S09.E22: Reunion Part 3

[OnceSane]

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The reunion concludes when the housewives look back on their fun-filled trip to Mexico, from Lu’s tipsy topple to the tequila-drinking marathon. Tinsley and Sonja attempt to clear the air and salvage their friendship. However, the reunion takes a turn when Bethenny questions the sincerity of Ramona’s tearful apology. In the hot seat, Ramona is forced to address the accusations she made against Bethenny this season.

[KungFuBunny]

Aw man....I don't want this season to be over.

[KungFuBunny]

I had totally forgot the details in the scene of Tinsley Sonja facials.

Sonja said Harry was her boyfriend 30 years ago.

Didn't Sonja also claim he was her fiancee who gave her an engagement ring? That was not "30" years ago

[hoodooznoodooz]

I really hope someone asks Ramona why sex on a waterbed is so offensive or scandalous to her. 

[Neurochick]

Dear Bethenny, you're disgusting and nobody likes you, so do another Bravo TV show, "Bethenny Getting Stalked" or something like that; it'll be a ratings smash.  In bad taste?  Sure, but so was peeing on a stick on Real Housewives of NYC years ago.

Ramona is a nutcase, but she was 100% right about Nasty Bethenny.  Still haven't forgotten the shit Bethenny said to Luann.

In ten years SkinnyGirl will be selling for $1 in K-Mart.

Edited August 31, 2017 by Neurochick

[chick binewski]

Ramona's an idiot but Bethenny lecturing on what happiness looks like on someone's face is a bit much.

[hoodooznoodooz]

11 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I had totally forgot the details in the scene of Tinsley Sonja facials.

Sonja said Harry was her boyfriend 30 years ago.

Didn't Sonja also claim he was her fiancee who gave her an engagement ring? That was not "30" years ago

I should remember this better because I watched it two nights ago, but I am pretty sure Sonja tells other housewives (this is during Aviva's first season) that she and Harry dated before she married Morgan.

Then much more recently there was that ruse. Sonja claims Harry wants to take their relationship to the next level. He gives her a piece of jewelry, etc.

Edited August 31, 2017 by hoodooznoodooz

[Straycat80]

Ramona is really getting raked over the coals but she's handling it pretty well. 

Edited August 31, 2017 by Straycat80

[crgirl412]

Why didn't any of you tell me that it started at 8 pm EST not 9 EST!!!!

[chick binewski]

3 minutes ago, crgirl412 said:

Why didn't any of you tell me that it started at 8 pm EST not 9 EST!!!!

I know. Bravo sucks - they did this to me last week and worst of all they do this for JAX & BRITTANY.

[nexxie]

Bethenny gets so bored when the discussion is not about her - often motioning with her hands for people to hurry and get on with it (back to her).

[Wendy]

17 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

In ten years SkinnyGirl will be selling for $1 in K-Mart.

 

After this year it doesn't matter anymore, her commitment to BEAM is almost done and she already made her money hands full. 

[Straycat80]

Not gonna lie, watching these scenes of the Mexico trip is making me laugh like a loon!

And no one puked on that trip, these bitches are my heroes. Lol! 

Edited August 31, 2017 by Straycat80

[Wendy]

"I took a tumble on the garden" 

LMAO

Nobody embellishes like Luann 

[WhoaWhoKnew]

So many moments this year that will never not be funny.

Cliiiip! Cliiiiiip! Cliiiiiiip!

Bethenny spreading her legs dramatically after Ramona starts listing her alleged sexual escapades

Ramona's drunken confusion, "We're not allowed to have an altercation?!"

Sitting in a room full of smoke and apparently not knowing it

The insane 30 minute room fiasco

Dorinda threatening to throw Ramona's shit in the pool if she didn't straighten up

Luann falling down TWICE

Ramona calmly explaining why Luann fell and why she wasn't going to

Dorinda on the rope swing

Dorinda stabbing herself and nonchalantly acknowledging it

The Palm Beach dig that shut Luann down FAST

Hey OC, ATL, BH, DALLAS, NJ,  THIS IS HOW A HOUSEWIVES SEASON IS DONE!

Edited August 31, 2017 by WhoaWhoKnew

[chick binewski]

So Bethenny can comment on every action of every housewife but when the tables are turned she's being psychoanalyzed and she's sensitive. The trip was to make her money,  that's the only reason she spent actual time with the rest of the cast and Dorinda was drunk enough to say something about it.  

[crgirl412]

20 minutes ago, chick binewski said:

I know. Bravo sucks - they did this to me last week and worst of all they do this for JAX & BRITTANY.

I CANNOT with Jax and anybody.  I wonder why they seem to have a higher Q Rating with TPTB at Bravo??

[Wendy]

This is why this franchise is the best IMO

These women have true chemistry (whether good or bad) and can enjoy themselves and have fun regardless of their conflicts and drama. 

They leave the drama for another time and just have authentic fun and it translates on screen

[Straycat80]

This was the best season ever. These women fight and maybe are not friends when the cameras stop filming but when they are on they are funny and entertaining. 

My rose: the Mexico trip.

My thorn: Ramona being an asshole to the staff in Mexico.

Don't forget Luann is on WWHL  next Wednesday to talk about Tom and the divorce. 

[Wendy]

Luann missed the only chance she had to be honest 

"My thorn, my marriage to Tom" 

"My thorn, I am getting divorced" 

 

I can't even imagine the other HWs faces if Luann would have dropped that little bomb right there. 

[zoeysmom]

29 minutes ago, Wendy said:

After this year it doesn't matter anymore, her commitment to BEAM is almost done and she already made her money hands full. 

Beam owns Skinnygirl cocktails for all of time.  Whether Bethenny is their promo person (which she really isn't) is up to Beam.  Skinnygirl can't do cocktail with anyone else without a buy out.  Bethenny can say it is a licensing agreement but it really isn't. 

[ryebread]

49 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I really hope someone asks Ramona why sex on a waterbed is so offensive or scandalous to her. 

I think she was offended by Bethenny having sex on a waterbed in a raunchy, low budget, soft porn movie.  It is kind of gross.

[SweetieDarling]

I don't think I've ever seen a reunion where the entire cast was laughing together at themselves.  Screaming at each other simultaneously, yes, but laughing and enjoying themselves like that has got to be a reunion first.

[ryebread]

5 minutes ago, Wendy said:

I can't even imagine the other HWs faces if Luann would have dropped that little bomb right there. 

Can you imagine OUR faces?  Laptops would have been flying open all across the land.

[Cherrio]

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

Dear Bethenny, you're disgusting and nobody likes you

Said it last week, say it again.

I like Bethenny and I always have.

That said, I found part 3 to be a bit boring.

  The good parts were Bethenny and her wit as always and Ramona owning up to her behavior. Tinsley is honest and owns up too.

 The rest is Sonja and Luann lying about everything as usual and I wish they would be axed.

Carole is neutral as always. No big drama, kind of nothingness.

Edited August 31, 2017 by Cherrio

[jaybird2]

37 minutes ago, crgirl412 said:

I CANNOT with Jax and anybody.  I wonder why they seem to have a higher Q Rating with TPTB at Bravo??

only because bravo is trying to make us watch j&t

[Celia Rubenstein]

gosh, if this thread is any indication, this installment of the reunion must have been a real snooze!

[HunterHunted]

4 hours ago, ryebread said:

I think she was offended by Bethenny having sex on a waterbed in a raunchy, low budget, soft porn movie.  It is kind of gross.

People describe it as soft porn, but everything I've read about it makes it seem like it's just a movie where she shows her boobs and has a fairly tame sex scene. Scheana from Vanderpump Rules did actual soft porn because she's hella naked in the films. Camille Grammer did soft porn starring actual porn stars. Soft porn like actual real porn has the thinnest veil of plot holding together sex scenes. Whereas Bethenny's movie has an actual plot with, I think, a single sex scene.

Regardless of what I think about Bethenny, Ramona was bitter, nasty, and spiteful this entire season. Bethenny was not wrong about that. Ramona was letting her sadness poison nearly every interaction she had on camera. It was not pretty. Ramona does not come from a place of kindness. Never has and never will.

Also Ramona apparently pronounces Bahamas as Bee-hamas.

If all of Sonja's bitching at and about Tinsley was Sonja holding Tinsley accountable to what she said her goals were, you would think Sonja could have actually mentioned that once. Sonja kind of implied it when she was bitching about Tinsley dating 23 year old Chad. However, there was nothing motherly about telling Tinsley that Connor couldn't accept Tinsley's packages. Though Tinsley could have bought flowers for Sonja's birthday.

Edited August 31, 2017 by HunterHunted

[njbchlover]

I didn't get the whole Tinsley and anal sex conversation.  Tinsley claimed "she was trying to be an adult and have an adult conversation" (or something to that effect).  Ummm--last I checked, a 42 year old is more than an adult - you're a friggin' near middle-aged woman!!  I seriously think that Tinsley does have some type of arrested development.  There were also comments from Sonja and regarding Sonja mothering Tinsley.  I get that we all mother certain people at times, but Sonja and Tinsley are only ELEVEN years apart...yet, everyone on the couches seems to buy into the "Tinsley as a young socialite gone bad" story.  Just because someone acts like a teenager doesn't make it so.

[Lemons]

1 hour ago, ryebread said:

I think she was offended by Bethenny having sex on a waterbed in a raunchy, low budget, soft porn movie.  It is kind of gross.

I used to think being offended meant someone said something to you that was unpleasant or someone did something to you. Now all it takes is someone does something that you don't agree with, something that is none of your business and doesn't affect you whatsoever. 

And if that movie was porn then so are 3/4s of R rated movies. And Hollywood is full of porn stars who have been mistaken for actresses. 

[HunterHunted]

13 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I didn't get the whole Tinsley and anal sex conversation.  Tinsley claimed "she was trying to be an adult and have an adult conversation" (or something to that effect).  Ummm--last I checked, a 42 year old is more than an adult - you're a friggin' near middle-aged woman!!  I seriously think that Tinsley does have some type of arrested development.  There were also comments from Sonja and regarding Sonja mothering Tinsley.  I get that we all mother certain people at times, but Sonja and Tinsley are only ELEVEN years apart...yet, everyone on the couches seems to buy into the "Tinsley as a young socialite gone bad" story.  Just because someone acts like a teenager doesn't make it so.

Not that I listen to everything he says, but Dr. Drew says that celebrities get stuck at the emotional age when they first became famous. That is incredibly true of Tinsley.

[biakbiak]

5 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Not that I listen to everything he says, but Dr. Drew says that celebrities get stuck at the emotional age when they first became famous. That is incredibly true of Tinsley.

Tinsley didn't become "famous" until her early 30s. 

[njbchlover]

6 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Not that I listen to everything he says, but Dr. Drew says that celebrities get stuck at the emotional age when they first became famous. That is incredibly true of Tinsley.

 

1 minute ago, biakbiak said:

Tinsley didn't become "famous" until her early 30s. 

I think Tinsley is still stuck at the age when she and Topper first married - wasn't that 19?  That's the way she seems to portray herself. 

[Mindthinkr]

The best questions that Andy asks are the ones provided to him by us, the viewers. 

So much of them talking over each other, it gets hard for me to hear everything. 

[noveltylibrary65]

Yes this all was very feel good, it just didn't warrant 3 parts.

[tribeca]

I doubt Kmart will be open in five years   I did see her popcorn at Walmart. 

Thought they could not bring any phones or props?   Ramona had her texts ready to go just in case.  Not sure why Sonja was trying to take it away.  

Why is it if someone doesn't like something it's jealousy?   Totally get why the ladies are tired of skinny girl crap.  I only watch the show once a week and I am tired of it.   

  Bethany acted very strange when they showed the clip of her crying JMHO.  

[bagger]

Lu's reaction to Ramona saying she came from a place of kindness was priceless.

[biakbiak]

6 minutes ago, tribeca said:

Thought they could not bring any phones or props?   Ramona had her texts ready to go just in case.  Not sure why Sonja was trying to take it away.  

Since when has that been the case? They frequently do thus across franchises.

[chewycandy]

8 minutes ago, tribeca said:

Bethany acted very strange when they showed the clip of her crying JMHO.  

She was probably trying to distract from her ugly crying. Lol

i love Sonja's reactions. Her laugh is so genuine. 

[tribeca]

1 minute ago, biakbiak said:

Since when has that been the case? They frequently do thus across franchises.

Some thing happened on the Altanta reunion one year and I thought I remember an entertainment type show mentioning it.     I could be wrong.  I only watch NY and sometimes NJ   

[schmickschmack]

Yeah, it was boring, but Bethenny gave me a line I will use now and forever: "I'm not taking 'what to say' lessons from you."

[HunterHunted]

34 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Tinsley didn't become "famous" until her early 30s. 

I'd disagree slightly. She was already famous enough in New York social circles to be the inspiration for a character in the Plum Sykes novel the Debutante Divorce published in 2005. She stopped working in 2002 and began going about being a Socialite with a capital S. So she was already fairly famous in her late 20s. She became breakthrough famous in her 30s.

[Lizzing]

I'm kinda bummed that, although promised in the first reunion description put out by Bravo, we never got a discussion of Tipsy Girl.  But I'm forever grateful for more replays of Luann falling in the bushes.  I just need a mash up of her falling in the bushes and the nearly falling off the camel...it would be like video Prozac.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Wait. Did Sonja have anal sex with the pirate or not? She says, "Carole said that. I never said that." They talk about the nice letter Carole wrote, apologizing. But then Carole says, "You told me that you had had anal sex with the pirate."

[HunterHunted]

19 minutes ago, tribeca said:

Some thing happened on the Altanta reunion one year and I thought I remember an entertainment type show mentioning it.     I could be wrong.  I only watch NY and sometimes NJ   

It was Atlanta. Kenya brought a megaphone, a sceptre, and a fan. Kenya was responding to Porsha with the megaphone.

[Celia Rubenstein]

29 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

i love Sonja's reactions. Her laugh is so genuine. 

So true!  For all her phony pretentiousness, Sonja is still so authentic.

I couldn't believe how she sat there shaking her head like Mister Ed when Bethenny was telling Ramona what a hateful twat she is.  I thought they were "friends." 

Not that I disagree with Sonja. I just found her visual affirmation of everything Bethenny was saying surprising.

[escatefromny]

Andy really annoyed me tonight with his half-assed hosting.  Assuming it was filmed in order, I'd imagine he was exhausted, but I wish he would have:

Addressed Dorinda's slurring and 0 to 60 ragefests or her chronic "forgetfulness" this season.  I know he couldn't just come out and ask if she is a raging alcoholic, what drugs she does or why she's such a nasty drunk but there was plenty of material for a montage of Dorinda's sloppy behavior which could have been addressed.  I feel like she got a pass;

Pressed Bethany on the viewer's question about her tirade against Luann in the context of Ramona's tirade against her.  (I don't know why Luann came to her rescue by framing it in terms of the "using the children");

Dug much deeper on Sonja and the Page 6 story; and generally just have done a better job with getting answers before moving on.

Also, Ramona is horrible to the core.  She weaves an insult into everything she says.  "I'm happy for Bethany's success.  *I* was self made and independent at 30, she was 37. I'm happy for her".

Leave it to Bethany to close out a relatively civil Reunion on a unnecessarily vulgar note.  For all her contrivances and effort in trying to be quotable or coin a catch phrase, she is the least successful of the bunch at it.  Dorinda doesn't even try and probably has a great side business with her merchandise stamped with her quotes.  She makes it nice,  Bethany just sounds like an inept child seeking attention with her inappropriate vulgarity.

[DelicateDee]

Bethany and Carol actually have the same hair. It's just that Bethany's is parted on the side and Carol's a little more to the middle and they have different colors, but it's basically the same style of hair.

I felt bad for Tinsley when they were talking about her sex life with her ex-husband. She obviously didn't want to go over that again and I think she was embarrassed a little bit. Apparently her ex-husband gave her a lot of crap for it.  

Please ladies in the future let's leave the details of one's personal sex life just that, personal. Thank you.

[DelicateDee]

5 minutes ago, escatefromny said:

Andy really annoyed me tonight with his half-assed hosting.  Assuming it was filmed in order, I'd imagine he was exhausted, but I wish he would have:

Addressed Dorinda's slurring and 0 to 60 ragefests or her chronic "forgetfulness" this season.  I know he couldn't just come out and ask if she is a raging alcoholic, what drugs she does or why she's such a nasty drunk but there was plenty of material for a montage of Dorinda's sloppy behavior which could have been addressed.  I feel like she got a pass;

Pressed Bethany on the viewer's question about her tirade against Luann in the context of Ramona's tirade against her.  (I don't know why Luann came to her rescue by framing it in terms of the "using the children");

Dug much deeper on Sonja and the Page 6 story; and generally just have done a better job with getting answers before moving on.

Also, Ramona is horrible to the core.  She weaves an insult into everything she says.  "I'm happy for Bethany's success.  *I* was self made and independent at 30, she was 37. I'm happy for her".

Leave it to Bethany to close out a relatively civil Reunion on a unnecessarily vulgar note.  For all her contrivances and effort in trying to be quotable or coin a catch phrase, she is the least successful of the bunch at it.  Dorinda doesn't even try and probably has a great side business with her merchandise stamped with her quotes.  She makes it nice,  Bethany just sounds like an inept child seeking attention with her inappropriate vulgarity.

I must of missed it.  What vulgar not did she close out with?

[HunterHunted]

9 minutes ago, escatefromny said:

Also, Ramona is horrible to the core.  She weaves an insult into everything she says.  "I'm happy for Bethany's success.  *I* was self made and independent at 30, she was 37. I'm happy for her".

36 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I couldn't believe how she sat there shaking her head like Mister Ed when Bethenny was telling Ramona what a hateful twat she is.  I thought they were "friends." 

Not that I disagree with Sonja. I just found her visual affirmation of everything Bethenny was saying surprising.

 

This right there is the reason why Sonja was shaking her head in support.

Sonja's homeless Irish blogger from a couple of seasons ago did a Reddit AMA and talked about how Ramona when they filmed at Sonja's house would go around rearranging things at Sonja's house to make things look more chaotic than they actually were. She said that if Sonja's medications and supplements were on the counter, Ramona would move them around so that the prescriptions were in the front in case the camera caught a shot of them to imply that Sonja had a pill problem. Ramona would throw Sonja's clothes around. I doubt that Ramona ever admitted her motives, but the homeless Irish blogger was there when Sonja had a ton of interns. It seemed like the interns felt like Ramona was a pretty shady friend. The AMA was up for awhile until Ramona got wind of it. Sonja asked the former intern to delete it. She did.

56 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Wait. Did Sonja have anal sex with the pirate or not? She says, "Carole said that. I never said that." They talk about the nice letter Carole wrote, apologizing. But then Carole says, "You told me that you had had anal sex with the pirate."

Carole said "You told me you had sex...in the butt...with the pirate."