S12.E12: Farm-To-Table Manners

[ivygirl]

2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

And love.

To think all of these years, I've been eating loveless cold American food. Dispassionate frozen Nigerian food learned from my mother. Indifferent frigid Chinese food. Unhappy icy Mexican food. Sad chilly Italian food.

Man, my grandma cooked Russian food in the Cold War 80's! It's amazing I'm here to tell the story of my cold*, unloving* grandma.

 

* not really

[Pop Tart]

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I do believe Peggy is trying to create controversy where there is none.  She had to have known the subject would come up when she took a camera crew to her doctor's appointment.  Today she gave a disconnected interview about the situation and claimed she was in denial about having cancer as her father had died in December.  As the prophylactic mastectomy becomes more common, I really don't think it hurts for anyone, if they are going to make it public, and televise part of their journey, to maybe coherent about the journey.  I think most people want to know if Peggy's cancer required chemo or radiation, I was, as I felt bad for her given her family history.  Meghan and her going into her family's history, might have opened the door for Peggy but she just doesn't see it.  Maybe she should have watched Seasons 10 and 11 to get an idea why being evasive is not a good idea.  I think the producers are trying to make something out of Peggy that just doesn't exist with this incredibly inner directed human being.   

I agree that since Peggy has been using her prophylactic surgery as a part of her story it's natural for the other women to ask her about it (Vicki's fake cancer story aside). If someone told me that they'd had this surgery, I would have questions about the whys and wherefores, many women would. We all want to try and make sure that cancer doesn't happen to us so learning about what other women have done/chosen is an understandable behavior. The only reason the women are persisting with questions is because Peggy has been cagey and I'd argue, deliberately confusing, in her answers. She's told one woman one thing and a totally different thing to another. And when she's asked directly and sympathetically by Megan, whose mother made the same decision, she gets even more obtuse in her responses and snotty to boot. 

And once again with the not understanding a slang term? I am convinced she did know what peanut gallery means. She had a brief flash of almost responding directly to the comment and then you could see her suddenly remember that her schtick is to be the adorable (??blech) Armenian who just can't get all these English terms. Especially since she then proceeded to talk about how she goes to nice galleries (in her talking head), not peanut ones. Even if she'd never heard the phrase before this (which I don't believe), she could certainly figure it out in context. 

I really can't stand Peggy.

But I also hate Lydia - so I delighted in her realization that everyone was at the dinner except for Vicki and her. Loved, loved, loved. And it looks like next week she's still trying to figure out how she didn't get invited, so clearly it bugged her majorly. Total win. 

[Mindthinkr]

40 minutes ago, Lizzing said:

Yes, it is real.  Here's a SFW article on it (no before & after pics, though those are available elsewhere to view at your own peril).  https://health.usnews.com/wellness/health-buzz/articles/2016-11-22/scrotox-why-men-are-getting-botox-in-their-scrotums 

After watching WWHL, I am 100% convinced that Lydia did not know that a vasectomy was not a castration until Doug actually the procedure.  IMO she was covering her dumb ass with the story it was just a joke that went on too long.

No thanks on looking up the photos elsewhere. I would never have believed...Will wonders of vanity ever cease? 

[Should Be Working]

1 hour ago, Cherrio said:

On WHHL last night Lydia got shit from 2 callers.   Don't quote me because I was half asleep, but the first was a ream out about how Jesus loves everyone including drag queens, gays etc. The woman calling really gave it to her and of course she was set up because they screen the calls or bleep them. It was GREAT!

 The second was something about her first failed magazine and the new one.

Oh and she lost a poll about Shannon versus Lydia.  Shannon won with over 60%.

Andy also made it clear he was going to question Lydia further about her murky and bullshit explanation about the bingo party.

         Someone should of explained to Peggy that the Peanut Gallery is where Dougs balls will go after they remove them with a tweezer.

I've never had the stomach for watching WWHL but viewed this episode based on your comments about Lydia's Monday night appearance. 

Upon first being introduced, Lydiot stands up and gives us her very lame trademark stick arms waving, shoulder shaking dance. Knock it off, Lydiot. You're a badly preserved middle-aged woman, not some frolicking 15 year old girl.

Apparently there's a Real Housewives award show and, drum roll please, Lydiot and sad sack Doug are nominated for Prom King and Queen. She is ever hopeful they will win. Too bad there isn't a "Most hypocritical, superficial, mean-spirited, and obnoxious rich couple" award to guarantee a win for them.

Lydiot made a point of clarifying for us all, lest there still be any lingering confusion out there, that a vasectomy does not involve castration. Thank you, you little moron. That's like Vicki waving a finger and solemnly explaining to the public that cancer is most certainly not a disease one should ever fraudulently pretend to have.

Fumbled terribly in her labored explanation of how the fact that the bible does not specifically mention or support drag queens doesn't mean that it condemns it. Which set Cohen's eyes to rolling furiously.

When asked by a very concerned caller why she and Shannon couldn't just get along, Lydiot patiently explained that she had tried very hard to be friends with Shannon. That confirmed it: this posterwoman for midlife anorexia actually believes everyone else is terminally naive and just as stupid and inattentive as she is. She needs to be jettisoned from the show with great malice.

That was all I could take. Click.

[esco1822]

From Lydia's blog:

"Shannon loves a scene. Even at the farmhouse dinner with the girls she says "I don't like drama." And then her next breath she starts a confrontation with Peggy!!! She says one thing and does another so why would I trust her when she says she wasn't squeezing legs about me and not trying to cause a scene...I agree with Meghan and Tamra, the whole thing is dumb. I have never engaged with a grown woman in such juvenile behavior."

Um, but you did. Ya burnt. 

[Mu Shu]

1 hour ago, Normades said:

I really wonder how Vicki's insurance sales are.  I would think that all the negativity surrounding her would really affect her sales.  I mean, who would want to ever do business with her knowing what we all know.  Plus you don't see Vicki constantly talking about working so hard.  Makes me wonder.  Does anyone know what state her business is in??  (I mean for real, not this story line of a partnership and leaving the great dynasty to her children & grandchildren.)

My suspicion is that she transferred some of her book of business to Michael when he came on so he could start out with an income.  I don't think she writes that much new business,  so the only income she would have is whatever accounts she retained, and the little money she makes selling crap leads to new agents.    She should be comfortable at this point, but like I said before, she doesn't have the personality or the ability to put the clients needs first to be a really successful agent who sells in person.  She's a huckster.  A phone sales slammer.   Probably sells annuities with her vast knowledge of personal finances and her G.E.D.

Michael is probably doing well.  He's pretty low key, and has a lifetime of sitting back observing.  

[MaggieG]

I enjoyed the last 5 minutes of the episode. Kelly reading Vickie's text and Meghan saying "the text says I'm dramatic as fuck, and I have to put a letter next to influenza to make it seem like I'm dying" or however she said it made me laugh.

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, Pop Tart said:

I agree that since Peggy has been using her prophylactic surgery as a part of her story it's natural for the other women to ask her about it (Vicki's fake cancer story aside). If someone told me that they'd had this surgery, I would have questions about the whys and wherefores, many women would. We all want to try and make sure that cancer doesn't happen to us so learning about what other women have done/chosen is an understandable behavior. The only reason the women are persisting with questions is because Peggy has been cagey and I'd argue, deliberately confusing, in her answers. She's told one woman one thing and a totally different thing to another. And when she's asked directly and sympathetically by Megan, whose mother made the same decision, she gets even more obtuse in her responses and snotty to boot. 

And once again with the not understanding a slang term? I am convinced she did know what peanut gallery means. She had a brief flash of almost responding directly to the comment and then you could see her suddenly remember that her schtick is to be the adorable (??blech) Armenian who just can't get all these English terms. Especially since she then proceeded to talk about how she goes to nice galleries (in her talking head), not peanut ones. Even if she'd never heard the phrase before this (which I don't believe), she could certainly figure it out in context. 

I really can't stand Peggy.

But I also hate Lydia - so I delighted in her realization that everyone was at the dinner except for Vicki and her. Loved, loved, loved. And it looks like next week she's still trying to figure out how she didn't get invited, so clearly it bugged her majorly. Total win. 

Add in that when Meghan tried to help explain what Kelly meant, Peggy cut her off and said she understood exactly what Kelly meant! She and Ditko are trying to make us believe they are the Lucy/Ricky of the HW world and failing miserably at it. LOL

[RHJunkie]

1 hour ago, esco1822 said:

From Lydia's blog:

"Shannon loves a scene. Even at the farmhouse dinner with the girls she says "I don't like drama." And then her next breath she starts a confrontation with Peggy!!! She says one thing and does another so why would I trust her when she says she wasn't squeezing legs about me and not trying to cause a scene...I agree with Meghan and Tamra, the whole thing is dumb. I have never engaged with a grown woman in such juvenile behavior."

Um, but you did. Ya burnt. 

Lydia sounds like an idiot. So basically, since Lydia's opinion of Shannon is different from how Shannon views herself, Shannon is obviously a liar that can't be trusted. There's far more subjectivity in how we view ourselves as individuals compared to how we retell a story or explain actual events that have taken place. I think Lydia likes drama so long as it doesn't embarrass her. I think while Lydia is on the gentler side of how she refers to her religious beliefs, I do also think that Lydia uses her religion to explain away anything she happens to be uncomfortable with. So if Lydia were to tell me that she doesn't like drama and doesn't use her religion as a scapegoat for her own un-comfortableness, I guess it's fair game to insinuate that Lydia is a liar because she disagrees with MY OPINION of her. Oh wait, let's not forget that despite admitted in her THs that she was uncomfortable at the drag show and dressing up like a man, when Meghan brought it up, she flat out denied that the environment had anything to do with how she was feeling. So wait, Lydia does in fact lie!

[Mindthinkr]

7 hours ago, Normades said:

And what in the world is a peanut gallery or Cheech & Chong??  How could anyone of Armenia heritage who grew up in America ever know what that means??  Seriously, give me a break.  Plus I especially hate these people from OC especially trying to act like they've never heard of marijuana.  You're not fooling anyone!!

That to me was funny. Her daughter knew darn well what a blunt is and marijuana. It registered on her face. The reason she kept mum (Peggy, I don't mean mother...I mean to keep quiet) was if she disclosed her knowledge then Diko and Peggy would have jumped down her throat {Peggy I know that can't become literal as ppl do not fit into mouths...I mean to get all up in her business (I know she's too young to run an actual business) as in endless questions about where she learned about it (pretty much any school)}. Whew. 

Edited September 26, 2017 by Mindthinkr
Too, not to.

[TimeToCancelTM]

5 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Please disengage from the bike.

Please disengage from the bike.

Please disengage from the bike.

 

Ha ha ha!!! I too would hate that bike!

Was i the only one waiting for it to speed out of control on its own while her foot was stuck??? ?

[heatherchandler]

12 hours ago, 80sBaby said:

 

I defended Peggy regarding the medical questioning,,but now it's her turn. Lady CUT THE SHIT!! How is it possible that this woman has lived in the US since she was 1 has never heard one phrase, figure of speech, joke...NOTHING!  It's nonsense. "What is coal, What is bear in woods, What is peanut gallery..I wasn't in the middle."  STFU 

I suspect that Peggy is trying to be like Jessica Simpson circa Newlyweds.  Everyone thought she was SOOO cute and funny because she was so clueless.  And then America had enough of that, and it is 2017, and we don't want to deal with women pretending to be dumb for laughs.

[LilaFowler]

Shannon tells David that Spinning is her least favorite exercise, so he buys her an exercise bike. A more paranoid person might wonder if Hostage Eyes was trying to sabotage her exercise goals.

[nexxie]

31 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:

Shannon tells David that Spinning is her least favorite exercise, so he buys her an exercise bike. A more paranoid person might wonder if Hostage Eyes was trying to sabotage her exercise goals.

Or maybe he's messing with her mind.

[politichick]

Do we really think that Peggy went to UCLA?

[eclectcmoi]

55 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:

Shannon tells David that Spinning is her least favorite exercise, so he buys her an exercise bike. A more paranoid person might wonder if Hostage Eyes was trying to sabotage her exercise goals.

It does not appear David even cares what Shannon thinks or feels. Maybe he's burnt out by their relationship or maybe he misplaced his personality gene.  Either way, dude has checked out. 

Mom of the Week Award goes to Lydia for putting her feelings on to her son by telling him she wasn't invited somewhere.  Biatch please... It wasn't right to try to make your young son feel badly for you especially when it's a situation you brought on yourself.  Pack up your rainbows, your toys (and Doug's balls) and please get off my TV. 

Did anyone else catch when the howives were at dinner and they were talking about pre-cancerous cells, someone mentioned this in reference to what happens with some strains of HPV.  And they all chimed in and said they'd had HPV at one time or another.  I know HPV is probably one of if not the most common sexually transmitted disease, but I thought this was a big admission from all of them.  It seemed like a real girlfriend moment of sharing information.  I can only imagine though what Vicki would've said, if she'd been there.  She would've claimed she was as pure and untouched as a vestal virgin.  Yeah right... 

The Farmhouse at Roger's Gardens... My girls and I were just there this past Sunday for lunch. It is a really cool place and the gardens are beautiful.  I'm glad to see the wives behaved themselves and seemed to have a nice dinner. 

[SheTalksShit]

17 hours ago, enchantingmonkey said:

Whatever happened to K Dudd???  I'm sure she still has plenty of haters but I feel like she's doing some major image damage control.  She's even amusing to watch when she jokes around with Tamra and Shannon.  I wonder what Heather would think?  

Poor Peggy.  I think it would be tough coming into this group with no friends on the cast but was no one coaching her at all?  No producers giving her helpful hints?  She's looking like a complete moron at this point.  She needs to show up at the playground ready to pull some pigtails before she closes out the season being easily forgettable.  

Jury is still out for me on Peggy, I feel like she hasn't had enough airtime for me to even really form much an opinion BUT she is confusing, the cancer story, but I think it might be due to language barrier, not lies. I know she's been in this country for years, but she and her husband are both Armenian and probably speak it at home, when not filming. So that's still very much her dominant language and probably why she gets confused sometimes. 

[LVmom]

Shannon being a little off center(ok, a lot) does not exclude Lydia from being a shit disturber hiding behind innocent Bambi eyes. They can both suck, however  I think I'd take a million Shannons over 1 Lydia. At least with Shannon you know where you stand.

[SheTalksShit]

43 minutes ago, eclectcmoi said:

It does not appear David even cares what Shannon thinks or feels. Maybe he's burnt out by their relationship or maybe he misplaced his personality gene.  Either way, dude has checked out. 

Mom of the Week Award goes to Lydia for putting her feelings on to her son by telling him she wasn't invited somewhere.  Biatch please... It wasn't right to try to make your young son feel badly for you especially when it's a situation you brought on yourself.  Pack up your rainbows, your toys (and Doug's balls) and please get off my TV. 

Did anyone else catch when the howives were at dinner and they were talking about pre-cancerous cells, someone mentioned this in reference to what happens with some strains of HPV.  And they all chimed in and said they'd had HPV at one time or another.  I know HPV is probably one of if not the most common sexually transmitted disease, but I thought this was a big admission from all of them.  It seemed like a real girlfriend moment of sharing information.  I can only imagine though what Vicki would've said, if she'd been there.  She would've claimed she was as pure and untouched as a vestal virgin.  Yeah right... 

The Farmhouse at Roger's Gardens... My girls and I were just there this past Sunday for lunch. It is a really cool place and the gardens are beautiful.  I'm glad to see the wives behaved themselves and seemed to have a nice dinner. 

I think David is burnt out. I think Shannon means well, but the constant guilt-trips about spending more time together, about him being checked out, etc. would be exhausting for anyone and only make him further check out. I think she's right that she needs to make her happiness about more than just David and opening that restaurant is a good start. 

It's funny, too, bc I think Shannon's got a lot going for her. She's smart, she has friends, an adorable dog, kids, she seems to be well-connected and know a lot of people, and have a wide range of interests. So it's not like her life would be empty without David. smh. 

[Cherrio]

5 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

It's funny, too, bc I think Shannon's got a lot going for her. She's smart, she has friends, an adorable dog, kids, she seems to be well-connected and know a lot of people, and have a wide range of interests. So it's not like her life would be empty without David. smh. 

I agree.  I don't think David is Mr. Personality, in fact far from it.

I think Shannon has been longing for conversation, going interesting places and laughing, things David has not displayed.

[Mindthinkr]

25 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

an adorable dog,

You just can't say that enough! 

[Normades]

3 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Add in that when Meghan tried to help explain what Kelly meant, Peggy cut her off and said she understood exactly what Kelly meant! She and Ditko are trying to make us believe they are the Lucy/Ricky of the HW world and failing miserably at it. LOL

Yeah, what was that about?  If you're going to pretend you don't know what common phrases mean, then don't get all bent out of shape* when someone tries to explain things to you.

* FYI Peggy, I did not mean you were literally bent in some sort of pretzel shape, I meant upset, angry, indignant. :)

[FlyingEgret]

I was totally jealous of Shannon's Peleton bike until it wouldn't stop yelling at her.  And that was at the END of the workout - haha!

 

That said, those things are pricey and I think David was hoping that if Shannon did it enough she wouldn't hate it so much...

[RedheadZombie]

1 hour ago, SheTalksShit said:

Jury is still out for me on Peggy, I feel like she hasn't had enough airtime for me to even really form much an opinion BUT she is confusing, the cancer story, but I think it might be due to language barrier, not lies. I know she's been in this country for years, but she and her husband are both Armenian and probably speak it at home, when not filming. So that's still very much her dominant language and probably why she gets confused sometimes. 

She went to English speaking schools for seventeen years, and lived in an English speaking country from the age of one.  The only way I buy that she has a language barrier, is if she's profoundly mentally deficient.  Her husband, raised in Beirut, understands slang and common sayings, and seems surprised by this language barrier.

[RedheadZombie]

5 hours ago, Lizzing said:

Yes, it is real.  Here's a SFW article on it (no before & after pics, though those are available elsewhere to view at your own peril).  https://health.usnews.com/wellness/health-buzz/articles/2016-11-22/scrotox-why-men-are-getting-botox-in-their-scrotums 

After watching WWHL, I am 100% convinced that Lydia did not know that a vasectomy was not a castration until Doug actually the procedure.  IMO she was covering her dumb ass with the story it was just a joke that went on too long.

Plastics/Cosmetics have become completely out of control, and we can't count on a doctor to put the breaks on - they're the ones raking in the dough.  Just like women now go for completely shaved genitals, and that resulted in obsessing over their labia.  This leads to unnecessary and expensive procedures to make the labia more pretty.  I continue to be amazed that we women base our genital grooming off of porn.

[KungFuBunny]

18 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Seriously, Lydiot is just plain DUMB!  And I think it's ok that we refer to her as "Lydiot" even though we referred to that dumbass in Australia the same way.  Speaking of the Lydiot, what the hell? She's pissed that she's not invited to dinner that Shannon put together? Really?  Other thing that just reminds me that the girl is UBER DUMB is her continuation of the whole Doug's "balls being cut off" and the dumbshit Doug allowing that.  Jeebus, they went to the damn Doctor who explained what was really going to happen with his balls during a FREAKING VASECTOMY!! Sorry to yell!  But Christ on a cracker girl; if your dumbass husband was having his "balls cut off", it would be called a castration.  STUPID DUMB GIRL~ 

Kelly had a Boob Voyage party, Lydia doesn't have an original thought so she is going to throw Doug a Balls Voyage Party.

Next week, they should go on their deck where Lydia proceeds to paper mache Doug's Balls.

I hope she gets all of the ladies to sign it - mine would be Concastralations!

Side question: Is Lydia related to Mrs Duggar - there's a physical resemblence

[Normades]

3 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

That to me was funny. Her daughter knew darn well what a blunt is and marijuana.

And so did Peggy and Diko.  You can't tell me they've never heard of anything related to weed.  For heaven's sake, I believe it's legal in Cali.  I remember Kyle on RHBH trying to pretend she'd never heard of pot.  Yeah, right!  With sisters and a mother who reportedly hoovered up tons of coke in their day.  Not buying it.  

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

Or maybe he's messing with her mind.

Or maybe the bike was David's revenge for all the bitching over potatoes and and chips.  Either way, I say Go David!!!

1 hour ago, LVmom said:

does not exclude Lydia from being a shit disturber

OMG!!!  I just love shit disturber!!  Whenever anyone says the phrase correctly, this is what I think!! 

[RedheadZombie]

2 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Kelly had a Boob Voyage party, Lydia doesn't have an original thought so she is going to throw Doug a Balls Voyage Party.

Next week, they should go on their deck where Lydia proceeds to paper mache Doug's Balls.

I hope she gets all of the ladies to sign it - mine would be Concastralations!

Side question: Is Lydia related to Mrs Duggar - there's a physical resemblence

LOL.  I hope that poor moron has his privates waxed first. 

[KungFuBunny]

Just now, RedheadZombie said:

LOL.  I hope that poor moron has his privates waxed first. 

Can anyone think of a bible verse to justify man-scaping?

[SweetieDarling]

Do you think Lydiot and Fire Marshall Doug told the boys that Daddy's getting "his balls cut off"? Given the fact that they gave their sons the impression that they were going to jump over bonfires in the (S)He-Man race, you never know.  Between that and the "sex talk",  those poor kids have been unnecessarily traumatized (not to even mention Grandma and her fairy dust, etc, and a mother who channels Grover from Sesame Street with her wild arm movements).

[oakville]

5 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

My suspicion is that she transferred some of her book of business to Michael when he came on so he could start out with an income.  I don't think she writes that much new business,  so the only income she would have is whatever accounts she retained, and the little money she makes selling crap leads to new agents.    She should be comfortable at this point, but like I said before, she doesn't have the personality or the ability to put the clients needs first to be a really successful agent who sells in person.  She's a huckster.  A phone sales slammer.   Probably sells annuities with her vast knowledge of personal finances and her G.E.D.

Michael is probably doing well.  He's pretty low key, and has a lifetime of sitting back observing.  

I think that her insurance business would have declined as a result of the cancer scandals.

[notnowimbusy]

I would have given anything to see Lydia's face the first time she sees Doug's "Junk" after the surgery.   Wide eyes, arms flying around, head spinning, screaming "your balls are still there, WHY".    She really is dumb as a bag of hammers.   Both she and Doug always have such confused looks on their faces.    I just can't with her.

Runner up would be Peggy.   Now when she says she went to UCLA, maybe she did go there - to visit somebody, for a fund raiser, something, but I'm seriously doubting it was for any type of education.  

[SheTalksShit]

1 hour ago, Cherrio said:

I agree.  I don't think David is Mr. Personality, in fact far from it.

I think Shannon has been longing for conversation, going interesting places and laughing, things David has not displayed.

I think David CAN be Mr. Personality and very engaging, etc. BUT not with Shannon and THAT is what upsets her most, IMO. With her, he is checked out, and bc she knows that other side of him, she knows that it's personal and indicates disinterest. 

[KungFuBunny]

Last week cheetosandchoc posted that Peggy is Keyser Söze

The more I see Peggy, the more I'm convinced she is the reincarnation of Latka

Any minute now we will hear her say "Ibbi da"

[tvfanatic13]

10 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

I think Lydia had an "uh-oh!" moment when her little head realized she was iced out from the dinner! I could actually see the realization cross her face as those tiny wheels turned up there! Lol! Yup! That's what happens in real life, stupid. You act like a B I (tm-Ramoner), and you get excluded by your target from any future endeavors. 

 For some reason I could not like like this. 1000000 likes!

[RHJunkie]

Just caught up on the episode and I gotta say, I know Kelly was big no kidding she was getting back pain...those implants were massive! Kelly recovered quite quickly by the time Shannon came around...she couldn't recognize Vicki but she knew enough to recall Shannon and Lydia's argument, lol. Kelly's new boobs look great though. 

Tamra can't help herself...she just can't pass up a good gossip session. She's right, not everyone has to like everyone. And Lydia didn't bash Shannon so Tamra didn't need to jump up to defend Shannon. You can't defend someone not getting along with someone else. What Tamra didn't have to do was go to Meghan and retell her conversation with Shannon and basically throw shade at Shannon.

Was it intentional to have Peggy talking about all the flavours that go into Armenian cooking only to get a close up of what looked like her wrapping unseasoned meat in grape leaves? 

While Meghan got a lot of crap for her prying into the whole Brooks thing and she is quite nosy, I do think Meghan is one of the more reasonable women on the franchises in general. Even though Kelly hit way below the belt, Meghan was not so preoccupied with Kelly's comments that she couldn't recognize that she did something to hurt Kelly as well. Not many women on this show really show that level of rationale and accountability for their behaviour. 

This whole storyline of a clip present and a celebration..so stupid. Lydia has been lame AF this season.

[chenoa333]

6 hours ago, politichick said:

Do we really think that Peggy went to UCLA?

She might have swung by there to pick up a friend? Lol

Edited September 27, 2017 by chenoa333
I don't know

[Rubyslippahz]

For being such a prim priss about so much- drag queens, breast implants--Lydia sure loves to guffaw about her husbands balls.   That must be all part of the biblical, Nobleman lifestyle. . ps Lydia always wear your hair down not up to distract from your creepy little face.  

What madness when Kelly seems cool!  Her surgeon was creepy with all his 'your husband will like this! Lucky guy!' crap.  

they showed Peggys doc saying she had preinvasive cancer.  So she chose a relatively drastic treatment in part because her moms death.   Her choice and not crazy.   Shame on Shannon for trying to stir up shit with that. 

Influenza B is a thing-- more rare than A but not as rare as C haha

[SheTalksShit]

9 hours ago, Should Be Working said:

I've never had the stomach for watching WWHL but viewed this episode based on your comments about Lydia's Monday night appearance. 

Upon first being introduced, Lydiot stands up and gives us her very lame trademark stick arms waving, shoulder shaking dance. Knock it off, Lydiot. You're a badly preserved middle-aged woman, not some frolicking 15 year old girl.

Apparently there's a Real Housewives award show and, drum roll please, Lydiot and sad sack Doug are nominated for Prom King and Queen. She is ever hopeful they will win. Too bad there isn't a "Most hypocritical, superficial, mean-spirited, and obnoxious rich couple" award to guarantee a win for them.

Lydiot made a point of clarifying for us all, lest there still be any lingering confusion out there, that a vasectomy does not involve castration. Thank you, you little moron. That's like Vicki waving a finger and solemnly explaining to the public that cancer is most certainly not a disease one should ever fraudulently pretend to have.

Fumbled terribly in her labored explanation of how the fact that the bible does not specifically mention or support drag queens doesn't mean that it condemns it. Which set Cohen's eyes to rolling furiously.

When asked by a very concerned caller why she and Shannon couldn't just get along, Lydiot patiently explained that she had tried very hard to be friends with Shannon. That confirmed it: this posterwoman for midlife anorexia actually believes everyone else is terminally naive and just as stupid and inattentive as she is. She needs to be jettisoned from the show with great malice.

That was all I could take. Click.

Lydia is only 33 or 34. 

21 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

No Archie?  So what was the point of this episode?

Oh I know, I love Archie, he's sooooo cuuuuuute <3 I could just watch him the whole time 

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2 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

Lydia is only 33 or 34. 

Or maybe 36.  She has a youthful look but the heart of stone cold assassin.   I have always wondered -if Lydia is so dead set against having more children-why not get her tubes tied?  I believe it is because she is deeply insecure and is worried Dougie might walk away and find a new broodmare.   She would not be the first or the last.  I look at it this way-if she could undergo a "boob job" or mommy makeover she could spend an afternoon and the next day or two recovering from a tubal ligation.  

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1 hour ago, RHJunkie said:

Just caught up on the episode and I gotta say, I know Kelly was big no kidding she was getting back pain...those implants were massive! Kelly recovered quite quickly by the time Shannon came around...she couldn't recognize Vicki but she knew enough to recall Shannon and Lydia's argument, lol. Kelly's new boobs look great though. 

Tamra can't help herself...she just can't pass up a good gossip session. She's right, not everyone has to like everyone. And Lydia didn't bash Shannon so Tamra didn't need to jump up to defend Shannon. You can't defend someone not getting along with someone else. What Tamra didn't have to do was go to Meghan and retell her conversation with Shannon and basically throw shade at Shannon.

Was it intentional to have Peggy talking about all the flavours that go into Armenian cooking only to get a close up of what looked like her wrapping unseasoned meat in grape leaves? 

While Meghan got a lot of crap for her prying into the whole Brooks thing and she is quite nosy, I do think Meghan is one of the more reasonable women on the franchises in general. Even though Kelly hit way below the belt, Meghan was not so preoccupied with Kelly's comments that she couldn't recognize that she did something to hurt Kelly as well. Not many women on this show really show that level of rationale and accountability for their behaviour. 

This whole storyline of a clip present and a celebration..so stupid. Lydia has been lame AF this season.

Tamra is loyal to no one. Never has been. She will turn on you for no reason, you don't even have to do anything to her, once she gets sick of you, she will find any little reason to ditch you. It's been a pattern for her ever since her first season on the show. Why Shannon ever expected any loyalty from her is beyond me. Yet, what's weird to me, is how loyal all her friends seem to be to HER. Shannon went so far as to run into the room, just bc she felt bad that Tamra was in there by herself while Vicki was screaming at her. Then Shannon consoled her after and made it clear, she had her back. Meanwhile, on that same day, at the same party, Tamra couldn't be bothered to have her back in her argument w/Lydia and laughed off Lydia disliking her. And the next day, did she talk about how cool it was that Shannon had her back w/her fight w/Vicki? Nope, instead, she talked shit about her to Meghan, saying how she can't always be there for her...even though Shannon had just had her back w/Vicki at the very same party. And in her TH, she says Shannon can be exhausting, etc. Shannon had her back and THAT is the thanks she gets. 

At the risk of sounding like Donald Trump, I can't stand disloyal. That's the biggest thing I judge someone on. Are you good to those who are good to you? And Tamra is not, never has been. 

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Still not watching...

I see some giving Peggy a pass for not recognizing English terms/idioms/similes etc because she grew up with English as a second language, in a household where they only spoke Armenian, with mostly Armenian friends and relatives around. I'm first generation Cuban American. I grew up in Miami in the 80s, where you couldn't walk into many stores and find an English speaker to save your life, in a household where even now we only speak Spanish because our mother didn't want us to lose our native tongue, with only Cuban friends (I was in junior high school before I had my first "American" friend and yes there was only one in our whole school, we attended church where they spoke only Spanish and at the time half our school day was in Spanish. If I went home to Miami today after an hour of being there I would develop a slight accent on some words BUT I have never had any issues understanding slang or any other saying Peggy has an an issue with during her tenure on this show.

I will go one step beyond what I wrote above and say that my mother who learned English at night when she first came to this country in her 30s understands slang even when it's not explained to her. When she first heard the term "I shit you not" she understood what it meant in the context that it was used. Not for one moment did she ever think that someone might be denying shitting her out of their ass. She later developed an affinity for the phrase and would use it at the end of all her stories.  

So im gonna call bullshit on Peggy's ignorance. One term ok, two terms sure why not but 20? On 20 I'm going to either call bullshit or I'm going to suggest she visit a doctor.

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4 hours ago, Normades said:

Yeah, what was that about?  If you're going to pretend you don't know what common phrases mean, then don't get all bent out of shape* when someone tries to explain things to you.

* FYI Peggy, I did not mean you were literally bent in some sort of pretzel shape, I meant upset, angry, indignant. :)

Peggy is a TOTAL idiot and clueless. Her pretending that she doesn't know common phrases is to get attention. I don't believe she has a degree in English from UCLA. She's not smart enough to be able to pass the lit classes, which involve MAJOR analysis of all types of literature.

3 hours ago, notnowimbusy said:

I would have given anything to see Lydia's face the first time she sees Doug's "Junk" after the surgery.   Wide eyes, arms flying around, head spinning, screaming "your balls are still there, WHY".    She really is dumb as a bag of hammers.   Both she and Doug always have such confused looks on their faces.    I just can't with her.

Runner up would be Peggy.   Now when she says she went to UCLA, maybe she did go there - to visit somebody, for a fund raiser, something, but I'm seriously doubting it was for any type of education.  

^THIS

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4 minutes ago, bagger said:

Still not watching...

I see some giving Peggy a pass for not recognizing English terms/idioms/similes etc because she grew up with English as a second language, in a household where they only spoke Armenian, with mostly Armenian friends and relatives around. I'm first generation Cuban American. I grew up in Miami in the 80s, where you couldn't walk into many stores and find an English speaker to save your life, in a household where even now we only speak Spanish because our mother didn't want us to lose our native tongue, with only Cuban friends (I was in junior high school before I had my first "American" friend and yes there was only one in our whole school, we attended church where they spoke only Spanish and at the time half our school day was in Spanish. If I went home to Miami today after an hour of being there I would develop a slight accent on some words BUT I have never had any issues understanding slang or any other saying Peggy has an an issue with during her tenure on this show.

I will go one step beyond what I wrote above and say that my mother who learned English at night when she first came to this country in her 30s understands slang even when it's not explained to her. When she first heard the term "I shit you not" she understood what it meant in the context that it was used. Not for one moment did she ever think that someone might be denying shitting her out of their ass. She later developed an affinity for the phrase and would use it at the end of all her stories.  

So im gonna call bullshit on Peggy's ignorance. One term ok, two terms sure why not but 20? On 20 I'm going to either call bullshit or I'm going to suggest she visit a doctor.

As a foreigner myself coming here at 7 years old and having done all my schooling here...there is NO excuse for the ignorance she plays out to have. Like others from other countries have said, basic idioms is are part of our english language.

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12 hours ago, ghoulina said:

This wasn't the worst episode. I actually laughed quite a bit. Must of been because of minimal Vicki. She was there for Kelly with her breast reduction, reminding her of all her surgeries - including BRAIN (didn't work). And she was coughing over the phone with her rare form of influenza. And that was it. So nice. I hope you got a casserole out of it, Vicki!

Better yet, I really hope Megan did get her hospital records!!!

But that Shannon exercise segment? Best scene of the season! She is funny all on her own, without the drama. But is it wrong that I was hoping David was trolling her when he bought her that bike? 

When Megan came to visit Kelly, I think that was the first time I ever heard Kelly's mom's name. Bonnie? Nah. Gonna stick with Magda. 

Peggy is a real conundrum. I don't think there is anything shady to her mastectomy story. I just think she's having a hard time relaying it for some reason. Seems to me that she had the tests done, because of her family history. The genetic one came back negative, but a doctor did find a small patch of pre-cancerous cells. Comparing it to a pap isn't exactly fair. People need to take into consideration her family history. Do pre-cancerous cells always turn cancerous? NO. But if you have a STRONG family history of breast cancer, I can see why you'd take the strong preventative measure. It's not like Brooks. It's not like you remove your fucking breasts for fun! 

So they all need to let it rest. That being said, I didn't think MEGAN was out of line for asking. They were clearly bonding over the commonality of their situations and it was the next logical questions. Peggy goes on a reality show, with THIS being her story. Then gets all shitty when asked more about it. Nope. 

LOVED when Kelly asked, "Didn't you got to UCLA?" Why doesn't she know words????

I'm petty, but I thought it was kind of funny when Lydia called and they were all partying without her. 

Also, BALLS Voyage party is so tacky. Stop talking about his balls!!! They're not going anywhere. 

Is scrotox a real thing? Because I can't. 

I would give my right arm fo someone to buy me a Peloton bike! 

I think Peggy is trying to be Sophia Vergara's character on Modern Family. Chee chee Chong was very similar to baby Jesus (baby cheeses). Just stop it, Peggy. While I hate her weirdness about her diagnosis, it's a difficult time and at times you may not even know what is happening! You just roll with the punches. When people ask me questions, it's still hard to make them understand stage "0" or trying to get "clean lines", hell, I am not sure I even understand it and it happened to me.  She shouldn't be on this show right now for that reason alone, well that....and she's kind of an asshole. 

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54 minutes ago, Rubyslippahz said:

For being such a prim priss about so much- drag queens, breast implants--Lydia sure loves to guffaw about her husbands balls.   That must be all part of the biblical, Nobleman lifestyle. . ps Lydia always wear your hair down not up to distract from your creepy little face.  

What madness when Kelly seems cool!  Her surgeon was creepy with all his 'your husband will like this! Lucky guy!' crap.  

they showed Peggys doc saying she had preinvasive cancer.  So she chose a relatively drastic treatment in part because her moms death.   Her choice and not crazy.   Shame on Shannon for trying to stir up shit with that. 

Influenza B is a thing-- more rare than A but not as rare as C haha

I honestly think Shannon was confused because Peggy told her , on camera, that they did not find any cancer, then at the dinner she said they did find 3 mm of cancer. It is Peggy's changing stories that have cause the confusion (not doubt, just confusion), not Shannon trying to "stir up shit". LOL

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^^^And all of you may be right about Peggy. Who knows. I am not foreign, English is my first and only language, I've never had to learn another language before and I generally give people a pass on challenges I've never experienced, I guess. 

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I liked that Vicki gave it to Tamra and didn't back down. I think Vicki's the only one willing to see and acknowledge Tamra for what she is. And I like that Kelly doesn't bow down to Tamra, either. 

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@bagger and @JuliesMommy I agree. Both of my parents are from Nigeria. Neither of them have Peggy's issues with the English language. My eldest brother was raised in Nigeria until he was 6. His wife was raised there until 9 years old. Her family came to the states and settled in Florida. She's fluent in 3 languages. She's also a doctor. Peggy, in many ways, sounds like a person who learned English in a foreign country. I don't understand it. I understand that Armenian communities can be insular, but Peggy didn't go to school in an all Armenian school. She didn't get an English degree at an Armenian university. Teresa Giudice has problems with English too. She's also an imbecile. I'm not calling Peggy an imbecile too, buuuuuuuuuuuuut... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited September 27, 2017 by HunterHunted

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5 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

@bagger and @JuliesMommy I agree. Both of my parents are from Nigeria. Neither of them have Peggy's issues with the English language. My eldest brother was raised in Nigeria until he was 6. His wife was raised there until 9 years old. Her family came to the states and settled in Florida. She's fluent in 3 languages. She's also a doctor. Peggy, in many ways, sounds like a person who learned English in a foreign country. I don't understand it. I understand that Armenian communities can be insular, but Peggy didn't go to school in an all Armenian school. She didn't get an English degree at an Armenian university. Teresa Giudice has problems with English too. She's also an imbecile. I'm not calling Peggy an imbecile too, buuuuuuuuuuuuut... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And for whatever reason (probably cause im italian lol) Teresas horrible english doesn't seem to bother me as much as peggy. To me, tere's bad english comes more from her humorous personality... peggy lacks both!! English comprehension and personality lol