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Wow. This show morphed from a black comedy into.......something else. I’m not even sure what - it’s so tonaly all over the map. I think it crossed a line when Patty brutally murdered Christian. I liked it better when the Bobs were feuding. Not sure if I’m going to stick with it.

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Wow. This may be the slowest reveal of a show's central point ever. Assuming that "Insatiable" applies to a long-term effect of having a demon inside you. There were so many earlier references to Satan and demons through the first episodes, but no single reference pointed toward this conclusion. I'm not sure if I admire this or an annoyed by it.

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I'm glad to get away from the pageant stuff for a bit. Never been a fan, even when it is being mocked (and it isn't mocked hard enough in this show).

While I enjoy Insatiable, I can't quite get a handle on its style. It swerves all over the place, with some characters sometimes acting reasonably, then unreasonably, and other characters being consistently crazy (and crazier). It's less about building on a base and more random. Which is fine, it just means anything can happen at any time and I don't get a sense of where this is going.

So many of these characters first get mad (Roxy, Nonnie, Nonnie's girlfriend, Coralee, etc.) and the do a 180 and come back sad. The constant drama would wear me out.

At the same time, the show handles some things, like coming out, remarkably sensitively at times. 

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On 8/31/2018 at 7:41 AM, Chaos Theory said:

I don’t understand the negative reviews at all this hit all the right buttons for me.  I think this was the exact opposite of fat shaming like a couple of the reviews claimed.  The show went out of its way to say Patty would never be happy fat or thin until she was happy with who she was as a person regardless of her weight,   I loved Nonnie and her entire storyline.  Bob and Coralee were hilarious.  Actually I really liked all the parents and kids relationship.

I don't know if the comments are negative so much as ... puzzled. I agree with all of your one-line comments about various characters, while at the same time I don't know what Insatiable was about. It started out as being (IMO) about Patty and her belief that she would be viewed totally differently after losing weight, and all the fat shaming baggage that goes with it. That alone would have been a great story (and something Dietland started with and then also lost the thread). 

But then it seemed to be more about Patty being selfish, angry and unstable and wanting revenge. Enough to murder someone even. So is it about a fat shamed person or a crazy person (which invalidates anything Patty experienced around fat shaming, since Patty is unstable so we don't know what actually happened when she was shamed, only her version). 

THEN the idea of Patty being possessed through eating her unborn twin was offered. OK, that's out there, but I'll go with it. But that idea seemed to be dropped. Though the concept of her being possessed may still exist?

THEN Patty both kills Christian and saves what's her name, at the same time. So is she actually just a horrible human being for killing Christian? or an improving one for saving what's her-name? Candace? I seriously can't remember.

Meanwhile, all the people around Patty are either nutso or can't make up their minds. Nonnie seems to realize that she isn't herself around Patty, and leaves her, but then comes running back. Coralee loves Bob, rejects gay Bob, wants a threesome with both Bobs, doesn't want a threesome with the Bobs, has one and loves the threesome, and then ... is unsure if she can handle it. Bob B's pageant daughter, whose name I forget, wants to be in pageants, doesn't want to and then wants to again. Everyone is so back and forth.

There are lots of high school kids in this, but it isn't a show about coming of age in high school. There are lots of adults sorting out gender identity, but it isn't a show about that.  Then there is the whole beauty pageant world and setting, which Insatiable appeared to be about for 4-5 episodes but then left that path almost as an afterthought to character interactions.

The one thing I thought the show did really well from a narrative POV is track the Bobs' YEARS of dislike of each other, and how they tormented each other (mostly perfect Bob B tormenting regular Bob), and lead it to a funny and entirely plausible conclusion that they loved each other. That was fantastic. Second to that is Nonnie and the sensitive way her coming out was handled. Though the brief girlfriend was more a device than a character.

And I haven't even mentioned Dixie and her self-admittedly crazy mom, or Brick, or Christian, or Pastor whomever, or a bunch of other people.

So what was Insatiable about? They all were insatiable for different things, even things they didn't know they wanted? There seemed to be too much indecision to be simply that. It was almost screwball enough to just be a zany comedy, which I can accept, except there was too much serious stuff (like Nonnie coming out) to be zany. 

So while I will watch more if there is more, I am on the side of Insatiable season one being all over the place. I'd like to see a more defined narrative if there is a season 2. 

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On 8/20/2018 at 4:44 PM, moonshine71 said:

Also, a bit of decent joke casting, considering Patty's Amy Fischer/Drew Barrymore fantasizing, by putting the other Amy Fischer actress in the Mary Jo Buttafuoco role.

I kind of loved Alyssa's version because it was trying so hard to make Joey Buttafuoco look innocent.

This feels like Popular, but without the WB network interference that forced them to add in the sentimental crap.

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Wouldn’t Magnolia have ran straight to the police after she escaped? It seems Patty (and Bob) would have been worried about that. 

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On 8/11/2018 at 8:13 AM, eXiled said:

It wasn't what I expected, especially after reading the scathing reviews.

It was better!

I happened on a you tube thing yesterday about how crazy this show was... I have to say, it was crazy but funny and enjoyable.   Agreed that Bob A looks and reminds me of John Ritter.  

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On 10/7/2018 at 11:52 AM, Tararayne said:

Wouldn’t Magnolia have ran straight to the police after she escaped? It seems Patty (and Bob) would have been worried about that. 

When it comes back I am hoping this last part could be a dream sequence. Basically I do think I have a problem with Patty brutally murdering Christian and possibly Stella Rose. I don't see anyway out of this particular corner unless it was a dream or illusion.  I don't think I could have fun with the show anymore if she did actually kill people.  

I do crack up when Christian is getting his head bashed in to cries of Patty going "I am a good person". Errr...

On 8/28/2018 at 3:44 AM, Cthulhudrew said:

Yes, it did progress several plotlines, but the actual attraction and subsequent behavior was never really addressed nor settled between Patty and Bob. She just "got over" it.

I kind of feel like that would be a very natural way it would happen. Patti wasn't used to male attention so Bob showing her any affection would make her fall for him but then Brick is into her and then Christian and suddenly she doesn't need Bob's attention anymore and can see it for what it was. 

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One of them, in particular, was not knowing who the character of Patty really is.

While true... I think that works. Patty doesn't know who she is. Who she was before the weight loss was foisted on her.  She had little choices.  This in a way is her journey of finding out who she is when the world sees her differently. I love how messy it is and how truly nasty Patty can be.  

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Bob looks so much like John Ritter...

Oh my God. THANK YOU. I was trying to figure it out. I thought maybe Mike Birbiglia but I couldn't quite place it. It was making me crazy.

Anyway, I'm 6 episodes in and I love it. I mean, I loved it from the pilot. This is exactly my kind of show. Campy and messy but in a good way. I'd say the misstep is when they blur the lines. Like, episode 5 in particular had a lot of teachable moments and while that's fine, it does obscure the fact that this isn't a normal. I don't need the characters to be purely morally good as long as the show doesn't try to pretend this is a typical high school comedy. Speaking of high school, it does help that all the kids look old so I don't have to think about them as teenagers. They're definitely more Glee than Degrassi.

I do think I'm a little more forgiving because the writers are clearly older. They mostly make 80's references. It's not hard to figure out when they were born. And while their are some progressive moments, it feels like their politics and any feminist leanings are from a different decade. 

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I think my biggest issue with the show is that Patty is kind of dumb. I don't mind rooting for an evil (or more generously, morally gray) character once in a while, especially in something campy and over the top like this. But Patty acts without thinking. She doesn't make any kind of plan and that's why she's been in so much trouble in the first few episodes. She's past Blair Waldorf or Juliette Barnes into being pure id sometimes. If she's going to be a schemer, I need her to be better at it. 

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The best part of this show is probably the casting. Everyone is perfect. Every actor I recognize (Carly Hughes, Michael Ian Black, etc.) is someone I like.

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but how many times is the leading lady going to realize she’s an asshole and feel terrible about it and then turn around and out her mentor and only person she has in her life just because?

Yeah, the show feels like it's going in circles because Patty is the one character who isn't really allowed to progress, at least not enough that she quits pageants (which is probably what she actually needs to do for real healing and character growth). Magnolia got sent to rehab but Patty can never get punished or face repercussions for her actions for more than an episode or two. Nonnie is coming into her own. But it feels like Patty has been learning the lesson about being ugly/pretty on the inside over and over and it hasn't meaningfully changed her behavior because then all the shenanigans on the show would stop. The part of the show that wants to be about beauty standards and eating disorders is fighting with the part of the show that wants to be camp and Heathers. But the thing about Heathers or a Lifetime movie (which is basically what the Christian plotline became at the end) is that the story is contained in the running time of a movie. Insatiable has to keep going and making more episodes. I hope it doesn't become too big of a mess but How to Get Away with Murder is still somehow going so maybe there's hope. 

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I am also in the camp that is suspicious about whether Christian is dead. She hit him so many times... but something about that ending leaves the question open if they want to play it that way.

With this show's love of 80's references, he's pretty clearly JD from Heathers. (There's some Judd Nelson Breakfast Club and all those Endless Love type Lifetime movies in there too but JD is the biggest reference point to me) I mean his name is Christian. Like, Christian Slater. And that boy needed a bomb to take him out. So if they like the actor/character I can see him not being dead by the insane rules of soap operas.

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