Show Wishlist: What We'd Like To See

[Joe Hellandback]

After a one night stand Fin is arrested for rape by internal affairs. The NYPD's attempts to keep the case out of the news are stymied by a leak and his arraignment hearing turns into media circus which escalates into a riot outside the courtroom between protesters and counter protesters after the situation is inflamed by bloggers alleging sexism and racism. When the accuser disappears under mysterious circumstances Fin is released without charge but the shadow of suspicion lingers over him, even from colleagues. Returning to his flat he receives a call from Italian diplomat DiSatio from Scorched Earth telling him he knows what it's like to be falsely accused and humiliated in such circumstances, Fin realising he has been set up from beginning to end and that this is DiSatio's revenge on him.     

Edited November 7, 2017 by Joe Hellandback
Apostrophe

[FozzyBear]

4 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

I always thought it would be a great story if you had a gang of rapists deliberately targeting guys in very macho professions, knowing they would be the last people who would ever report the crime. 

Or maybe a he said/he said. Like a too intoxicated to consent case between 2 openly gay men. 

[Xeliou66]

Yeah I've noticed that with male victims as well, they almost always go out of their way to demonize them. I guess Mariska and her foundations PSA about standing up for victims only applies to female victims, particularly rich white pretty female victims, since that's all we ever see. I miss when we had a variety of cases and a variety of people as victims, now it's all pretty young rich white girls. 

[Joe Hellandback]

7 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Yeah I've noticed that with male victims as well, they almost always go out of their way to demonize them. I guess Mariska and her foundations PSA about standing up for victims only applies to female victims, particularly rich white pretty female victims, since that's all we ever see. I miss when we had a variety of cases and a variety of people as victims, now it's all pretty young rich white girls. 

I would almost take the opposite view, they have pretty rich white victims partly as a stereotype (the people they think a rapist would target) and also to titillate the viewers. 

[Joe Hellandback]

1. An allegation against a social worker has one of the team go undercover in that department and begin to appreciate the impossible situation they face with an overwhelming workload, scarcity of resources and lack of co-operation from the courts, police etc

2. After a victim is found unconscious and raped in Central Park the SVU investigate a team of paintball enthusiasts who hire beautiful women for them to hunt for sport.  

3. The team investigate an internet craze of sexual one-upmanship with some of the competitors straying into illegal activities. 

4. The team investigate a female customer for underage prostitutes who robs and murders their pimps afterwards and shares the money with their girls.

5. The team face 'The Spiker', an internet anarchist who adds LSD, GHB, Rohypnol to the water fountains in girl's schools, strip clubs, beauty pageants etc and films the results. 

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A sex toy maker creates a bunch of underage sex dolls. Can Barba prove this to be child porn and should he?

2. An academic publishes a study which claims that men and women perceive the issue of consent differently. Barba must defeat him in the courtroom or every he said/she said rapist will have an automatic get out clause.   

3. An ex-wife accuses her ex-husband, an expert in psychology and bio-chemistry of transforming her into his brainwashed sex slave and now attempting to do the same to his daughters. 

4. A homeowner surprises a burglar planting child porn on his home computer. Is this a frame job or has a prisoner on the inside arranged it to give him grounds to appeal, claiming the same was done to him?

5. A powerful woman in the entertainment business claims to have been raped by one of her employees. But when the team investigate they discover the suspect is in the process of suing her for sexual harassment. Where does flirting end and sex crimes/harassment begin?

[GalvDuck]

On 11/11/2017 at 5:55 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

1. An allegation against a social worker has one of the team go undercover in that department and begin to appreciate the impossible situation they face with an overwhelming workload, scarcity of resources and lack of co-operation from the courts, police etc

Sounds kind of similar to "Institutional Fail" (17x4 from 2015) with guest star Whoopi Goldberg.  No one went undercover, but the whole overwhelming workload bit was definitely tackled.

On 11/24/2017 at 6:47 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

1. A sex toy maker creates a bunch of underage sex dolls. Can Barba prove this to be child porn and should he?

"Appearances" (4x19) - the suspect has a how-to manual for certain acts on his computer and it is deemed legal because the models were legal age, although they were manipulated to look younger.

I realize your plots are slightly different, but in the end, the courts would probably still respond with the same judgment.

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A trio of rapists who met whilst taking part in a clinical drug trial claim their behaviour is a side effect of the drugs they were given. Barba has to argue that the company is criminally responsible whilst the company argue there is no alternative but to test drugs on human volunteers. 

2. A homosexual rapist targets those who claim to have been cured of their homosexuality by Christian deprogrammers, many different viewpoints and pressure groups getting into the case, giving Barba an almighty headache in court.  

[QueenMab]

Sorry Joe....#2 already dine, I think in the recent past. Christian "sect" cures gayness by forcing them to have straight sex. Barba got a conviction. :)

[Joe Hellandback]

8 hours ago, QueenMab said:

Sorry Joe....#2 already dine, I think in the recent past. Christian "sect" cures gayness by forcing them to have straight sex. Barba got a conviction. :)

Ah but this is the other way around!

[GalvDuck]

On 12/11/2017 at 4:10 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

1. A trio of rapists who met whilst taking part in a clinical drug trial claim their behaviour is a side effect of the drugs they were given. Barba has to argue that the company is criminally responsible whilst the company argue there is no alternative but to test drugs on human volunteers. 

Research on prisoners or past criminals would be unlikely without the drug being tested on animals first, then on a healthy population.  The whole "There is no alternative" wouldn't fly in real research.  Furthermore, there's that whole Declaration of Helsinki, Belmont Report, and Nuremberg Code and so forth for the protection of human research subjects (especially vulnerable populations like elderly, prisoners, pregnant women, and children)    If a clinical trial ever got to the phase where convicted rapists were used, it would likely be a double-blinded study and they wouldn't know if they got the real drug or a placebo.  

If such an episode were to ever come about, it would be a great twist in the end for Barba to discover that the pharma company unblinded the study and discovered all three were taking a placebo and they only have themselves to blame for their behavior.

[shapeshifter]

A college student comes into the station concerned for the safety of his or her recently retired grandmother, who has taken up as a "hobby" researching a man who raped the grandmother 40+ years ago when the grandmother was hitchhiking, but the rapist was never even taken into custody because he claimed she was a prostitute. The grandmother has always believed (rightly, as it turns out) that this was not the rapist's first or last attack, and that in this age of social media it should now be possible to locate both him and his other victims. The college student's fears turn out to be largely unfounded, as the rapist is now in his 80s and has suffered from erectile dysfunction for 15+ years. However, one of his victims committed suicide because of the rape, and the grandmother manages to convince Barba to try him for something like accessory to murder (or some more legally plausible charge) sine the statute of limitations has run out for the literally hundreds of raped hitchhikers.

[Joe Hellandback]

19 hours ago, GalvDuck said:

Research on prisoners or past criminals would be unlikely without the drug being tested on animals first, then on a healthy population.  The whole "There is no alternative" wouldn't fly in real research.  Furthermore, there's that whole Declaration of Helsinki, Belmont Report, and Nuremberg Code and so forth for the protection of human research subjects (especially vulnerable populations like elderly, prisoners, pregnant women, and children)    If a clinical trial ever got to the phase where convicted rapists were used, it would likely be a double-blinded study and they wouldn't know if they got the real drug or a placebo.  

If such an episode were to ever come about, it would be a great twist in the end for Barba to discover that the pharma company unblinded the study and discovered all three were taking a placebo and they only have themselves to blame for their behavior.

Yes, I thought of that twist the moment you mentioned it. Although testing on animals is no guarantee, penicillin is lethal to guinea pigs.  My idea though is that these guys would have no prior criminal records. 

A recently released rapist rapes his original victim for the 2nd time. He is prosecuted but then evidence emerges that the victim lied the first time around and he was actually convicted of a crime he did not commit. Should Barba put him on trial for a crime he has already been punished for?

Edited January 6, 2018 by Joe Hellandback
No prior records.

[illdoc]

On 1/6/2018 at 6:27 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

A recently released rapist rapes his original victim for the 2nd time. He is prosecuted but then evidence emerges that the victim lied the first time around and he was actually convicted of a crime he did not commit. Should Barba put him on trial for a crime he has already been punished for?

This sounds similar to an episode on the mothership, where a man was convicted and served seven (?) years for killing his wife, who, of course, is not only alive, but hooking up with his brother. I think she ends up dead and he is at least accused/arrested for the crime. I can't remember if he actually did it though.

[Xeliou66]

5 minutes ago, illdoc said:

This sounds similar to an episode on the mothership, where a man was convicted and served seven (?) years for killing his wife, who, of course, is not only alive, but hooking up with his brother. I think she ends up dead and he is at least accused/arrested for the crime. I can't remember if he actually did it though.

I think I’ve seen every L&O and I don’t remember this at all. However it does sound similar to last seasons Making a Rapist where the guy was wrongfully convicted of raping a woman, and after he gets released he wound up raping and killing the daughter of the woman he was convicted of raping.

[illdoc]

It may not have been a "full episode"--there were a couple of times where they had several cases in one episode. 

 

Found it!  L&O Season 13, episode 23 "Couples"---here's quotes: 

Matthew Clemens: Maybe I should explain: Reynaldo was charged and convicted ten years ago of killing his wife. Problem was she wasn't dead - she just ran off.

Reynaldo Celaya: And now you can't do nothing to me. What's it called?

Matthew Clemens: Double jeopardy.

Reynaldo Celaya: That's when you can't be charged for killing the same wife twice.

Matthew Clemens: Gotta love the Constitution.

And more quotes: 

Jack McCoy: Let me get this straight, Mr Celaya. You'll admit you killed Ana Berseño.

Reynaldo Celaya: That's right, only her real name is Marcela.

Jack McCoy: But you still claim you're not guilty?

Reynaldo Celaya: That's right.

Matthew Clemens: It's what philosophers call a conundrum.

Edited January 9, 2018 by illdoc

[wknt3]

I don't really have any particular ideas for cases I want to see (except in the general sense of something other than he said she said where he is obviously guilty and they are both well off educated white people) but there are some episodes or story arcs I'd like to see.

1. The team working with a counselor from one of the social services agencies to try to find assistance for a victim in a particularly difficult situation. We see the counselor a few other times and eventually there is an episode where the squad and the counselor are in conflict because the squad wants to make an arrest and the counselor believes that the victim isn't in a condition to help them.

2. In an attempt to improve evidence collection CSU assigns a specialist to work in ERs at major hospitals. We get a reminder of just how tough it can be for someone who's just been through a traumatic experience to go through the process. We get a great courtroom scene when Buchanan challenges the physical evidence and gets his ass handed to him as Barba has been laying a trap knowing that it's a favorite trick and the expert is prepared. As a possible follow up we here that they are leaving the job because they can't deal with the stress of dealing with so many traumatized victims with only the abstract sense that they are helping to close cases and explore just how important being able to arrest/convict perps and do something direct is to the team in keeping their sanity and hope.

3. Benson gets into a fight with Vice after a crackdown on prostitution keeps the squad from getting their help from finding a serial rapist-murderer targeting hookers. She goes to Chief Dodds expecting backup and instead gets told she needs to learn to be a boss and work with other units instead of thinking like the hard charging detective she used to be. She eventually gets her way after going through channels and convincing the brass with Dodds' help that her case is more important (and telling them that a Ledger reporter has the story of the serial offender and she has been barely been able to keep at bay.) She thanks the Chief for his help and for the lesson and wonders how the reporter got the story - he just smiles and tells her that playing the game doesn't mean just toeing the line and accepting inaction on an important case because it's politically inconvenient.

4. Ripping from the headlines - the Chief of D's sets up a special team to handle the flood of high profile accusations of sexual assault and abuse against the famous, rich, and powerful. This creates conflict between the regular squad who feels they have proven themselves quite capable of handling these sorts of cases, have been overworked and understaffed for years now, etc. and the special team who feels they are just doing their job, that the the squad has pushed the envelope a bit too much and isn't building rock solid cases and counting on Benson getting a confession Barba saving them in the courtroom, while Benson is caught in the middle having to follow orders she doesn't like.

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A famous musician makes allegations on stage against a celebrity magician who had criticised his womanising lifestyle causing several accusers to come forward. The magician counters by staging a live lie detector test which he passes effortlessly. When he is charged he challenges the SVU team in a series of experiments to see if they can distinguish liars from truth tellers and they worry he is using subliminal influencing on the jury.

2. The famous actress mother of a man who killed himself after being accused of sexual harassment, ruining his career, launches a campaign. She hires male models to engage in the same sort of behaviour her son was accused off and films the accusers reacting in different ways depending on the attractiveness or invented background of the stooge.

3. A series of manipulated incidents generate mass hysteria in New York with various ethnic and religious groups pitted against one another, each convinced the other is sexually preying on their community. When Benson receives a cryptic message she begins to wonder if Merritt Rook really did die in that river?    

[Mislav]

Anyone remembers Darlie Routier case? I think something like that would work well for an SVU episode. I'm surprised they haven't done it already. I'm close to completing an SVU script based on it (not that the producers will ever hire me, of course).

[balmz]

21 minutes ago, Mislav said:

Anyone remembers Darlie Routier case? I think something like that would work well for an SVU episode. I'm surprised they haven't done it already. I'm close to completing an SVU script based on it (not that the producers will ever hire me, of course).

don't be too insecure, the writing is fairly terrible now so it wouldn't be a stretch that you get hired

 

 

 

anyway one idea i had was a serial child killer and rapist but it's a female not a male

[Mislav]

4 minutes ago, balmz said:

don't be too insecure, the writing is fairly terrible now so it wouldn't be a stretch that you get hired

 

 

 

anyway one idea i had was a serial child killer and rapist but it's a female not a male

I actually have that idea too, but for a "Criminal Minds" episode. The team has to catch a prolific female serial rapist who becomes active again after being dormant for five years. She targets teenagers, breaks into their rooms at night and videotapes her crimes.

[dttruman]

After reading all these suggestions & ideas, and by the way a lot them have merit. Even the writers (and /or the executive producers) of SVU have good ideas but some how the plot changes and goes in a completely different direction. About a year and a half ago they had a great story that involved city officials, the church, and sex trafficking should have been a strong four part series. Instead they condensed it down to two. The ones I hate with a passion are the ones that start off with a interesting crime, but then becomes a train wreck when they try to interrelate a personal crisis of one of the SVU members

[dttruman]

On 1/8/2018 at 7:27 PM, illdoc said:

Jack McCoy: Let me get this straight, Mr Celaya. You'll admit you killed Ana Berseño.

Reynaldo Celaya: That's right, only her real name is Marcela.

Jack McCoy: But you still claim you're not guilty?

Reynaldo Celaya: That's right.

Matthew Clemens: It's what philosophers call a conundrum.

Edited January 8 by illdoc.

If I remember right, Celaya says at the end I can sue you, the city (and this is the part I like), and anybody else I can think

Edited February 22, 2018 by dttruman

[dttruman]

On 1/12/2018 at 6:13 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

A famous musician makes allegations on stage against a celebrity magician who had criticised his womanising lifestyle causing several accusers to come forward. The magician counters by staging a live lie detector test which he passes effortlessly. When he is charged he challenges the SVU team in a series of experiments to see if they can distinguish liars from truth tellers and they worry he is using subliminal influencing on the jury.

I am a little confused here. Is the suspect a musician or a magician?

[Gigi43]

I don't  know  exactly what they would do with the story, and some of it could get into the territory of   episode where we found out Josh Pias' character had hard drives full of child porn, but the story of that Glee actor Mark Sailing just seems like something SVU should cover.  Especially because once he was found dead I was watching a local news show and there was a commercial  for one of those nightly entertainment shows that said they'll  cover "the tragic life of a Glee star", like he was a victim and didn't have 50,000 images of child porn he was awaiting sentence for. And I saw some people on Internet comments saying "but he didn't  TOUCH the children ", which if that's the level you have to build someone up, they're  pond scum. Someone I went to school with posted to Facebook an article about  his death and "suicide  is NEVER the answer", and I couldn't restrain myself I had to write back "he supported pedophiles. I only care what state of mind those poor children are in" (never got a response. ) I just found the whole reaction  baffling. Maybe I've  seen too many SVUS and other shows about  how those kids have such a hard time ever recovering. But I'd be fine with Benson reminding the world owning child porn does in fact make you a predator  even if you're  from a campy show that was a hit with young people for a time. Time to grow up and realize the role is not the person.

 

Also, I've  said it in other threads, "Competence " was a long time ago and they really have not touched the disabled and consent since. It's high time they do. Perhaps with an Autistic person being with someone nondisabled willingly but the parents are saying its a crime (or really was taken advantage  because of lack of information but thats pretty close to Competence.) Or two somehow disabled students, one who was allowed to stay at a school passed age 18, the other under 18, but the school or anyone else never bothered to try to teach going to school and eating lunch with someone does not mean you can "date." Something happens, the parents of the younger student (who perhaps has more mental functioning than the older one) wants prosecution but many able body/minded adults are the ones who dropped the ball, pushed an "we're all equal and friends" mantra with the students, blind to the concept that even young disabled people may have sex and weren't given a chance to know right from wrong  and ultimately created the situation.

Edited February 22, 2018 by Gigi43

[Willowsmom]

St Olivia finally flips and murders a perp that was aquitted. She's convicted. Fin retires, he, his son and son-in-law raise Noah to be a great guy. 

Oh and Barba comes out of retirement to prosecute her.

Edited February 24, 2018 by Willowsmom

[incandescent]

I'm shocked SVU never did a JonBenet Ramsey episode. I remember CI had one (with Liza Minelli!) but I'd like to see SVU's take on it.

[Joe Hellandback]

On ‎22‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 1:41 AM, dttruman said:

I am a little confused here. Is the suspect a musician or a magician?

The magician

On ‎22‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 9:25 PM, Willowsmom said:

St Olivia finally flips and murders a perp that was aquitted. She's convicted. Fin retires, he, his son and son-in-law raise Noah to be a great guy. 

Oh and Barba comes out of retirement to prosecute her.

Always thought that would be a great ending to the series, Benson is convicted of a sex crime and we never quite know if she's guilty or innocent, the final shot is of her in her cell contemplating her new life.   

[dttruman]

28 minutes ago, Joe Hellandback said:

The magician

I didn't know for sure. The musician because of his accusers or the magician for being libel or slandering the musician.

[balmz]

here's a horror story idea based off a story i once read, don\t know if it was true or not

 

 

at a high school 3 boys within  a month have gone missing, no one seems to know where they are, svu is overwhelmed with their cases and looking for the boys, later a 4th boy goes missing and they do find a link, this very petite and delicate teen female who seems to be able to evade notice and attention when she wants, the svu team interrogates her and does a search of her home and when they search some other property, they discover she had been kidnapping the boys, but it gets worse, she used her allure to get the boys to go out with her to a special location without telling anyone then she drugged them. She then raped them, tortured them, dismembered then and killed them in that order, meaning the boys were alive and aware when she slowly killed them, the team then finds a mass grave with the other 3 boys and they recover the 4th boy but he is in grave shape. When she is charged and interrogated they try to find out why she did, at this point we learn she did it plain and simple because she's a total sociopath, no excuses or sad stories or attempts to justify it, the boys weren't sexist pigs or evil or anything like svu has done before, no making it the boys raped her or did something bad like they have done with previous males, she did it plain and simply because it amused her and she felt like it   

[Xeliou66]

1 hour ago, balmz said:

here's a horror story idea based off a story i once read, don\t know if it was true or not

 

 

at a high school 3 boys within  a month have gone missing, no one seems to know where they are, svu is overwhelmed with their cases and looking for the boys, later a 4th boy goes missing and they do find a link, this very petite and delicate teen female who seems to be able to evade notice and attention when she wants, the svu team interrogates her and does a search of her home and when they search some other property, they discover she had been kidnapping the boys, but it gets worse, she used her allure to get the boys to go out with her to a special location without telling anyone then she drugged them. She then raped them, tortured them, dismembered then and killed them in that order, meaning the boys were alive and aware when she slowly killed them, the team then finds a mass grave with the other 3 boys and they recover the 4th boy but he is in grave shape. When she is charged and interrogated they try to find out why she did, at this point we learn she did it plain and simple because she's a total sociopath, no excuses or sad stories or attempts to justify it, the boys weren't sexist pigs or evil or anything like svu has done before, no making it the boys raped her or did something bad like they have done with previous males, she did it plain and simply because it amused her and she felt like it   

They did a similar story with the 2 girls who killed the Romani Gypsy boy because they were complete sociopaths and thought it was fun.

[Joe Hellandback]

1. After a suspect is exonerated by remarks made by an accuser on the web a judge rules that any victim's full internet and text history must be disclosed to the defence. As victims start withdrawing their allegations rather than have their private lives aired in public DA Stone has to find a way to revoke the decision before the SVU drown under all the computer evidence they now have to review.

2.  A rapist preys on a group of high class call-girls who cannot appear in court without losing their daytime careers/marriages. The case becomes even more complex when several turn out to be police women.

3.   A pair narcotics cops aid the SVU in apprehending a stranger rapist. However when the cops are charged with 'flaking' suspects their evidence is thrown out putting hundreds of convictions at risk. Meanwhile Noah's grandmother sends him gifts and letters using recently released prisoner friends, causing Benson to wonder if she can ever entirely shut her out of her son's life. 

4.  The SVU is ordered to take part in a reality TV show where a celebrity jury must decide if a fictional defendant is guilty or not. But when a real rapist is caught he cites the show as his inspiration as part of his defence. 

5. Fin's son returns to help in the hunt for an aerial drone voyeur who has become an internet sensation. Meanwhile Carisi becomes involved with a group campaigning for reform of the NYPD putting his career at risk but is then approached by Internal Affairs to be a mole within the group. 

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A group of women from a 3rd world country accuse their aid worker husbands of raping them and keeping them as economic slaves. This creates chaos within their immigrant community as the charity withdraws from their home country, causing a humanitarian disaster and other aid worker wives contradict their story. Fin is pitted against the rest of the team as he had 'girlfriends' under similar circumstances during his military service abroad.   

2. The SVU arrest a night bus driver who preyed on lone drunk female passengers. However it is revealed that he had been reported multiple times in various jurisdictions and the different police forces had never put it together. Some of the victims sue the NYPD for not solving their case sooner and when the judge rules in their favour Stone must have the decision reversed before the justice system is bankrupted by the financial damages.

3.  A transgender woman is arrested at a protest and her DNA matches up to an unsolved rape committed when she was a man. However the case becomes a cause celebre as she argues that the person who committed the crime no longer exists and that she too has experienced rape as a woman.

4. A woman who accused an exiled Russian oligarch of rape collapses and dies of an apparent heart attack. Yet a voyeur who had been watching her insists he saw her shot at close range by a man with a handgun. Dr Warner returns to try to discover the true cause of death as the shadow of Cold War espionage stalks the streets of New York.

5. A former porn 'actress' who had made allegations of an affair with a rich and influential politician is found raped. Was this the work of her ex, his supporters or a deliberate frame job in order to cost him the election?      

[WendyCR72]

The trouble with #5 is, NBC would never show it. This show already has one "lost" episode based on you-know-who.

[Xeliou66]

I would like to see an episode dealing with the epidemic of hazing deaths that have happened at fraternities, they’ve touched on it somewhat before but it would be a good episode now, perhaps something like this :

A young man is found dead in Central Park with signs of rape before death,  Dr Warner helps determine the cause of death, and the investigation leads SVU to a disturbing hazing ritual at the fraternity the deceased was pledging. When suspects are arrested, Stone and DA McCoy decide to indict them for 1st degree murder to send a message that the epidemic of hazing deaths will not be taken lightly and needs to stop, and Stone has a difficult case to make facing Buchanan who is representating the fraternity members at trial. 

[Joe Hellandback]

19 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

The trouble with #5 is, NBC would never show it. This show already has one "lost" episode based on you-know-who.

Oh but could play around with it, make the politician Afro-American, achingly liberal and a supporter of Benson's good causes. 

[Joe Hellandback]

1. An all-female recreation of the Stanford experiment results in one of the inmates being raped. At the trial the rapist then blames the conditions of the experiment for forcing her to act as she did.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

2.  A recently released ex-felon takes a rape survivors group hostage and demands his conviction for rape be annulled. He demands to talk to a male officer and when Benson refuses to hand the phone over he kills a hostage causing a rift between her and Finn. 

3. The SVU work with the FBI/Department of Diplomatic Security when the teenage sons of an ambassador of a country wracked by civil war (Burma, Yemen etc) are kidnapped, the hostage takers demanding the end to gang rapes by the military or they will rape them and publish the video on the internet. Events take an even more sinister turn when the secret police of the country (with diplomatic immunity) start terrorising the immigrant community in New York and take their own hostages in retaliation. Then Finn realises an old Army buddy of his who worked as a mercenary in the conflict is involved but which side is he working for?

4. Rape survivors groups begin to picket cinemas showing old movies portraying un-PC scenes (the Vikings, Gone with the Wind, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, Gwendolyn, The Long Ships etc). When the protests turn violent the FBI demand the SVU help them infiltrate the groups which they are reluctant to do. But then the statue of a former slave owner is blown up and replaced by one dedicated to the slaves he raped the cat is truly pitched amongst the pigeons.   

[shapeshifter]

On March 19, 2018 at 4:28 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

a country wracked by civil war (Burma, Yemen etc) are kidnapped, the hostage takers demanding the end to gang rapes by the military

So would they name the fictionalized country "Benem" or "Hudsonia"? 

[Joe Hellandback]

22 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

So would they name the fictionalized country "Benem" or "Hudsonia"? 

How about Val Verde? (a prize for whoever can get that reference!)

[shapeshifter]

Too easy!

[Joe Hellandback]

Don't wake my friend, he's dead tired. 

[CelticBlackCat]

On 3/26/2018 at 3:31 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

How about Val Verde? (a prize for whoever can get that reference!)

Val Verde:  A fictional country or city located in Central and South America used by Steven E. de Souza, a writer and producer, when he doesn't want to get entangled in legal or diplomatic problems.

Val Verde:  A real city in Los Angeles County, zip code 91384.

Val Verde is Spanish for green valley.  There is a Val Verde County in Texas.

Google is my friend.  What's my prize, Joe?

:D

I was thinking of a sleepy coastal town, Saint Olivia-by-the-Sea.

[shapeshifter]

3 hours ago, CelticBlackCat said:

I was thinking of a sleepy coastal town, Saint Olivia-by-the-Sea.

Or: San Là Via

[QueenMab]

.....or Benson, New York. Guess the whole state worships her. :)

[Joe Hellandback]

10 hours ago, CelticBlackCat said:

Val Verde:  A fictional country or city located in Central and South America used by Steven E. de Souza, a writer and producer, when he doesn't want to get entangled in legal or diplomatic problems.

Val Verde:  A real city in Los Angeles County, zip code 91384.

Val Verde is Spanish for green valley.  There is a Val Verde County in Texas.

Google is my friend.  What's my prize, Joe?

:D

I was thinking of a sleepy coastal town, Saint Olivia-by-the-Sea.

I pronounce you legend-wait for it-dary!

[Mislav]

I recently remembered the "Rumble", an episode from the original "Law & Order". A murderer is acquitted and the victim's family beats him to death in front of the courthouse. McCoy decides to not only charge them with murder, but with terrorism also, since he argues that they were sending a political message by beating the victim to death in front of the courthouse, and because innocent people got injured (or even killed?) in the process. My memory of the episode is a bit fuzzy, but that was the gist.

Even though I am not a fan of recycled storylines, I wonder if something similar could work on SVU. Three women, sexual assault survivors, murder three different sex offenders on public locations. Maybe the men who abused them, or maybe not sex offenders but the men accused of sex crimes, only not convicted yet, to make the case a bit more morally ambiguous. (Not sure why would SVU be investigating that though; maybe they are investigating a rape case, go question a registered sex offender living close to the crime scene, and stumble upon a murder?) Maybe some innocent people get hurt or killed in the process, and maybe the murderers then post a manifesto online, containing details about the murders, as well as revealing semi-political motives (maybe arguing that rape is an under prosecuted crime; that thousands of rape kits collected in the state of New York alone, some going back decades, still haven't been processed due to a lack of funding and personnel; that sex offender laws aren't strict enough, and that the murders were necessary to start a "great change"?). After the murderers are tracked down and arrested, the DA decides to charge them with murder, conspiracy to commit murder-and, based on the circumstances surrounding the murders (nature of the crimes, political element, collateral victims), terrorism. Lots of questions being raised: did the victims deserve to die? Were the perpetrators' actions, no matter how cruel and dangerous, still justified or even necessary, at least in part? And, even if those women are criminals, and both legally and morally in the wrong, are they terrorists?

In the end, the women are found not guilty on all counts; in part due to a sympathetic jury, in part due to flimsy evidence. The DA admits that was his fault, and that he probably should have prosecuted them for murder and conspiracy to commit murder only. But as the killers leave the courthouse, they are killed in a drive-by shooting by an unidentified assailant, implying that the circle will continue. The message would be pretty clear: even if you can argue that violence is warranted and necessary, it is ultimately self-destructive and dangerous, and doesn't really fix anything. It would also be the kind of ending where nobody wins, for a change. The victims, as evil as they might have been, are dead, the jury not only failed to recognize the perpetrators' actions as terrorism but basically let them get away with murder (x3), and though all three murderers were found not guilty, they got killed only few minutes later. The circle continues. Violence breeds more violence. You reap what you sow.

[Xeliou66]

I would like to see an episode based on the case in Texas where a girl was abused by her parents for refusing an arranged marriage and ran away, and the parents said she was kidnapped, that would be an interesting SVU case. However for obvious reasons it goes against the shows SJW agenda, so I doubt they would ever do it.

[Joe Hellandback]

1.  A hit new TV comedy features a womanising character who blatantly lies to and manipulates women in order to have sex with them (think Barney Stinson, Joey Tribbiani, Sam Malone, Charlie Harper). He becomes a cult icon and a wave of copycat frat boys lead to sex crime allegations. Should the SVU join in the wave of protests trying to get the network to censor the show? Especially as Stone is a fan of it?

2. The team work with the ATF as a series of bomb attacks target forensic labs, rape crisis centres and victim support groups. Is it an ideological terrorist, a vengeful rapist or is someone trying to hide a wider agenda by laying a false trail? Meanwhile the SVU has to cope with the fallout from victims whose cases are having to be discontinued because the evidence is destroyed and appeals from convicted prisoners whose forensics can no longer be used against them at court.

3. ISIS/Boko Haram publish videos that appear to show American teenage girls being snatched off the streets of New York and sold in slave auctions in Africa/Syria. Outrage and hysteria sweep the city and when alleged escapees from the gang turns up the FBI work with the SVU to try to find out if this is real or an elaborate hoax?

4. A 'gentleman rapist' starts raping shut-in women, agoraphobics who cannot bear to leave their flats, thinking he is doing them a favour. When the case comes to court he claims he gave them the choice of fleeing or staying with him for sex, therefore giving implied consent.

5.  A school mass-shooting rocks New York, the SVU team asked to help out the investigation using their expertise at interviewing traumatised victims. However when the school is cleared and a gun and suspect's clothing found hidden the SVU begin to wonder if one of their witnesses might actually be killer?   

[shapeshifter]

On March 30, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

2. The team work with the ATF as a series of bomb attacks target forensic labs, rape crisis centres and victim support groups. Is it an ideological terrorist, a vengeful rapist or is someone trying to hide a wider agenda by laying a false trail? Meanwhile the SVU has to cope with the fallout from victims whose cases are having to be discontinued because the evidence is destroyed and appeals from convicted

And then a year later they can revisit the incident when there is reason to believe someone was wrongfully convicted without DNA evidence ever having been tested. 

[Joe Hellandback]

• 1. Stone is contacted by Internal Affairs to work with them after they receive credible information that a New York SVU detective is sabotaging investigations for $50,000 a pop. He goes undercover for them and get's to know the members of the unit better, with some surprising revelations about their private lives.
• 2. A series of rapes against poor, African-American women is complicated by a copycat who targets rich white girls using the same MO and signature. When the copycat is brought to trial he claims he was motivated by a desire to show how differently the police/criminal justice system/media/society treat people due to their race, class, attractiveness etc
• 3. The latest internet craze is the '$15,000 slut challenge'. A website publishes a location and some cryptic clues about the identity of a person at the scene, if a contestant has sex with the right person they win the cash reward ($5000 for oral, another $5000 for vaginal, another $5000 for anal). The SVU is deluged with claims of rape from contestants who had sex with wrong person (guys flooding the area pretending to be the target in the hope of getting lucky) whilst Stone struggles in court to have the site shut down as a form of prostitution. 

Edited April 9, 2018 by Joe Hellandback
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