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S06.E04: Let My People Go

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Reza and Adam have an emotional experience exploring both the surrogacy and adoption routes. GG's relationship is laid on the line when she introduces her Jewish boyfriend to her Muslim parents. The Shahs are excited for their trip to Israel, but getting into the country proves to be harder than it seems. MJ is adamant about being a mom soon, but after a wild night out, her friends wonder whether she's ready.
 

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16 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Are we going to have to watch MJ pee every single week?

Apparently. Very compelling...

where does she find her clothes??? I wouldn't even know where to find that mustard number she wore in Israel....

and given all the behavior we've seen MJ exhibit over the seasons, her big concern is not to have a "bastard." Please. I didn't even know people still used that word.

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2 minutes ago, kacesq said:

given all the behavior we've seen MJ exhibit over the seasons, her big concern is not to have a "bastard." Please. I didn't even know people still used that word.

You know Vida uses it constantly.

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1 minute ago, Mindthinkr said:

I'm not going to snark on MJ, however, that jump suit that she was wearing was just NO. Not flattering at all. 

I've been on MJ's side this season because she is going through so much.  I went through watching my dad get worse and worse in the hospital, rehab, then back into the hospital where he died about 8 weeks after he initally went in.  So, I can forgive her most anything because you are walking around in a daze when you go through that.  Glad her Dad looked better in this episode.

But that jumpsuit, yikes.  It's as bad as the one she wore to Mike's party.   Where do you even buy that kind of stuff.

I am really liking Shervin this season.  He seems sweet and adorable, a little hairy, but hunky, Mike too!  I loved it when he was wiping MJ's tears in the previous episode.

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Destiny was my least favorite person on the People's Couch.  They didn't need to resurrect her for this show.

I don't think Tommy is going to be too happy seeing MJs behavior with that random guy.

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Wow! MJ is really one big ball of nastiness and messy as hell.

She is turning into Vida 2.0.

MJ is one of those persons (female or male) that thankfully has not had children and never should.

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I was actually very touched by Reza and Adam when they met with the adoption agent in their condo---I never dreamed he would be so pro-adoption/foster parenting. His crying about all the orphans in the world seemed very genuine; I guess it struck a nerve for me since a girlfriend of mine fosters children of all ages and her passion and commitment to what can often be a painfully emotional process is beyond impressive. I'm shocked that someone who comes off as materialistic, narcissistic and shallow as Reza would ever consider such a process, but major props to him if he is indeed truly considering fostering/adoption. There's more than enough people in this crowded world indeed---adoption is about as selfless as a hopeful new parent can be.

Not so selfless? Trying to get pregnant at age 44 when you're a huge drunk with mommy issues...MJ needs to accept that natural birth at her age and situation in life just isn't fair. Nothing about her screams mother material to me, and given her own mother's cold selfishness I just can't even imagine the poor kid that would be stuck with her as a grandmother.

Gettung detained at the airport for 5 hours?! Yikes...how awful for them.

Being 5 months pregnant on a 20 hour flight?! Yikes...how awful for Asa.

Mike is coming off so douchey and gross this year. And bragging about his supposedly huge dick((love that GG immediately squished that))? Gross. 

Like Asa, Shervin seems way too sweet and mellow for this trashy bunch. Destiny is just "meh" for me so far, but at least she seems to mesh with the group much better than Lilly G did; homegirl can seriously party!

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Personally I don't thing Adam and Reza have any business having a foster child, using a surrogate or adoption.  Reza only seems to be doing it because of Adam and that just isn't going to fly.

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Someone please explain to me why MJ thought it was appropriate to bring a Playboy and Penthouse magazine to the hospital...further post them on the walls? Uh...nope. IMHO

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I don't think Reza would be a good dad. He's really superficial, selfish, conceited and that kid is gonna overhear lots of inappropriate opinions. He can't go 2 minutes without blurting a stereotype or slur  and talking shit. 

I don't really like Destiney and agree she was the weakest link of The People's Couch (I'm under the impression that show may still come back). Mike seems like the type of dude that will end up on Celebrity Rehab or Couples Bootcamp (he's in love with himself so can go on alone). 

When MJ has her kid Tommy will be the one doing diapers, feedings, any sort of cleaning, driving to school. He seems like he's be a wacky dad but kind. 

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14 minutes ago, iwasish said:

No mention of MJs disgustingly filthy feet when she crawled fully clothed into bed?

It's just so hard to pinpoint just one disgusting thing about her that I missed her feet. Tommy deserves better and he's pretty gross himself.

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1 hour ago, Emmeline said:

I've been on MJ's side this season because she is going through so much.  I went through watching my dad get worse and worse in the hospital, rehab, then back into the hospital where he died about 8 weeks after he initally went in.  So, I can forgive her most anything because you are walking around in a daze when you go through that.  Glad her Dad looked better in this episode.

But that jumpsuit, yikes.  It's as bad as the one she wore to Mike's party.   Where do you even buy that kind of stuff.

I am really liking Shervin this season.  He seems sweet and adorable, a little hairy, but hunky, Mike too!  I loved it when he was wiping MJ's tears in the previous episode.

I can't understand how she is going to Israel while he is in the hospital. What is she thinking? I am saddened by this. 

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Why were they detained in the first place?  Didn't the airport security people see the cameras?  Or were they detained because of the cameras?

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8 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Why were they detained in the first place?  Didn't the airport security people see the cameras?  Or were they detained because of the cameras?

They never said why they were detained but because some cameras went through, to film Asa/MJ, and others were kept back with the rest, I suspect it was faked for the show. LOL

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37 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Did Asa get pregnant the natural way or was science involved?

She never said but MJ has said it was in vitro.

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Living out the "last of her youth"? You are 44 years old. Omg 

Mike's brother sounds exactly like him.

It was cute how nervous Shalom was at dinner.

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1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

They never said why they were detained but because some cameras went through, to film Asa/MJ, and others were kept back with the rest, I suspect it was faked for the show. LOL

Based on my experience with Israeli passport control/customs,I very much doubt they or any countries border officials would stage something like this for a reality show. The camera crew most likely asked to stay behind. 

With her yearly trips to Iran, Gigi was virtually guaranteed extra scrutiny/additional questions.

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Is MJ really worrying about squeezing in every last moment of partying she can before she gets pregnant in a month (ha)? Bitch is 45. She hasn't partied enough yet?  Reza is right, her chances of getting pregnant at her age the natural way are like winning the lottery. She's gonna need a lot of help of the artificial kind. Everybody get prepared for the endless visits to the fertility specialist, the endless pee sticks, the endless crude talk between her and Tommy about knocking her up. Almost as boring as Reza and Adam with their fake baby talk. I say fake because it's pretty clear Reza is not in to having any kids. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's going to be a huge problem for Adam.  Don't people talk about this shit before they get married?

12 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

She never said but MJ has said it was in vitro.

Asa said tonight it was natural. A miracle. A surprise. A blessing. Blah, blah. I think she lies a lot.  

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8 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Asa said tonight it was natural. A miracle. A surprise. A blessing. Blah, blah. I think she lies a lot.  

Sorry hadn't seen tonight's episode but I put even less stock in MJ telling the truth.

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GG is on WWHL and she said MJs feet were not dirty it was because MJ uses self tanner but does not follow the directions and wash here soles or hands.  She said MJ doesn't bathe for days after self tanning.  I knew the woman was disgusting.

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4 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

GG is on WWHL and she said MJs feet were not dirty it was because MJ uses self tanner but does not follow the directions and wash here soles or hands.  She said MJ doesn't bathe for days after self tanning.  I knew the woman was disgusting.

Ewwww! MJ is one gross slovenly person. I bet if you had to sit or stand next her anywhere she would smell over ripe.

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5 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

GG is on WWHL and she said MJs feet were not dirty it was because MJ uses self tanner but does not follow the directions and wash here soles or hands.

That doesn't even make sense. Who puts self tanner on the soles of their feet? Nah, that was just filthy feet from not wearing any shoes and probably like GG said not bathing for days. Between the cigs, the booze and not bathing, MJ must reek. 

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1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

Sorry hadn't seen tonight's episode but I put even less stock in MJ telling the truth.

MJ strikes me as someone who would say anything just to hurt someone or start/stir shit

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3 minutes ago, JayEeeBee said:

MJ strikes me as someone who would say anything just to hurt someone or start/stir shit

A dirty and smelly shitstick who pees on ovulation sticks for a NO thank goodness.

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39 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

That doesn't even make sense. Who puts self tanner on the soles of their feet? Nah, that was just filthy feet from not wearing any shoes and probably like GG said not bathing for days. Between the cigs, the booze and not bathing, MJ must reek. 

If you leave excess on and sweat or in heat it can in fact run down into your feet. Though I will assume MJ is filthy based on her apt.

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I am trying to remember exactly what MJ said about Asa's pregnancy but I believe it had something to do with Asa going MJ's fertility doctor for treatment and then feigning she got pregnant naturally and it was a big surprise.

Then again these idiots don't seem to know what a bastard is and really shouldn't care given their behavior, obsess over  being born into the world without married parents as that would be the least of the child's concern.  How Reza could ever pass a background check to be a foster parent defies logic.

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Well let's all be happy that MJ sprayed on strong smelling perfume and took a water bottle shower in public at the airport in the waiting/lounge/public area. GROSS!

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1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

Based on my experience with Israeli passport control/customs,I very much doubt they or any countries border officials would stage something like this for a reality show. The camera crew most likely asked to stay behind. 

With her yearly trips to Iran, Gigi was virtually guaranteed extra scrutiny/additional questions.

But, would they allow the cameras to film them waiting to be questioned though? I kind of doubt that and there was nothing to indicate that the room they were waiting in was for questioning detainees. Of course, I have never traveled outside the US and Canada so I know nothing about this, so I am just guessing and I put nothing past Bravo/production. LOL

1 hour ago, mbaywife123 said:

Ewwww! MJ is one gross slovenly person. I bet if you had to sit or stand next her anywhere she would smell over ripe.

Which is why she puts on so much perfume that Asa could smell it sitting several feet from MJ. LOL

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4 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

But, would they allow the cameras to film them waiting to be questioned though? I kind of doubt that and there was nothing to indicate that the room they were waiting in was for questioning detainees. Of course, I have never traveled outside the US and Canada so I know nothing about this, so I am just guessing and I put nothing past Bravo/production. LOL

Which is why she puts on so much perfume that Asa could smell it sitting several feet from MJ. LOL

No doubt, this is why at our very local grocery store when I see  (smell) the wives of prominent business men headed down the aisle ( and yes I know them) I head the other way to avoid  contact because they reek of Dior Poison, Giorgio, Estée Lauder, ect. and my sinuses can't handle the overload.

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I did find it amusing that this was not the only show that aired tonight that had a discussion about the term bastard.

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Asa.  We get it.  You're pregnant and rightfully excited about it.

However.  I am tired of newly first time pregnant people acting like YOUR pregnancy is the pregnancy of all pregnancies. 

Until this season I thought you were a loopy, well meaning Persian Galactic Princess. Now?  I think maybe I should stop dismissing MJ's gripes about you.  Because you're coming off incredibly narcissistic. 

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20 minutes ago, dosodog said:

think maybe I should stop dismissing MJ's gripes about you.  Because you're coming off incredibly narcissistic. 

MJ literally said that Asa's pregnancy was just a sign for MJ to get pregnant.Asa has never brought up her pregnancy one on with MJ, other than her announcement she has only mentioned it once at group dinner when asking what was in a dish and to leave the club when they were smoking the hookah. MJ has brought it up more than Asa including talking about how messed up it is that she wasn't getting married and bring up the word bastard and talking about it with Mike. That is narcissistic, MJ is making Asa's pregnancy all about MJ.

On her one on one convo with MJ at Mike's party she immediately changed the conversation to ask about what was going on with MJs dad.

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Ugh . . . Reza. I really hate his tendency to refer to all women as "bitches." He even spoke of the hypothetical mother of his child as a "Harvard bitch or Yale bitch." I hope he is playing up his obnoxiousness for the cameras. Otherwise, what does Adam see in him? Why do the other shahs constantly kiss his ring?

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9 hours ago, biakbiak said:

If you leave excess on and sweat or in heat it can in fact run down into your feet. Though I will assume MJ is filthy based on her apt.

Self tanner is pretty easy to distinguish from dirt. This was dirt, black/gray built up filth on the soles of her feet from walking on unclean floors.

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2 hours ago, biakbiak said:

MJ literally said that Asa's pregnancy was just a sign for MJ to get pregnant.Asa has never brought up her pregnancy one on with MJ, other than her announcement she has only mentioned it once at group dinner when asking what was in a dish and to leave the club when they were smoking the hookah. MJ has brought it up more than Asa including talking about how messed up it is that she wasn't getting married and bring up the word bastard and talking about it with Mike. That is narcissistic, MJ is making Asa's pregnancy all about MJ.

On her one on one convo with MJ at Mike's party she immediately changed the conversation to ask about what was going on with MJs dad.

I don't disagree with you one iota about MJ's behavior.   Doesn't necessarily maker her observations about Asa incorrect. I have dismissed them in the past because it's MJ.  But I'm beginning to understand her complaints. 

My opinion is based on 4 episodes of Asa taking proud new motherhood to a level that is zillaesque in nature.  Pregnantzilla, but not as catchy as Bridezilla.

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I am not liking Adam this season.  He wants a baby, not because he wants to care for a child, but because it is the "next step" in the relationship?  Okaaay.  And he wants a little girl to dress up.  If he thinks babies are like little dolls, he should spend some time around one.

Reza seems to know that they are a lot of work.  I was surprised at how emptional he got when talking about all of the gay kids put out by their parents.  But they don't seem caring enough or selfless enough to take on a troubled child.  

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12 hours ago, JayEeeBee said:

MJ strikes me as someone who would say anything just to hurt someone or start/stir shit

It's why she and Reza get along so well and why she & Asa don't.  Reza loves having someone who acts shady like him, and Asa hates having someone (not named Reza) who's shady like her.

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12 hours ago, JayEeeBee said:

MJ strikes me as someone who would say anything just to hurt someone or start/stir shit

GG is also someone who would say anything just to hurt someone or start/stir shit. 

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2 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I am not liking Adam this season.  He wants a baby, not because he wants to care for a child, but because it is the "next step" in the relationship?  Okaaay.  And he wants a little girl to dress up.  If he thinks babies are like little dolls, he should spend some time around one.

How about when he said,  we need to have kids so we can be taken care of when we are old and busted.  Unfortunately, this is a reason a lot of people use for having kids. It's sick. I'm not liking Adam this season, either. 

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Well, take me to the woodshed & beat some sense into me, because I actually think Reza would make a "better" parent than Adam.  I've seen children transform seemingly narcissistic people into doting & devoted parents too often to discount this possibility.

I hold little hope for MJ, on the other hand.

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I think Tommy might be a good parent, but, since MJ refers to a potential baby as "hers" not theirs, I can see her blocking Tommy out of her and a baby's slovenly lives if something happens between them.  Hell, she was away from Tommy for a day and she was all over a complete stranger.  She's such a pig. 

Incredibly, I think GG might be my favorite cast member this season.  Not that the bar is set too high. And I like Shervin.  Why am I watching this again?

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