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Yes, fungus on toes, especially the nail is very common.

Toenails ick me out.  I really didn't need to know this information about her, or have the camera zoom in on her toes.  I clean teeth all day long, and I can handle that.  Toenails?  Not so much. 

I love LuAnn's house in Sag Harbor.  It looks cozy.    I think I'll call her Captain Countess LuAnn.  She was pretty good at steering the boat.

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11 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

Yes, fungus on toes, especially the nail is very common.  I've had it and was told to stop polishing my toe nails in the winter.  They need to breathe.  It's not a big deal.

I developed the problem due to the style of the day; "Miami Vice" back in the mid 80's with leather shoes and no socks! The stupidest thing to do since a pint sweat is created during a day! You need socks and to not wear shoes altogether to let that thing breathe! lol! ;-)

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1 minute ago, WireWrap said:

Last season Bethenny said that she/Shields were talking marriage but he would need to be divorced first for that to happen! If you are not divorced, no matter what you may "think", you are still legally "married"! Sorry, (not sorry), this, they are "taking a break" crap, is so that he doesn't have to appear on camera and nothing more and to keep any talk about him/her off camera as well. Bethenny wants to put the others private lives on blast but refuses them to do it to hers. If she won't/can't share her private life (not including Bryn here) then get off of reality TV. Oh, wait, she tried that route and fell flat on her face! LOL

Yes, still legally married. On paper. Which is what I said. I think it is smart of Beth and Dennis to take it slow - certainly smarter than Lu and Tom rushing into marriage. But that's just me. I really don't care if Beth's love life is on TV. So far we have not seen Tom or Dorinda's boyfriend this season and I don't care if we do. In fact prefer it if we don't. Some men end up thinking they are one of the housewives - like PK on RHOBH. Go away. Just like I don't care to see Dorinda's annoying daughter or Victoria. Just. Don't Care. 

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Just now, UsernameFatigue said:

Yes, still legally married. On paper. Which is what I said. I think it is smart of Beth and Dennis to take it slow - certainly smarter than Lu and Tom rushing into marriage. But that's just me. I really don't care if Beth's love life is on TV. So far we have not seen Tom or Dorinda's boyfriend this season and I don't care if we do. In fact prefer it if we don't. Some men end up thinking they are one of the housewives - like PK on RHOBH. Go away. Just like I don't care to see Dorinda's annoying daughter or Victoria. Just. Don't Care. 

The guys don't have to be on camera but they are still fair game as far as the women talking about them, as evidence by Bethenny, Carole, Sonja and Ramona talking about Tom ad nauseam in just these first 3 episodes alone. Bethenny demands her entire private life be off limits to everyone else except her/Carole.

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7 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

The guys don't have to be on camera but they are still fair game as far as the women talking about them, as evidence by Bethenny, Carole, Sonja and Ramona talking about Tom ad nauseam in just these first 3 episodes alone. Bethenny demands her entire private life be off limits to everyone else except her/Carole.

Beth's private life has been talked about on the show, including last year's reunion. Lu on the other hand - I would imagine she has it written into her contract that Tom has to be a part of the show, if not on it. He is how she has kept her apple.  I don't think grovelling, homeless Lu was that appealing to many. 

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4 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Bethenny, any day of the week. But then I have always been independent, and never needed or wanted a man to make me happy. Lu is the last person I would want to be. I find women who cannot live without a man pathetic. Maybe it is because you are a male that you think Tom is a catch, but speaking from a woman's (or at least my) POV, he isn't. And being a "confirmed bachelor" means nothing. There could be a whole line of women who rejected him before he married Lu at age 50. I think Bethenny would be the last person who would be jealous of Lu and Tom. Well maybe second last, behind me.

She can get behind me too. I like Lu and think she would be a complete blast to hang out with, but I can't get with her need to always have a man. Don't get me started on Tom. I want better for her.

54 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Ramona should send Nicole Kidman a letter of concern and ask her how she is explaining her role on the limited TV series "Big Little Lies" to her girls. The sex scenes certainly left nothing to the imagination - nudity and grinding included. Lol. I think Nicole's kids are 9 and 7, so Ramona should be concerned. Come to think if it, in another HBO show Girls, Lena Dunham is naked more than she is clothed. Lots of grinding there, too. Maybe Bethenny should pedal her movie to HBO? 

That was my first thought. I certainly didn't think of BLL as soft core porn, but there was an awful lot of nudity, grinding, not to mention violence. The thing about B's movie was just as she said - it was cheesy and therefore embarrassing. Personally, I think it's a big tadoo about nothing. 

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2 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Beth's private life has been talked about on the show, including last year's reunion. Lu on the other hand - I would imagine she has it written into her contract that Tom has to be a part of the show, if not on it. He is how she has kept her apple.  I don't think grovelling, homeless Lu was that appealing to many. 

2 reunions ago, no mention was made about that BF and no one was allowed to discuss/comment about the divorce/custody other than Bethenny or Carole. Luann did bring up that Bethenny was dating a married man and that she is the reason his marriage broke up, Bethenny called someone she claimed was Shields daughter but that was it. And, I don't blame Luann for using it after what Bethenny called her all season long considering Bethenny was dating him when she went off on Luann at Dorinda's "I made it nice" party. BUT, no one really talked about her then ongoing divorce. Bethenny simply does not allow it and the others (except Luann) fear her enough to obey her commands.

Luann got her apple back in full the season after she lost it (about 4 seasons ago) and has not been in jeopardy of losing it since, especially since she is the only one not afraid to take Bethenny on. But fear of losing ones apple may well be why Ramona is jumping off of team Bethenny's ship. Bethenny doesn't need another side kick, Carole more than fills that slot, and she doesn't have anything personal to share at all. LOL

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5 minutes ago, Trooper York said:

Well except for toe fungus.

LOL, I actually meant that Ramona doesn't have anything to offer! Carole has shared, Ok, she has over shared! Toe fungus....YUCK!!!!

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11 hours ago, MerryMary said:

I'm surprised Carole has toe fungus.  I don't know why.  Is that something old people get?

i hope Carole's pedicurist and anyone she shares a shower with,  or who walks on the same floors barefoot as she does (possibly Bethenny this weekend as they are sharing a house) shares Carole's faux hipster attitude to a virulently contagious fungal condition! Maybe she was doing the right thing, and warning the therapist, because she has an easily transmissable condition? Also, athletes foot/candida/ringworm can make your feet STINK. It's definitely NOT something 'old  people' get, it's everywhere. Carole's cavalier attitude annoys the bejesus out of me. If I was Bethenny and discovered I had flaky itching patches on my body on returning home, I'd be ringing Carole's scrawny neck. It's basic common sense and good manners to treat yourself, cover it and take precautions so you don't spread this kind of thing to everyone around you. They isolate people with this kind of thing in hospitals because it is so contagious and it can be more than annoying for people with compromised immunity. Bethenny's puppies could pick this up!

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2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

When she came back to the show, she was dating a guy, they were all but living together, yet she claimed she was "alone and had no guy (bf)". Shields is her current BF, the one she said that changed her mind about never getting married again last season, they are still together. This season she said that they were "no longer serious" and that she stepped back but that is not the truth, they are as hot and heavy as they were last year/season even though he is still very married and hasn't even filed for divorce.

Almost forgot, SM = social media

She may not have had a boyfriend when the segment was filmed.  It sounds to me like he's filed for divorce.  http://people.com/celebrity/bethenny-frankel-skipping-valentines-day-boyfriend-dennis-shields/

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20 minutes ago, Mojoker said:

She may not have had a boyfriend when the segment was filmed.  It sounds to me like he's filed for divorce.  http://people.com/celebrity/bethenny-frankel-skipping-valentines-day-boyfriend-dennis-shields/

Nahhh. Because he is with Bethenny, page 6, ROL or TMZ would have shown the paper work/legal announcement had he/his wife filed for divorce. And Yes, they, Bethenny/Shields, were still a couple when this season was filmed.

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7 hours ago, Mojoker said:

You appear to have missed the part where Bethenny said that she, herself, would be blowing the guy by midnight.  Both comments were obviously jokes.

Thank you I watched it twice and that's what I heard also. The owner that sat them did look exactly like The guy Romona was going to open a restaurant with.   

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12 hours ago, Pickles said:

When Bethenny and Carole were at the acupuncturist, Carole was yammering about the election again. Bethenny said something like--why don't you do something or volunteer for Clinton/the campaign, whatever. Carole responded--I can't move to Washington! What?! I am sure there were many opportunities to work on Clinton's campaign in NYC. Or does Carole think she is above working with other "little people" and her efforts would only be appreciated in DC? She is just one of those people who likes to complain about everything, but will make no effort to take any action.

I noticed this, mainly because last week I asked if Carole had worked on the campaign.  And now we know that, no! she didn't actually work on this campaign she was so obsessed and passionate about, she just sat in front of her computer hitting the refresh button on msnbc.com and lecturing other rich ladies in the Manhattan bubble!

And I am sure you are right: if she'd showed up at Clinton HQ, she might have had to work next to a fat person, or someone in an ugly sweater, or someone who hadn't worked outside of the home or some other prole who didn't meet Carole's-you know, the open-minded, laid-back, uber-liberal, friend of the common man Carole-exacting standards.  

Talk about being a phony.  She's the biggest snob masquerading as a bohemian progressive.

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9 hours ago, Ki-in said:

I think Ramona is hurt that once Bethenny recovered from her oh so dramatic fibroids that she dumped Ramona. Ramona was actually nice and brought her things to her sick bed and offered to keep her company.

You know, Ramona is so socially awkward, this is what we could actually be looking at: Ramona is hurt that Bethenny has just dropped her. Maybe that's what her comments about not receiving an email about B's new dogs were actually about, and her 'fishing' expedition this episode when showing B her photos of herself and Avery. Even at the reunion, B commented about how kind Ramona was to her when she was recovering. I think Ramona is awkwardly trying to convey to B that she is hurting at the sudden distance between them. It could be that B is overwhelmed (as usual) with her work, daughter, new relationship and old relationship. But, Ramona also has work (she still has the Faith jewelery line?), divorce from Mario, dating, Avery at college etc and she probably just doesn't get B's excuses, being more 'old school' about her girlfriends. Maybe Ramona's hurt is what has turned her to actively antagonising Bethenny and seeking Lu's company. B tends to do this to people when they no longer have a strong SL, also. 

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A toe nail fungus is contagious, not highly.  Another reason why guests should not be asked to remove their shoes in someone's house.  I wonder if Beth knows that.  Oh, slippers offered?  How does one know that the previous wearer of those slippers didn't have one.  Sorry.  I couldn't resist.  As an aside, I won't put Carole down for having one.  It happens and sometimes it's very difficult to get rid of.

Beth wants Lu to own things.  If you want others to 'own' things, you need to 'own' your own stuff.  She didn't own her boyfriend until this season.  Lu bugs the hell out of Beth.  The comment going into the restaurant doesn't make it a joke or ok because Beth followed up with she could blow the guy.  She took an opportunity to make a dig at Lu.  Just like she did last week about the size of Lu's head.   Maybe others will disagree but I see Beth as someone who can self deprecate herself but when someone else does a 'joke' at her expense, she's not ok.  Maybe I'm wrong but that's the impression I get.  Beth has to be in control at every moment.  Ro was straight on right when she and Beth had that conversation on the bridge.  Beth will never forget it because Ro was in control.  She will never say that in retrospect Ro was right.

On an aside, Beth did not sell Skinnygirl for $100,000,000.  She sold it as deal that had a certain potential.  She also had a partner.  Sales of Skinnygirl went way down after that deal.  Beth is making money but I don't think it's anywhere near where she likes to portray it.  She makes a lot of branding deals.  Don't get me wrong.  Girl is doing just fine but the brand is not what is used to be.  That's part of the reason why she put the collar of shame on and came back to RHNY.  The talk show failed miserably.   Many of her branded products show up on clearance and she will keep making branding deals until it all runs out. 

The most fascinating part about this season thus far is that the other housewives don't seem as 'scared' of her this season as much as they did when she made the decision to return.  The exception was Lu.  I'm loving it.

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7 hours ago, ryebread said:

I think Sonja, 9 out of 10 times, always looks good in her talking heads.   She's a classic beauty, imo, whereas Dorinda has a more asymmetrical 'beauty'.  Although, I wouldn't really call her a beauty - she's more of an attractive woman.

Dorinda is what I would describe as a 'handsome' woman. It's really easy for her to look like Beaker from the muppets, especially when she's martini monstering. I thought she looked great this episode, I actually love her 'cool' aesthetic. I think Dorinda looks 'cooler' than cool girl hipster Carole. Dorinda continues to have a great eye for fashion and what suits her. 

I wonder how long Sonja and Tinsley are going to last? At the production rental friend's hous, Sonja ceased to be amusing after she tried shifting Tinsley's Frette linened bed to see if it would move under duress. Ok, that was a little bit topical and funny. But she then extrapolated to the nth degree, and to crickets by jumping ON Tinsley's bed (I hate when people get on or in my bed in scuzzy street clothes, or generally take liberties with what I consider my sanctuary) and dry humping. It just went on and on and Tinsley looked pained about it. She looked 'how do I get this bitch out of my room so i can take my bra and heels off and chill for a minute?'. Sonja is losing her comedic timing and is in danger of really becoming an embarrassing old broad, which is sad.

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This Ramona we are seeing seems a bit more power hungry than usual.  There is part of me that feels for Ramona because she has always tried to keep the band together and now she is a third wheel to Dorinda, when she is with Luann, Carole when she is with Bethenny, and now Tinsley with Sonja .  I believe Ramona when she claims she doesn't have a lot to do and I am certain she is counting down the days until Avery finishes college and returns to NYC.  Finally, Ramona is seeing her relationship with Bethenny for what it is an alliance when they are filming. When the show isn't airing there is no real need for the two to cross paths.   I find Carole more believable in her dislike of Ramona, I don't think she has ever cared about her and pretty much tolerated her for Bethenny's sake.  Now Carole has the election to voice her reasons for what she really thinks of Ramona and it is not flattering.

First we have Ramona not being included in Luann's bridal shower, then be uninvited or not included in Carole's Election Night party, Bethenny not going to her big Hampton's dinner party, things seem to be de-railing for Ramona.  I am kind of at a loss why Ramona didn't have Sonja and Tinsley as houseguests.   Ramona just seems to be really clumsy this season with her obvious ploys for camera time.  When they were at dinner she decided although it would have been a good angle to have her filmed at the head of the table, she was too removed from Bethenny.  I guess I find it humorous watching Ramona flit around and never being comfortable where she lands.  I am half expecting Ramona to blow up her own dinner table by making some Tom reference or insult Luann or Dorinda's daughters just because the party is at her home.

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7 hours ago, ninjago said:

I noticed this, mainly because last week I asked if Carole had worked on the campaign.  And now we know that, no! she didn't actually work on this campaign she was so obsessed and passionate about, she just sat in front of her computer hitting the refresh button on msnbc.com and lecturing other rich ladies in the Manhattan bubble!

And I am sure you are right: if she'd showed up at Clinton HQ, she might have had to work next to a fat person, or someone in an ugly sweater, or someone who hadn't worked outside of the home or some other prole who didn't meet Carole's-you know, the open-minded, laid-back, uber-liberal, friend of the common man Carole-exacting standards.  

Talk about being a phony.  She's the biggest snob masquerading as a bohemian progressive.

Carole wasn't just sitting in front of her computer. Vulture did an article on her that ran the night this season aired where she talked about working on a Get Out the Vote project. In the interview, she hadn't seen any episode except for the first one, and she mentioned that in the next few episodes we would see her working with the group and knocking on doors in Pennsylvania. For whatever reason, Bravo seemed to decide not to show that footage to us, and maybe for the same reason, cut out that part of the discussion with Beth. This folks is what some of us mean when we talk about editing. Lots and lots of stuff and conversation takes place that we never see. Perhaps they wanted to make it look like Carole was just an opinionated slacker instead of someone who was actually involving herself in the process. This from that article:

"I couldn’t talk about anything else. Nothing else seemed as important or interesting to discuss. I’m sure production might’ve wanted me to ease up, but they’ve always been straight up about it being reality, and that was my reality. We start filming in October, so we were three weeks out from one of the biggest elections in my lifetime, if not ever. So it’s not scripted. It was really what we were talking about in these five months that we filmed of our lives. In the next couple episodes you’ll see I go door-to-door canvassing in Pennsylvania with my mom. At that time I was working with a Get out the Vote project. I think the only people in the country who weren’t talking about the election were the six other women on the show."

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7 hours ago, queenjen said:

You know, Ramona is so socially awkward, this is what we could actually be looking at: Ramona is hurt that Bethenny has just dropped her. Maybe that's what her comments about not receiving an email about B's new dogs were actually about, and her 'fishing' expedition this episode when showing B her photos of herself and Avery. Even at the reunion, B commented about how kind Ramona was to her when she was recovering. I think Ramona is awkwardly trying to convey to B that she is hurting at the sudden distance between them. It could be that B is overwhelmed (as usual) with her work, daughter, new relationship and old relationship. But, Ramona also has work (she still has the Faith jewelery line?), divorce from Mario, dating, Avery at college etc and she probably just doesn't get B's excuses, being more 'old school' about her girlfriends. Maybe Ramona's hurt is what has turned her to actively antagonising Bethenny and seeking Lu's company. B tends to do this to people when they no longer have a strong SL, also. 

Maybe if we were talking about anyone else, but this is Ramona. What has her excuse been every other season that she has acted like an asshole (I hope I am allowed to mention other seasons in this context. After my first ever warning about discussing prior seasons, I am weary of what I can post). 

Beth said in her blog that she distanced herself from Ramona because of something that happened this summer, and that we would learn more about that. The bottom line, Ramona is now, and has always been, an opportunist. 

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In his outstanding Vulture Recap, Brian Moylan gave us a little bit of interesting scoop. I love him for many reasons, but mostly because he will often do this. He has met many of the HW's and will dish on them. He has met Ramona a few times, for instance, and has shared that she is exactly the same in person as she is on the show. In this recap, he dishes on Sonja's "friends house". Loving it to be sure....

 

The strangest moment of the episode for me personally was when Sonja and Tinsley showed up at “Sonja’s friend’s house” in Sag Harbor because I have also spent a few weekends at that house. It’s owned by two friends of mine and is literally right around the corner from the Countess’s house. As Tinz says, it is an incredibly chic and wonderfully appointed home and I once posed entirely naked with my nether regions covered by a very jaunty pillow with a Scottish terrier embroidered on it in one of those beds. It was my Grindr picture for a period of time.

Like so many New Yorkers who travel the charity circuit, I knew my friends had met and hung out with Sonja on several occasions, but I had no clue they were close enough to lend her the house for one fall weekend. I had to call up Mike and Noel (their names have been changed to protect them from the wrath of their neighbor Luann) and find out just how Sonja ended up staying at their house.

“It was the weirdest thing,” Mike told me. “We were at a fundraiser for the Trevor Project at Kevin Fitzsimmons’s house. Do you know Kevin? He used to date Justin Klimt? They were all in that share on Fire Island in that giant house on the ocean. You know the one: the house with the margarita machine in the kitchen and the urinal in the bathroom. Anyway, you totally know Kevin. So, we’re at Kevin’s house and we’re hanging around by the pool, examining each other’s polo shirts and sweating in our loafers when this woman comes up to us. She’s wearing a big floppy hat and giant sunglasses and a leopard-print caftan. She’s all like air kisses and ‘The gays love me, I’m so much fun, have you had any of the frosé, try the frosé.’

“Then, out of the blue, she starts asking us about our house. How big is it? Is it decorated nice? Will we be using it all this fall, blah, blah, blah. So I show her some pictures on my phone and she loves it and says that she needs to have a friend of hers out sometime this fall and she’ll pay us $20,000 for the first weekend in November. Something about making sure she’d be able to attend a dinner party and how she needed to be there for things to go down. So of course we were like, ‘Bitch, get out your checkbook. And make out $10,000 to us and $10,000 to the Trevor Project and we’ll see your caftan ass in November.’”

“Oh my God,” I told him. “That’s amazing. Do you know who this woman was?”

“Girl, duh!” Mike said, and I could hear him over the phone rolling his eyes at me as he took a sip of his merlot and carefully placed his wine glass back down on his polished concrete countertop. “Who do you think?”

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You know, Ramona is so socially awkward, this is what we could actually be looking at: Ramona is hurt that Bethenny has just dropped her.

I think you're on to something!  I didn't think about it that way until you posted it.  I can see why Ramona would be upset with Bethenny after she did so much for her when she was sick.  I can also see why Bethenny might've dropped her/distanced herself from her after not needing her anymore.  Maybe it was too much attention for Bethenny.  She doesn't like to be smothered.  Who knows for sure with these ladies!  It doesn't take much for them to get their feelings hurt or to start fighting.

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At that time I was working with a Get out the Vote project. I think the only people in the country who weren’t talking about the election were the six other women on the show."

Well, good for her.  She put her money where her mouth was.  Carole should've realized that not everybody wanted to talk about the election 24/7.  That doesn't mean they're not informed.  That's the attitude that irks me the most.  She makes these snide comments about how "most people" don't know about politics, when she can't possibly know what everybody else is thinking and feeling.  It's a big, fat ASSumption on her part, and it's rude.  I would be tuning out if this season turned out to be all of them sitting around talking politics the entire show.   I got enough of that for the entire year prior to the election.  Yes Carole, I paid attention and read different news sources and watched the debates, but I didn't feel the need to talk about it incessantly.  I understand that it's "her reality," but politics 24/7 on an inane housewives show isn't what I tune in for.  I tune in for the dumbassery of it all, and to escape the dumbassery that I see in real life.  YMMV. 

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8 hours ago, queenjen said:

You know, Ramona is so socially awkward, this is what we could actually be looking at: Ramona is hurt that Bethenny has just dropped her. Maybe that's what her comments about not receiving an email about B's new dogs were actually about, and her 'fishing' expedition this episode when showing B her photos of herself and Avery. Even at the reunion, B commented about how kind Ramona was to her when she was recovering. I think Ramona is awkwardly trying to convey to B that she is hurting at the sudden distance between them. It could be that B is overwhelmed (as usual) with her work, daughter, new relationship and old relationship. But, Ramona also has work (she still has the Faith jewelery line?), divorce from Mario, dating, Avery at college etc and she probably just doesn't get B's excuses, being more 'old school' about her girlfriends. Maybe Ramona's hurt is what has turned her to actively antagonising Bethenny and seeking Lu's company. B tends to do this to people when they no longer have a strong SL, also. 

I suspect that Ramona courting Lu's friendship and turning on B is more about her hoping she will snag an invite to the wedding. Do we know if Ramona reached out to B during the hiatus or was the onus on B to pick up the phone?

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15 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

The explanation is that Beth doesn't like Lu. It's that simple. They didn't go on filming hiatus and Beth suddenly found that she missed Lu or was wrong about every single thing she has ever thought about her. That is Ramona's style, but it isn't Beth's. 

Great!

That's what I thought too.

Beth's lame and corny and got nothing but yelling old news insults cause a hairs up her ass.

High School mean girl that one.

Which was the point I was trying to make.

Carry on.

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Carole probably got foot fungus from her dirty looking hipster boy toy. The thought that Carole spread it all over Bethenny's apartment gave me joy....

Did anyone else google Bethenny's soft porn film? I did ( teeheee).... 

Bethenny obviously holds herself above the other women. She has made terrible comments about all of them, but gets offended by being called a witch. Pretty reactive for someone that claims they give zero F's. 

I love Bethenny's Hampton's home! 

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8 hours ago, queenjen said:

Sonja is losing her comedic timing and is in danger of really becoming an embarrassing old broad, which is sad

she  entered that category about three years ago for me.

I can't help it, I love Lu.  She's gorgeous and funny and totally unflappable. She usually is impeccably dressed and can just keep it moving no matter how vile Gutter Gums Beth tries to knock her down.  Will her marriage last?  Statistics say NO, but I'm glad she's happy for now.  I especially love it because it sends Gutter Gums Beth off. GG can't help it, she wants no-one to be happy.

I want to go out drinking with Dorinda and Lu.

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Best thing about this episode: Dorinda's grey turtleneck ... I couldn't stop staring at it and wondering where she bought it and how much it cost.

I hope we get to see more of the Sag Harbor house that Sonja/Tinsley hijacked. Now that was some high-end fab decor that made Bethenney,'s, Ramona's and Lu's homes look unfinished.

Since Carole is more informed about the election than anyone else, I am still waiting to hear some kind of insider info dribble out of her mouth that the rest of us unconnected pleebs were not privy to. So far, I've only heard her repeat the same headlines we all read.

Luann and Dorinda and Victoria's day in Sag Harbor, complete with taco lunch and boat ride on a beautiful fall afternoon actually made me envious. 

Ramona. I noticed that you were the only parent pictured with the "girls" on parent's weekend. Tells me that she either overstayed her visit, or came down obnoxiously early. 

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On 2017-04-19 at 11:38 PM, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

BF is a BI. She can sure dish it out,  but she can't take it. 

Victoria being served rosé in Sag harbor. Last second editing ? 

I like Victoria. She is well behaved

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1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

In his outstanding Vulture Recap, Brian Moylan gave us a little bit of interesting scoop. I love him for many reasons, but mostly because he will often do this. He has met many of the HW's and will dish on them. He has met Ramona a few times, for instance, and has shared that she is exactly the same in person as she is on the show. In this recap, he dishes on Sonja's "friends house". Loving it to be sure....

 

The strangest moment of the episode for me personally was when Sonja and Tinsley showed up at “Sonja’s friend’s house” in Sag Harbor because I have also spent a few weekends at that house. It’s owned by two friends of mine and is literally right around the corner from the Countess’s house. As Tinz says, it is an incredibly chic and wonderfully appointed home and I once posed entirely naked with my nether regions covered by a very jaunty pillow with a Scottish terrier embroidered on it in one of those beds. It was my Grindr picture for a period of time.

Like so many New Yorkers who travel the charity circuit, I knew my friends had met and hung out with Sonja on several occasions, but I had no clue they were close enough to lend her the house for one fall weekend. I had to call up Mike and Noel (their names have been changed to protect them from the wrath of their neighbor Luann) and find out just how Sonja ended up staying at their house.

“It was the weirdest thing,” Mike told me. “We were at a fundraiser for the Trevor Project at Kevin Fitzsimmons’s house. Do you know Kevin? He used to date Justin Klimt? They were all in that share on Fire Island in that giant house on the ocean. You know the one: the house with the margarita machine in the kitchen and the urinal in the bathroom. Anyway, you totally know Kevin. So, we’re at Kevin’s house and we’re hanging around by the pool, examining each other’s polo shirts and sweating in our loafers when this woman comes up to us. She’s wearing a big floppy hat and giant sunglasses and a leopard-print caftan. She’s all like air kisses and ‘The gays love me, I’m so much fun, have you had any of the frosé, try the frosé.’

“Then, out of the blue, she starts asking us about our house. How big is it? Is it decorated nice? Will we be using it all this fall, blah, blah, blah. So I show her some pictures on my phone and she loves it and says that she needs to have a friend of hers out sometime this fall and she’ll pay us $20,000 for the first weekend in November. Something about making sure she’d be able to attend a dinner party and how she needed to be there for things to go down. So of course we were like, ‘Bitch, get out your checkbook. And make out $10,000 to us and $10,000 to the Trevor Project and we’ll see your caftan ass in November.’”

“Oh my God,” I told him. “That’s amazing. Do you know who this woman was?”

“Girl, duh!” Mike said, and I could hear him over the phone rolling his eyes at me as he took a sip of his merlot and carefully placed his wine glass back down on his polished concrete countertop. “Who do you think?”

Previously Sonja has credited Luis from "Million Dollar Listing", with finding her a home to borrow.  I thought it was just great license the author was taking telling a story.  I am quite certain if Luann lives that close she knows of the owners of the house so that made no sense.

I assumed from his previous recaps the mystery woman was Jill who plopped down the $20k and it was all fictional.

No offense to the RH but I don't see production or anyone on the cast dropping $20k for a random November weekend for two RHs.  

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16 hours ago, escape said:

That must have been before LuAnn's daughter got arrested for a DUI - at almost twice the legal limit.   Which is after she was kicked out of her private school for a racist video where she was high and ranted the "N" word.  And before that she broke both arms falling, while climbing to sneak out of the house.

I never knew that. Wow she is a wild child

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2 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

In his outstanding Vulture Recap, Brian Moylan gave us a little bit of interesting scoop. I love him for many reasons, but mostly because he will often do this. He has met many of the HW's and will dish on them. He has met Ramona a few times, for instance, and has shared that she is exactly the same in person as she is on the show. In this recap, he dishes on Sonja's "friends house". Loving it to be sure....

 

The strangest moment of the episode for me personally was when Sonja and Tinsley showed up at “Sonja’s friend’s house” in Sag Harbor because I have also spent a few weekends at that house. It’s owned by two friends of mine and is literally right around the corner from the Countess’s house. As Tinz says, it is an incredibly chic and wonderfully appointed home and I once posed entirely naked with my nether regions covered by a very jaunty pillow with a Scottish terrier embroidered on it in one of those beds. It was my Grindr picture for a period of time.

Like so many New Yorkers who travel the charity circuit, I knew my friends had met and hung out with Sonja on several occasions, but I had no clue they were close enough to lend her the house for one fall weekend. I had to call up Mike and Noel (their names have been changed to protect them from the wrath of their neighbor Luann) and find out just how Sonja ended up staying at their house.

“It was the weirdest thing,” Mike told me. “We were at a fundraiser for the Trevor Project at Kevin Fitzsimmons’s house. Do you know Kevin? He used to date Justin Klimt? They were all in that share on Fire Island in that giant house on the ocean. You know the one: the house with the margarita machine in the kitchen and the urinal in the bathroom. Anyway, you totally know Kevin. So, we’re at Kevin’s house and we’re hanging around by the pool, examining each other’s polo shirts and sweating in our loafers when this woman comes up to us. She’s wearing a big floppy hat and giant sunglasses and a leopard-print caftan. She’s all like air kisses and ‘The gays love me, I’m so much fun, have you had any of the frosé, try the frosé.’

“Then, out of the blue, she starts asking us about our house. How big is it? Is it decorated nice? Will we be using it all this fall, blah, blah, blah. So I show her some pictures on my phone and she loves it and says that she needs to have a friend of hers out sometime this fall and she’ll pay us $20,000 for the first weekend in November. Something about making sure she’d be able to attend a dinner party and how she needed to be there for things to go down. So of course we were like, ‘Bitch, get out your checkbook. And make out $10,000 to us and $10,000 to the Trevor Project and we’ll see your caftan ass in November.’”

“Oh my God,” I told him. “That’s amazing. Do you know who this woman was?”

“Girl, duh!” Mike said, and I could hear him over the phone rolling his eyes at me as he took a sip of his merlot and carefully placed his wine glass back down on his polished concrete countertop. “Who do you think?”

Ooooh I live for inside scoop like this --- just another reason to love his recaps!  <3

Ooh but now I am also wondering if this was part of his "Jill saga"??!  It doesn't SOUND like it is, but hmmmm...   Well, it's fun regardless. 

50 minutes ago, Social Piranha said:

she  entered that category about three years ago for me.

I can't help it, I love Lu.  She's gorgeous and funny and totally unflappable. She usually is impeccably dressed and can just keep it moving no matter how vile Gutter Gums Beth tries to knock her down.  Will her marriage last?  Statistics say NO, but I'm glad she's happy for now.  I especially love it because it sends Gutter Gums Beth off. GG can't help it, she wants no-one to be happy.

I want to go out drinking with Dorinda and Lu.

I think going out for drinks with Lu would be a blast.   I think I'd prefer coffee and desert with Dor though.  Sometimes the alcohol can set her off a bit.  lol

26 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

She seems like a nice person but the DUI at twice the legal limit?  Yeah, she needs to calm down.

Yeah, I am disappointed to hear the trouble she has gotten into these past years.  I have always liked her on the show - as well as Noel.  They always seemed very low-key and respectful. 

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4 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

Ooooh I live for inside scoop like this --- just another reason to love his recaps!  <3

Ooh but now I am also wondering if this was part of his "Jill saga"??!  It doesn't SOUND like it is, but hmmmm...   Well, it's fun regardless. 

I think going out for drinks with Lu would be a blast.   I think I'd prefer coffee and desert with Dor though.  Sometimes the alcohol can set her off a bit.  lol

Yeah, I am disappointed to hear the trouble she has gotten into these past years.  I have always liked her on the show - as well as Noel.  They always seemed very low-key and respectful. 

Here is Sonja's blog.  She claims to have known the home owners a long time.  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-9/blogs/sonja-morgan/sonja-morgan-i-was-hoping-she

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9 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Here is Sonja's blog.  She claims to have known the home owners a long time.  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-9/blogs/sonja-morgan/sonja-morgan-i-was-hoping-she

She has also said that she worked as an Advisor to the Trump campaign. She has also said a lot of other stuff. 

10 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Ooooh I live for inside scoop like this --- just another reason to love his recaps!  <3

Ooh but now I am also wondering if this was part of his "Jill saga"??!  It doesn't SOUND like it is, but hmmmm...   Well, it's fun regardless. 

 

The other thing I love about Brian is that he interacts with the people who post on the forum. He did in this case as well, and said that the story was completely true, except for the money part. In the end, the owners didn't charge Bravo to use the house. 

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  20 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

Ooooh I live for inside scoop like this --- just another reason to love his recaps!  <3

Ooh but now I am also wondering if this was part of his "Jill saga"??!  It doesn't SOUND like it is, but hmmmm...   Well, it's fun regardless. 

I think going out for drinks with Lu would be a blast.   I think I'd prefer coffee and desert with Dor though.  Sometimes the alcohol can set her off a bit.  lol

Yeah, I am disappointed to hear the trouble she has gotten into these past years.  I have always liked her on the show - as well as Noel.  They always seemed very low-key and respectful. 

Here is Sonja's blog.  She claims to have known the home owners a long time.  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-9/blogs/sonja-morgan/sonja-morgan-i-was-hoping-she

The problem is, it's just about impossible to believe anything Sonja says anymore. Is it possible she's friends with the people who own this house? Sure, definitely possible. But is it also possible that she's rented this house for the weekend from total strangers? Sure, definitely possible. Just the fact that she starts out the whole blog thing with that pretentious bullshit about all the hotels in Europe having automatic toilets makes me want to throw something -- perhaps an automatic toilet -- at her head.

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53 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Previously Sonja has credited Luis from "Million Dollar Listing", with finding her a home to borrow.  I thought it was just great license the author was taking telling a story.  I am quite certain if Luann lives that close she knows of the owners of the house so that made no sense.

IMO he is only taking license if the folks who told him the story don't want it repeated. We have no reason to believe that to be the case. He is certainly under no obligation to not tell Bravo secrets. He is just a blogger, not an employee of Bravo. TT is always giving juicy details about Atlanta because she supposedly has some inside source. He is free to tell whatever he knows and wants to divulge about this show. 

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On 4/20/2017 at 8:30 PM, WireWrap said:

2 reunions ago, no mention was made about that BF and no one was allowed to discuss/comment about the divorce/custody other than Bethenny or Carole. Luann did bring up that Bethenny was dating a married man and that she is the reason his marriage broke up, Bethenny called someone she claimed was Shields daughter but that was it. And, I don't blame Luann for using it after what Bethenny called her all season long considering Bethenny was dating him when she went off on Luann at Dorinda's "I made it nice" party. BUT, no one really talked about her then ongoing divorce. Bethenny simply does not allow it and the others (except Luann) fear her enough to obey her commands.

Luann got her apple back in full the season after she lost it (about 4 seasons ago) and has not been in jeopardy of losing it since, especially since she is the only one not afraid to take Bethenny on. But fear of losing ones apple may well be why Ramona is jumping off of team Bethenny's ship. Bethenny doesn't need another side kick, Carole more than fills that slot, and she doesn't have anything personal to share at all. LOL

It was an ongoing legal action. It wasn't that Bethenny was too precious to have her private life discussed; she was prohibited from talking about any of it while it was going on.  If any of the other women were going through any type of litigation, they'd be saying the same thing.

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15 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

She has also said that she worked as an Advisor to the Trump campaign. She has also said a lot of other stuff, but I won't go there since it is from prior seasons and apparently we cannot speak about prior seasons any longer. 

The other thing I love about Brian is that he interacts with the people who post on the forum. He did in this case as well, and said that the story was completely true, except for the money part. In the end, the owners didn't charge Bravo to use the house. 

Brian is close friends with a friend and former coworker of mine - if he says it's true, I believe it. I'd certainly believe Brian before I'd believe come hang out on my yacht Sonja.

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17 hours ago, Trooper York said:

To go back to the events of this episode we see Bethenny saying that Luann would blow the owner of the resturant. Obviously intitmating that she is a whore who can not control herself when presented with an attractive guy. Then when Luann is actually agreeing with her that Ramona was out of line in bringing up her daughter Bethenny jumps down her throat.

Bethenny is choked off and bitter. A truly nasty piece of work. Getting pickle jars burned to her ass. While bitterly fighting with everyone. Her mother. Her ex. Her business partner. Every one except her paid employees and lapdogs. 

Luann is riding the waves with the sun in her hair. Soon to be married to a man she says she loves. 

You make the call.

Two minutes later Bethenny said that she would blow the guy.  What was that intimating?

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Bethenny annoys the shit out of me for the most part but I did laugh at a couple of things she said this episode reminding me how I loved her on the first couple of seasons:

  • "I didn't know Carole even had a pulse." (On her passion for politics)
  • "You've already got 20 years working against you..." (On Carole's fungus foot and whether she tells Adam about it)
  • "He doesn't look like he rolled around in grease." (On Carole's comment that the restaurant manager/owner/worker reminded her of Ramona's business partner).
  •  "Yes, Diane Sawyer interviewed her on the playground" (On Ramona's "has anyone approached your daughter about your soft porn past.")  Was it my imagination or did Ramona and Lu actually think she was serious?

I also think it's funny for all the connections and inside knowledge Carole says she has, in response to Bethenny's suggestions on working for Hilary Clinton,  her response was, "And move to Washington"?  Bethenny seemed as incredulous as I was that she seemed to think the only place to work for Clinton and her campaign was in DC.  Also I seriously hate when people bring in politics so much that it permeates their thought process.  "Ramona is like Trump, she..."  The comparison is apt, but it reminds me of the people that would bring Obama into a discussion that has nothing to do with Obama.  Like they are so full of hate about a politician that they bring it up their nemesis at every opportunity.

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11 minutes ago, Mojoker said:

Two minutes later Bethenny said that she would blow the guy.  What was that intimating?

only after she talked to the guy and found he had some redeeming qualities,  She is intimating that Luann's has few if any standards.

 

 

fwiw, I don't think Beth should be slut shaming ANYONE -was it Ramona or Teresa (NJ) that said "Don't throw stones at glass houses"

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Just now, SweetieDarling said:

only after she talked to the guy and found he had some redeeming qualities,  She is intimating that Luann's has few if any standards.

 

 

fwiw, I don't think Beth should be slut shaming ANYONE -was it Ramona or Teresa (NJ) that said "Don't throw stones at glass houses"

I hear it differently than you do.

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13 hours ago, WireWrap said:

The guys don't have to be on camera but they are still fair game as far as the women talking about them, as evidence by Bethenny, Carole, Sonja and Ramona talking about Tom ad nauseam in just these first 3 episodes alone. Bethenny demands her entire private life be off limits to everyone else except her/Carole.

Do you think Dorinda's boyfriend John is thanking his lucky stars for Tom being on the show right now?  We've only heard minimal mention of John so far this season.  I think he owes Tom and Luann a case of champagne, or a year of dry cleaning, whichever.

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17 minutes ago, Mojoker said:

I hear it differently than you do.

It is never flattering or okay to say a women will be blowing the guy.  Especially when the woman is engaged and you despise her.  It doesn't make it okay or any funnier because one says it about themselves.  It only means the "joke" wasn't funny the first time.   It would not be any funnier if Bethenny said it about Sonja or Ramona or Carole.  No one wants that said about them.

Carole and Bethenny for all their combined sophistication take cheap shots at people's physical charactericts looks and sex lives.  I have a hard time when either of them play victim about something said about them.

16 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Do you think Dorinda's boyfriend John is thanking his lucky stars for Tom being on the show right now?  We've only heard minimal mention of John so far this season.  I think he owes Tom and Luann a case of champagne, or a year of dry cleaning, whichever.

Dorinda said in the off season she wanted limited John this season.  It detracts from her air time.  Essentially her gig and she wants to be front and center.

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1 hour ago, sasha206 said:

Bethenny annoys the shit out of me for the most part but I did laugh at a couple of things she said this episode reminding me how I loved her on the first couple of seasons:

  • "I didn't know Carole even had a pulse." (On her passion for politics)
  • "You've already got 20 years working against you..." (On Carole's fungus foot and whether she tells Adam about it)
  • "He doesn't look like he rolled around in grease." (On Carole's comment that the restaurant manager/owner/worker reminded her of Ramona's business partner).
  •  "Yes, Diane Sawyer interviewed her on the playground" (On Ramona's "has anyone approached your daughter about your soft porn past.")  Was it my imagination or did Ramona and Lu actually think she was serious?

I also think it's funny for all the connections and inside knowledge Carole says she has, in response to Bethenny's suggestions on working for Hilary Clinton,  her response was, "And move to Washington"?  Bethenny seemed as incredulous as I was that she seemed to think the only place to work for Clinton and her campaign was in DC.  Also I seriously hate when people bring in politics so much that it permeates their thought process.  "Ramona is like Trump, she..."  The comparison is apt, but it reminds me of the people that would bring Obama into a discussion that has nothing to do with Obama.  Like they are so full of hate about a politician that they bring it up their nemesis at every opportunity.

I haven't re-watched the episode so I can't remember, but did Bethenny suggest working for the Clinton campaign or working for Clinton? I ask because if Bethenny only said Clinton (without specifying campaign), my guess is that Carole was thinking that Hillary Clinton would be the next president and was wondering if Bethenny was suggesting a move to DC to work for a President Hillary Clinton. 

If Bethenny said "Clinton campaign" then I can't hazard a guess as to what Carole would have been thinking lol. 

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