "lazy" comments were getting to me (Azan, dude.  I know all about the fat girl angles, but you should have had SOME clue from video chatting), until I saw that she SLEEPS IN UNTIL 3PM!?  Wtf.  That kinda blew my mind.  Yup, that's sheer laziness.  

David is rapidly gaining his weight back.  He's such a sad sack, and Annie could have done better.  I LOVE Chris' wife.  "I only go with it because Chris asked me to."  Cue amazing side eye <3  

Josh with the creepy porn eyes freaks me out.  Aika is very likable and personable- she just needs to tone down the eyelashes, and of course- run away from porn Josh as quickly as possible.  Josh, you so tacky.  And those fucking plugs.  

Elizabeth looks sooooo much better with no lipstick on.   Her family sucks.  

True to the whole post but that whole paragraph is what is wrong with both Nicole and Azan.  They both are telling each other the truth and neither of them is believing the other.  Which is why I called them famewhores. 

Azan is calling her a fat, lazy and only partially attractive (to him.)  Like GIRL.   Why are you settling for that shit???

Nicole is trying to make him an insta-daddy and she wants him to be more devoted to her than she is to him.  Azan....she's so immature and is never going to change.  And she's lazy and that child is going to soon be a not so adorable HOT MESS.  Go find yourself a fit girl that you are 65% attracted to.  EYE ROLL

[guilfoyleatpp]

I'm like Andreiiiii more and more every episode. He's a take no shit and take no prisoners dude. I wasn't into it before, but now I see what she sees in him.

Apparently, all you have to do to get Evelyn to desire anything is calmly and rationally point out to her that she's being unreasonable. "Evelyn, you should definitely not wipe the dog shit off your shoe with your hand. Here, use this paper towel."

"I'm a grown woman and this is my life! It's my shoe and my hand and I will get this dog poo off however I decide is best!" Sticks nose in the air, smiles smugly and proceeds to get shit all over her hands and clothes. Still smug after because she thinks she won.

[Real Eyes]

4 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

Why is May asking up so often crying? Why is it so hard for Nicole to figure out why?  When my kids were that age, they woke crying only when they were sick.  She is a lazy, inattentive mother. 

My youngest woke up every night. He didn’t cry, but he wouldn’t sleep alone. I would go lie down with him until he fell asleep. 

 

Kids are different. However, she probably needs more physical activity.  

 

My kids wore diapers at 2. But I never changed them during the night. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

3 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

When fake smiling Evilyn was spinning around her vintage kitchen, smiling and admiring her vintage appliances, smiling and imagining her dining room table and then twirling and smiling while putting a nice real evergreen holiday Claremontian tree in the corner, did anyone hear "be our guest, be our guest, BE OUR GUEEEEESSSSSTTTT!"  in their heads?  No?  Just me?

Haha YESSS! And she has the Belle hairdo!

2 hours ago, liammaam said:

Evelyn should never, ever wear those jeans again.......... Her voice.  I hate it.  

Whoever said pancake ass upthread was right. How do jeans get faded/stonewashed ONLY in the pancake ass anyway?

Her voice IS maddening.  No air (how does she SING ffs) and her smiling upper lip cannot come down over her big teeth. Unless she's pouting.

[Bubbles1967]

7 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Oh Nicole working out in Jean capri's, obviously she is not taking this seriously.

She doesn’t own any workout clothes so it was the best she could do. He probably sprung this on her so she didn’t have time to buy something to wear.

If someone told me he was attracted to me 55%  (WTF) I would be on the plane

[gavinmac]

3 hours ago, liammaam said:

David is rapidly gaining his weight back.  He's such a sad sack, and Annie could have done better. 

Impoverished, tattooed 24 year old Bangkok bargirls don't have great marriage options. No respectable Thai man will marry them. Their options are to marry a poor, low class Thai guy who might REALLY drink a lot and beat them and make them keep working in the bar as long as possible while living off the girl's money. 

Or they can marry a foreigner they meet in their bar, and believe me, those guys can be really creepy and old and way worse than the broke and occasionally tipsy David.  

[Bubbles1967]

6 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

I think Evelyn is so determined to stay in Claremont because deep down She   knows she has just about enough talent to eke out a “career” in a town the size of Claremont, with gigs at the local church, school functions, the county fair, etc.  She knows she doesn’t have the sand or the talent to even try any place bigger than a one stoplight town. 

She’s a big fish in a little pond. 

[hoosiermom]

Perhaps Evelyn’s family will have a group hobbling of David so he and Evelyn have to stay put.

Edited November 20, 2017 by hoosiermom
Spell check sucks

[Bryce Lynch]

8 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Did....did David wince at her attempt at the high note? Poor thing needs a vocal coach, she is not breathing properly and seems to be chocking out the song rather than singing.

Evelyn seems to almost breathe in the "notes" (most of the sounds she makes don't sound like actual musical notes) rather than breathing them out.

[nlkm9]

7 hours ago, Nowhere said:

It may have been his mother's ring but he chose a woman to give it to and she was nice enough to give it back when she dumped his ass. He should put it in a box and keep it in his safe. Not give it to the next woman on his list. He made a choice. It didn't work out. Im having a hard time believing anyone would want your fiancé's ex wife's ring. 

When he explained it was his mother’s ring i do understand how special that is. I never had an engagement ring but at 10 years i got an eternity band- not sure why the ring is so important to her..... as special as the ring is,perhaps if he put it in a different setting ?

her eyelashes drive me crazy. 

[CoachWristletJen]

8 hours ago, Kelly said:

How did I miss this?! I might need to rewatch - where was it in the episode?

Right before the new episode, the rerun the last week's episodes along with some extra scenes. The extra scenes are probably online someplace.

8 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Evelyn seems to almost breathe in the "notes" (most of the sounds she makes don't sound like actual musical notes) rather than breathing them out.

So true! She reminds me of Amy Adams from Enchanted except she's bitchy.

Also, Amy Adams could sing.

Evelyn would do great in one of those tribes where they stretch the neck out because they think it's so beautiful. 

Edited November 20, 2017 by CoachWristletJen

[CoachWristletJen]

7 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Aika, you get what you get. You are marrying the *man*. You can always trade up for the diamond you want in a few years. You'll be with him forever, right?

For the folks finding foreign 'loves of their lives', please do yourself a favour and don't make promises or offers to them that you have no intention of keeping.

I think she'll have better luck trading up husbands in a couple of years.

[bethster2000]

7 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

I did notice that Evelyn didn't care about his life goals and dreams. Both aren't in the same fairytale book, much less the same story.

 

Beautifully stated.  And oh, she thinks she is just a little dear, doesn't she?  It's Evelyn's world, and we are just all living in it.  And you better not mention anything Miss Twee doesn't like, or you will be subjected to her withering scorn...disguised in a beatific creepy grin, of course.

[millennium]

Weirdo Chris' wife is a natural beauty and seems intelligent.   I can't imagine why she's with Chris, or why his eye's roving in Annie's direction.   

[Awfarmington]

8 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

I'm not materialistic.  Oh no.  I only want a 2 carat diamond ring in a platinum setting. 

By being with Josh, it's a very reasonable demand. As well as a Porsche, and a mansion...with separate bedrooms. 

[Granny58]

1.  Andrrrrrei is sexy as hell.  Yes please.

2.  Libby...my god, I just want to punch her in the face everytime she says his name.

3.  Azan is a nag.   

4.  Nicole sleeps until 3:00 p.m.????  Is this due to jet lag for May?  I hope that in the USA she's on a better schedule.  

5.  David Spain has a degree in international business, right?  No wonder he doesn't want to live in rural NH.  How is he going to use that there?  Makes perfect sense to live in a more metropolitan area, especially if they will have a traditional household and she will be a SAHM (or at a minimum, not the main breadwinner).  

6.  Molly to Olivia - "I would think you would want me to be happy."  I HATE that sort of catch 22 manipulation.  Is there any right answer to that?  Of course not.  

7.  Aika - I'm not materialistic, I want children.  One or the other dear but not both in the same conversation as you "deserving" the 2 karat ring.  

Edited November 20, 2017 by Granny58
another thought

[merylinkid]

5 hours ago, gavinmac said:

not require him to be away from home all the time (if he's talking about long distance truck driving)?

That's the whole point.    It's what Mohammed did.    He can claim a legal marriage while having an excuse to not actually be around his American wife.   Although I will say Andrei is probably  more in love with Elizabeth than Mo was with Danielle.

 

As for the ring, yeah, if it's a family heirloom, you save it for your kids not hand it over to the new wife.   Of course, his kids probably want nothing to do with him so he can't hold it for kids who won't even invite him to their wedding.

[Granny58]

10 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Brother Molly, does he work or is baby sitting Luis his job?

Josh mentioning he has problems conceiving...is that code for he had a vasectomy and now needs to reverse it?  I swear if I see a GoFundMe page for that nonsense I will scream.  Aika is ignorant to the fact that it cost a lot of money for IVF and if they are successful it takes a lot of money to raise a baby.  UGH! This show makes me mad.

can meth use do something to one's fertility?

[Granny58]

9 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

In a big city, she would actually find plenty of talented music producers

But those producers would realize at once that she has no talent.

[lucy711]

9 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Father and Brother Elizabeth lost me at "WHY would you want to live in Maldova" I fully expected them to star chanting " USA USA "  dicks

I actually think it is a fair question since Moldova is one of the poorest countries in Europe and there is very little economic opportunity there.  I did a quick search and it looks like many people leave that country and work abroad to support their families and thus go months or years without seeing their spouses or children.  Andrei himself was in Ireland because of the lack of jobs in Moldova.  I don't think that the USA is the best country in the world in every area, and certainly people are happier elsewhere, but there are many, many places that are a lot worse.  Source: I have lived in other countries and have a number of ex-pat friends who share experiences with me.  There are many countries I'd be willing to live in- Moldova is probably not one of them, although I'm totally game for a visit.

[Bryce Lynch]

10 hours ago, bethster2000 said:

He incarnates everything that is loathsome and repugnant about a certain sort of Arizona male.  Usually resides in Mesa, AZ.  Drives a pickup truck.  Loves Trump.  Adores guns.  Has a very low opinion of women in general.  Fearful of "feminazis."  Convinced that American women are all no-good sluts who do not know how to take care of A Wonderful Guy Like Him.

A big believer of "building the wall."  Catch my drift?

I see Josh differently.  First, I thought he drove an SUV.  I've seen nothing about him loving Trump or guns.   

He seems to have (at least) 2 major issues to me. 

1) He has a low view of himself  (perhaps not without cause) and believes he couldn't find a decent American woman (he might be right).  By going to the Philippines he believed he could get a woman who would be out of his league, if she were an American.  He also wants a "hot" woman to build his self esteem and because he thinks having one on his arm will make people think more of him.

2) He has a pornified view of women and what women should be like.   

There are plenty of great guys who drive pickup trucks and like guns, etc, who respect women.  There are also plenty of guys who hate guns and drive Priuses who have the same sort of warped view of women that Josh has (and there are good guys who hate guns and like Priuses).  

As we have seen from the recent headlines, (and from throughout history) there are screwed up men, some of them predatory, all across the political spectrum.   

43 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

But those producers would realize at once that she has no talent.

Ding!  I think one reason Evelyn is so attached to her current producer is that he is the only one she has found who appreciates her "great potential" and "unique voice".   I wonder if he is just clueless or if he is just taking her money.  

[TaraS1]

8 hours ago, mamadrama said:

No idea. I live in a county with a 60% unemployment rate. Drawing disability checks is the biggest form of income here and the poverty rate is one of the highest in the nation (no shit, the county next to me is always in the top 3). Still, our heroin problem is out of control. People can't afford to buy real clothes to wear to the Dollar General to pick up their Mountain Dews but they can maintain, dammit. Cause that's important. 

Mamadrama, I suspect we live verrrrry close to each other lol

7 hours ago, gavinmac said:

I thought Andrei handled the interrogation by her brother and father pretty well. I figured he'd just stand up and bash them both over the head like Frankenstein.
 

This is exactly what I want him to do at the reunion show....go full on Hulk and start smashing everyone.

[CofCinci]

8 hours ago, ThinkerBell said:

Annie breaks my heart. She seems like a lovely young woman who has found herself in a bleak relationship with a broke, middle-aged, borderline alcoholic. What does she possibly have to look forward to? Her comment that she is an only daughter was quite telling -- I think she sees her marriage as a sacrifice she needs to make in order to help her family in Thailand.

If I were in her shoes, I’d look forward to his death. When he dies she can take his social security surviving spouse monthly check right back to Thailand and live comfortably. 

[Bryce Lynch]

1 hour ago, Granny58 said:

can meth use do something to one's fertility?

I am guessing he had a vasectomy.  He has fathered children in the past, and men who are not actively trying to have kids normally aren't checking their sperm counts.  So, most likely, he would only know there was an issue if he had a vasectomy (or some sort of accident). 

3 hours ago, Bubbles1967 said:

She doesn’t own any workout clothes so it was the best she could do. He probably sprung this on her so she didn’t have time to buy something to wear.

If someone told me he was attracted to me 55%  (WTF) I would be on the plane

It seems like Nicole made a pretty good effort in the workout.

So Azan is attracted to Nicole 55% and trusts her 40%.  Altogether that is 95%.  If he respects her 5% she will be his dream girl. :)

[Lindy Dear]

It's hard to know which of these love-bird couples is more sickening than the others. Where to begin? How's about an alleged step- father wannabe suggesting a minor child consider f---ing" her boyfriend and Mama Molly remaining committed to the relationship nonetheless? Could Luis be brought up on charges of child endangerment and abuse for that alone? Possibly? Do authorities anywhere catch this show? The poor Thai lady along the one from the Philippines have sold themselves to the lowest bidders: both losers, one an abject jobless drunk and the other, a jobless felon abuser who apparently has failed to let his "I wanna have a baby now" fiance know he's sterile? Azan and Nicole may how warrant whatever their delusional hell brings next. But can poor little May be rescued? Where's Grandma when we need her? The Grandma who wept so openly at the very thought of what her grand daughter was being subjected to when "mom" yanked her half-way around the world, far away from any hope of sanity? f Elizabeth is comfortable following Andrei to Maldova after all the green card effort, so be it and her daddy is right to say go it on your own. How will this fare? Andrei is clearly a bully and gives the impression he's capable of selling her into white slavery. Or if he stays i n the US and fulfills his aspiration to be a truck driver....what are the odds he'd be capable in any way of obeying any relevant US laws? Finally, David and Evelyn. Run David, Run. Run as fast as you can. Just run.

[millennium]

1 hour ago, Granny58 said:

But those producers would realize at once that she has no talent.

Since when has that stopped anyone of the youtube generation?

[millennium]

11 minutes ago, Lindy Dear said:

 Finally, David and Evelyn. Run David, Run. Run as fast as you can. Just run.

I'm having a hard time understanding why David is considered the potential victim here.   He's a 26-year-old man who courted a girl just out of high school.   Despite knowing that Evelyn lives in small town America, and that she has close emotional and professional ties to her family and hometown, the first thing David did when he landed was to say he's taking her away.  Then, in cruel and calculated fashion, he set about alienating Evelyn from her friend, insulting Michaela and making her cry in the process.

I have no sympathy for any man that age who seeks a relationship with a teenager, or who tries to manipulate her.   He deserves all the grief he gets.

Edited November 20, 2017 by millennium

[Granny58]

9 minutes ago, Lindy Dear said:

who apparently has failed to let his "I wanna have a baby now" fiance know he's sterile?

Oh yes, this!  To do that to a 36 yo is a horrible move.  I am almost certain that she would have told him she wants to start a family (and his "now?  I was thinking a couple of years." DUDE at 36 women are nearing the END of fertility) so if he has fertility issues and didn't mention it...that would indicate that he knew she would bolt and then he wouldn't have arm candy.  Disgusting (if this is the case).  

12 minutes ago, Lindy Dear said:

Andrei is clearly a bully and gives the impression he's capable of selling her into white slavery. Or if he stays i n the US and fulfills his aspiration to be a truck driver....what are the odds he'd be capable in any way of obeying any relevant US laws

Interesting....I get a 180 degree different view of Andrrrrei.  I think he's (so far) turned out to be respectful, controlled and not a bully at all.  

[bichonblitz]

Josh has no intentions of having more kids. Aika doesn't have time to try to convince him otherwise. Her biological clock is tik tik ticking. She needs to give the tiny diamond back to Josh and go hunt for another American. Next time ask to see his financials before wasting your time.