S16.E04: We're Sleeping Wear?

[Drogo]

It's the Heidi Klum Sleepwear Challenge, and the designers are invited to a slumber party on the roof of the Empire State Building. Demi Lovato joins as guest judge.

[mwell345]

Not even 10 minutes into the episode and already too much of the twins.

[Beaner]

Love how Margarita and Michael are best buds! They're happy, pleasant, supportive, and having fun!

[Nancypants]

WTF is with Aaron's see through bloomers?

[Nordly Beaumont]

Twins aside, I am really liking this season! I was cracking up over Kentaro using the word "anal" over and over to make Samantha laugh.

"You make me smile"

"You make me anal"

[backgroundnoise]

Michael's winning look is gorgeous. 

Kenya really dodged a bullet, seeing that she didn't even do a textile, but at least she knew it was bad.   Not so Deyante. 

I liked the challenge and most of the looks were pretty good and fit the challenge.

[Nidratime]

I was so waiting for Shawn to win and then the whole "cheating" thing to happen or be declared. I'm guessing the other designers are going to get fed up with the twins helping each other, but I don't know if that would be enough for Tim to be so angry and confrontational as we saw in spoiler previews. So, I'm wondering what else happens.

[rustyspigot]

I don't need to hear Shawn describe her inspiration for any garment ever again. Thanks. You aren't on Mt. Olympus summoning the Gods.

Anyway, Kentaro was my favorite, but you know they wouldn't mass produce that.

And a high waist thick elastic band is never your friend.

[dosodog]

Michaels was pretty, but the straps would bug me to no end trying to sleep. 

I would have bought Kentaro's.  

Heidi must have to pee a lot in the middle of the night.......

[Mindthinkr]

Is it me or is Amy doing well yet not getting a good edit or favorable commentary because they expect more out of her due to her background? Last week I loved her versatile outfit yet she is seemingly going without notice. 

[latetotheparty]

2 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Is it me or is Amy doing well yet not getting a good edit or favorable commentary because they expect more out of her due to her background? Last week I loved her versatile outfit yet she is seemingly going without notice. 

I've noticed that, too.  Also , Samantha has had really consistent strong work.  The jacket she designed this week was gorgeous.

16 minutes ago, dosodog said:

Michaels was pretty, but the straps would bug me to no end trying to sleep. 

I would have bought Kentaro's.  

Heidi must have to pee a lot in the middle of the night.......

Well, she had had several pregnancies... :)

[HunterHunted]

13 minutes ago, backgroundnoise said:

Michael's winning look is gorgeous. 

Kenya really dodged a bullet, seeing that she didn't even do a textile, but at least she knew it was bad.   Not so Deyante. 

I liked the challenge and most of the looks were pretty good and fit the challenge.

I was surprised at how not terrible most of the looks were. Kenya was lucky. She didn't make a print of any sort, but it goes back to the old adage "don't bore Nina." Deyonte made clothes. There was no design in that outfit and it certainly wasn't fashion.

Where I'm from, people don't wear see-through pants let alone bloomers out in the world.

[Nidratime]

I don't remember which designer designed the last look that came down the runway, but I really liked it and was shocked it wasn't in the top.

[Fostersmom]

Nina's face while Shawn was droning on was made of win. I'm not a huge Nina fan, but the look said it all. 

[latetotheparty]

8 minutes ago, Nidratime said:

I don't remember which designer designed the last look that came down the runway, but I really liked it and was shocked it wasn't in the top.

That was Samantha's.  Simply stunning.  Gimme,

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, Nancypants said:

WTF is with Aaron's see through bloomers?

He should have been sent home for wearing them.

[Nordly Beaumont]

14 minutes ago, Nidratime said:

I don't remember which designer designed the last look that came down the runway, but I really liked it and was shocked it wasn't in the top.

Samantha's blue and cream pants/cami/jacket - I agree, it should have been on top. I would have replaced Shawn's and not just because I don't like her. I thought her look was really pretty, actually. But it's been done. A lot. Samantha's had more originality and work in it.

I felt so sad when Kenya was trying not to cry. And then jealous because Kenya looks adorable when she's trying not to cry.

28 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Where I'm from, people don't wear see-through pants let alone bloomers out in the world.

Not even with a belt looped loosely around the neck?

Edited September 8, 2017 by Nordly Beaumont

[Aerobicidal]

Even more prestigious than the Official Pen of Project Runway is getting a Seal of approval from the Heidi Klum Intimates line. I would have expected a universal Seal of disapproval for such a brand.

"Things happen for a reason." I used to love Tim, but I think that talking Barbie that said "Math is hard" would provide more effective and erudite advice than what I saw tonight.

Aaron's runway outfit made me nostalgia for the subtlety and all-functionality of Jerrell's The Pied Piper of Castro Street look.

[Shannon L.]

Brandon looks like Allen Leech (Tom Branson on Downton Abbey) decided to go hipster.

I love Kentaro and Samantha. I really appreciate a mostly drama free season. It's one of the things I like most about Face Off.

Lots of pretty sleepwear pieces. I did like the color palate and the idea of Kenya's, except for the robe. Maybe if she had talked herself down from near panic mode she could have worked it out.

When are the going to learn that "mass produced" means beautiful but simple?

[Sew Sumi]

Yay Michael! Oaktown represent! 

Shawn, STFU!!!!! Claire, enough with the faces. They're already well past their expiration date, both in personality and talent. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Zac and Nina were very sweet to Kenya! 

[Brookside]

And on tonight's show, Tim demonstrates his lack of experience with the menstrual cycle.

[roctavia]

There were a lot of nice looks this week, and I actually mostly agree with the judges. I liked Kentaro's a lot, but the textile was too specialized to mass produce, but the winning look was stunning, and flattering and would work for a lot of body types. So it was a great choice for the win.

 

I liked Deyonte, but it was time for him to go home. his look was just blah.

The twin look wasn't bad, but it was kind of boring. I agree with others above that the cream/blue striped look (Samantha?) deserved to be in the top. It had actual design to it and looked fairly well made.

 

The twin stuff continues to be annoying, but I do tune out a lot of the work room stuff so it didn't bother me as much this week .

 

I'm glad Kenya didn't get auf'd I like her a lot, though her look was quite a miss this week.

[hoodooznoodooz]

But why was Nina wearing a feather boa?

[Dewey Decimate]

49 minutes ago, Brookside said:

And on tonight's show, Tim demonstrates his lack of experience with the menstrual cycle.

When Margarita showed him that perfectly nice pink-lilac-purple ombre fabric and he said it looked like a menstrual cycle... all I could think was "Tim, I know you're gay, but did you never have a health class? Do you think we erupt pastel glitter from our nether regions?"

Now Kentaro's original fabric creation... THAT was like an "I got my first period on St. Patrick's Day" nightmare. But his "I like diamond" comment was perfect and golden. So glad he did well, and his friendship with Samantha is sweet. I loved that she said "I like you!" instead of the ubiquitous and overused "love" (see: this sentence).

I liked, coincidentally, all of the blue-hued outfits tonight, but alas, none made it to the top three. And when the redheaded instructor was describing her black-on-gray/silver NYC skyline panties, I was like YES! I've been known to buy my undergarments from the 2/$12 bin at Kohl's (with an additional 20% off coupon, naturally), but would pay upwards of $25 for a low-rise bikini with that design!

Edited September 8, 2017 by Dewey Decimate

[GaT]

I can’t believe they made them walk around New York in their pajamas & what was the point of making them sleep at the Empire State Building?

WTH was Aaron wearing on the runway? He should have been auf’ed for those shorts alone.

Ayana was definitely my favorite, & I thought Samantha’s was the best for lounging.

Probably because I don’t sleep in pajamas, but looking at all the long & full length pants & gowns, I don’t know how anybody could sleep in all that material. It just looks so uncomfortable to me. I would never be able to sleep in Michael’s gown.

[millennium]

I think if I were taken to the top of the Empire State Building for inspiration to make sleepwear, I would design a long, flowing garment that hangs from the shoulder and tell the judges: "It's a muumuu." 

[Love2dance]

3 hours ago, Surrealist said:

He should have been sent home for wearing them.

You beat me to it. Disrespectful and distracting.

I don't know how the designers were able to work or concentrate at all after shivering all night in a hard sleeping bag in the wind. (If it was real. I have my doubts.)

[PhoneCop]

I've seen pants like Aaron's before. On Santa Monica Blvd. in West Hollywood on Halloween and other grownup-type parties.

Loved Michael's. Yeah, the straps were a little fussy, but they'll probably simplify those a bit for mass production anyway. I would've muted the pinks and yellows on Kentaro's, but otherwise really liked it as well. And fine, Shawn's was good too, but I agree that putting Samantha in third would've been a justified cockblocking of the twins from the top.

Glad Kenya survived—I've liked what she's put out to this point—but on top of the points the judges made, the hot pink cheapened the look big time.

[RedheadZombie]

I haven't finished the episode yet, but I had to come here to say I really dislike the inclusion of the models' opinions.  It's one thing when it's a "real woman" challenge, where the model is also the client.  But these are supposed professional models - their opinions mean zip.  Their job is to present the clothes in the best way they can, and whether they feel the look is flattering or comfortable is really irrelevant. 

[mamadrama]

I think Aaron is trying too hard to be "different." If he IS going to wear sheer shorts, though, then at least wear something besides tighty whities under them. (Just make sure it is something.)

[bobbyjoe]

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Nina's face while Shawn was droning on was made of win. I'm not a huge Nina fan, but the look said it all. 

The enemy of my enemy...

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I haven't finished the episode yet, but I had to come here to say I really dislike the inclusion of the models' opinions.  It's one thing when it's a "real woman" challenge, where the model is also the client.  But these are supposed professional models - their opinions mean zip. 

It also feels like more needless filler.  I know it's a pipe dream, but PR has needed to get back to a lean and mean hour-long run time for ages-- the producers should definitely watch Face Off and see how less can equal more.

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I don't know how the designers were able to work or concentrate at all after shivering all night in a hard sleeping bag in the wind. (If it was real. I have my doubts.)

If they really had to do that it seemed ridiculously cruel as it was obviously windy and uncomfortable up there.  It kind of reminds me of the scene in John Waters Polyester where the nuns force everyone to go on a hayride in a thunderstorm.  I like how Heidi and Tim said they wished they could join the sleepover.  A) Yeah, right and B) who's stoppin' ya?

[marsha]

1 hour ago, millennium said:

I think if I were taken to the top of the Empire State Building for inspiration to make sleepwear, I would design a long, flowing garment that hangs from the shoulder and tell the judges: "It's a muumuu." 

Lucy and Ethel as 'Women from Mars' is one of my favourite 'I Love Lucy' episdoes!

[AntManBee]

I sort of liked Aaron's shorts for the audacity of them.   Gretchen basically wore a sheer skirt and granny panties when she won.  [Not that that excuses either of them, but it seems odd that judges have a real problem when it is on a man, but are not bothered when it's worn by a woman.]

[Lizzing]

3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

But why was Nina wearing a feather boa?

What was that blue marabou abomination?  It kind of looked like cuffs, but I can't figure why anyone would put that color of feather cuffs on a black sweater with fire engine red trim.  I'm questioning Nina's taste level and lack of sophistication, yet again.

[Kit Kat]

I hate that this show is needlessly an 1 1/2 now because I always fall asleep with the last half hour left and then have to wait to get home from work on Friday to watch it. I wish they would cut the models talking to themselves in the mirror. Reading through everyone's comments, I see that neither twin was eliminated this week, but they're like one of those mythical creatures that only the head of Medusa would be able to get rid of, or they're like Vincent in S3, who lasted all the way to the trip to Paris. Neither have any talent from what I've seen so far and they're only sticking around for the schtick of having them on the show - annoying designers and viewers alike. 

[Aulty]

2 hours ago, AntManBee said:

I sort of liked Aaron's shorts for the audacity of them.   Gretchen basically wore a sheer skirt and granny panties when she won.  [Not that that excuses either of them, but it seems odd that judges have a real problem when it is on a man, but are not bothered when it's worn by a woman.]

I thought that he probably didn't know they would look that sheer on camera or in a highly lit workroom - I have a few blouses that look alright when I check myself in the mirror at home, but are a totally different story outside in bright daylight. I found it odd that the camera zoomed in on them so much.

I can't complain about this weeks episode, both the win and the auf were alright. Well done, Michael. Kentaros probably was too much work to mass produce it at a reasonably price (all that scalloping at the top) I would like to see more of Amy.  She showed good knowledge when she predicted that Aaron's fabric would be less flowy due to him printing most of it.

What are the odds on one twin being aufd in a team challenge where they are split up and unable to help each other design and sew?

[SuburbanHangSuite]

Oh my goodness, I was so worried tor Kenya.  She was just so flustered with this challenge from start to finish and her fighting back tears just about broke my heart.  Similarly with Deyonte wiping his tears and saying his Grandnma told him, "Boy, you'd better not cry!"  It's ok, Deyonte.  Go home and enjoy fatherhood.  And Kenya's model is gorgeous.

The twins helping each other is so much bullshit.  It almost seems as if they're deliberately daring the other designers to say something about the tag-teaming.

Instructor's (Amy?) garment looked like a floor length model of the cape I wear at the hair salon. 

I agree that Samantha should've been a top design.

Kentaro is love.

[mwell345]

9 hours ago, Nidratime said:

I was so waiting for Shawn to win and then the whole "cheating" thing to happen or be declared. I'm guessing the other designers are going to get fed up with the twins helping each other, but I don't know if that would be enough for Tim to be so angry and confrontational as we saw in spoiler previews. So, I'm wondering what else happens.

I'm thinking that the twins go beyond "helping" each other to the point where one either designs or creates a look for the other.   Honestly, is it so hard for PR to have  a rule that  family members cannot compete in the same season?  Casting both twins the same season, even though they work together, is asking for trouble.   The other designers are annoyed, and I don't blame them - "sew my top" "thread my needle" "help me with my top" - it's very close to collusion as it is. 

[Nancypants]

I'm. Super pissed that i actually liked what the twins sent down the Runway. Even more pissed that I liked Sinead O'conners look a lot. 

That being said,  WTF was with Sinead"s (carefully worded, already-rehearsed-in the- mirror and delivered with Great Theatrical Effect and Clipped DiK-Shun).. Oral Dissertation explanation that she have When asked to "Tell us about your Inspiration? "

#Pajamas by Shawn, served with a Side of Pretentious Word Salad

[Nidratime]

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I'm thinking that the twins go beyond "helping" each other to the point where one either designs or creates a look for the other.   Honestly, is it so hard for PR to have  a rule that  family members cannot compete in the same season?  Casting both twins the same season, even though they work together, is asking for trouble.   The other designers are annoyed, and I don't blame them - "sew my top" "thread my needle" "help me with my top" - it's very close to collusion as it is. 

Or, is it so hard for the twins to actually compete against each other?! We've had reality shows where siblings and other family members have gone up against each other and cut the other no slack at all. That's called respecting the other person's abilities enough to feel that they can hold their own and give *their* best against *your* best. The Voltaggio brothers did it on Top Chef and they cut each other no quarter, going practically head-to-head.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Nidratime

[steff13]

9 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Is it me or is Amy doing well yet not getting a good edit or favorable commentary because they expect more out of her due to her background? Last week I loved her versatile outfit yet she is seemingly going without notice. 

I thought Amy's outfit this week looked like the drape they put over you when you get your hair cut.

[poeticlicensed]

I thought most of them did well, and the ones on the bottom deserved to be there. That said, I wouldn't sleep in any of the outfits. Heidi is insane if she thinks that's what real humans wear to bed regularly. 

I continue to hate the twins to the point that I dvr the episode and ff through most of the work room stuff because I cannot listen to them. I am now in it for the episode where one of them gets aufed and the ensuing meltdown. 

Edited September 8, 2017 by poeticlicensed

[millennium]

13 minutes ago, steff13 said:

I thought Amy's outfit this week looked like the drape they put over you when you get your hair cut.

Nailed it.

[hoodooznoodooz]

11 hours ago, mwell345 said:

Not even 10 minutes into the episode and already too much of the twins.

I suppose we should be grateful that they aren't triplets. 

[Whimsy]

6 hours ago, PhoneCop said:

Loved Michael's. Yeah, the straps were a little fussy, but they'll probably simplify those a bit for mass production anyway.

Nope.  Looks exactly the same and it's $200. https://www.heidiklumintimates.com/deco-doll-slip-chemise

I personally sleep in soffee shorts or cropped yoga pants and an old, soft t-shirt.  I don't really get fancy, shiny, slippery sleepwear.  The few times I've tried to sleep in an actual nightgown, it bunched up around my waist and was so uncomfortable.

[millennium]

More annoying than the fact that the twins are doing each other's work is that they are so loud and public about it, as if everyone in the room needs a memo that Shawn will now be flossing Claire's ass (or whatever it is they do), along with the disruptive running-around-the-workroom-in-tandem routine.

Despite that they are basically the same person, I find Claire more tolerable than Shawn.   I really don't like Shawn at all.   It could be the shaved head and nose ring combination, which I find kinda gross, but she also seems doubly pretentious than Claire.  

[mwell345]

31 minutes ago, Nidratime said:

The Voltaggio brothers did it on Top Chef and they cut each other no quarter, going practically head-to-head.

True.  I forgot about the Voltaggio brothers. 

11 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

11 hours ago, mwell345 said:

Not even 10 minutes into the episode and already too much of the twins.

I suppose we should be grateful that they aren't triplets. 

There's probably a third one hiding behind the JC Penney Accessory Wall

[Empress1]

I liked Michael's but the middle strap would be uncomfortable. I don't like anything right near my neck when I sleep. The bright pink one that one of the twins created had a knot on the side of the top that would also bug me because I sleep on my side. I'm all for sexy sleepwear but it should also be comfortable. Simple straps are best for sleep, maybe a crossback. I loved Kentauro's and I loved that he sought counsel about how to fit a plus-sized model. I also liked Batani's.

I follow Deyonte on IG and some of his stuff really is gorgeous. I saw a white dress of his that I want right this minute. So I think he'll be OK. I'm glad Kenya stayed. I think she's one to watch, this outfit notwithstanding.

The twins are rapidly moving toward "mute whenever they speak" status.

[Miss Ruth]

56 minutes ago, Whimsy said:

Nope.  Looks exactly the same and it's $200. https://www.heidiklumintimates.com/deco-doll-slip-chemise

Not quite.  I don't see the silver detail on the sides, below the waist, on the front.

42 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

I follow Deyonte on IG

What is IG?