Stews and News: Below Deck Med in the Media

[snarts]

The article refers to her past behavior with the charter guest.  She just bought & moved into a house with her boyfriend.  Will wait & see on the accuracy of Page Six reporting, we've been mislead before.

Edited June 3, 2020 by snarts
I can spell

[jmcd44]

Well-how is this going to play out the rest of the season? 

 

 

[dleighg]

It seems strangely difficult to find out what he posted. I know they don't want to amplify bad messages, but I'm curious. Any clues?

[biakbiak]

In another statement it said they would try to limit him In the back half of the season.

[dleighg]

I'm curious as to how they "fire" someone when the show has been filmed. I know nothing about how this all works, but don't they get paid for the episodes they filmed? Or is it actually by the minute they appear on TV?

[biakbiak]

40 minutes ago, dleighg said:

It seems strangely difficult to find out what he posted. I know they don't want to amplify bad messages, but I'm curious. Any clues?

It was disgusting, I won’t post the image and will spoiler the description for those that don’t want to be exposed:

 

a naked black women in bondage hanging from the ceiling with a look of terror. With the caption “when black men have been doin you wrong your whole life and you decide to date the nice Caucasian guy Pete from Whole Foods.”

Edited June 17, 2020 by biakbiak

[dleighg]

3 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

It was disgusting,

I can't even..... Man. Thank you, I guess. But seriously thank you for not posting the photo.

[scrb]

You wonder if the casting people on these shows bother to look at the social media history of these people.

Will they do so in the future?

[biakbiak]

3 hours ago, scrb said:

You wonder if the casting people on these shows bother to look at the social media history of these people.

Will they do so in the future?

This post was from April (and reposted 2 days ago) of this year but I can’t imagine he didn’t have other equal vile stuff.

MTV has announced that they are having a third party go through all of their people’s social media for offensive things. Of course announcing it allows people to scrub their shit, which I am honestly surprised so few people do. So maybe Bravo will follow suit.

Edited June 17, 2020 by biakbiak

[The Ringo Kidd]

So wait a minute. They are going through people’s social media to find things to cancel them?

Is that what it’s come too?

[Rhetorica]

 

 

Bravo: Peter Hunziker Has Been Terminated from Below Deck Mediterranean.
https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/peter-hunziker-terminated-below-deck-mediterranean

Edited June 17, 2020 by Rhetorica
Sorry, I didn't see the post above

[The Ringo Kidd]

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party?

[biakbiak]

3 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party?

He was an employee of Bravo and 51 Minds when he posted his racist garbage. They don’t want someone like him representing them. 

[The Ringo Kidd]

Burn the witch! 

 

Edited June 17, 2020 by The Ringo Kidd

[scrb]

1 hour ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

So wait a minute. They are going through people’s social media to find things to cancel them?

Is that what it’s come too?

 

1 hour ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party?

They were getting a lot of pressure, at least on social media.

Several networks have already fired reality show cast members for tweets and most of the ones fired are apologizing or not protesting too much about it.

If Bravo left the people with those posts on the air, the pressure would probably build, with talk of boycotts and such.

 

I think to an extent, #MeToo set the precedent, as people with sexual harassment or assault in their pasts were fired.

Call it cancel culture or whatever but fame and fortune isn't guaranteed now if you've behaved badly.

BTW, racist posts on social media equate to being politically persecuted by McCarthyites?

 

[The Ringo Kidd]

1 minute ago, scrb said:

 

BTW, racist posts on social media equate to being politically persecuted by McCarthyites?

 

Yes they equate exactly. Pernicious or even illegal views that were held in your past that you might renounce and recant lead you to be fired, blacklisted and unemployed.

I suppose they can go to a re-education camp and do a penance but somehow I don’t think that is enough for the mob at this point.

The movie studios gave the same excuse during the communist frenzy.

Stassi is in fact the new Dalton Trumbo.

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Yes they equate exactly. Pernicious or even illegal views that were held in your past that you might renounce and recant lead you to be fired, blacklisted and unemployed.

He posted it in April and reposted it 2 days ago so it was not in his past but during his employment.

[The Ringo Kidd]

I thought they are going through people’s social media to find things that they can use to destroy their careers.

I hold no particular brief for Pete. It is the climate and the frenzy that is pernicious and wrong.

[chenoa333]

5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

It was disgusting, I won’t post the image and will spoiler the description for those that don’t want to be exposed:

  Reveal spoiler

a naked black women in bondage hanging from the ceiling with a look of terror. With the caption “when black men have been doin you wrong your whole life and you decide to date the nice Caucasian guy Pete from Whole Foods.”

There really is no emogee to express the vileness of that guys post. 

[Neurochick]

4 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

So wait a minute. They are going through people’s social media to find things to cancel them?

Is that what it’s come too?

Don't companies look through a person's social media to see if they should hire them.

Peter was a sleaze anyway.  I think he was the one who called his boss "sweetheart" or something like that.  What a creep.

He needs something.  Anybody who's post something like that probably doesn't see black women, black people as human beings, because why would you post something like that, as an adult?

From what I've seen of him in the show, he doesn't see women as human beings either. 

Edited June 17, 2020 by Neurochick

[Fostersmom]

Well, he's either finally wised up, or someone clued him in. When this first broke today, his Facebook was not only still up, it was public. It's since either been shut down, or he's made it not only private, but also changed the pic to a generic blank face. It was his Tigger looking self and his son when I saw it earlier. From the general skimming I did, he was hung up on the stock market and there was a recent post that seemed to be dogging women, or at least one, who apparently didn't see the wonder that is Pete. Honestly, the post was a hot mess and I wasn't sure what I was reading, but the comments from his friends basically were asking who turned him down and told him to post their names so they could go after her/them. I was surprised there wasn't any recent posts about Below Deck, there were a few from before it started, including a super classy one of a picture of him and Hannah that he captioned she could be the six6 and he could be the nine9. So honestly his firing should really come as a surprise to no one, least of all him. 

[Thumper82003]

11 hours ago, dleighg said:

I'm curious as to how they "fire" someone when the show has been filmed. I know nothing about how this all works, but don't they get paid for the episodes they filmed? Or is it actually by the minute they appear on TV?

Other networks pay x amount per show. If they aren’t shown, they don’t get paid. So editing him out, he doesn’t get a check. They usually have a morals clause that allow them to fire them for cause. That picture was cause for sure.

[dleighg]

7 hours ago, Fostersmom said:

he captioned she could be the six6 and he could be the nine9.

It went by really quickly and I was only half paying attention, but didn't he say something (probably about Lara) on the most recent episode?

[Jsage]

I support Bravo not wanting to continue to work with him anymore. Don't invite him to the reunion, fine. But I can't believing their editing future episodes to reduce his time on screen. Counting deck crew, stews, chef and captain, there are only 9 people on the show full time. I feel like editing him out is going to mean leaving major storylines out.  

[RoxiP]

Well, RuPaul's Drag Race managed to do a good job of minimizing Sherrie Pie's appearances this season - she wasn't edited out but she her screen time was limited to the greatest extent possible...and she would have been a finalist.

[scrb]

There are 4 cast members in the deck crew instead of the usual 3 so it should be okay.

But they were giving him a lot of camera time in the first couple of episodes of the season with his "sweetie" thing and pursuing "Lana" whats her last name.

Otherwise the guy didn't have much charisma, unless being a douche bro counts as charisma.

You never know with Bravo.

 

 

 

[spunky]

On 6/17/2020 at 1:04 PM, biakbiak said:

It was disgusting, I won’t post the image and will spoiler the description for those that don’t want to be exposed:

  Reveal spoiler

a naked black women in bondage hanging from the ceiling with a look of terror. With the caption “when black men have been doin you wrong your whole life and you decide to date the nice Caucasian guy Pete from Whole Foods.”

Thank you for not posting that disgusting photo. I heard he was trying to defend himself, by saying he dates different races and likes BDSM. How is a photo of a naked black woman in shackles reminiscent to slavery acceptable to look at much less post or find sexually appealing? 

[geauxaway]

He’s fucking disgusting and I’m having a really hard time watching scenes with him in them.  Which is unfortunate because now that Lara is gone, I am really liking the current crew (minus this piece of garbage) and was looking forward to this season. 

[biakbiak]

3 hours ago, scrb said:

There are 4 cast members in the deck crew instead of the usual 3 so it should be okay.

There are typically 4, BD sailing yacht had three but the others have had 4.

[nytonc]

I’m not surprised this idiot posted something reprehensible and racist. One only needs to watch him for 3 mins in the first episode to recognize he’s not far removed from his Neanderthal ancestors. The stupidity comes thru loud and clear! 

[The Ringo Kidd]

If Bugsy comes back will Hannah try to kill her?

That might be the reason she gets fired.

[Thumper82003]

On 6/17/2020 at 3:03 PM, The Ringo Kidd said:

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party?

All employers now have either contracts or formal guidelines spelling out that they can hire/fire at will, or for a morals clause. Yes, moral & Bravo seem to be contradictory. But anything they get flack from, or effects their bottom line, they can use that clause.

Many employers or even schools are looking at the employee/student online history, using it to exclude people. That “joke” from 10 years ago might just bite you. Even cleaned up, computer geeks can restore. 

[The Ringo Kidd]

50 minutes ago, Thumper82003 said:

All employers now have either contracts or formal guidelines spelling out that they can hire/fire at will, or for a morals clause. Yes, moral & Bravo seem to be contradictory. But anything they get flack from, or effects their bottom line, they can use that clause.

Many employers or even schools are looking at the employee/student online history, using it to exclude people. That “joke” from 10 years ago might just bite you. Even cleaned up, computer geeks can restore. 

So what?

Pete is a bad example because his transgressions are so recent.

But searching through someone’s past writing or even their beliefs that they now renounce is the essence of McCarthyism.

[dleighg]

9 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

But searching through someone’s past writing or even their beliefs that they now renounce is the essence of McCarthyism.

when did he "renounce"? I think the really awful post was from April-- which I believe was after the series was filmed? Or at least roughly the same time.

[The Ringo Kidd]

I said Pete is not an example of this. His transgressions are too recent to be excused as youthful stupidity. Other recent firings not so much.
 

I don’t excuse him in the least. 
 

It is the frenzy to destroy other people’s careers that is the problem.

 

[snarts]

Sandy can't keep her mouth shut.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1156729/captain-sandy-teases-drug-bust-more-on-explosive-new-season-of-below-deck-mediterranean

Spoiler

So what I'm piecing together is that now that has Bugsy on board, she fires Hannah due to non-logged prescription drugs. Which, IMHO, is weak sauce since we all know Hannah suufers from anxiety (see season 3) and we've seen how other Captains have handled their crews prescription meds (see Kat/Captain Lee season 1). 

I'd bet money Sandy told Bugsy if she came back as a 2nd she'd get her the Chief spot. Shady as fuck. And she wonders why Hannah doesn't trust her or interact with her on social media. 

 

[Fostersmom]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

Sandy can't keep her mouth shut.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1156729/captain-sandy-teases-drug-bust-more-on-explosive-new-season-of-below-deck-mediterranean

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So what I'm piecing together is that now that has Bugsy on board, she fires Hannah due to non-logged prescription drugs. Which, IMHO, is weak sauce since we all know Hannah suufers from anxiety (see season 3) and we've seen how other Captains have handled their crews prescription meds (see Kat/Captain Lee season 1). 

I'd bet money Sandy told Bugsy if she came back as a 2nd she'd get her the Chief spot. Shady as fuck. And she wonders why Hannah doesn't trust her or interact with her on social media. 

 

That’s shady was hell if that’s what goes down. As if I didn’t hate captain famewhore enough. 

[scrb]

I'm still not convinced that the captains make the casting decisions on these shows.

Sandy might be allowed to have a say but pretty sure it would have been the producers whowould have decided Bugs was coming back, because it gives them a story line based on the previous season with Hanna and Bugs.

 

[snarts]

While I agree that the producers ultimately decided to let Bugsy come back, it was for a 2nd stew role, which makes me wonder why Bugs would return for a 2nd stew role years later??

Spoiler

Sandy is already out in the press trying to sell her story. First on why she didn't fire Lara, 
(Hannah didn't tell he) which we saw was a lie, and now with the "drug bust".  Sandy knows from season 3 that Hannah suffers from anxiety and is prescribed medication.  If she uses the non-logging of these meds as a reason to fire Hannah, she forces the producers hands. That's what I think she does, and I think Bugsy & Malia were in on the plan. 

We'll see what happens as the season plays out. Sandy overestimates her own value to the franchise, not sure that public sentiment will be on her side.

 

[dosodog]

Spoiler

Hannah has been in yachting long enough that she should know she has to check any meds in with her employer.  IF that's why she gets fired, that's on her.

 

[snarts]

Spoiler

Except that we had a similar scenario on season 1 of BD with Kat & Captain Lee and the correct way to handle it.

I get that you & Sandy hate Hannah, but if that's how it plays out, it's messed up. Not to mention the wrong message to send re: mental health issues in the workplace.

Now if Hannah's vaught snorting hydrocodone, that's another story...

 

Edited June 23, 2020 by snarts

[dosodog]

Spoiler

I do not recall what happened with Captain Lee.  How was it handled correctly?  Hannah has lied to Sandy at least twice now--hooking up with a guest on charter and the "one coke" incident.  If she has pills that she was supposed to declare and she didn't, that is on Hannah.  And the perhaps the last of "second chances".

And if it's on Sandy, not Hannah, why didn't production step in and stop her from being fired.

I'm not sure if it's hate.  Maybe more disdain for a snotty, lazy, egotistical, condescending supervisor. 

 

[The Ringo Kidd]

Spoiler

Didn’t Sandy want to get with Hannah in their first season  and Hannah turned it down flat? That’s where all the animosity started.

There are several different theories.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

On 6/19/2020 at 8:15 PM, The Ringo Kidd said:

So what?

Pete is a bad example because his transgressions are so recent.

But searching through someone’s past writing or even their beliefs that they now renounce is the essence of McCarthyism.

You of course realize that there is a material difference between a United States Senator bringing the full weight of the United States government against individuals doing something that they constitutionally had a right to do - organize politically (much as I don't agree with communism, the communist party has a right to exist) - vs. employers deciding that someone's public statements are either repugnant to them or too much of a headache to handle?  I mean, the "government holding hearings and threatening people" is kind of a huge part of McCarthyism that you are just glossing right over. 

[The Ringo Kidd]

22 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

You of course realize that there is a material difference between a United States Senator bringing the full weight of the United States government against individuals doing something that they constitutionally had a right to do - organize politically (much as I don't agree with communism, the communist party has a right to exist) - vs. employers deciding that someone's public statements are either repugnant to them or too much of a headache to handle?  I mean, the "government holding hearings and threatening people" is kind of a huge part of McCarthyism that you are just glossing right over. 

It is destroying someone because of what they said in the past and now claim to not believe anymore. They are very analogous situations.

Many victims of McCarthyism were not called up in front of a government committee. They were blacklisted by the powers that be in the entertainment industry.

The other thing that is the same is the absolute  glee that they feel in destroying people’s lives.

[biakbiak]

More spoilers abound:

Spoiler

When Hannah is fired Aesha comes and takes the second stew position after Bugsy is made Chief stew and Kiko leaves at some point and is replaced by Malia’s boyfriend Tom.

 

Edited June 27, 2020 by biakbiak

[scrb]

14 hours ago, biakbiak said:

More spoilers abound:

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When Hannah is fired Aesha comes and takes the second stew position after Bugsy is made Chief stew and Kiko leaves at some point and is replaced by Malia’s boyfriend Tom.

 

Seems to be a required aspect now, to have one or more major departures every season.

They will give a lot of screen time to cast members in the lead up to them being fired or quitting, like Parker from BD Sailing Yacht.

Among the current BDM cast, there are a couple of low-drama deck hands who get minimal screen time so they probably aren't going anywhere.

But OTOH, those who create drama may also be given a longer leash because they're creating "good TV" like that Danny Z. guy who stuck around a lot longer despite repeatedly flouting rules.

[Jextella]

On 6/27/2020 at 12:49 PM, scrb said:

Seems to be a required aspect now, to have one or more major departures every season.

They will give a lot of screen time to cast members in the lead up to them being fired or quitting, like Parker from BD Sailing Yacht.

Among the current BDM cast, there are a couple of low-drama deck hands who get minimal screen time so they probably aren't going anywhere.

But OTOH, those who create drama may also be given a longer leash because they're creating "good TV" like that Danny Z. guy who stuck around a lot longer despite repeatedly flouting rules.

I haven't been watching but binged to get caught up last night.  I really like Hannah but its pretty clear she's not a great leader and the chief stew job is not for her.  She really doesn't seem into the whole thing so getting fired isn't surprising I guess.  I think something must have happened in between seasons because her vibe has been gloomy since the first episode.

I do really like Malia.   She really is a good leader, I think.  

Edited June 30, 2020 by Jextella

[dleighg]

29 minutes ago, Jextella said:

I do really like Malia.   She really is a good leader, I think.

I would like her as a manager. But I'm an easy-going woman. I think she needs to be more strict with good-ol-boys who want to take advantage and don't really accept her as a boss.

[Jextella]

On 6/17/2020 at 6:08 PM, Neurochick said:

Don't companies look through a person's social media to see if they should hire them.

When my daughter was applying for colleges, we were told by several to avoid posting controversial matter on social media.  Colleges look and acceptance can be revoked.  Same goes for criminal records - or so we were told.