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A place to discuss particular episodes, arcs and moments from Chicago Fire's first season and a half. Please remember this isn't a complete catch-all topic -- check out the forum for current episode topics, character topics and other places for show-related talk.

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Just watched S1E1 because a lot of the seasons are available for free from my cable provider right now.

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Wow! That was an emotional ride for a first episode. And hey, it's the guy from House! It has the format of a medical show, and apparently deep relationships, so I'm hooked!! (Or at least as long as I can get it free...)

 

I do hope it gets easier to keep track of who is who when their suited up and "on the job" with their face masks though. If not for closed captions, I wouldn't have known who was speaking. LOL

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Well, if one of the firemen end up dangling off of something, or otherwise ridiculously endangered, he's probably Casey.

 

If he rubs his arm/neck afterwards and looks kind of sour, he's probably Severide.

 

If he's cute and earnest, he's probably Peter Mills.

 

You'll get the hang of the others soon enough.  :-)

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Just a quick reminder that the board will be undergoing an important upgrade tomorrow, beginning at approximately 9:00 a.m., give or take. This may take most of the day.

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Thanks Squidprincess. Yea, all of the characters are really growing on me. But I have another problem with season 1, now...

It feels like the episodes are out of order because there are what looks like huge chuncks of information shown in the first little "Previously on Chicago Fire..." bits that I totally haven't seen! And I feel fairly confident that I haven't slept through them, since I've been streaming them for the past 3 days. LOL

 

I say "episodes out of order" because that's exactly what happened to another show that I streamed from a different streaming provider.

 

However, the Wikipedia page has them in the same order I watched them.... Strange.

 

Did anybody else feel the same way, watching season 1 live?

 

So far, all the characters are really likeable. Well, except Mouch, but I think he's meant to be somewhat unlikable, haha! Oh, and Casey's original girlfriend, but that may be just me. I guess I'm shipping Casey and Dawson at this point, but they're cute as just buddies, too, so I won't be upset if they don't hook up.

 

Happy watching, all!

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I'm a recent convert, too hacerry.

And you're not the only one who didn't care for Hallie. There was just something bland abt her.

Mouch is a riot. I don't think he's that unlikable in S1 at all. Severide was unlikable to me.

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Oooohhh, Mills just stood up to the Chief on a subject. I would have never seen that coming. And I'm not sure if it's character growth, or out of character, yet. More episodes will tell!!

And for as bummed as Kelly was about the idea of being resigned to desk duty due to surgery, I'm very surprised at this negative reaction to the experimental surgery. Yes, a person is correct IMO to be wary of an experimental surgery that could cause paralysis, but c'mon - the Kelly character is all about big risks and ignoring consequences! ... Unless his character is growing too in the middle of this first season.

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Does anyone care to explain what does this scene means please? Like why did Timothy said that to Voight? 
 

Dialogue

Timothy : Wait , You’re Voight? Thank god , tell them. 
Voight then shoots him in the head 

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On 10/13/2020 at 1:19 PM, xin said:

Does anyone care to explain what does this scene means please? Like why did Timothy said that to Voight? 
 

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Timothy : Wait , You’re Voight? Thank god , tell them. 
Voight then shoots him in the head 

This goes back to Fire season 1, right? When Voight killed the guy who killed Hallie and who had a gun to Casey's head? It's been a while, haha! 

I never really understood that scene. As someone who only watches Fire, it played as Voight shutting that guy up and stopping him from saying something that would incriminate Voight. But I think it was supposed to underscore how "undercover dirty" Voight was at the beginning of PD, since this goon thought Voight could help him, and that Voight blew his cover to save Casey's life. 

But I didn't/don't watch PD and hate Voight like people hate Gabby, so who knows.

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6 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

 

Enjoy! You missed the good years. 😉

Thanks!  I'm looking forward to it.

9 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

I haven't either.  I have only started watching the series in the last couple of years.

Me too!  I've never seen the Gabby episodes I read about here.   I did see her briefly on Chicago PD reruns and only once when she came back to visit and mess with Matt's head on CFD.  

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19 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 

Thanks!  I'm looking forward to it.

Me too!  I've never seen the Gabby episodes I read about here.   I did see her briefly on Chicago PD reruns and only once when she came back to visit and mess with Matt's head on CFD.  

Well... there is that.  The good years except for the second half of Gabby's run.  😉  But Peter Mills, Leslie Shay, and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting were awesome.

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3 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Well... there is that.  The good years except for the second half of Gabby's run.  😉  But Peter Mills, Leslie Shay, and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting were awesome.

Clarke....I loved Jeff Clarke.

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I loved Clarke... til they sent him over to Med and completely rewrote the character. 

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1 hour ago, Avabelle said:

I loved Clarke... til they sent him over to Med and completely rewrote the character. 

That was a crime against humanity.

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On 6/10/2021 at 3:39 PM, FnkyChkn34 said:

Well... there is that.  The good years except for the second half of Gabby's run.  😉  But Peter Mills, Leslie Shay, and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting were awesome.

I never liked Shay when she was attached to Severide; I found them to be super creepy and weird together, but Shay was pretty cool when she was with Gabby, Rafferty, and even sudden friends with Casey near the end of season 2. And I still don't understand what happened with Mills/Charlie Barnett; what a waste of a good character (I'd rather have seen Cruz leave than Mills, hindsight being what it is). Other than that, I liked Newhouse, too.

But almost all the characters were awesome back in the earlier seasons. The characterizations and writing shifted so much by season 5-6 that it's pretty much like watching an entirely different cast of characters for seasons 1-3, with season 4 starting to show the results of Fire's writing/showrunning talent being gutted to support PD and Med.

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I didn’t mind the PS crossovers because at least Haas was involved in both so the characters were reasonably true to themselves. Anything crossover with Ames though was always awful because the showrunners of Med clearly didn’t watch Fire or PD so characters popping to Med would always be so out of character. Also, Med had always been the shittiest of the three. 

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22 hours ago, dovegrey said:

I never liked Shay when she was attached to Severide; I found them to be super creepy and weird together, but Shay was pretty cool when she was with Gabby, Rafferty, and even sudden friends with Casey near the end of season 2. And I still don't understand what happened with Mills/Charlie Barnett; what a waste of a good character (I'd rather have seen Cruz leave than Mills, hindsight being what it is). Other than that, I liked Newhouse, too.

But almost all the characters were awesome back in the earlier seasons. The characterizations and writing shifted so much by season 5-6 that it's pretty much like watching an entirely different cast of characters for seasons 1-3, with season 4 starting to show the results of Fire's writing/showrunning talent being gutted to support PD and Med.

But funny enough, and most likely due to Shay being gay, they were a prime example of a well-done platonic relationship. They worked together and cared for each other like you'd expect from good friends. And that is a foreign concept on One Chicago these days. Now, if male and female characters care about one another, they have to be in a romantic relationship.

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2 hours ago, WinJet0819 said:

Now, if male and female characters care about one another, they have to be in a romantic relationship.

Or even if that’s not the intention annoying shippers start stanning and it almost always takes over the direction of the show or story.

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  From the Chicago Fire in the Media thread:

On 6/12/2021 at 3:28 PM, WinJet0819 said:

But funny enough, and most likely due to Shay being gay, they were a prime example of a well-done platonic relationship. They worked together and cared for each other like you'd expect from good friends. And that is a foreign concept on One Chicago these days. Now, if male and female characters care about one another, they have to be in a romantic relationship.

That's a really good point. It was refreshing that they had a tight friendship without a clear romantic element. On the flipside, I'd argue that they were as emotionally hitched as Casey and Gabby, if not more so. There was no overt romantic passion, but they definitely met or exceeded each other's commitment and psychological intimacy needs, and they were all up in each other's sexual business and traded a few partners, IIRC. And they agreed to have a kid together, which is just about as far as Dawsey ever got and is further than Stellaride has gotten in five years. "Platonic" fits by definition, but they seemed so much more involved in each other than that; I'd even argue that Shay was the love of Severide's life, looking back across the full 9 seasons.

In any case, I've always thought that Shay and Severide had the friendship that so much of fandom is convinced that Casey and Severide have, which is odd because Shay and Severide only knew each other for 3 years at most by the end of season 2..and that's being really generous with the established timeline. I buy the friendship, but I also think the writers unintentionally wrote an underlying unhealthy dynamic there, especially given Severide's original characterization and a lot of what he got up to in season 1 that he pressured Shay to be involved in. I think this is why I think of them as creepy together.

As I write this, I think Gabby and Severide and Casey and Kidd are the closest heterosexual platonic friendships the show has ever had, but those are both friend-of-my-significant-other situations. I forget if Brett and Mills got up to anything.

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I watched the first couple of episodes of this series last night (DVR), and man they look so much younger, and wow are they bitchy.  Fast forward to this past season and now they are older, have a few extra pounds, and are whiny.  I suppose I am going to have to watch all of the episodes in between (I was going to anyway) just to see what the hell happened.

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8 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

I watched the first couple of episodes of this series last night (DVR), and man they look so much younger, and wow are they bitchy.  Fast forward to this past season and now they are older, have a few extra pounds, and are whiny.  I suppose I am going to have to watch all of the episodes in between (I was going to anyway) just to see what the hell happened.

I recorded it too and was planning to watch this weekend.   I hope it's worth the time and effort.

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I started watching S1 and so far I'm loving it.  I'm up to E6 now.    I just love being able to FF through the commercials.

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I'm watching S2 now and so far I love it. The early years were so much better than what I've seen the past three years.

I read a lot of negative comments about Gabby but so far, she's OK. I guess she doesn't become a pain in the a$$ for another few seasons and until she hooks up with Casey.

I really enjoyed the backstory of Molly's.

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1 hour ago, AnnA said:

I'm watching S2 now and so far I love it. The early years were so much better than what I've seen the past three years.

I've read a lot of negative comments about Gabby but so far, she's OK. I guess she doesn't become a pain in the a$$ for another few seasons and until she hooks up with Casey.

I really enjoyed the backstory of Molly's.

They definitely were! :) Seriously, enjoy these seasons. They were good.

I really enjoyed and liked Gabby - and Matt and Gabby together - until sometime in season 5. I'm sure you've picked up on details in the talk of later season episodes, but without saying anything too specific, I don't think that what happened to Gabby was limited to Gabby, per se. I tend to think all of the characters ultimately became reduced to the most extreme of their primary traits, but Gabby's primary traits happen to be ones that are annoying when not tempered by anything else and she was the female lead hooked up with the #1 lead, so lots of screentime.

And, heh, the backstory of Molly's is something that probably should have been a thing after Matt and Gabby broke up in season 7. This shut down, divorced 40-something guy who rooms with a coworker spends most of his nights drinking at his ex-wife's beloved bar, but no one ever mentioned it or questioned his mental health. Every time I see the door at Molly's, I think about the backstory there. (Honestly, based on interviews, I don't think the showrunner remembers or cares to remember.)

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In Season 2 Episode 6 Dardens Badge hanging on the memorial wall clearly says: 17139.

But in Season 2 Episode 7, The next episode when Casey hands Griffin the copy they made of the badge the number says: 17137

How can they miss that?

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Season one talk, first fifteen episodes.

Random thoughts.

I'm not watching the episodes nearly as fast.   I am letting them stack up on the DVR.  There isn't much on in the summer, so I am pacing myself.  I have watched the first fifteen episodes of season one.

I will say in season one, Boden is a bit of an asshole.  He has bigger things to worry about than a newbie dating Dawson.   What business is it of his what they do on their own time?  If he wanted to make it a permanent issue where coworkers couldn't date, that would be okay as long as it applied to everyone.  That said, Severide was the bigger issue.  He couldn't keep his penis in his holster, and he was hiding his injury which could have cost lives.  Plus he was pressuring a coworker to get him pain killers (drugs).   Then he dated a pharmaceutical rep in order to get drugs since his coworker cut him off.

And the kid that was setting fires cost one fireman his career and shortened that fireman's life.  And yet Boden wanted to help the little asshole.  Yeah, I get it, the kid was being pressured by his "uncle" to set fires.  If the kid wanted to run away from his "uncle" he sure as heck could have.

Otis should have joined the other firehouse.  He seemed to fit in there.  Plus he is kind of an asshole. 

Cruz is losing his shit, because he let someone die in a fire, thinking that would help out his brother.  Cruz wants to talk it over with Casey, but Casey doesn't want him to go there unless he wants to go to the police station and tell them what he had done.

I like the dog.

I never understood how annoying Herrmann was until I started watching season one.  He wasn't as annoying in the last two or three seasons.  Any how, man, Hermann was a sucker for a get rich quick scheme in season one.  One after the other, and he kept trying to draw his coworkers into it.  What a jerk.

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I'm well into S2 now and I'm still loving it.   Every now and then there's an episode I could do without - like the one with the fire at the prison.  It reminded me of a more recent episode where the men are trapped in an elevator shaft.  I really didn't like that one - not just because they were trapped for most of it but because it was so damn dark.   The prison episode had them trapped and most of the scenes were in smoke filled areas - it was another trapped and I can hardly see scenario.

I was fascinated by the way Chicago Fire introduced us to Sgt. Voight.   I especially appreciated learning how Casey was involved.

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The only problem with watching these episodes in syndication is when it comes to crossover episodes.   We get to see the Chicago Fire part of it, but not the episode or episodes from series it crossed over to.

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On 6/22/2021 at 9:12 PM, AnnA said:

I'm watching S2 now and so far I love it. The early years were so much better than what I've seen the past three years.

I read a lot of negative comments about Gabby but so far, she's OK. I guess she doesn't become a pain in the a$$ for another few seasons and until she hooks up with Casey.

I really enjoyed the backstory of Molly's.

It really wasn't until Gabby decided she wanted to be a firefighter out of nowhere that the negativity with Gabby started. And once the one person who could keep her in check left, that's when the show graduated to Gabby Fire.

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I am still watching season one, towards the end of that season.

So let me get this straight.  Severide expects everyone to believe that he didn't sexually assault his co-worker, and at the same time he won't give the benefit of a doubt to Casey when he says that he didn't sleep with the widow of the fireman.

When Severide basically said he didn't believe Casey when he said that he didn't sleep with the widow, I was so hoping Casey's response would have been, "Why Severide, because that is the type of thing you would have done?"

That would have been the perfect response to that egotistical asshole, Severide.  His penis ought to come with a counter, counting how many people he has "served".

At the most basic level, which is what I am talking about, trust,  Severide expects everyone to trust him, and believe in him, and give him the benefit of a doubt, but he is unwilling to extend the same courtesy to Casey.

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Still finishing up the end of season one, one episode of that season left to watch.

Mills is an emotional wreck/hot head.  I don't know if he truly dumped Dawson, because he was that upset with her, or if he dumped Dawson, because he thought he would lose her to Casey.  Maybe a little of both.

What did Mills expect Dawson to do?  Did he expect her to tell him up front that she knew that Boden had slept with his mom?  Given Mills' history that more than likely would have set him off.  Dawson did the right thing.

Mills has a really short fuse, and I don't think that is a good thing to have, given the line of work he is in.  Given his volatile behavior, I don't think he is the type of person to get romantically involved with either.

I liked Casey's girlfriend, or whatever she was to him before she was murdered. 

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2 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

Still finishing up the end of season one, one episode of that season left to watch.

Mills is an emotional wreck/hot head.  I don't know if he truly dumped Dawson, because he was that upset with her, or if he dumped Dawson, because he thought he would lose her to Casey.  Maybe a little of both.

What did Mills expect Dawson to do?  Did he expect her to tell him up front that she knew that Boden had slept with his mom?  Given Mills' history that more than likely would have set him off.  Dawson did the right thing.

Mills has a really short fuse, and I don't think that is a good thing to have, given the line of work he is in.  Given his volatile behavior, I don't think he is the type of person to get romantically involved with either.

I liked Casey's girlfriend, or whatever she was to him before she was murdered. 

I'm two weeks into the ION marathon which brings me into S2. 

I agree with you about Mills.  Sometimes he acts childish.  It surprised me that he was so upset by the news about Boden and his mother from years ago.  It's none of his business.  If anything he should have been upset with his mother.   I just couldn't see Dawson and Mills as a couple anyway.

I'll follow your lead because I'm trying to be careful about not saying too much since I'm a half season ahead of you.  

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3 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

Still finishing up the end of season one, one episode of that season left to watch.

Mills is an emotional wreck/hot head.  I don't know if he truly dumped Dawson, because he was that upset with her, or if he dumped Dawson, because he thought he would lose her to Casey.  Maybe a little of both.

What did Mills expect Dawson to do?  Did he expect her to tell him up front that she knew that Boden had slept with his mom?  Given Mills' history that more than likely would have set him off.  Dawson did the right thing.

Mills has a really short fuse, and I don't think that is a good thing to have, given the line of work he is in.  Given his volatile behavior, I don't think he is the type of person to get romantically involved with either.

I liked Casey's girlfriend, or whatever she was to him before she was murdered. 

Matt's relationship was Hallie was always something I wish they had kept. A main character starting a show already in a relationship and having it grow. But they just had push Dawsey. 

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On 6/28/2021 at 9:19 PM, AnnA said:

I'll follow your lead because I'm trying to be careful about not saying too much since I'm a half season ahead of you.  

ETA: Thank you,  that is very king of you, but I don't know when I will be able to catch up on the episodes.   When you comment about any specific episode, if you post at the top what episodes you are talking about, then when I catch up watching to that point, I will be able to give my thoughts about those episodes if I feel I have anything to add.   I have so many seasons to catch up on.  I started watching Chicago Fire the last two or three seasons, I have to watch all of the episodes prior to that.  Don't be concerned about spoiling it for me.  Post away.

Looking at the Chicago Fire threads, it looks like each individual episode thread starts with season 2 episode 14.

If I remember to do so, I put where I am in the series at the top of every episode related post in an effort not to spoil anyone who hadn't gotten that far yet.  Given that Ion is re-airing the first eighteen episodes of season one on July 4th, I don't want to spoil anything for those who start watching it then or in the future.  For them it is new, just like for me it was new when it first aired in syndication in the past couple of weeks.

I watched the last episode of season one.

I am horrible when it comes to reading people, a socially awkward thing.    A form of social dyslexia.  I am not sure if that is a real thing or not, but that is kind of how my socially awkward mind works.  An unintentional contrarian.  I am not dyslexic in the traditional sense. 

That said, I am a bit surprised that I was right when it came to Mills.  He could see that Dawson was into Casey, and with Casey's significant other being murdered, that kind of opened the door for Dawson to walk through and console Casey.  Mills dumped Dawson before she could dump him.  He left the door open for her, but his suspicion about her wanting to be with Casey was confirmed by her.

In the real world I don't think that works in most cases the way it appears Dawson wants it to.  That to me comes as almost a rebound type of relationship.  Casey is grieving, and will most likely cling to Dawson in an effort to fill that emotional void over the loss of Hallie.

As long as Dawson is just there as a friend, I have no problem with it.  However, if Dawson uses Casey's grief in an effort to get into a "intimate relationship" with him, that would be a rotten thing to do.   Plus, I think it will blow up in her face once Casey is able to better deal with that grief.

Mills is an emotional impulsive mess.   A "take my ball and go home" personality type.

Shay is out of her mind.  She wants to have a baby in such an impulsive way that I just don't think she is in the right frame of mind to have one.  Severide is nuts for going along with it. 

It was interesting at the end of this episode when Severide's "lover" came back pregnant. 

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9 hours ago, WinJet0819 said:

Matt's relationship was Hallie was always something I wish they had kept. A main character starting a show already in a relationship and having it grow. But they just had push Dawsey. 

I agree with you.   The writers should have kept those two together.  I am amazed at how immature most of the characters are in season one.  There doesn't seem to be an adult in the room.

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2 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

In the real world I don't think that works in most cases the way it appears Dawson wants it to.  That to me comes as almost a rebound type of relationship.  Casey is grieving, and will most likely cling to Dawson in an effort to fill that emotional void over the loss of Hallie.

Without getting into specifics, I've long thought that their entire romantic relationship was carried on the momentum of sporadic high-emotion events, starting with Hallie. Even as recently as season 8, Casey mentioned to Gallo that it took him a long while to come to grips with Hallie's death. The season 9 writers really could have used that to help unravel Dawsey at the end.

11 hours ago, WinJet0819 said:

Matt's relationship was Hallie was always something I wish they had kept. A main character starting a show already in a relationship and having it grow. But they just had push Dawsey. 

Hindsight being what it is, I've wished that they'd kept Hallie long enough to have her hop over to Chicago Med. The lead of Fire being married to the lead of Med would have lended a lot more to "One Chicago" feeling genuinely connected and intersected. Anyway, I liked Matt and Hallie together and have joked that I absolutely wouldn't have minded if she had miraculously risen from the dead out of a witness protection program in season 8 or season 9. (Sorry, Brett.)

18 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

That would have been the perfect response to that egotistical asshole, Severide.  His penis ought to come with a counter, counting how many people he has "served".

At the most basic level, which is what I am talking about, trust,  Severide expects everyone to trust him, and believe in him, and give him the benefit of a doubt, but he is unwilling to extend the same courtesy to Casey.

Your entire post here basically describes why I've never liked Severide, will never like Severide, and will never "buy" the turnaround in his character (which is apparent in the more recent seasons). His popularity astounds me.

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Season 2 episode 1.

So Shay planted the seed in Severide that he didn't plant the seed in his girlfriend.  Interesting.  On Shay's part, that doesn't sound like a friendship thing, it sounds like a bitterness thing, since it looks like Severide won't supply Shay with any of his swimmers. 

Given how Severide gets around, and given the possibility that he knocked up his girlfriend, I don't know why Shay would want his swimmers anyway.

Dawson reeks of assholishness.  She is really going after Casey, her eyes as she looks at him says it all.

So some arsonist hates Severide.  There could be an I hate Severide fan club.  The way he seems to go through women, that shouldn't shock anyone.

So the widow of the fireman who died in season 1 episode 1 looks like she was driving drunk  and got into an accident.  I wonder if Casey will feel any guilt since he bought a round of drinks for the widow and her girlfriends.

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Season 2 Episode 2:

A Wicked Witch of the West moment with a house falling on a motorcyclist.  I am surprised that they didn't elevate the house before the firefighters climbed into the house.  Doing what they did just added more weight onto the motorcyclist's legs. 

Mills running into his mom's restaurant to save his dad's medals should have been a "fireable" offense.

Mills knows something is up with the new dude in the firehouse, and Casey just assumes Mills is jealous.

So Severide isn't the father of the baby after all.

Severide thinks the fired fireman is the arsonist.  The arsonist isn't just after Severide, he appears to be also after Mills, since it was Mill's mom's restaurant that was set on fire in this episode.

I was surprised that Shay and the realtor didn't immediately "do it" in the rental apartment.

If Dawson didn't want to be around Casey, she wouldn't be around Casey.  The only person she is kidding is herself.

Sounds like Dawson's date is casing the bar. 

So the fireman's widow copped a plea and will be in jail for up to a year and six months.  She asks Casey to be Mr. Mom.  Wouldn't she or her dead husband have relatives who could watch the kids?  Casey isn't in a position where he can take on that responsibility.  Yes, I know the rest of the folks in the firehouse are willing to help, but those kids need stability, not to be passed around like a couple of hot potatoes.  

Mcleod should let violations build up.  Something more significant than having her mole tattle for a child being on firehouse equipment.  That seems like minor stuff, compared to some of the crap that has gone on in that firehouse.   Missing drugs, inappropriate sexual behavior in the firehouse, those sorts of things.

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47 minutes ago, icemiser69 said:

Season 2 Episode 2:

 

So the fireman's widow copped a plea and will be in jail for up to a year and six months.  She asks Casey to be Mr. Mom.  Wouldn't she or her dead husband have relatives who could watch the kids?  Casey isn't in a position where he can take on that responsibility.  Yes, I know the rest of the folks in the firehouse are willing to help, but those kids need stability, not to be passed around like a couple of hot potatoes.  

 

In the episode that Mrs. Widow fell asleep on Casey's couch and Severide came by.........what's her name?  Heather?  asked Casey the time and he said 7am.  She told him she had to go pick up the boys at grandma's.   We never heard about grandma after that.  I would think that when she went to jail, the boys would be staying with their grandparents.  Having her ask Casey to care for them for a year and a half was overkill.  She was really looking to hook up with him.  I'm glad he didn't take the bait.  I didn't like her,

FYI.........I'm still not hating Gabby.

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17 hours ago, AnnA said:

In the episode that Mrs. Widow fell asleep on Casey's couch and Severide came by.........what's her name?  Heather?  asked Casey the time and he said 7am.  She told him she had to go pick up the boys at grandma's.   We never heard about grandma after that.  I would think that when she went to jail, the boys would be staying with their grandparents. 

Yeah that would have made much more sense.   She could then ask Casey to go over and look in on the kids and do things with them.

17 hours ago, AnnA said:

She was really looking to hook up with him.  I'm glad he didn't take the bait.  I didn't like her,

Yeah, just like Gabby going after Casey. 😀

17 hours ago, AnnA said:

FYI.........I'm still not hating Gabby.

I don't like her, because I don't think she was ever into Mills.  I think Mills was her place holder until Casey became available.  I think Mills always knew that, and really didn't have a problem with that, since Casey was already involved with someone else.  As soon as Casey became available Mills knew his relationship with Dawson was over.

There has to be unity with all of the people working at a firehouse.  They have to be able to depend on each other.  I don't think it is a good idea for any of them to have intimate relationships with each other.  Mills definitely can't handle that.

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season 2 episodes 3 and 4 and 5:

I was hoping Hadley wasn't the arsonist.  It just seemed way to easy for it to be him.  He did have a point, Mouch as a union rep should have represented him, regardless of how horrible of human being Hadley was.

Shay and Dawson are having problems getting along.  That is understandable given the trauma from witnessing a suicide.  Shay is running away from it instead of confronting it, and spiraling out of control in the process.  Shay can play it out in her head all she wants.  No matter what she may have said or done, there is no guarantee that the dude wasn't going to commit suicide.

The whole firehouse owe the dude that they thought was the mole an apology, and yet there wasn't one.

If Severide's father is anything, he is a manipulative opportunist.  Does he honestly think he would be able to take that job and have people in that firehouse back him?  Does he expect his son to back him?

If Zoya had gone out with Otis instead of Severide, she probably could have convinced Otis to marry her.  That is if her primary goal was to stay in the country.

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I remember the suicide Dawson and Shay witnessed solidified my Gabby hate. She’s just such a harsh asshole. It’s always her way and it’s the wrong way. With everyone in her life. 
 

 

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On 7/1/2021 at 9:08 PM, icemiser69 said:

 

If Zoya had gone out with Otis instead of Severide, she probably could have convinced Otis to marry her.  That is if her primary goal was to stay in the country.

Otis and Zoya were cousins.  He got her the job at Molly's because his mother made him do it.

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I've been watching the early seasons on ION and will finish up S3 this coming Tuesday.   Until I started watching from the beginning, I thought Chicago Fire (S7-9) was nothing special.  By the time they started S9, I was barely paying attention while it was on.  When I checked this forum and saw so many S9 episodes under discussion, I decided I should give S9 a second chance and watched the first 3 episodes on demand.   Sadly, I hated them.  I don't care about Girls on Fire and I sure as hell don't care about Stella and her rapid rise in the ranks.   

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23 hours ago, AnnA said:

I've been watching the early seasons on ION and will finish up S3 this coming Tuesday.   Until I started watching from the beginning, I thought Chicago Fire (S7-9) was nothing special.  By the time they started S9, I was barely paying attention while it was on.  When I checked this forum and saw so many S9 episodes under discussion, I decided I should give S9 a second chance and watched the first 3 episodes on demand.   Sadly, I hated them.  I don't care about Girls on Fire and I sure as hell don't care about Stella and her rapid rise in the ranks.   

Yep. I only stick around because of seasons 1-4ish and wanting to see resolution for many of the remaining original characters, like Casey and Boden. Once they're gone, I'm gone. I also think the show still does fire and rescue better than the bits of what I've seen of 911 and Station 19 (I can't stand their brand new, clean turn-out gear), and that part of Fire is still fun to watch...although, unfortunately, this part has been waning.

I'm hoping the current showrunner, Derek Haas, puts his full-time energy into the new FBI International show and hands off Fire to someone who takes it seriously and can competently run an ensemble drama. A lot of the story problems and shifts in tone and characterization stem back to him becoming the only showrunner (which is interesting, because the individual episodes he writes tend to be really good ones).

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