S04.E06: To Liver And Die In Charleston

[Tara Ariano]

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Shep receives shocking news about his health and realizes he needs to cut back on partying; Austen and Chelsea's romantic bond grows stronger; Thomas and Landon's connection is tested during a casual dinner at Patricia's house; Jennifer hosts a Sip and See to celebrate her new baby; Craig finally seals the deal on an investment property while his relationship with Naomie continues to crumble.

[slowpoked]

Preview:

http://www.bravotv.com/southern-charm/season-4/episode-6/videos/if-thomas-and-landon-got-married-would-he-have-a-prenup

Really rich of Whitney to dismiss Landon's dating of Drew as like "dating a bimbo", when him and his friends -Thomas and Shep - have shared fillies amongst the three of them, in some cases in a span of a week.

[RedDelicious]

1.) All of the Dodie Thayer. 

2.) All of the food in Landon's mouth.

[Mindthinkr]

I couldn't believe Cameran was listing what Craig couldn't do at the same time while showing him the first house. Hmm...out of the four things she listed he did accomplish three. I think he just works better under pressure. 

[bosawks]

If over 200 grand is a "Vienna sausage" budget then get me a can opener!

[Mindthinkr]

Charleston is a pricey place. Went to stay at a good hotel down there and was looking at $800/night. My head (and budget) kicked inand found a more reasonable place. Did stay at Charleston Place once but shared the room with some coworkers. 

[Eater of Worlds]

Holy Cow Craig.  Naomi isn't allowed to talk to anyone about her relationship with Craig, ever?  Craig can talk to Cameran about his relationship though.  That's a bit possessive isn't it, plus childish.

[Emmeline]

1)   I want to eat like Cam and be that tiny.

2)  Thomas is a moron to say he wouldn't need Landon to sign a prenup if they were to marry.  Good for Patricia for telling him he needed one regardless of who he married.

3)  Landon is a pretentious Gold Digger.

Edited May 9, 2017 by Emmeline

[whydoievencare]

Both Craig and Landon have the worst voices - THE WORST - kind of nasal, kind of whiny.  I love that someone (I think it was Acid Burn) said of Landon (previous episode) that she "meowed".  I've sometimes thought she sounds like W.C. Fields, but "meowed" is kind of perfect.  

Edited May 9, 2017 by whydoievencare
To give credit where credit is due

[Primetimer]

So it's fine to embarrass your girlfriend in public as long as you think you're right?

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[tinaw]

Craig is a spoiled brat. Naomi, run like heck girl

[RedDelicious]

Craig is forever a whiny prick to me and he doesn't know how to manage verbal conflict like an adult. With such lack of skill I picture him being laughed right out of the courtroom. Grow up Craig. 

[Babyfoot]

I could watch an entire episode - actually an entire series-  of Cameran dining in haunted Charleston restaurants with her hoo doo doll.

[Gem 10]

Looks to me like Craig is having some sort of mental breakdown.

[mjstrick]

I have remained in Craig's corner throughout all of the crap of the past several seasons, but he lost me tonight with his dick behavior.  Always thought his heart was in the right place.  But he's treating Naomi like shit and I just can't.

[mbaywife123]

Loved Patricia's "cabbage patch " theamed dinner party.

I want one of those turtle bells ASAP!

[scenicbyway]

I love Cam saying that she did a bunch of stuff she didn't want to do for her husband and her husband did stuff he didn't want to do for her because that's what marriage is.  Truth!

Craig ain't ready for marriage.

[mbaywife123]

3 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

I love Cam saying that she did a bunch of stuff she didn't want to do for her husband and her husband did stuff he didn't want to do for her because that's what marriage is.  Truth!

Craig ain't ready for marriage.

Yep, it's called leave your ego at the door on the way in or it's going to hurt like hell when it smacks you in the ass on the way out.

[bravofan27]

I saw Kathryn give a genuine happy smile when she saw Shep come in to do yoga. That was nice to see. Interesting that both Shep and Cameron called each other bored in the same segment. Although, the fact Cameron has time to drive around and buy weird dolls for people to fall in love does show that she has LOOOTS of time on her hands. The episode was actually set up nicely-- Shep have liver problems, right when Kathryn wants to be sober, so now he can do yoga. Perfect timing. Then Patricia and Whitney are hard core hooking up Thomas and Landon, RIGHT when Kathryn, who they detest, is back in town. If Kathryn didn't despise Landon, and if Whitney and Patricia didn't despise Kathryn, I doubt anyone would care. I see nothing about Landon and Thomas that suggests any chemistry. I think Thomas is just wanting a blowjob. Another one.

Patricia's dog and butler both need a diet. Everyone on this show needs a real life. 

I get that Craig is pissed that Naomi is talking shit about him, but he is the one acting like a little kid, refusing to answer questions and wanting constant admiration. I did not get anything that he was trying to do. He is losing his mind. 

[Suck It Trebek]

Hey there, Shep! Welcome to being an adult and not scratching every itch, whether it be booze or women. You're knocking on 40's door so it's about damn time.

[Bronzedog]

Craig has a real problem "adulting".  He's a childish prick.

I am jealous though that he found a nice single family home for $183k.  We don't have those in DC.  

[RedDelicious]

16 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

Loved Patricia's "cabbage patch " theamed dinner party.

It's Dodie Thayer - Tory just did a collab with her to bring it back but I'm confident Pat's is original!

[bichonblitz]

19 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

Craig ain't ready for marriage.

Craig ain't even ready for a girlfriend. 

[njbchlover]

17 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

I love Cam saying that she did a bunch of stuff she didn't want to do for her husband and her husband did stuff he didn't want to do for her because that's what marriage is.  Truth!

Craig ain't ready for marriage.

I was not impressed with Craig tonight - he was back to being immature and childish Craig.  

Good for Naomi for leaving without him to go to the Sip 'n See.  If he is habitually late, he deserves to be left home.  And, he doesn't see that what he does is inconsiderate, but yet, lashes out at her for leaving him?  

[bichonblitz]

Thomas looks bored to death with Landon. That love connection is a joke. 

[mbaywife123]

2 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

It's Dodie Thayer - Tory just did a collab with her to bring it back but I'm confident Pat's is original!

Thanks RedDelicious, Patricia's are probably vintage originals.

Now where the hell can I get one of those turtle bells?

[njbchlover]

4 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

It's Dodie Thayer - Tory just did a collab with her to bring it back but I'm confident Pat's is original!

I looked that china up - wow....it's expensive!!  Very pretty, though! 

[Sun-Bun]

Sober and goofy Shep kinda won me over tonight---we may know him mostly as a drunken womanizer, but he's actually far more entertaining when he's simply hanging out without any booze around and being his charmingly cheerful self.  Looks like he's willing to give yoga and other NA activities a whirl and he seemed way more comfortable and natural holding babies and interacting with children than even Whitney and T-Rav. Maybe there's hope for him yet before he turns into a 50-year-old man with no shoelaces!

On the flipside, who knew Craig could be such a royal dick?! The way he was talking down to Naomi was beyond rude---I hope the tension between them was just ramped up for the cameras because that was just so embarrassing to watch. When he mentioned how she was "acting like a child" or a teenager, I snorted at the TV, "You mean like how YOU'RE acting right now?!" I've rooted for the guy for a while now, but he totally lost me with his cruelty towards her tonight.

Cameron was spot on with her assessment of marriage---if you don't know how to compromise and respectfully communicate with your partner, you have absolutely no business ever attempting to marry your partner.

And FINALLY a Patricia-laden episode!!! Such a consummate, considerate and elegant hostess. I just finished reading her book, and it was absolutely fascinating, just filled with all sorts of fun personal andecdotes and tips and recipes. That lady truly is one in a trillion and thus I'll always love Whitney for introducing his fabulous mother to the rest of the world.

Also, "Southern Charm Savannah"??? Zzzzzz....what a bunch of lame try-hards, but I'll watch it strictly for the scenery/home porn.

Edited May 9, 2017 by Sun-Bun

[Pickles]

Not to derail, but Southern Charm Savannah was not good! . Everyone was very aware of the cameras and appeared to be putting on a show. Painful to watch.

okay, back to Charleston!

[Bronzedog]

Yes, Savannah was horrible and long.  Very long.

it was sad watching the repeat scene of Shep at the doctor knowing the young assistant died shortly after that.

[mbaywife123]

Patricia, Whitney doesn't feel the urgent need to settle down and have children with his "time" running out because he is GAY!

Edited May 9, 2017 by mbaywife123
One is is enough and forgot the word he.

[jaybird2]

7 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Yes, Savannah was horrible and long.  Very long.

it was sad watching the repeat scene of Shep at the doctor knowing the young assistant died shortly after that.

what happened

[sasha206]

27 minutes ago, Sun-Bun said:

And FINALLY a Patricia-laden episode!!! Such a consummate, considerate and elegant hostess. I just finished reading her book, and it was absolutely fascinating, just filled with all sorts of fun personal andecdotes and tips and recipes. That lady truly is one in a trillion and thus I'll always love Whitney for introducing his fabulous mother to the rest of the world.

I absolutely adore her! I would love to see her on RHONY.

This show though.  It's become way too try hard.  I mean the storyline of Cameran trying to settle Shep down.  Enough already.

[Bronzedog]

8 minutes ago, jaybird2 said:

what happened

I read that she had a cerebral hemorrhage and died not long after that was filmed.

[mbaywife123]

Thomas and Landon remind me of an old land line trying to connect with the newest iPhone. Totally incompatible.

[sasha206]

1 minute ago, Bronzedog said:

I read that she had a cerebral hemorrhage and died not long after that was filmed.

How awful!

[jaybird2]

4 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I read that she had a cerebral hemorrhage and died not long after that was filmed.

how sad

[breezy424]

Really Craig?  Just wow with the name calling on Naomi. 

TRav and Landon is such a 'storyline' for the show, it's really pathetic. 

I was a bit worried for Kensie because there didn't seem to be an assigned person to watch her.  People were inside and outside.  TRav was just doing 'his' thing.  Maybe the nanny was in the background.

And yeah, it was so sad to see the tech again after learning that she died from a cerebral hemorrhage. 

[sasha206]

17 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

Patricia, Whitney doesn't feel the urgent need to settle down and have children with his "time" running out because he is GAY!

Funny, I get more of a gay vibe off Craig than I do Whitney!

[Bronzedog]

Craig - "I'm happy in my own world ". True dat.

[mbaywife123]

Michael, Michael, YooHoo. Well let me just go get him , I don't like people who yell.

Michael, break out that Costco (tm) liquor!

6 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

Funny, I get more of a gay vibe off Craig than I do Whitney!

Well Nomi did ask him why he was being so "prissy".

[sasha206]

I feel bad for saying this but wow, Austen's mom.  He's the spitting image of her but slightly better looking.

[ninjago]

2 hours ago, Emmeline said:

 Landon is a pretentious Gold Digger.

To be fair, it's not just gold digging.  

She is comparable to the women on Basketball Wives-a comparison I am sure Landon would love!: she wants to marry into a specific, exclusive segment of society and lifestyle that money alone cannot get you access to.  She had a rich husband, but he had to work and, I'm guessing, he expected her to be independent enough to occupy herself.  

She wants a husband who is independently wealthy so he can travel with her and they can spend half the year in Boca Raton and the other half hosting polo matches and going to galas and other archaic bullshit.  Sound like anyone?

I do think she's really upped the putting on airs about how she's to the manor born.  Wasn't she basically middle/upper middle class, growing up on Jekyll Island?  Wasn't her dad a salesman or something?  

[mbaywife123]

Shep, thank you for rembering to zip your pants up on your way into the party. 

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, sasha206 said:

Funny, I get more of a gay vibe off Craig than I do Whitney!

I don't know if you've watched since the beginning, but Whitney is constantly dropping nasty barbs about not being gay and is completely crass about and towards women. In the season 1 or 2 reunion, Whitney starts making fun of Craig for interacting with his gay fans. Whitney implies that Craig must be gay because Craig will tweet to his gay fans. It all comes across like over compensation and gay panic. Whitney is so defensive and incensed about the idea that any of them could be hanging with gay people. This is especially ironic because Whitney spent many years working on a documentary of gay fashion designer, Halston.

[zoeysmom]

Naomie and Craig, that was uncomfortable.  Their communication sucks.  Naomie, who for the most part is likable needs to listen when Craig answers her question.  It was entirely logical to say he wanted to pass the bar before making any decision regarding practicing law.  If she finds everything he does so unsettling she needs to move on.    I really don't think Cameran has any business discussing her client's purchase with his girlfriend.  Not sure why Naomie is so dead set against Craig investing his money in real estate.  A rental property should not be all that time consuming.  She seemed more concerned they weren't invited to Patricia's than anything else. 

I have to agree with Craig, with this crew the last thing he needs is Naomie picking him apart.  I get they are trying to break Craig's constant tardiness and maybe this is the wake up call.  Best advice I ever got was someone telling me that when ideas are presented by your spouse, tell them your spouse they always have your support and then present your opinion.  These are two bright educated individuals they will get far more out of life if they support each other and discuss their concerns about the other's plans.

A few more scenes like tonight's and Craig and Naomie are going to be the next Kathryn and Thomas, where no one wants to be around their bickering.  Hope they work it out. 

[izabella]

O Craig!  You had me dying with laughter watching you embroider cats onto pillowcases, and then you had to ruin it.  I'm glad Cam was real with him about what it takes to be married. 

Shep blending smoothies was almost as funny as Craig with the sewing machine.  Cats! 

Edited May 9, 2017 by izabella

[Nancypants]

1 hour ago, jaybird2 said:

how sad

Who?

[scrb]

By the end of the season, things won't be tense, because it's all been for the cameras.

If they were constantly sniping at each other they'd have announced on social media that they're done.

 

The other story lines are no more convincing.  Shep made a crack about the doll Cam got for him being something out of a horror movie.

He also noted how bored she must be to meddle in his life.

[JenE4]

3 hours ago, scrb said:

  Shep made a crack about the doll Cam got for him being something out of a horror movie.

That was the genuine LOL moment of the night for me: Cam explaining that when he finds his unicorn, he leaves this creepy doll on her doorstep, and Shep's voiceover, "If you leave this doll on someone's doorstep, you're going to have a problem with the local detective." True that! Could you imagine stepping out to grab your mail and seeing THAT on your steps?!?! You got yourself a murderous stalker, not a true love match!