The Lonely Js Club: Jana, Jason, James, Jackson & Johannah

[louannems]

Why is the silverware drawer filled with hair brushes???

I know they only use plastic eating implements, but do they groom their hair in the kitchen/dining area???

[Barb23]

I think they are trying to keep up with the Bateses who make a big celebration with their "I Love You Day."

At least the Bateses dress up & wear red.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Barb23

[crazycatlady58]

The Bates do it better . 

[Lady Edith]

12 hours ago, Baby Button Eyes said:

Yuck, their feet are always so filthy! And why do they acknowledge Valentine's Day anyway?  The kids are supposed to keep their hearts closed til courtship not figuratively scatter them around the house as if they can do it in their real lives. 

Because their first and primary love is their headship. They are to serve him as "helpmeets in training" and learn how to treat their future husband (I can't even rate the ick factor in THAT).  All others are to come second.  

This whole "giving away pieces of their hearts" is bull.  You give a piece of your heart to nearly everyone you meet.  Every relationship.  So parents don't get a piece of your heart?  Siblings?  Grandparents?  every relationship ends.  Every.  Single.  One.  Family members pass on.  Friends move on in their lives.  So by their logic, you don't lose a piece of your heart when your grandfather passes away?  

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 hour ago, Lady Edith said:

Because their first and primary love is their headship. They are to serve him as "helpmeets in training" and learn how to treat their future husband (I can't even rate the ick factor in THAT).  All others are to come second.  

This whole "giving away pieces of their hearts" is bull.  You give a piece of your heart to nearly everyone you meet.  Every relationship.  So parents don't get a piece of your heart?  Siblings?  Grandparents?  every relationship ends.  Every.  Single.  One.  Family members pass on.  Friends move on in their lives.  So by their logic, you don't lose a piece of your heart when your grandfather passes away?  

@Lady Edith, you silly girl! Injecting critical thinking into this! Don't you know that whatever His Headship says is to be accepted as truth without question? If KJB told his kids that the moon was made of green cheese, they'd accept it without question and parrot it along with the rest of their so called "learnings".

[Quilt Fairy]

On ‎2‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 10:45 AM, Lady Edith said:

This whole "giving away pieces of their hearts" is bull.  You give a piece of your heart to nearly everyone you meet.  Every relationship.  So parents don't get a piece of your heart?  Siblings?  Grandparents?  every relationship ends.  Every.  Single.  One.  Family members pass on.  Friends move on in their lives.  So by their logic, you don't lose a piece of your heart when your grandfather passes away?  

Especially when at the same time they're saying 'love doesn't divide, it multiplies', which I think was posted about Jessa having a new son.  It's logically incongruous, which I know, it's the Duggars, so what the hell do I expect, but it makes me stabby.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Duggar logic is anything but logical.

[Albanyguy]

18 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

This whole "giving away pieces of their hearts" is bull.  You give a piece of your heart to nearly everyone you meet.  Every relationship.  So parents don't get a piece of your heart?  Siblings?  Grandparents?  every relationship ends.  Every.  Single.  One.  Family members pass on.  Friends move on in their lives.  So by their logic, you don't lose a piece of your heart when your grandfather passes away?  

My guess is that they would waffle on this by claiming that the "piece of your heart" nonsense only applies to romantic love, not to love between parents and kids or among siblings (that's when you multiply instead of dividing).  Also, do you think they realize that every time they say this, we all start hearing Janis Joplin? "Take, take another little piece of my heart now, baybeeee..."

[Darknight]

On Sunday, February 05, 2017 at 7:13 AM, GeeGolly said:

I'm guessing this is old news, but the above posts piqued my interest.

Duggar Aviation LLC owned by Michelle Duggar founded in 2013.

Duggar Aviation is located in Springdale, Arkansas. This organization primarily operates in the Airports, Flying Fields, and Services business / industry within the Transportation by Air sector. This organization has been operating for approximately 4 years. Duggar Aviation is estimated to generate $130,952 in annual revenues, and employs approximately 1 people at this single location.

Under contact info this is included: Website: www.calebsreport.com. Click at you own risk.

 

Apparently JD generates $130,000 a year. A quick search through Google shows estimates of yearly costs of owning and maintaining a small plane at around $10,000. Hard to believe he may be making over $100,000 a year. 

I'd rather walk than take a plane driven by a Duggar. 

[Lady Edith]

On 2/19/2017 at 1:34 PM, Arwen Evenstar said:

@Lady Edith, you silly girl! Injecting critical thinking into this! Don't you know that whatever His Headship says is to be accepted as truth without question? If KJB told his kids that the moon was made of green cheese, they'd accept it without question and parrot it along with the rest of their so called "learnings".

D'oh!  You are right, Arwen!  UGH how could I have been so silly as to think that there is any sort of rational thinking and reality in this situation.  Better yet, how silly of me to question anything that KJB or Gothard states is Gospel.  Satan must have built a condo in my heart (complete with dining nook, in-ground swimming pool and TV lounge) and he tends to speak out of turn at times.  LOL!

[Sew Sumi]

1 hour ago, Darknight said:

I'd rather walk than take a plane driven by a Duggar. 

Now there are two pilots and the ten seat plane in addition to the second 4-seater (it appears that they traded in the first. Cessna as partial payment for the Mitsubishi (or MU). 

The MU was busy last weekend, flying both to Hattiesburg, MS and Tulsa pretty much back to back, stopping in Springdale to evidently drop off and reload someone for Tulsa at almost 11 Saturday night. 

[GeeGolly]

On 2/19/2017 at 11:45 AM, Lady Edith said:

Because their first and primary love is their headship. They are to serve him as "helpmeets in training" and learn how to treat their future husband (I can't even rate the ick factor in THAT).  All others are to come second.  

This whole "giving away pieces of their hearts" is bull.  You give a piece of your heart to nearly everyone you meet.  Every relationship.  So parents don't get a piece of your heart?  Siblings?  Grandparents?  every relationship ends.  Every.  Single.  One.  Family members pass on.  Friends move on in their lives.  So by their logic, you don't lose a piece of your heart when your grandfather passes away?  

It's just another thing they have ass backwards, IMHO. Even in reference to romantic relationships. My heart and my feelings are mine and mine alone. No one has the power to make me or break me, and if I've loved you and now don't, I'm bringing my heart and my feelings with me where I can put them to better use.

But truly I think the whole pieces of heart spiel is more about keeping your lady parts and man parts untouched until marriage, because the Duggars and folks with similar mindsets think you can't have romantic love without having sex. Wrong again.

[Darknight]

5 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Now there are two pilots and the ten seat plane in addition to the second 4-seater (it appears that they traded in the first. Cessna as partial payment for the Mitsubishi (or MU). 

The MU was busy last weekend, flying both to Hattiesburg, MS and Tulsa pretty much back to back, stopping in Springdale to evidently drop off and reload someone for Tulsa at almost 11 Saturday night. 

Doesn't Make Me Feel better. And where do you get this information? Is it online?

[BitterApple]

JD doesn't have a license to fly as a commercial pilot, correct? So are they leasing the planes out? Even for a small passenger aircraft, fueling that thing up must cost a fortune. I can't imagine tightwad Boob is opening his wallet so his family can flit about the South. 

[Absolom]

JD has actually gotten a commercial license. 

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, Darknight said:

Doesn't Make Me Feel better. And where do you get this information? Is it online?

It's on the internet if you know where to look and have the plane's tail number. I don't think we're allowed to publicly post that information here. I was curious about this new plane, so I signed up for flight alerts; I get an email everytime JD files a flight plan. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

You want the skinny? Dat Sew knows!

[Sew Sumi]

I could have posted what I knew on Saturday as it went down, but even I want to respect their privacy a bit. I AM curious what brought several Duggars to that part of MS. Jana and Mechelle (at minimum) attended the wedding of one of Clark Wilson's daughters. He's the guy who helped with much of the construction of the TTH who, last I heard, was suffering from cancer. The daughter got married in northern MS; Hattiesburg is in the southern part of the state. I'm not sure where the Wilsons are headquartered, so this could have been a visit to the Wilsons' house and the daughter got married somewhere sentimental? Who knows? The  late night flight to Tulsa? Probably flying Tabby Paine home so she can finish planning her wedding to the rapist. 

[awaken]

If this is really them just flying all over the place for fun, And they have this much spare cash and live such a jet set lifestyle, cannot believe the Dullards have the nerve to ask US to crowdfund their mission when they've put no effort into preparing or working to raise money. 

[Jeeves]

Bringing this over from one of the Counting On episode topics.

10 hours ago, sATL said:

I wonder if Jana doesn't  want to be a wife and/or mother or she's overly picky - looking for man that meets her "dreams and prayers", as opposed to meeting  a man and seeing him for what he is. I liked the rumor of Tim Tebow showing interest, but the man works on Sundays and travels. That is a no-no in their spouses. So, she probably gave him the axe for that simple reason.

 

2 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Jana never had a chance to give Tim Tebow the axe, or anything else. They never met.

I remember that rumor. @Sew Sumi and others dug up the truth. It went something like this. Tim's mother Pam appeared at some fundie oriented fundraiser, and JB and MEchelle met her. MEchelle was all burbly about it on their blog.

Then rumors popped up about Tim being a match for Jana. My theory is the rumors came from the Duggars - JB and/or Amy are my top suspects. The Duggs were riding pretty high back then and we all know that JB's ego pretty much has no limits.

Not only were the Tebows not receptive to such an idea, Tim had his representative issue a very firm statement denying that they were dating, and stating that the two had never met. My takeaway was that Tebow wouldn't touch the Duggars with the proverbial ten foot pole - and this was before Joshgate. 

 

1 hour ago, sATL said:

ok. thanks for the update. I just figured Tim didn't past the Duggar "test" - which we know now is at least document that Ben/Derrick/Jeremy had to complete.

It's more like the Duggars didn't pass the "test" of being anybody that Tim Tebow would ever want to know or be seen with. I mean, the dude didn't even handle the "I've never met Jana Duggar" statement himself. He had his representative issue it - and it left no room for speculation that maybe someday they might meet or the Duggars are great Christians and so . . . .

I saw Mr. Tebow in action when he was with the Broncos. The dude is all about the publicity. Plenty of players give game tickets to "regular" people or people undergoing some struggles. But Tebow made sure that when HE did that, the press was informed and there were photo opps of him on the sidelines with the beneficiaries of his generous Christly charity. Lots of players pray on the sidelines at a game, but Tebow was the master of ostentatious and media-noted prayer, moving a little away from the group and kneeling for the cameras. As you may surmise, the guy just grated on my last nerve. As did all the weirdness that he brought to town, a strange conflation of NFL fandom and "being a real Christian." I dunno, I didn't think God rooted for a specific team on Sundays, or if you criticized Tebow's very un-NFL style of play you were "persecuting a fine Christian man!" But a lot of very vocal fans did. Sheesh. I was SO glad when he took his Christian PR circus to the East Coast. 

The idea of JB shoving a 50 page questionnaire at Tim Tebow, with instructions that it must be completed and reviewed before he could get to know any Duggar daughter, is hilarious. I'd pay to see that little scene, lol!!!! It would be more like JB chasing Tim down some airport hallway waving his papers. And we know who'd win that race. Heh.

Edited March 1, 2017 by Jeeves

[BitterApple]

37 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

 I was SO glad when he took his Christian PR circus to the East Coast..

Patriots fan here who was NOT happy when he showed up in Foxboro to try out for the team. Thank God that little experiment came to an end quickly.

As for Jana, how humiliating. It's bad enough she's an object of pity. Can you imagine a famous guy releasing a P.R. statement to tell the world he's not dating you? Talk about being dissed.

[Churchhoney]

5 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Patriots fan here who was NOT happy when he showed up in Foxboro to try out for the team. Thank God that little experiment came to an end quickly.

As for Jana, how humiliating. It's bad enough she's an object of pity. Can you imagine a famous guy releasing a P.R. statement to tell the world he's not dating you? Talk about being dissed.

So Christian of him, too. 

[Jeeves]

I can't diss him for the statement. He didn't say anything negative about Jana or the Duggars, just corrected the false rumors that were swirling. And didn't say anything that could be construed as encouraging further rumors. 

After all, he didn't start the rumors and I think he had a girlfriend at the time.

[Churchhoney]

On 2/22/2017 at 7:00 PM, BitterApple said:

JD doesn't have a license to fly as a commercial pilot, correct? So are they leasing the planes out? Even for a small passenger aircraft, fueling that thing up must cost a fortune. I can't imagine tightwad Boob is opening his wallet so his family can flit about the South. 

JD now has a commercial license. But I'm sure they've always rented the planes out. When people were tracking the two original planes there was always ooohing and aahhing about these Duggar 'Mystery Trips" where some plane would be sitting in an airfield in Kentucky for a couple weeks or had gone to thus and such place where nobody knew of a Duggar connection and people speculated about which Duggar? Where could they have gone? But I'm sure most of those trips were somebody else renting those planes. 

In my opinion there''s no way that they don't rent the planes out when they aren't using them. That's a perfectly common thing to do. Many many licensed pilots don't own their own planes at any given time.  And there's no way that eye-on-the-buck Jim Bob wouldn't be renting his out. Maintaining a plane is pricey. You can't just park it in your driveway and take off across the back yard. 

Although I'd be sort of surprised if Jim Bob had never suggested trying that, come to think of it. 

48 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I can't diss him for the statement. He didn't say anything negative about Jana or the Duggars, just corrected the false rumors that were swirling. And didn't say anything that could be construed as encouraging further rumors. 

After all, he didn't start the rumors and I think he had a girlfriend at the time.

I'll take your word for it. Don't think I ever saw the statement. I was just getting the impression that it must have come across as a wipe-this-off-my-shoe kind of tone! ..... Guessing that's also because that's kind of my general impression of Tebow, though! 

Edited March 1, 2017 by Churchhoney

[ariel]

54 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Maintaining a plane is pricey. You can't just park it in your driveway and take off across the back yard. 

Although I'd be sort of surprised if Jim Bob had never suggested trying that, come to think of it. 

 

If Boob could park that plane on his property,  he would.  He does live in one of those states that doesn't like safety regulations. 

Edited March 1, 2017 by ariel

[Sew Sumi]

I get an alert anytime the 10 seater goes anywhere. It has sat in Springdale after quite an eventful weekend almost two weeks ago. There was no way it was rented out, as the plane made a stop in Springdale, presumably to debark passengers before boarding someone else and flying on to Tulsa within maybe an hour's stop that same night. THAT was a Duggar Aviation special. 

[SMama]

@Sew Sumi were you the person who mentioned the 10 seater's accident record? Why would anyone invest on that particular airplane? Wait because Jesus protects Boob and his loin fruit even on a proven unsafe vessel. I'm really curious as to other than Jesus what they considered.

Edited March 2, 2017 by SMama

[Sew Sumi]

I posted the wikipedia link to the type of plane they bought. Mitusibishi something something. I only skimmed the entry. But that model of plane is 40 years old! I'd be scared shitless to fly in that tin bucket, even if it does have 10 seats. 

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, SMama said:

 I'm really curious as to other than Jesus what they considered.

Price.

[BitterApple]

4 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

I posted the wikipedia link to the type of plane they bought. Mitusibishi something something. I only skimmed the entry. But that model of plane is 40 years old! I'd be scared shitless to fly in that tin bucket, even if it does have 10 seats. 

Not to mention JD isn't exactly a Delta pilot with ten thousand flight hours under his belt. So you have an old plane with a bad safety record and a Duggar at the controls? Sounds like an episode of Why Planes Crash waiting to happen. 

Edited March 2, 2017 by BitterApple

[Booey]

16 hours ago, SMama said:

@Sew Sumi were you the person who mentioned the 10 seater's accident record? Why would anyone invest on that particular airplane? Wait because Jesus protects Boob and his loin fruit even on a proven unsafe vessel. I'm really curious as to other than Jesus what they considered.

Just needed to say:

EEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWW

I'm trying to eat lunch here. :-(  :-(  :-(

[SMama]

Sorry, did not mean to offend anyone.

[Jeeves]

I've used "loinfruit" a lot and I don't think it's a gross term. 

[Marshmallow Mollie]

I can be oddly prudish and it doesn't offend me. 

But when I read loin fruit, I thought of the phrase low hanging fruit which then made me think of balls which then made me think of Jeremy's nuts and berries. Gross.

[Arwen Evenstar]

19 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I've used "loinfruit" a lot and I don't think it's a gross term. 

Doesn't it say in the Bible: "the fruit of my loins"?

Ive heard people's kids referred to as "loin fruit" and the more vulgar "crotch fruit". 

[GeeGolly]

When I hear loin fruit I think of underwear and Toucan Sam and I don't even watch that much TV, nor does anyone I know wear Fruit of the Loom or eat Fruit Loops. I blame this squarely on my parents for exposing me to the big bad world.

[Booey]

Sorry bout that, I didn't make that post in the best way. I'm not offended by 'loin fruit' at all! I didn't recall hearing that one before, and actually thought it was funny in a gross kinda way. Since I was catching up on my lunch break that's why I thought I'd reply.

I really enjoy the multitude of phrases "all y'all" come up with. Highlights of my day. :-)

[Arwen Evenstar]

Just now, Booey said:

Sorry bout that, I didn't make that post in the best way. I'm not offended by 'loin fruit' at all! I didn't recall hearing that one before, and actually thought it was funny in a gross kinda way. Since I was catching up on my lunch break that's why I thought I'd reply.

I really enjoy the multitude of phrases "all y'all" come up with. Highlights of my day. :-)

It's just ? 

[awaken]

Uggg, one of the FB comments (yes, I know I should never read these!!)  Re: Jana- "she's so pretty but someone has to household chores."

[SMama]

Michelle? 

[BitterApple]

The Duggar males now have to buy their own food, pick out their own clothes and wipe their own asses. Oh the humanity!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBO7r5LxtAk

[Natalie68]

11 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

The Duggar males now have to buy their own food, pick out their own clothes and wipe their own asses. Oh the humanity!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBO7r5LxtAk

This made me irrationally angry.  Because these idiots have a penis they have no involvement in their care and feeding.  I hope none of them find a wife and Jana flees the coop.  Would serve these fuckers right for expecting the women to do everything for them.  In this day and age...SMH  I think its someone else's turn to scrape the skidmarks out of their underpants.  I would love for Jenny to lead a strike and not do their laundry, make their food, etc.  

[awaken]

Wow,  that really makes me angry, too.  Having to do one's own grocery shopping and unpacking groceries now that the number of sisters are dwindling!  Can you imagine?!  My boys are pre-teens and they have been cooking their own meals and snacks for years, grocery shopping with me, and doing housework.  They wouldn't even think twice about getting out the ingredients and making a batch of homemade cookies, or putting a load of laundry in the washer.

[Natalie68]

2 minutes ago, awaken said:

Wow,  that really makes me angry, too.  Having to do one's own grocery shopping and unpacking groceries now that the number of sisters are dwindling!  Can you imagine?!  My boys are pre-teens and they have been cooking their own meals and snacks for years, grocery shopping with me, and doing housework.  They wouldn't even think twice about getting out the ingredients and making a batch of homemade cookies, or putting a load of laundry in the washer.

You would think with all the maids getting married a discussion would have been had about who does what now.  I am sure Meechelle assumes it will sort itself out.  People WILL need to eat and wear clean clothes before Hannie gets her license.  

[awaken]

3 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

You would think with all the maids getting married a discussion would have been had about who does what now.  I am sure Meechelle assumes it will sort itself out.  People WILL need to eat and wear clean clothes before Hannie gets her license.  

Yeah, knowing this would eventually happen (the girls eventually leaving), you'd imagine they'd be "in training" to handle their own food and clothes in this scenario.  Although maybe they have had, and plan to continue to have, another single woman live with them to do the work along with the schooling.

[BitterApple]

It's just sad that these boys think of their sisters only in terms of what chores they do around the house. It's not like they said "oh, I miss Jinger's funny jokes or being able to go to Jessa for advice." Nope. All they notice is the pantry's empty and the clothes aren't getting washed. And we wonder why girls aren't lining up to court these imbeciles. 

Edited March 3, 2017 by BitterApple

[GeeGolly]

11 hours ago, BitterApple said:

It's just sad that these boys think of their sisters only in terms of what chores they do around the house. It's not like they said "oh, I miss Jinger's funny jokes or being able to go to Jessa for advice." Nope. All they notice is the pantry's empty and the clothes aren't getting washed. And we wonder why girls aren't lining up to court these imbeciles. 

And they have no idea that this isn't how the majority of families work.

Edited March 4, 2017 by GeeGolly

[sometimesy]

What happens if JD, Joe, Josiah and the non-sinner twin, (Sinner is getting out so he can't go into my scenarios) find females to sign engagement contracts at the same time? Does boob make the youngest wait for 2 years so he can have enough boring seasons, or does he hedge his bets that a herd of grandchildren running around the compound is a better story.

They need a fundy Bluetooth so that they can just turn it on and look for pairs.

[Churchhoney]

30 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

It's just sad that these boys think of their sisters only in terms of what chores they do around the house. It's not like they said "oh, I miss Jinger's funny jokes or being able to go to Jessa for advice." Nope. All they notice is the pantry's empty and the clothes aren't getting washed. And we wonder why girls aren't lining up to court these imbeciles. 

I guess it's what people have noticed over and over -- Even though this is supposedly the big tv dream family that apparently a lot of leghumpers wish they were members of, the Duggar kids in general don't seem to like each other or know each other or enjoy each other much at all. Just doesn't seem to have been a lot of bonding going on around there. .... I suppose that's to be expected when they're all trained to take snitches and drill sergeants and servants , though.  

[cmr2014]

1 hour ago, Churchhoney said:

I guess it's what people have noticed over and over -- Even though this is supposedly the big tv dream family that apparently a lot of leghumpers wish they were members of, the Duggar kids in general don't seem to like each other or know each other or enjoy each other much at all. Just doesn't seem to have been a lot of bonding going on around there. .... I suppose that's to be expected when they're all trained to take snitches and drill sergeants and servants , though.  

I've noticed it, too. The older girls all say "my sisters and I are sooo close!" but I just don't see any signs of it. They just don't seem to interact in a comfortable way. I agree that the snitching probably drives a lot of it, but they are also together 24/7 365 days a year. They just don't have enough space to ever have anything new to say to each other.