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Seems like just about all of the adult main characters make it into their 80s.

Except James, apparently. Dying in the 1980s, he would have been in his 50s. It was odd throughout the entire series that William, Olivia’s brother who was apparently James’ life partner, was never directly brought into the series except in brief glances when James was in Europe onscreen and that was apparently used to limit David Berry’s role in the final three seasons, even before he was also cast in Outlander. 

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On 10/30/2018 at 9:25 PM, sas616 said:

Just finished watching the series finale and geez, I could have done without that last bit.  Probably just me, but it was kind of a downer.   Would have been fine had it just ended on New Years Eve.

The ending was a little much for me too.  There was just too much detail on what happened to the characters.  A little would have been great, but they didn't know when to stop.  I never want to see a show in reruns when you have specifics on the characters' endings.  As silly as it sounds, I can always imagine they still exist unless I am told that they no longer do.

On 11/1/2018 at 7:46 PM, USAFAN said:

Thank god it's over.  But did we ever see Sir Richard get his comeuppance?

Sir Richard was not shown in the last series, unless I missed him.  He was talked about as someone being on the hospital board, but that was all I recall.  I also was waiting to see him get it one more time, especially if Elizabeth would be the one to do it.

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On 11/1/2018 at 6:46 PM, USAFAN said:

But did we ever see Sir Richard get his comeuppance?

Nah, he had a truce of sorts with the Blighs at the end of season 5.   And of course we saw George punch him and Larry throw fruit at him.  He was on the hospital board at the end and was at least a little bit involved in Burton trying to oust Jack but Jack's power play won and he stayed at the hospital.  Jack seemed at least a little bit to be plotting ways to get Richard off the board.  I'll assume he succeeds at some point, and if not it irritates Richard that he doesn't succeed in ruining any Bligh lives.   

 

On 11/1/2018 at 6:50 PM, mojito said:

 

Interesting that Frank was invited to Christmas supper at Ash Park. That seemed to have come out of nowhere.

 

Sarah said she thought another voice might get through to Jack indicating that she'd orchestrated it as part of her fixing Jack before going to Israel plan.   Because she really does always have to have the last word.  


On 11/1/2018 at 6:50 PM, mojito said:

I don't quite get the Sara's book, entitled, "A Place to Call Home" by Samantha Swanson. Does that name have any significance? I know that Andrew and Prudence's last name is Swanson. Something (besides the romance of Andrew and Olivia) whizzed right past me. 

Season 2 episode 1 had a flash forward to a blonde woman named Sam interviewing a very old Sarah.  Sam was played by the same actress who plays Olivia (with a blonde wig).   So Olivia needed to have a biological child sometime after 2x01 because obviously Georgie's children wouldn't resemble Olivia.  Olivia married Andrew and is shown in the epilogue with a baby dressed in blue.  The book jacket says Samantha Swanson indicating that the baby Livvie is holding at the end grows up to father a daughter named Samantha who writes the book about Sarah.    

 I feel like season 5 ended with Matt and Livvie engaged so if there wasn't a season 5 they had a blonde man who could have fathered Sam.   I feel like all of LIvvie's stories were ultimately about making sure there was a plausible blonde father for Sam. 

On 11/1/2018 at 6:50 PM, mojito said:

Seems like just about all of the adult main characters make it into their 80s. 

James his 50s, Elizabeth her 60s.   We don't know about Jack and Caro but the order of Australia isn't awarded until 1975 (and there were  only a couple of female MPs before then) so they could have fallen short of 80 but they probably did alright longevity wise.   

Poor Sarah though has at least 25 years (and probably a few more!) as a widow not counting the 8 years she thought she was widowed from her first husband.   That's harsh.  

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On 11/1/2018 at 2:45 AM, bybrandy said:

I really hated that ending for Olivia, because she had the same story over and over and over again.  Olivia meets a boy.  He says he loves her.  She falls in love. He turns out to be entirely wrong for her, lather, rinse, repeat.  She fell for James quickly, he turned out to be gay and the second best choice she'd ever make.   She fell for the artist quickly and he turned out to be a cad.  She fell for Matthew quickly and he turned out to be a controlling arse. Then she fell for Andrew quickly and that time it worked out.. but it didn't feel like growth it felt like it worked out because they needed her to have a bio kid with a blonde to make Samantha worked ant that every story she'd had for the past two years had been not about Olivia but about that.   

I thought last year that Matthew happened so quickly and was annoyingly perfect and too pat so I sort of loved that he turned out to be controlling and gave Olivia a chance to play nothing other than sweetly in love with some boy.   But then they had her go and fall immediately in love again with a boy.  She was engaged to two different men during the course of her divorce.  So I feel like it worked out because they wanted to give sweet Olivia a happily ever after, rather than it worked out because Olivia was changed or even Andrew was. Which  guess was true but since we didn't get to see it. it would have worked better with more episodes with Andrew but honestly it needed a lot more episodes for me.  

I feel like Olivia is the most underserved character on the show.  I like her.  I want nice things for her.  But I don't feel like I know her even a little bit.  I mean this season had her have a scene with her brother without them interacting.  ?!?!?!

I felt like it was a woman can be happy in a variety of ways.  I hope it was.  In any case it feels better than her going back to Gino.   

Matt was probably the worst written character on the show, but then I think he was meant to be a plot device and not a character.  I still have no idea why he did what he did.  And what about his son?  What was up with that?  I wish he had been included in the "what happened to" segment at the end, even if it was just " No one ever heard from Matt again.  He had several other failed relationships and was never able to find his son.  He shot and killed himself after his business failed in the late 1970's."   

FTR, I have no problem with him and Olivia not getting a "happy ending."  I just have a problem with his going from being "the perfect boyfriend" to "villain" with absolutely no context.  

Another thing I noticed in the Season 2 episode with Samantha and a very old Sarah:  There was another elderly character in that scene called Leah who I assumed must have been Sarah's caretaker.  I wonder if that was Leah Gold now.  Or I guess Leah Gray since she married Larry.  

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1 hour ago, Badger said:

I wonder if that was Leah Gold now.  Or I guess Leah Gray since she married Larry.  

Yes, that was Leah Gold/Gray?  Larry's last name was Gray?  I totally didn't remember that.   Leah was also sitting at Sarah's bedside at the very end.  

I thought Matt was too perfect and neatly tied up in season 5 so I wasn't surprised at all he became some cartoon villain.  Too perfect boys always are.  IF they hadn't gotten a season 6 Sam would have a blonde grandfather but he was TOO boringy perfect to be Livvie's happily ever after in season 6.  Also, Douglas having a rift so deep with his son that he didn't mention it for YEARS with Elizabeth even as he lay dying, I mean the guy wasn't going to be a boy scout.  But obviously he had an impact on Georgie who kept surfing.  

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I have no problem with Matt becoming a villain.  And yes, he was too good to be true.  But there was no context to what happened.  I mean, usually, there will be clues that you can point to when a character changes that much.  Like with Olivia ending up with Andrew Swanson.  That works because we know they were friends and that he had great affection for her even though he wanted Anna.  Look how genuinely pleased he was to see her with Baby George in the hospital.  

Maybe it was supposed to be a case of he came literally out of nowhere, had an impact on their lives, and then disappeared as quickly as he appeared.  It's also ironic that he told James that his son and the child's mother "severed all ties" and disappeared and then he ended up doing the same thing.  

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WTF? KPBS.  They went from delusional bitch in an asylum back to DAY ! of the series ...

San Diego must really be hurting for money to not run any further seasons.

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On 11/5/2018 at 10:37 AM, walnutqueen said:

WTF? KPBS.  They went from delusional bitch in an asylum back to DAY ! of the series ...

San Diego must really be hurting for money to not run any further seasons.

I don't think many PBS stations have bought or aired new episodes since Acorn bought the rights.   

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14 minutes ago, bybrandy said:

I don't think many PBS stations have bought or aired new episodes since Acorn bought the rights.   

Well, that sucks for me, then.  :-(

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2 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

Well, that sucks for me, then.  :-(

Acorn has a free trial.    They don't charge you until the trial is up and you can cancel as soon as your registration goes through so they can't charge you but you still get access for the length of your free trial.   And if you use the promo code ACORNTVLOVE the free trial is 30 days.

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And asthmatic to boot -:)

You can tell none of the actors are real smokers. I never saw anyone inhale.  And the way they held the nasty little things was strange.

As someone who once smoked two packs of Marlboros a day I can tell the authentic.

(Now, someone will probably tell me  that off camera "George" is a chain smoker.)

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Some seasons ago on APTCH, there was a flash-forward to the present day, showing a young blonde woman (played by the same actress who plays Olivia, in a blonde wig) driving up to Ash park and going inside to visit an extremely elderly Sarah. I don't recall exactly what she and Sara talked about  -   but I believe it involved Sarah's explaining a long-ago incident. I also don't remember how the young woman addressed Sarah, so was not clear about their relationship.

 

  Who WAS that young woman  -   and what were the circumstances of her visit?

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21 hours ago, anniebird said:

Am I the only one who thought Anna's baby was going to be born with fetal alcohol syndrome? 

You aren’t the only one.  There was a lot of talk about it on various Facebook groups but no I didn’t assume that because the show was ending and they wouldn’t have any time to address it especially since it wasn’t discovered until 1973 so they wouldn’t have had the words to talk about it.  And aside from some physical things most symptoms wouldn’t present early enough for people to have noticed them.    

 

But yeah Anna drank and smoked a lot.  And it was noticed a lot.  

5 hours ago, Jeff Hanna said:

Some seasons ago on APTCH, there was a flash-forward to the present day, showing a young blonde woman (played by the same actress who plays Olivia, in a blonde wig) driving up to Ash park and going inside to visit an extremely elderly Sarah. I don't recall exactly what she and Sara talked about  -   but I believe it involved Sarah's explaining a long-ago incident. I also don't remember how the young woman addressed Sarah, so was not clear about their relationship.

 

  Who WAS that young woman  -   and what were the circumstances of her visit?

Olivia’s granddaughter Sam from Olivia’s son with Andrew Swanson. Sam was interviewing Sarah for what would become a book titled a place to call home.  That book was on Sarah’s nightstand in her final scene.  

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I was alive back in the late 50's -:) early 60's.  One of my friends who smoked and drank throughout her first pregnancy delivered a son

who weighed almost 10 lbs.  And, yes, she did inhale.

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I've got one more episode left and then I will have binged watch all 6 series. Some observations:

1. There were hundreds of scenes establishing who was going where and why and to stay at which house: Ash Park, Carolyn's apartment in Sydney, Prudence's house, the guest cottage, Douglas Goddards house, Roy's house. Always a car coming or going and a whole scene of the arrival or departure,  which did nothing to move the story along just to let us know who is leaving this house for another house and why.  At any time there was such an odd assortment of cast staying at Ash Park, then later at the Goddard house. At least we got to see many vintage suitcases and cars.

2. I played a drinking game every time Sarah said "I understahnd" LOL then I added Elizabeth to the "I understahnd" game. Sarah was super woman and well-liked in series one, but then she became HOLIER THAN THOU. I really was rooting for her in the first 2 seasons but then she became insufferable.  By the third series I couldn't stand her. Doc was right, she always has to get the last word in.  So holier than thou, just a real know -it-all.  Plus she speaks in this phony affected posh type British accent that just yells snob! If she sounded more Aussie maybe she'd be more likable.

3. A few places in the series I was pretty confused by the plot. I have no idea why  they felt that having the doctor run for office was the only way to distract Sir Richard so they could get another loan. It made no sense at all- that was how to distract him? What? I also didn't feel like Regina had changed, that she was pretending to be on their side but was plotting to double cross them (triple cross them?). The way the actress played it, I really thought she was faking helping them to screw them again. I didn't really know that she really HAD been cured and changed and they wanted us to know that, until I saw the actress in an interview discussing it.  Why James didn't see Georgie when he was back from France also made no sense. I mean yes the new step dad was there, but really James was the only father he ever knew. 

4. When Sarah was talking about her time in the concentration camp, she never cried. When she was telling George about the guards raping her, not a tear. It was weird to me, that she showed no emotion. 

5. The actress playing Sarah, I'm surprised she never got a nosejob. There I said it. It is the type of bump high on the bridge that is easily fixed with plastic surgery. In some scenes I was just so distracted by her huge schnoz. I read she wants to get roles in Hollywood but I think in USA they don't go for an imperfections of this nature. I know I'm very unpolitically correct and I'll burn in hell for this. But I know some of you are thinking it!

6. I agree Anna was written to be so modern and she would have been shunned as a single and was- she lost a huge movie contract. Sometimes these period dramas inject very modern ideas and it's just ridiculous. At least with the homosexuality they tried to keep that more realistic with the reactions of people like Doris Collins, altho she changed her mind very quickly. 

7. Livia never found out that Matt had a son? What the hell. ...

8.. I knew we would get the lesbian story line at some point. I'm surprised it didn't come until the last season, but I knew it was coming for a main character to have a lesbian affair. There are NO drama series written in this decade that don't include a lesbian story line. What is shocking is that it took them 6 seasons to get to it. Yawn.

Even in the finale, there were so many useless scenes, that could have been cut and no one would have noticed. Like the scene of Leah and Sarah in the hall with David, some dumb dialog about his good night story, then Leah says she cant wait to start her training to be a nurse. Sarah says she should go into pediatric nursing because she has a way with kids. There were so many scenes like this throughout the series that served no purpose, they were fillers. 

 

If you don't agree with me, I understahnd 

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If the actress had a  nose job she would be just another pretty blond.  I can understand her motivation. However, Sarah became a bit too much.  Recently I read an article describing  a "Mary Sue".  Mary Sue is a character who is perfect ...she can do anything.. is pretty and feminine.  Sarah is definitely a Mary Sue.

The first two seasons of APTCH were so good.  Season 6 was almost a total disappointment. (And don't get me started on the lesbian bit.  I was alive during the '50s  and such relationships weren't even hinted at in public.  The worst thing was that obvious homosexuals were called "fruits"

by "polite" people.)

But I liked all the actors.  Hope they were well compensated.

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Calpurnia...  I meant to say.... "I can understahned her motivation."

PS  Another thing I noticed....Mary Sue didn't look any older six years later than she did at first. (And that 2000 era blonde hair never showed a dark root.)  George did look more mature by Seasons 6.  (Altho at 54 even Brett Climo can't remain youthful forever.)

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10 hours ago, Seaford john said:

A book is shown at the end,does this exist as a search brings up nothing?

Nope it was a prop made for the show explaining the flash forward from season 2.   

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On 12/17/2018 at 4:28 PM, calpurnia99 said:

A few places in the series I was pretty confused by the plot. I have no idea why  they felt that having the doctor run for office was the only way to distract Sir Richard so they could get another loan. It made no sense at all- that was how to distract him?

I think Jack was the only person in town who knew enough people had a good enough reputation to that close of an election make it a real fight for George causing Sir Richard to pay more attention to the race than he would have had it been a sure thing for George.  Also Sir Richard might have been able to buy off another candidate who beat George, but Jack hated him for what he did to Carolyn so it isn't like Sir Richard could influence Jack to go along with his schemes should Jack win.  

On 12/17/2018 at 4:28 PM, calpurnia99 said:

5. The actress playing Sarah, I'm surprised she never got a nosejob.

Jennifer Grey did this and then she started looking exactly like everybody else.  It completely tanked her career.  Marta works consistently.  

On 12/17/2018 at 4:28 PM, calpurnia99 said:

8.. I knew we would get the lesbian story line at some point. I'm surprised it didn't come until the last season, but I knew it was coming for a main character to have a lesbian affair.

On 12/17/2018 at 7:21 PM, USAFAN said:

(And don't get me started on the lesbian bit.  I was alive during the '50s  and such relationships weren't even hinted at in public.  The worst thing was that obvious homosexuals were called "fruits"

by "polite" people.)

I guess I'm missing the part where the relationship was hinted about in public.  Everything I saw happened at Prudence Swanson's house.  Prudence Swanson's house is very much not public.  And Carolyn turns out to be at most bicurious.   "she dipped her toe in" 10 years ago and had 2 kisses with Delia before ultimately going back to her husband.  It really wasn't much of a lesbian story at all.   

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Can anyone tell me when Dawn and Roy were married? We've watched every episode (we're currently nearing the end of season 5) and not only do I not remember seeing or hearing of them getting married, but I've searched episode guides and Google and can't find any mention of them getting married. It seems like Roy was being commitment-shy, then the next thing I know, they're talking about Dawn being pregnant and I'm thinking, "Wow, they seem pretty cool about an out-of-wedlock baby for the 1950s!" Then someone calls her Mrs. Briggs and I'm scratching my head trying to figure out when that happened. Anyone?

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Just finished watching the series finale (via Acorn/Amazon Prime) and absolutely loved all of it despite being well aware it was bonkers so much of the time. I was often surprised by it and often in a good way.

A few random thoughts/observations:

mojoker, I think Roy and Dawn married during the time jump between 1954 and 1958. We never saw the ceremony. 

Ash Park must have only been an hour or so drive away from Sydney. This seemed particularly apparent when Anna planned to get driven down to Ash Park from Sydney in time to have her baby.

Thank God they never brought Gino back, although I wouldn’t have minded us finding out that he was shooting blanks, he was married to wacko Rose, they’d adopted a child and he was NOT COOL with that.

The only major issue I ever had with the entire series was Matt never revealing the story of his wife and son to Olivia. Talk about a fecking hypocrite. Dude was all about SECRETS and he had a doozy he just sat on while going all sanctimonious on our Livvy’s ass. I do think the show dropped the ball by not having SOMEONE tell Olivia about Matt’s history after he left.

The show’s creator/headwriter Bevan Lee seems old enough to have been a very young fan of the now-defunct NBC daytime soap Another World, which was a very big hit Down Under in the 1970s/1980s. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Sarah was modeled somewhat after AW’s blonde nurse Alice Matthews with Regina being a rich bitch version of raven haired Rachel  Davis. By the way Sister Matthews was the name of the fictional nurse on the radio serial of Tender Vines. Something tells me that wasn’t a coincidence.

Caro’s “FUCK YOU, George. FUCK YOU.” was AMAZING.

Abby Earl (Anna) had better be perfecting her American accent because she seems destined to play Ivanka Trump Kushner in the inevitable miniseries or film about the Trump dynasty. The physical resemblance to her is quite striking.

And finally Noni Hazlehurst as Elizabeth was utterly fantastic in every damn episode. That final scene between Elizabeth and Sarah was pretty special.

That is all.

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Does anyone know when the last season will be showing on PBS?  I had the impression it might be soon, but I haven't seen anything on it.

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I just purchased the season 6 DVD of APTCH. I had been waiting because the price was previously around $47, but I looked again today and it was $30. Amazon is offering a limited time deal at that price, so if you are interested hop on over; I don't know when that deal expires.

(Edited to add: I am in the US.)

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On 6/6/2019 at 7:02 PM, treeofdreams said:

I just purchased the season 6 DVD of APTCH. I had been waiting because the price was previously around $47, but I looked again today and it was $30. Amazon is offering a limited time deal at that price, so if you are interested hop on over; I don't know when that deal expires.

(Edited to add: I am in the US.)

Good choice as it is unlikely to ever air on PBS.  Good price, too.   

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