S04.E14: Reunion, Part 1

[PrincessPurrsALot]

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Cameran unveils her latest accessory; Craig and Naomie discuss their relationship; Shep gives Craig and Landon a hard time; Austen proves himself to be a more sympathetic version of his mentor; Thomas issues a threat that leaves the cast speechless.

Yes, part 1, because we can't fit all the crazy in one part! 

Note:  The episode airs at 8:00 PM on Bravo. 

[Neurochick]

Maybe it's my eyes but Kathryn looks stoned to me.  I like the red hair but not the style, it looks greasy and dirty and she looks like she stole one a dress from one of the Real Housewives of Potomac.  

Dear Shep, if you were too drunk to get on an airplane, you have a serious problem.  

Edited July 11, 2017 by Neurochick

[Mindthinkr]

I'm with your description as she did look slightly impaired...and Cameran looks cute as a button with her baby bump in pink. 

[Bronzedog]

Where's Chelsea?

[Michichick]

2 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Where's Chelsea?

Only cast members who are in the opening credits have a seat on the couch for the whole reunion.

[Mindthinkr]

"Sheppervessensce" lol! 

[dosodog]

I waited patiently through Craig and Naomi.  And no Gizmo.

I hope this means he gets a 5 minute package down the line.  Otherwise?  Bravo will get a sharply worded email from me.

[Emmeline]

28 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Maybe it's my eyes but Kathryn looks stoned to me.  I like the red hair but not the style, it looks greasy and dirty and she looks like she stole one a dress from one of the Real Housewives of Potomac.  

Dear Shep, if you were too drunk to get on an airplane, you have a serious problem.  

You are completely on point in regard to Katherine's hair.  The color is fine but the style is terrible.  She has the worst fashion sense. I can't think of one time I though she looks great I thought, I want that.

Shep is behaving like a nasty jerk.

[Major Bigtime]

Kathryn is on opiods. And there's no way she has been sober for 8 months. We've all seen the footage, we've all read the stories. She's still in denial.

[TexasGal]

Ummmm yeah.  Marijuana.  Suuuuuuuure.

I'm glad they did say something about her lying about not drinking in Key West.  I thought they were all going to stay silent.

Edited July 11, 2017 by TexasGal

[Neurochick]

If Kathryn were truly sober she wouldn't point the finger at others; she'd be more introspective, realize that a lot of times SHE is the problem.  She still doesn't get that.  It's not everybody else, it's HER.  I'm not even sure she's really sober now.  And HDTV doesn't do her any favors, she looks awful.

Edited July 11, 2017 by Neurochick

[Major Bigtime]

Just now, Neurochick said:

If Kathryn were truly sober she wouldn't point the finger at others; she'd be more introspective, realize that a lot of times SHE is the problem.  She still doesn't get that.  It's not everybody else, it's HER.  

She's not completed one step yet, certainly not attending regular meetings.

[sasha206]

36 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Maybe it's my eyes but Kathryn looks stoned to me.  I like the red hair but not the style, it looks greasy and dirty and she looks like she stole one a dress from one of the Real Housewives of Potomac.  

Dear Shep, if you were too drunk to get on an airplane, you have a serious problem.  

I was thinking the same thing about Kathryn.  

[AttackTurtle]

Kathryn is not sober and not a single person on the couches believes her.

[Neurochick]

Yikes, I'm looking at Kathryn's eyes.  She can't even open them.  She looks like she's thisclose nodding out.  

[Bronzedog]

Kathryn didn't drink in Key West?   She said the drink was salty.  There was that scene of her dancing in the bar and she seemed so hung over the next morning.  But I guess I misinterpreted all that.  Anyway, her stint in rehab was because of pot, so, I guess that's her only addiction issue.

Shep looks dirty.

[Mindthinkr]

8 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

Kathryn is on opiods. And there's no way she has been sober for 8 months. We've all seen the footage, we've all read the stories. She's still in denial.

Opioids? She looks like she's taken Valium or Xanax to me. 

[sasha206]

And then there was the "about 8 months" sobriety comment.  Most recovering addicts would be able to tell you to the day.

[HunterHunted]

44 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Maybe it's my eyes but Kathryn looks stoned to me.  I like the red hair but not the style, it looks greasy and dirty and she looks like she stole one a dress from one of the Real Housewives of Potomac.  

Dear Shep, if you were too drunk to get on an airplane, you have a serious problem.  

I thought she seemed a little like a Klonopin zombie.

Shep looked actually terrible, probably drunk, actually mean and nasty, and about a week into his unconscious plan to Leaving Las Vegas his life.

Edited July 11, 2017 by HunterHunted

[sasha206]

Jennifer owned her.  Way to go.

[Mindthinkr]

Just now, HunterHunted said:

I thought she seemed a little like a Klonopin zombie.

Shep looked actually terrible, probably drunk, and about a week into his unconscious plan to Leaving Las Vegas his life.

Ok. I'll consider Klonopin. What ever she's ingested she's getting higher as the show progresses. At this rate she might nod off before the end. Quick, someone get the coffee. 

[Major Bigtime]

2 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

And then there was the "about 8 months" sobriety comment.  Most recovering addicts would be able to tell you to the day.

She wants everyone to think she's sober because she's actually addicted to drugs. Addicts will say "Hey, I've been sober..." because they aren't drinking alcohol. She's definitely using.

[Bronzedog]

4 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

And then there was the "about 8 months" sobriety comment.  Most recovering addicts would be able to tell you to the day.

Excellent point!

[Mindthinkr]

Bless Kathryn's heart...she's a hot mess in red. 

[Neurochick]

Andy's looking at Kathryn like, "Girlfriend, you are flying!"

Shit, what does Thomas know about Kathryn.  "If I tell the truth you'll never work again."  WTF!

Edited July 11, 2017 by Neurochick

[epc]

Whatever Kathryn's been on has really affected her skin as well. She doesn't act like she's been on meth, but her skin looks like a meth addict's. I'm loving how Jennifer has been taking control.

Also, Thomas is clearly furious about Kathryn's lies, his voice was shaking. 

[bosawks]

TRav's laugh face is reminiscent of when my dog hacks up a biscuit.

[MyAimIsTrue]

Whatever I liked about Cameran went out the door when she said it was selfish for her not to have a baby.  I'm childless by choice and nothing angers me more than when I'm accused of being selfish because that reasoning makes no sense, it's bullshit.   How does not wanting something make someone selfish?

Shep is looking rough and very unhealthy.  I've never understood his allure or found him to be good looking but his friends and family have to be worried about his health.  He needs help.

[Petunia13]

I agree about her skin. That shade of red is actually pretty and can be pulled off (Run Lola Run, Alias, Rihanna, Shirley Manson, etc), but you need healthy and dewy skin to not by comparison appear sickly or drab in such a vibrant shade. 

[Neurochick]

1 minute ago, MyAimIsTrue said:

Whatever I liked about Cameran went out the door when she said it was selfish for her not to have a baby. 

I felt Cameran was saying she felt it selfish for HER not to have a baby; she wasn't saying that it was selfish not to HAVE a baby.

[sasha206]

6 minutes ago, MyAimIsTrue said:

Whatever I liked about Cameran went out the door when she said it was selfish for her not to have a baby.  I'm childless by choice and nothing angers me more than when I'm accused of being selfish because that reasoning makes no sense, it's bullshit.   How does not wanting something make someone selfish?

Shep is looking rough and very unhealthy.  I've never understood his allure or found him to be good looking but his friends and family have to be worried about his health.  He needs help.

I hear you.  I thought what she meant was her husband wanted a child, would make a great dad and it would be selfish for her to deny him that.  Of course, I think it was all a bullshit storyline and she was planning to have a family all along.

On a different note, I think being childless by choice is a very unselfish decision! 

Edited July 11, 2017 by sasha206

[AttackTurtle]

I think Cameran was saying it would be selfish for her to not have a child when her husband would make such a great dad.

I think Thomas is holding back by not saying what Kathryn was up to while Kathryn was pregnant.  Jen owned her with the gag order comment not applying to Jen.

[MyAimIsTrue]

11 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

Of course, I think it was all a bullshit storyline and she was planning to have a family all along.

Agreed.  It was the most fake storyline on a show that's incredibly fake to begin with.

[bosawks]

Kathryn's "confession" of stating she uses because she's so hard in herself had me flashbacking to about 99% of the Interventions I ever watched.

[Chicklet]

Why is it that Kathryn "knows" that Trav slept with both other women when all of them say no. I mean really who wants to sleep with him other than Kathryn? She is never ever wrong about anything. Ever.

Girl is just angry that she can't handle what everyone else continues to do. Not that Shep is doing it well either.

[izabella]

Kathryn:  I didn't spread a rumor; I just repeated it to someone.

Andy's face:  Wow, you really are too stupid to realize you just admitted to spreading a rumor.  And we all know it but you.

Edited July 11, 2017 by izabella

[ShawnaLanne]

50 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Excellent point!

Well,  not me. I have to check my tracker,  I think I'm 122, 123, nope.  114. That doesn't mean I'm not taking my sobriety seriously and same for her.  :)

[Mountainair]

There sure was a lot of A,B,C and X,Y,Z tonight! 

I don't know what Kathryn is on but     I've heard of too many old high school aquaintances dropping from heroin lately. Home girl is a mess. The outfit, the hair!

And to echo what's already been mentioned, most sober people know how long they've been that way. 

[Neeners]

Did anyone else notice Landon's voice (mostly) didn't sound like a dolphin? Why couldn't we have that all season long?

[Mindthinkr]

5 minutes ago, Neeners said:

Did anyone else notice Landon's voice (mostly) didn't sound like a dolphin? Why couldn't we have that all season long?

I noticed she had tuned down her laugh. Probably read our thread lol! 

[snarts]

Landon's fake tears,  pretending to care, when the attention isn't on her.  Loved the previews of her getting called out on the obnoxious flirting.  

I hope Kathryn gets the help she needs. Shep too.  

[Neeners]

2 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

I noticed she had tuned down her laugh. Probably read our thread lol! 

Probably! And/or heard the impression the guys on the Crappens podcast do of her. It's so bad/good!

[Atlanta]

Why does Jennifer have a seat on the couch if Chelsea doesn't?

[chewycandy]

6 minutes ago, snarts said:

Landon's fake tears,  pretending to care, when the attention isn't on her.  Loved the previews of her getting called out on the obnoxious flirting.  

I hope Kathryn gets the help she needs. Shep too.  

The baby voice is reserved for flirting. Ugh.

2 minutes ago, Atlanta said:

Why does Jennifer have a seat on the couch if Chelsea doesn't?

She was in a chair lol. Naomi got a seat. Chelsea's not a full cast member. I wonder if Whitney will deign to sit in a chair for part two. 

[Mindthinkr]

7 minutes ago, Atlanta said:

Why does Jennifer have a seat on the couch if Chelsea doesn't?

She had tales of court that didn't break either of the contesting parties gag orders. 

[ShawnaLanne]

Everyone else's reaction shots to almost everything Kathryn said was the best part. 

As an alcoholic in recovery,  114 days! I'm not supposed to remark on other people's recovery,  but Shep's description of not being able to stop is pretty spot on.  But only he can know. 

I just got into this mid season last year and haven't started at the beginning,  but I trust Landon maybe less than I do Kathryn,  she's a real snake in the grass. 

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, bosawks said:

TRav's laugh face is reminiscent of when my dog hacks up a biscuit.

Ha! Too funny - I was trying to figure out what it was he looked like.

[breezy424]

Wow.  Shep is just all sorts of angry and looking pretty bad.  I don't get all the anger he has for Craig.  I don't think he likes Austin being labeled the younger, more sensitive Shep.

It seems that Craig and Naomi are trying to work things out.  Maybe Gizmo will make a surprise visit at the end of part two.

Landon just grates.  I didn't find any toning down of that giggle or voice.

I don't know what to think of Katherine.  I don't know if she was high and I wouldn't just conclude that.  I don't know the root of what she is addicted to.  Not gonna go there because this has been discussed in the last episode.

Yeah, I think that the baby was always planned at some point.  Her husband wanted children.  She has said that.  She did look cute with that baby bump but the straps on that dress were annoying to me and to her.

I really liked Naomi's dress but it seems it would be very uncomfortable if you tried to raise your arms at all.

I'm looking forward to Chelsea coming in and her discussion with Landon.

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, sasha206 said:

And then there was the "about 8 months" sobriety comment.  Most recovering addicts would be able to tell you to the day.

I thought this was odd too.  Very pregnant pause before she answered, then the vague answer.  That plus she was starting to sound like 'old Katherine' again. (lashing out at Landon, etc.)  Don't understand why anyone would think that 30 days of prohibition would 'fix' years of trouble.  She looked stoned.

[Michichick]

51 minutes ago, Atlanta said:

Why does Jennifer have a seat on the couch if Chelsea doesn't?

Jennifer came in just for a segment, as happens with many secondary/tertiary cast members during reunions. I'm sure we will see others next week.