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Beyond The Wall: The Culture of The Handmaid's Tale

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I need to give a second viewing of the last episode, but it seemed like every black person at the Canadian rally was holding up a photograph of a white or non-black person and I laughed really hard at that scene. I thought, “damn, nobody cared when we went missing before either.” 

And for not too distant past historical parallels... Re: the letters. During and after the civil war, formerly enslaved Africans desperately put ads in newspapers to locate their children, parents, spouses, siblings, etc. who had been sold away from them like cattle. Unfortunately, most freedmen were illiterate.

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I'm behind on the episodes so, I just watched "Other Women". The scene with Luke's first wife and June in combination with the scene of June overhearing Luke  saying how his first wife means nothing; especially in light of casting all other couples with a black person as interracial. Ugh. They really need more non-white decision makers in the room on this thing.

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On 6/21/2018 at 12:34 PM, red12 said:

I'm behind on the episodes so, I just watched "Other Women". The scene with Luke's first wife and him saying how she means nothing; especially in light of casting all other couples with a black person as interracial. Ugh. They really need more non-white decision makers in the room on this thing.

Thank you!

 

I'm not black but I was really offended by that comment of Luke's. "June's white so she must be right."

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On 6/5/2017 at 3:41 PM, Stillhoping said:

I have a real logistic problem with the Boston setting... All the Irish Americans....the Southies.  Catholics .  and then the progressive liberal university people...and old money rich peeps.   Why Boston?

I can imagine the fundamental Bible thumping in a Southern state but not Boston. What happened to all the pubs?

I know I need to just go with it, but I have a hard time with this post-America Gilead society totally dumping Jesus.  I mean all those Jesus lovers of all Christian faiths all over the US would be okay to just forget the Jesus part of the bible?  The whole religion seems very Old Testament aka freaky/extreme Jewish.  

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well fundamentalist religions of all stripes do seem to be more into the "thou shalt not" rather than the "thou shalt." But yeah, you'd think Boston would be a tough sell for this brand of religion.

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On ‎7‎.‎5‎.‎2017 at 8:24 PM, NorthstarATL said:

her genes seem to be recessive, as the child she gave birth to looks nothing like her, so she would be perfect for a world where any progeny would be easy enough to pass off as not hers. 

That the eldest child doesn't look like her mother, is no guarantee that the second child couldn't. 

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On ‎6‎.‎6‎.‎2017 at 12:57 AM, EC Amber said:

According to an interview she gave to the New York Times, Atwood made this choice because of the region's Puritan background and history of intolerance:

"You often hear in North America, "It can't happen here," but it happened quite early on. The Puritans banished people who didn't agree with them, so we would be rather smug to assume that the seeds are not there. That's why I set the book in Cambridge."

I don't think that what happened in Cambridge in the 17th century is a very valid reason. Instead, opposing "It'can't happen here" is such. Setting the story in the Bible belt wouldn make it seem "doesn't concern us".

However, I wonder why in the US that differed religion from the state in her constitution people are more religious that in Western Europe? Also, why in a state that is leading in science which is based on reason, there are so many people that believe in Creationism?    

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On ‎9‎.‎5‎.‎2017 at 11:44 PM, Eyes High said:

The baby graphic chart in 1x01 showed either a birthrate decline or a decline in (I assume US) births between 1960 and 2015 of 95%. That would mean that the birthrate would have dropped from 24 births to a 1.2 births per 1,000 population (as a point of comparison, the lowest national birthrate in the real world is six births per 1,000 population) or 215,000 US live births overall (compared to 3.9 million live births in real world US 2016). Of those live births, only one in five births result in viable babies in the show, so the real number is more like 0.24 viable US births per 1,000 population, or 43,000 viable US births per year. For the whole country.

If things really got to be that bad, and in the show universe it seems as if they did (June fretting about five women at her office having late-term miscarriages, the empty hospital nursery, etc.), then it's no wonder the Commanders and Wives were willing to handwave their preference for white babies.

But if the problem is low fertility, the system of hand-maids is a bad solution. It's likely to produce a few children because many Commanders are probably infertile.

Instead, fertile women and men could have benefits by getting more children and they could also be paid to donate or even be ordered to hand over eggs and sperm to create to test tube childen for infertile couples.    

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Anyone else kind of shudder that THE BOSTON GLOBE started the campaign or movement to counteract attacks on the press, and that their editorial is titled Journalists are not the enemy today? 

It's giving me some scary flashbacks to the show, and Elizabeth discovering all the dead in the Boston Globe. 

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Sperm Count Dropping in Western World  The trend has occurred over 40 years\

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LONDON (Reuters) - Sperm counts in men from America, Europe, Australia and New Zealand have dropped by more than 50 percent in less than 40 years, researchers said on Tuesday.

Sperm Count Zero

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A strange thing has happened to men over the past few decades: We’ve become increasingly infertile, so much so that within a generation we may lose the ability to reproduce entirely. What’s causing this mysterious drop in sperm counts—and is there any way to reverse it before it’s too late?

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Sperm Count Zero

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A strange thing has happened to men over the past few decades: We’ve become increasingly infertile, so much so that within a generation we may lose the ability to reproduce entirely. What’s causing this mysterious drop in sperm counts—and is there any way to reverse it before it’s too late?

The least controversial of the current news reminding me of The Handmaid's Tale.

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Within a generation, we may lose the ability to reproduce entirely.

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Oklahoma Lawmaker: Men Must Approve Abortion; Women Are ‘Hosts’

I understand that they feel like that is their body. I feel like it is a separate — what I call them is, is you’re a ‘host.’

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2017/02/oklahoma-lawmaker-men-must-approve-abortion-women-hosts/?fbclid=IwAR1iQzIWOnRXxk1pl1BJL0yUII6RbHXkOkdJMBCvhlGZBDkzwp9803GiO7M

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