S12.E02: It's Either My Way or the Feng Shui

[RHJunkie]

14 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Bottom line,  Lydia had no business in that conversation except to get herself a storyline. I don't like her and hope she is eviscerated this season. 

Bottom line, Shannon over-reacted. It goes both ways. As I said, neither party is innocent in that encounter.

That said, this is no different than similar and other tactics the women use to get screen time and buy themselves a storyline. They insert themselves into a situation as a 'mediator', they gossip and it catches up to them, they play the mean girl who takes issue with one or more of the women in the group for what seems like no reason, they attempt the 'I don't give a shit' attitude that rubs the other women the wrong way, etc. Shannon is the only person that I can remember in recent years on this franchise that walked onto the show and had others create a storyline for her without her having to really do anything. Everyone wanted to talk about her being uppity and her marriage - they handed it to her on a silver platter.

[RHJunkie]

13 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

If Tamra was the least bit gracious or had an ounce of class she would have walked her high and mighty ass over to Brianna, hugged her, thanked her for coming, made a few seconds of small talk or fawn over Brianna's kids for a minute and then excused herself to go get some food, drink or what ever you do to get away from someone at a party. She's nothing but a hillbilly that got lucky with this show. Can't stand her. 

She claimed that by the time she went over to look for Brianna she had already left. She also made comments about hearing that Brianna had arrived but there was one point where the camera caught both of them in the same frame. Tamra had her back facing Brianna but they weren't that far apart. I suspect that Tarma had any eye on Brianna the entire time to make sure wherever Brianna was, Tamra wasn't facing the same direction and risking eye contact. According to Tamra, Vicki was the one that asked her to stop talking to Brianna. Tamra avoiding her at the party could have been seen as out of respect for Vicki's wishes as Brianna is her daughter. But then claiming that she went looking to say hi to Brianna later on and she had already left sounds like Tamra was creating an excuse for why she didn't go over.

I'm glad that Eddie made the effort to go over to Brianna and welcome her and say hi to the kids.

[ButterQueen]

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I went through menopause and didn't gain any weight. Neither did any of my friends. We ate the same as always and exercised 5 days a week. Blaming weight gain on menopause is an excuse and a cop out.

**gets soap box**

I'm glad you and your friends escaped menopause hell, but the struggle is real.  To be so flippant is a disservice to women everywhere who suffer from it's consequences.  I am one of those women, and reading this crushed my soul.  

[slitz]

I just can't quit this show.  I said I was going to once it was confirmed Heather was leaving and Kelly was staying but once again, I've been sucked into the hellhole that is RHOC.  

So my own take on this episode...both Shannon and Lydia were to blame for how quickly their conversation deteriorated.  Lydia should NOT have brought up Vicky at all since she was just meeting Shannon for the first time.  It was sloppy and just plain stupid.  I have no doubt that it was producer driven but for christ sakes, Lydia, maybe wait for your next meeting!  And Shannon, no you weren't technically yelling at Lydia, but you did over react a bit and only showed just how much you are not over Ms. Vicki Gunvalson.

Can I have my next birthday party at a beer garden with all that fun unicorn themed stuff?  Jesus, I don't think I've EVER had all that stuff at a party, for myself, husband OR my own children.  Bravo had to have footed the bill for some of that.

So far I like Peggy but agree with posters who were asking about the state of her hair.  But she didn't have the worst hair of the episode...that honor goes to her sister-in-law with the half-pouf thing she had going on at the family lunch.  

Brianna - don't care

Kelly - DEFINITELY don't care

Vicki - UGH, if I have to

Meghan - What the hell Jimmy Dad Pants Edmond!!!  Stop being so dang cute with your adorable baby girl!  And I had to laugh at him asking what's for dinner in the car...my husband would have done the same thing. 

Gramballs - I don't know what to make of her these past two seasons.  She hasn't been completely atrocious and even been somewhat likable?  I feel dirty saying that because of her previous seasons.  I still don't trust her but she seems to have mellowed. a bit.  

Lydia - Sit down and shut up, please.  Twice in one episode, you have been sloppy in bringing up topics that you have obviously been told to by production.  You should have known better than to bring up Vicki to Gramballs and Shannon so quickly.  Don't be so sloppy and maybe you can stay.  

[zoeysmom]

15 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

I agree.  My husband is an MD, and he has made house calls.  This has been blown way out of proportion.  

I am kind of at a loss here maybe you can help.  I don't understand how anyone can file a complaint against a doctor based on him allegedly prescribing an IV to rehydrate a sick person.  I would think the complaint would fall flat on its face without any attorney involvement as soon as the investigation agency contacted Dr. Dubrow and he states he never saw Brooks as a patient or prescribed him anything, or even offered medical advice.  The complaint would be tossed.  Hard to prosecute when nothing happened.  I thought the salient point of the story is Vicki was "fabricating" as in making up a story and now claims that she is being vilified because she never lied or put forth any claims about Brooks having cancer. 

[ButterQueen]

Just now, zoeysmom said:

I am kind of at a loss here maybe you can help.  I don't understand how anyone can file a complaint against a doctor based on him allegedly prescribing an IV to rehydrate a sick person.  I would think the complaint would fall flat on its face without any attorney involvement as soon as the investigation agency contacted Dr. Dubrow and he states he never saw Brooks as a patient or prescribed him anything, or even offered medical advice.  The complaint would be tossed.  Hard to prosecute when nothing happened.  I thought the salient point of the story is Vicki was "fabricating" as in making up a story and now claims that she is being vilified because she never lied or put forth any claims about Brooks having cancer. 

Well, my DH laughed at the notion.  So, you are right on!!!

[Snarky McSnarky]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Do we know where this season's big trip will be?

Iceland, I believe.

[Normades]

1 hour ago, RHJunkie said:

According to Tamra, Vicki was the one that asked her to stop talking to Brianna. Tamra avoiding her at the party could have been seen as out of respect for Vicki's wishes as Brianna is her daughter. But then claiming that she went looking to say hi to Brianna later on and she had already left sounds like Tamra was creating an excuse for why she didn't go over.

The thing that bothers me about this is that when Vicki was dating Brooks and Brianna was upset, she was in close contact with Tamara, but now that Vicki is dating someone Brianna approves of, she's fine with cutting Tamara out.  I have no doubt that Brianna is aware of Vicki's request that Tamara not contact her.  Which also begs the question, why is Brianna allowing her mother to make such a request, considering she is a grown ass woman and can decide who her own friends are?  Oops, I forgot Brianna wants that Bravo paycheck and to stay in mommy's good graces.  I hate to be on Tamara's side of this, but Brianna could have spoken to Tamara and cleared the air, rather than sitting back while Vicki manages her life.  I think she showed up at that party for screen time and nothing else.  Plus, Tamara was supportive of Brianna during the Brooks relationship and while Brianna was in the hospital, so her allowing Vicki to tell people they cannot talk to her is just mean and petty. 

[diadochokinesis]

2 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

**gets soap box**

I'm glad you and your friends escaped menopause hell, but the struggle is real.  To be so flippant is a disservice to women everywhere who suffer from it's consequences.  I am one of those women, and reading this crushed my soul.  

It also discounts that several women experience onset of hypothyroidism around the same time as menopause which wreaks havok on your metabolism.  

[VedaPierce]

21 hours ago, FozzyBear said:

I was probably the only person who didn't like Shannon ever and didn't really feel she was being played by Heather and Terry. Tamara a little but only to hide the fact that Tamara was gossiping about Shannon and David. I don't think Heather was nice to Shannon(she truly wasn't) but I think she was also flummoxed at the way EVERYTHING with Shannon hits defcon 10. I think Heather got a bad impression of Shannon as being sort of a baby and just kept getting annoyed at Shannon's inability to deal with any stresser at all. She wasn't behaving particularly well toward Shannon, but Shannon wasn't very nice to Heather that season either.("Shannon the nice person" has always puzzled me. She has a mean streak and I've never understood why she doesn't get called out on it more) I always thought they just didn't like each other. And, IMO, if you're not used to being around such an emotional person, Shannon can kind of come across as unhinged. She always strikes me as bat shit crazy. I'd have a hard time with her too. Even her behavior in this episode, it doesn't actually strike me as unusual. Shannon's always this way in my mind. 

I never cared for her from the beginning either. When has she ever been so nice? Remember her first phone call with Meghan? She starts charities, doncha know! Immediate fight over nothing. Weird. And I think a lot of her laughter has a falseness to it. Like when she tells a joke and laughs a little too hard. I also remember her going after someone online via Facebook feed. Her hostage/husband was along for the ride. She's an over-reactor and over sensative. Everyone must tread very carefully around Shannon at all times. If I was just meeting her for the first time on this show, I would be terrified and go out of my way to watch every word I said to her. 

[PhilMarlowe2]

Lord knows I don't like Tamra, but she clearly stated that she deleted Brianna from social media because it upset her to see constant reminders/photos of Vicki and brought her back to an angry place. I actually totally get this - I've also un-friended people from social media because I found their posts actively made me feel worse or brought up old stuff that was not productive to feel. At a certain point, you have to take care of yourself.

[RHJunkie]

1 hour ago, Normades said:

The thing that bothers me about this is that when Vicki was dating Brooks and Brianna was upset, she was in close contact with Tamara, but now that Vicki is dating someone Brianna approves of, she's fine with cutting Tamara out.  I have no doubt that Brianna is aware of Vicki's request that Tamara not contact her.  Which also begs the question, why is Brianna allowing her mother to make such a request, considering she is a grown ass woman and can decide who her own friends are?  Oops, I forgot Brianna wants that Bravo paycheck and to stay in mommy's good graces.  I hate to be on Tamara's side of this, but Brianna could have spoken to Tamara and cleared the air, rather than sitting back while Vicki manages her life.  I think she showed up at that party for screen time and nothing else.  Plus, Tamara was supportive of Brianna during the Brooks relationship and while Brianna was in the hospital, so her allowing Vicki to tell people they cannot talk to her is just mean and petty. 

I think Brianna and Tamra were so aligned in their hatred for Brooks that it wouldn't have mattered if Vicki forbade it, I think Brianna and Tamra would have continued to talk about it. It's not like they met up a lot on screen to talk about it but they did talk to each other when they were in common places together and they would communicate off-screen about it. I'm assuming Vicki is drawing a hard line because Tamra's issue with her is not because of who she's dating anymore, but with Vicki herself. Between  the cancer stuff, Vicki claiming that Shannon is a battered wife and that Tamra is Eddie's beard, Vicki took the situation to a whole other level where it stopped being about Vicki being around bad company and is now about Vicki herself being bad company.

For all the talk and offense that Vicki wants to take about the others calling her a liar and what not, she admitted that she did fabricate things to protect Brooks - fabricating is lying but it seems to completely fall on deaf ears to her because she's so busy claiming that she's not a liar.  She insists that she didn't know that his cancer was a lie but that she fabricated some instances to protect Brooks so that the ladies would get off his back because she felt that they shouldn't have been questioning her and Brooks but rather showing sympathy and bringing her casseroles. Because Vicki has gone on record and damaged her credentials for Brooks, no one is willing to believe that she was an innocent bystander to his scam - one that earned them both a lot of screen time during their time together on the show. Maybe Vicki is telling the truth about but it just shows how delusional she is that she doesn't understand that the one person that has tarnished her reputation is herself - not Tamra, Shannon or Meghan.

[teapot]

21 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

True, but it can take a couple of years and many trials.  I speak from experience.  I do feel bad for Shannon.

you know, as am I.  And I expressed concern to my doctor and her nurse, "you know, I am scared to death that I am going to accidentally kill my husband because I AM AWFUL."

and they laughed.  and  I told him that he was on his own...

sometimes when I stand in direct sunlight, I end up looking like a candle.  The struggle is so.  fucking.  real.

[film noire]

3 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

**gets soap box**

I'm glad you and your friends escaped menopause hell, but the struggle is real.  To be so flippant is a disservice to women everywhere who suffer from it's consequences.  I am one of those women, and reading this crushed my soul.  

{applause}

Edited July 20, 2017 by film noire

[Former Nun]

4 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

I'm glad you and your friends escaped menopause hell, but the struggle is real.  To be so flippant is a disservice to women everywhere who suffer from it's consequences.  I am one of those women, and reading this crushed my soul.  

I'd never had a weight problem in my life (unless "too thin" as a teenager counts).  I had a hysterectomy at age 32 and was forever plagued with weight gain under circumstances that were no different from those before the hysterectomy.   Women's hormones are tricky.   Luckily I didn't suffer any of the emotional problems so many others do.  I support you, Butterqueen.

[Petunia13]

3 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Iceland, I believe.

Will Vicki scream and cause avalanche to shake again? Poor Iceland. 

[ButterQueen]

46 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

I'd never had a weight problem in my life (unless "too thin" as a teenager counts).  I had a hysterectomy at age 32 and was forever plagued with weight gain under circumstances that were no different from those before the hysterectomy.   Women's hormones are tricky.   Luckily I didn't suffer any of the emotional problems so many others do.  I support you, Butterqueen.

Thank you.  I rarely left the house for 2 years because of the hot flashes, sweating and clothes being too tight.  And I won't even talk about my mood swings.  It was all so foreign to me.  I never had problem periods or pregnancies and I was always thin.  One of the first things my now 4 year old granddaughter learned to do, was fan me with a book and wipe my face with a tissue.  ❤️It was a nightmare that thankfully is under control.  But, it took a lot of work to get myself back to a woman I loved.

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Lord knows I don't like Tamra, but she clearly stated that she deleted Brianna from social media because it upset her to see constant reminders/photos of Vicki and brought her back to an angry place. I actually totally get this - I've also un-friended people from social media because I found their posts actively made me feel worse or brought up old stuff that was not productive to feel. At a certain point, you have to take care of yourself.

I agree. It makes sense and I don't think there was anything wrong with it. But I do think she could have given Brianna a heads up, explained that it wasn't personal. She went out of her way to stay friendly with Brianna when she wanted a co-conspirator on the Expose Brooks Express. Now that that lowlife is gone for good she is suddenly giving her the cold shoulder? I'm not saying they should be buddies; the situation is too awkward. But I think she owed Brianna more of an explanation, that's all. And she could speak to her cordially at events. 

[teapot]

17 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

I agree. It makes sense and I don't think there was anything wrong with it. But I do think she could have given Brianna a heads up, explained that it wasn't personal. She went out of her way to stay friendly with Brianna when she wanted a co-conspirator on the Expose Brooks Express. Now that that lowlife is gone for good she is suddenly giving her the cold shoulder? I'm not saying they should be buddies; the situation is too awkward. But I think she owed Brianna more of an explanation, that's all. And she could speak to her cordially at events. 

right?  I would've had no problem going up to Brianna & saying hi & giving her a hug & chit-chatting for a second "thanks for coming, snacks over there, hope you guys have a good time!" considering Tamra really has nothing against her, that makes no sense.

I'm sure that Brianna is no stranger to people being on the outs with Vicki!!!

[Pretty5Vacant]

9 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

Somebody ring me when the beaten dead cancer scandal horse gets buried......sigh.  

Thankyou, shit's old already

[HunterHunted]

On 7/20/2017 at 10:06 AM, zoeysmom said:

I am kind of at a loss here maybe you can help.  I don't understand how anyone can file a complaint against a doctor based on him allegedly prescribing an IV to rehydrate a sick person.  I would think the complaint would fall flat on its face without any attorney involvement as soon as the investigation agency contacted Dr. Dubrow and he states he never saw Brooks as a patient or prescribed him anything, or even offered medical advice.  The complaint would be tossed.  Hard to prosecute when nothing happened.  I thought the salient point of the story is Vicki was "fabricating" as in making up a story and now claims that she is being vilified because she never lied or put forth any claims about Brooks having cancer. 

Yes, the points are that Vicki lied, but is now claiming that she never did and her lie could have resulted in a regulatory investigation of Terry. The reason that the lie might have resulted in an investigation is because in the lie Terry is explicitly not Brooks' doctor. Brooks is so sick that he contacts Terry. Terry doesn't examine Brooks himself, review Brooks' medical records, or consult with Brooks' doctor when he orders the IV. So Terry gives a prescription when he had no clue what was going on with Brooks medically in that moment.

No one thinks Terry would have lost his license, but even having to answer the investigator's questions is an unnecessary hassle that Vicki is also completely remorseless about because she wanted sympathy and a casserole. The lies were bad enough, but it was obnoxious to insert Terry into this nonsense.

Edited July 21, 2017 by HunterHunted

[zoeysmom]

Didn't Briana make a semi big deal last year of "quitting" the show because she had had enough of things?  Maybe it was the year before.  I don't see where Briana has a lot of social media.  I can't imagine why anyone would care if they were unfollowed on social media by Tamra Judge or anyone else.  Nor do I think anyone has to justify why they unfollow someone.

[Maharincess]

Has there ever been one scene Briana is in where she's not whining and complaining about something?  If the party will be "so awkward", don't fucking go dumb ass. 

And since people seem to have no problem skinny shaming Lydia, I can say that Briana looks like an unkempt, fat blob. 

[FlyingEgret]

On 7/19/2017 at 4:51 PM, Juneau Gal said:

Lydia's magazine name, Nobleman, and her description of its message tells me exactly who Lydia is and it has very little to do with the arm waving, peacemaking, Jesus loving person she portrays herself as. She is as phony as the day is long. One positive I will say about her though, for better or worse the girl is not intimidated. We saw that her first season dealing with Slade and this season coming on like a wrecking ball. 

Can anyone explain why the photo shoot took place in front of drab, concrete gray walls?  If they don't want gorgeous scenery and real estate in their magazine, I have a basement available for rent for the next issue...

[dosodog]

On 7/18/2017 at 0:01 PM, LIMOM said:

The only positive one on this show is Eddie. 

I don't know if Tamra really changed but if she did, I give 100% credit to that dude. 

He is too good for that mess!

I have asked this question repeatedly.  I don't get why Eddie is with Tamra.  He's no drama, she's all drama. 

No one has ever answered the question.  If we may have potentially solved the Amelia Earhart mystery, why can't we figure out Eddie and Tamra?

On 7/18/2017 at 5:47 PM, PhilMarlowe2 said:

I found Shannon excitedly proclaiming "I'm going to have a nacho!" in the background while Tamra awkwardly tries to have a "serious" conversation with Lydia so unintentionally hilarious. Not because of Shannon's weight, just because it was funny.

Hilarious! I get it! I gave up my love of Mexican Coca Cola in a glass bottle as a daily drink.  Now when I have the occasional one, just like Shannon, I joyously and defiantly announce to no one in particular that I'm having one.

It's like a middle finger to eating right.

On 7/19/2017 at 2:22 PM, HunterHunted said:

 

Bravo has profit sharing agreements with the housewives. They added the provision to their contracts after they got blindsided by Skinnygirl. However, I imagine the profit sharing provision is contingent on Bravo and NBC Universal actually wanting to be associated with the product because I can imagine them wanting to divest themselves if they had been getting a percentage from something like those Wen products. No one wants to be a defendant in a class action lawsuit. Every one of Vicki's products has seemed terrible and sketchy. Bravo ran a disclaimer in the end credits for Kill All Cancer. I imagine Bravo passed on the detox stuff. 

Something like those Wen products?  Hey now!  The vast majority of us who use Wen, didn't suffer hair loss.

I?  Am grateful to not be in that small percentage as my hair is more lovely and luxurious than Kyle Richard's hair.

Yes, yes.  I am bragging.  My hair is beautiful. I rock the Countess Luann cut better than she does.  Bethenny would go out and get extensions because her hair would look so limp and lifeless compared to mine.

Summer Honey Peach and Spring Orange Blossom for life!  

[ghoulina]

20 minutes ago, dosodog said:

I have asked this question repeatedly.  I don't get why Eddie is with Tamra.  He's no drama, she's all drama. 

No one has ever answered the question.  If we may have potentially solved the Amelia Earhart mystery, why can't we figure out Eddie and Tamra?

It's almost as confusing as Gary/Jerry/Larry/Terry Gergich and his wife Gail. 

[Avon.Blakes7]

23 minutes ago, dosodog said:

I have asked this question repeatedly.  I don't get why Eddie is with Tamra.  He's no drama, she's all drama. 

No one has ever answered the question.  If we may have potentially solved the Amelia Earhart mystery, why can't we figure out Eddie and Tamra?

Hilarious! I get it! I gave up my love of Mexican Coca Cola in a glass bottle as a daily drink.  Now when I have the occasional one, just like Shannon, I joyously and defiantly announce to no one in particular that I'm having one.

It's like a middle finger to eating right.

Something like those Wen products?  Hey now!  The vast majority of us who use Wen, didn't suffer hair loss.

I?  Am grateful to not be in that small percentage as my hair is more lovely and luxurious than Kyle Richard's hair.

Yes, yes.  I am bragging.  My hair is beautiful. I rock the Countess Luann cut better than she does.  Bethenny would go out and get extensions because her hair would look so limp and lifeless compared to mine.

Summer Honey Peach and Spring Orange Blossom for life!  

I don't watch the "London" show, but how does it compare to the hair of that one woman who should be doing commercials? It's quite lovely without a lot of work going into it! When I think of hair I instantly think of Farrah Fawcett even though extensions had to be installed! After her, this woman from England I saw briefly on Andy's show one night a couple years ago! It seemed to be quite luxurious on it's own! ;-)

Edited July 21, 2017 by Avon.Blakes7

[Mindthinkr]

@dosodog oh, now you have me wanting to got into my fridge and pop the top off a Mexican CocaCola! I've been saving it for a special occasion but since I read that I can't get it off of my mind. 

[athousandclowns]

On July 19, 2017 at 5:49 PM, WireWrap said:

But has your husband gone to a non patients home and given them an IV without talking to their Dr.s first, which is what Vicki claimed happened? All it would take is a viewer making a complaint to them about it and they would legally be required to investigate Terry. 

It was ridiculousl at the time. Was Dr Terry suppose to run by his office/ operating room pick up a couple of bags with sodium and potassium and IV nausea Meds  and go to Vicki's?  Go to the ER like your own oncologist would advise and who would call ahead  with instructions. Oh wait he had no oncologist or hospital with his records.  I know of oncologist that have made house calls. 

[dosodog]

5 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

@dosodog oh, now you have me wanting to got into my fridge and pop the top off a Mexican CocaCola! I've been saving it for a special occasion but since I read that I can't get it off of my mind. 

Don't forget to yell out, defiantly, I'M HAVING A COCA COLA!

[PhilMarlowe2]

1 hour ago, dosodog said:

Don't forget to yell out, defiantly, I'M HAVING A COCA COLA!

But make sure to wait until someone is trying to have a serious conversation nearby for the full Shannon effect!

[walnutqueen]

7 hours ago, dosodog said:

I have asked this question repeatedly.  I don't get why Eddie is with Tamra.  He's no drama, she's all drama. 

No one has ever answered the question.  If we may have potentially solved the Amelia Earhart mystery, why can't we figure out Eddie and Tamra?

Stockholm Syndrome.

[diadochokinesis]

8 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

@dosodog oh, now you have me wanting to got into my fridge and pop the top off a Mexican CocaCola! I've been saving it for a special occasion but since I read that I can't get it off of my mind. 

OMG. I have gotten so used to Coke with real sugar (it is the standard where I live) that I fear what American Coke will taste like when I first go back. No fancy glass bottles for me though. I just have a small 150 mL can. 

[swankie]

On ‎7‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 9:34 PM, Mindthinkr said:

Didnt like the shade David thru onto Shannon re: eating bread. A lot of people I know dealing with weight issues only have a harder time when others try to control their diet. They rebel and eat more or become more self loathing because of the comments. 

I can only imagine how many times Shannon asks David, "Do I look fat in this?"  He's probably sick to death of her talking about it.  And the fact that she blames her weight gain on Vicki just shows that Shannon never owns her own shit.  Vicki isn't force feeding you the food Shannon.  Your "best friend" Tamra owns a gym.  Why don't you go there and work out?    I'm sure they could use the money.  Heh!

 

On ‎7‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 10:09 PM, LilaFowler said:

This is Shannon's first season 2.0. Heather did the same thing that Lydia is doing: pushing Shannon's buttons, telling her to calm down and stop yelling (when she really isn't), etc. Next week looks insane. I'm not sure if it's healthy for Shannon to be on this show anymore.

That's what's different!  Where is Heather?  Did they quit the show?  (Not that I really care.  I couldn't stand the Dubrows!)

Edited July 22, 2017 by swankie

[IKnowRight]

On 7/19/2017 at 7:51 PM, bagger said:

Your post just made me think of something I'm not sure I heard. Did Lydia say the vicki told her or that she heard that Shannon was mean to "new" girl's?

I'm not sure.  When Lydia was on Watch What Happens Live with Vicki recently a caller asked Lydia something about Shannon being mean to the new girls...I wasn't paying close attention.  Does anyone else recall?

 

 I thought it was odd given that I thought Vicki was the Queen of hazing the new girls...except Kelly because she had no HW posse left at that point in time!  Shannon usually reacts to the new girls comments but I don't think she goes into meeting them with the intent of being mean, that is Vicki's job!

[Mindthinkr]

4 hours ago, swankie said:

I can only imagine how many times Shannon asks David, "Do I look fat in this?"  He's probably sick to death of her talking about it.  And the fact that she blames her weight gain on Vicki just shows that Shannon never owns her own shit.  Vicki isn't force feeding you the food Shannon.  Your "best friend" Tamra owns a gym.  Why don't you go there and work out?    I'm sure they could use the money.  Heh!

 

That's what's different!  Where is Heather?  Did they quit the show?  (Not that I really care.  I couldn't stand the Dubrows!)

Yes Heather quit the show. They've added a new uber rich girl Peggy to take her spot to make sure we get some luxury eye candy. 

I'm sure there are a lot of things that Shannon could do but I feel she's depressed and therefore doesn't have the motivation to do more than she is at this time. (When she figures this out she'll probably begin a herbal cure of St John's wort...there Shannon...saved you the cost of going to Dr Moon). The heavy drinking only adds to her weight and depression. 

[crgirl412]

I'm out this season due to Vicki and Kelly.  :(    

Kadooz to all of you who are able to stomach it all.  I'm serious.  

I'll be on here giving likes and maybe comment since I'll basically know what's going on. 

[ghoulina]

11 hours ago, swankie said:

Your "best friend" Tamra owns a gym.  Why don't you go there and work out?    I'm sure they could use the money.  Heh!

She did once. It wasn't pretty. Homegirl has no center of balance. Also, I think she pees herself when she works out? LOL, I'm clumsy as hell and trickle a bit after my 3 kids. But nothing stops me from working out 5 days a week. Just get some videos to do in home where no one can see you!

[zoeysmom]

1 minute ago, ghoulina said:

She did once. It wasn't pretty. Homegirl has no center of balance. Also, I think she pees herself when she works out? LOL, I'm clumsy as hell and trickle a bit after my 3 kids. But nothing stops me from working out 5 days a week. Just get some videos to do in home where no one can see you!

Shannon has a personal trainer closer to home.  I believe Tamra's gym is for the devotee not a beginner.  I think she only pees when she runs.  Shannon expectations of working out are way too high.  She is expecting it to be both beneficial and enjoyable.  She will always be disappointed if she thinks she will enjoy it. 

[dosodog]

26 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

She did once. It wasn't pretty. Homegirl has no center of balance. Also, I think she pees herself when she works out? LOL, I'm clumsy as hell and trickle a bit after my 3 kids. But nothing stops me from working out 5 days a week. Just get some videos to do in home where no one can see you!

Or dance. It's what I started to do.  I already walk Doso 2 hours, but since a camping trip where we decided to have Saturday night dance party, I dance around the house.

I just go Alexa, play Groove is in the Heart and start shaking the booty. Bossa Nova Baby and the Love Shack. Anything that moves and grooves.  Anything to get my tush, wiggling.

Next thing you know, your heart rate is up and you just did 3 minutes of cardiovascular .

It took 4 inches off my waist in 5 weeks.  That and giving up soda as a daily drink.

It's not a diet.  It's a lifestyle change. 

Dance Shannon.  Dance!

[PhilMarlowe2]

Tamra mentioned in an interview that she and Shannon live 30 min away from each other so it's not really an accessible workout situation.

[Dirtybubble]

13 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

They've added a new uber rich girl Peggy to take her spot to make sure we get some luxury eye candy. 

I didn't like Peggy's husband announcing in front of the guests how many carats were in the jewelry he got for her.  This couple just seems tacky to me.  And a half black half white car blarf!!

[ITALIA]

12 hours ago, crgirl412 said:

I'm out this season due to Vicki and Kelly.  :(    

Kadooz to all of you who are able to stomach it all.  I'm serious.  

I'll be on here giving likes and maybe comment since I'll basically know what's going on. 

Both of them are MAJOR bitches, total losers, and ugly on the outside and the inside.

1 hour ago, Dirtybubble said:

I didn't like Peggy's husband announcing in front of the guests how many carats were in the jewelry he got for her.  This couple just seems tacky to me.  And a half black half white car blarf!!

I don't like Piggy either or her husband DICKO. She and her husband - major braggarts and tacky.

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[Former Nun]

22 hours ago, diadochokinesis said:

OMG. I have gotten so used to Coke with real sugar (it is the standard where I live) that I fear what American Coke will taste like when I first go back. No fancy glass bottles for me though. I just have a small 150 mL can. 

COSTCO carries Mexican Coke...at least in AZ.

On 7/21/2017 at 0:44 PM, dosodog said:

I have asked this question repeatedly.  I don't get why Eddie is with Tamra.  He's no drama, she's all drama. 

No one has ever answered the question.  If we may have potentially solved the Amelia Earhart mystery, why can't we figure out Eddie and Tamra?

Perhaps Eddie has a much nicer lifestyle now.  Previously he was a clerk (or something that required no degree) at his family's* law practice.   Maybe the BRAVO paycheck is more than he ever made.

*His adopted father?  His mentor?

[dosodog]

It's just......I get the physical attraction, on the outside, Tamra is very attractive. 

 But until recently, her inside beauty was very ugly.

Eddie is handsome and seemed to have a good career.  He's no drama, principled and confident. He doesn't come across as a fame whore or needs to be the center of attention or on camera, but affable enough to fulfill his onscreen obligations gracefully and with no damage to his reputation. 

I mean I know opposites attract, but come on!  There were no beautiful women out there who like a low key life?

For the record, I don't lay awake thinking about this.  My level of obsession is reserved to when I see Eddie in an episode.  My mind.  It's boggled. 

[PhilMarlowe2]

I think it's important to remember that Tamra is a master manipulator who tells people what they want to hear (which is why she so often gets into trouble - her mouth can never stop flapping). I'm sure she showed her best side to Eddie when they first met, plus she's attractive, she can be witty at times, she has the sparkle of minor celebrity, and she's probably good in bed. I could also believe that Tamra is calmer in her everyday life. I'm sure the show brings out the worst parts of her personality.

Edited July 23, 2017 by PhilMarlowe2

[zoeysmom]

48 minutes ago, dosodog said:

It's just......I get the physical attraction, on the outside, Tamra is very attractive. 

 But until recently, her inside beauty was very ugly.

Eddie is handsome and seemed to have a good career.  He's no drama, principled and confident. He doesn't come across as a fame whore or needs to be the center of attention or on camera, but affable enough to fulfill his onscreen obligations gracefully and with no damage to his reputation. 

I mean I know opposites attract, but come on!  There were no beautiful women out there who like a low key life?

For the record, I don't lay awake thinking about this.  My level of obsession is reserved to when I see Eddie in an episode.  My mind.  It's boggled. 

 

32 minutes ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

I think it's important to remember that Tamra is a master manipulator who tells people what they want to hear (which is why she so often gets into trouble - her mouth can never stop flapping). I'm sure she showed her best side to Eddie when they first met, plus she's attractive, she can be witty at times, she has the sparkle of minor celebrity, and she's probably good in bed. I could also believe that Tamra is calmer in her everyday life. I'm sure the show brings out the worst parts of her personality.

My vote is Eddie enjoys the fact he can have a business on Tamra's dime.  It doesn't hurt that she is also into age group body building bikini competitions.

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The thing that bothers me about this is that when Vicki was dating Brooks and Brianna was upset, she was in close contact with Tamara, but now that Vicki is dating someone Brianna approves of, she's fine with cutting Tamara out.  I have no doubt that Brianna is aware of Vicki's request that Tamara not contact her.  Which also begs the question, why is Brianna allowing her mother to make such a request, considering she is a grown ass woman and can decide who her own friends are?  Oops, I forgot Brianna wants that Bravo paycheck and to stay in mommy's good graces.  I hate to be on Tamara's side of this, but Brianna could have spoken to Tamara and cleared the air, rather than sitting back while Vicki manages her life.  I think she showed up at that party for screen time and nothing else.  Plus, Tamara was supportive of Brianna during the Brooks relationship and while Brianna was in the hospital, so her allowing Vicki to tell people they cannot talk to her is just mean and petty. 

I thought it was Tamra who cut Brianna because she couldn't stand to see pictures of Vicki?  

[jaync]

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I found Shannon excitedly proclaiming "I'm going to have a nacho!" in the background while Tamra awkwardly tries to have a "serious" conversation with Lydia so unintentionally hilarious. Not because of Shannon's weight, just because it was funny.

Stuff like that is why I can't quit Shannon. She makes me laugh/entertains me, which is all I ask of these heffas.

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Shannon's two younger daughters look so much alike.

They're twins. (The difference in their stature is a little confusing, though.)

Is Lock still jamming?

[Former Nun]

9 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

My vote is Eddie enjoys the fact he can have a business on Tamra's dime.  It doesn't hurt that she is also into age group body building bikini competitions.

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