S03.E04: Season 3, Episode 4

[ElectricBoogaloo]

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Trish returns to the scene of the crime - will she remember anything more about the attack? DC Katie Harford discovers a strong lead - a new suspect who doesn't have an alibi.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

One of the things I like about this show is that they're able to deal with horrific crimes and the aftermath, yet still provide moments of humor. Hardy stammering during his date was hilarious, as was Miller teasing him about his date afterwards. "Did you kiss her?" Ha!

That was some much needed levity after seeing Trish return to the scene of the crime. Watching her cry as she lowered herself to the dirt where she had been raped and then vomiting was just terrible. Up until this episode, we've only seen tense/traumatized Trish so it was such a contrast to see how happy she was when she arrived at the party.

That Jim is a piece of work. I was already annoyed with him last week when he had the nerve to complain that Cath made pasta for dinner again. But to find out this week that he has been complaining about shit like that while fucking her best friend? Sorry, mate, you can kindly GTFO.

The latest suspect, Aaron, is gross. The way he waited until the male police officer (who clearly has never been on a stakeout) was gone so he could menace the female one was so creepy. Watching him try to intimidate her was unpleasant to say the least. I can only imagine the way he spun that story about the woman (sorry, GIRL) who accused him of rape.

That scene with Chloe and Daisy has me worried. I really hope there isn't a video of her having sex out there. But it was very kind of Chloe to go to her house to offer her some comfort, whatever is going on. Most teenagers aren't nice enough to go to a stranger's house to offer emotional support.

Of course Mark hired someone to track down Joe Miller. I'm glad Paul made it clear that he's not up for premeditated murder.

Edited March 21, 2017 by ElectricBoogaloo

[mledawn]

Can we all just take a moment to commiserate with Hardy and Ellie that the beach soccer game was a RIDICULOUS thing? But we did learn that the cabbie's stepson calls him "Dad" to his face, and that the cabbie didn't tell his wife about the porn.

The husband is proving to be a total dicksmack, and that's without me needing a reminder that he cheated on Trish with his coworker which lead to the breakup. Speaking of whom, that other woman sending intimidating text messages? You're the other woman, lady - shut the fuck up with your poor me story. Did you think life would be perfect once everyone realised who/what you were? Ugh. Shove it.

Creepy Leo is still creepy.

Creepy rapist is rapey and creepy.

I wonder what this other witness coming forward will mean. What a cliffhanger - this week-to-week show thing is AGONY.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

I was shaking my head at Ian's indignant defense that he would not rape a woman at his own wife's birthday party, only to admit a minute later that he had consensual sex with his wife's best friend the morning of his wife's birthday. Glad he clarified the line between what he considers acceptable and unacceptable behavior and what time of day it's appropriate to cheat on your wife's birthday. 

Likewise, Sarah's anger towards Trish was also laughable. Oh, so you're mad at your boyfriend's wife? 

I was glad that Trish's daughter (Leigh?) refused to hand her mom's laptop over to her shady ass dad without her mom's permission. I guess Leigh and Chloe being sensible teenagers is supposed to balance out the dumbass boys!

Edited March 21, 2017 by ElectricBoogaloo

[staveDarsky]

Hate to say it, but I have my eye on Leah. I think she had reason to keep the laptop in the house as much as to let Ian take it, even for a couple of hours. It was just something in the way she handled him that sparked me to think she might not be what she seems.

The football game seemed to be far more about having one day of filming when the entire cast was present in one place than doing anything for the story. And there were some real head-scratchers about that. For example, how did the taxi driver get invited? You'd think Cath would have filled the playing rosters with the 50 men who were guests at her birthday party and not be inviting people she doesn't know like Mark, Nige, Tom and "the boys". When Trish arrived only the men who knew her seemed to have noticeable reactions. The boys, Tom, Mark and Nige didn't look shifty. In short, I don't think that Tom and friends have a video of Trish's attack.

As humorous as Hardy's date was, it was really out of left field. He's not sleeping, not eating much, working 12+ hours/day relentlessly on this case, and forgetting lunch with Daisy and yet he booked off to go have a Tinder date mid-case? Seems to me Chibnall may have done that more as a big "take that you Hardy-Miller shippers" than to add to the story. 

I agree with the people who figure the creepy convicted rapist is going to be the one who raped the girl in the field but that case won't end up being connected to Trish's. I'm sure she was raped by someone she knows for revenge, not a stranger. Ian being unconscious says to me he was drugged so that blame would fall on him when he can't explain his whereabouts. So I don't think Ian attacked Trish. He's up to something else.

I hope we see more of Chloe with Daisy. Very curious about what happened there.

Edited March 21, 2017 by staveDarsky

[Ravenya003]

Awful thought: what if the light Trish saw during the attack was someone filming her? The show keeps drawing our attention to porn, whether it's being shared by school boys or pinned to garage walls, so I'm guessing that there's a greater conspiracy here. It would account for the weird behaviour of more than one suspect (the cab driver for example wasn't the rapist, but he drove the getaway car, neither was the teen in the fishing shop, but he's distributing the material, etc). 

Apparently the guy who's the convicted rapist was one of the guys from "Horrible Histories". A lot of people on Twitter are crying about their destroyed childhoods! (in a jokey way, not in the deranged Ghostbusters way)

Broadchurch doesn't deserve Chloe. Seeing Nigel again only reminded me of how much I dislike practically everyone in this town whether they're a murderer or not. That said, I'm glad I'm liking Beth again this season. I always felt guilty for finding her annoying last season given what she'd gone through, but helping other people in need has been good for her.

Loved Ellie's WTF face when she heard about the football match.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Ravenya003

[molshoop]

I think Trish's husband had the webcam on her computer set so he could turn it on and view her

when ever he wanted to, using his computer.  I'm not much of a techie, so I don't know exactly

how it works, but I know it can be done.  That's why he needed to get a hold of her computer

and why he needed his to be "fixed".  It also explains his comment in the first episode about

Trish sleeping with a bunch of different men.  He's been watching her through her computer.

[Eri]

My suspicions about Trish was seeing her friend's husband was right - she was way too defensive at her interview that I figured it was someone she was close to. I'm proud of her for facing her fears and going back to the crime scene to try and jog her memories. Beth has been a real rock for her. I felt it was inappropriate for Cath to hold a shindig at the beach inviting everyone when the police are still investigating - it almost feels as if she's making the situation about her to assuage her guilt about what happened at the party. Maybe she already knows about the affair is getting back at Trish in her own way...

I'm beginning to suspect that the porn being distributed at school was of Daisy having group sex or multiple sex encounters with the guys she hangs out with. Being new to the town and not having a father figure around could have made her an easy target to be manipulated. I hope Chloe will be the big sister figure that she needs to get through this.

Alec's rare shows of compassion are truly heartwarming in his own stubborn way. Watching him stutter and go wide-eyed whenever his date paid him a compliment made it difficult to stifle laughter. His exchanges with Ellie are just as sweet. He's so awkward but adorkable!

Tonight's "creep" award goes to:

-Trish's boss (perhaps he's one of her lovers?)

-Teenage douchebag from the fishing net business who thinks he's God's gift

-Jim for the affair

-Ian and his sh***y attempts at manipulation (and poor taste in side chicks)

-The random sex offender who still feels tough enough to bully women with lewd comments. The fact that he is married and has any children at all just... grates me.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Eri

[ElectricBoogaloo]

12 hours ago, staveDarsky said:

As humorous as Hardy's date was, it was really out of left field. He's not sleeping, not eating much, working 12+ hours/day relentlessly on this case, and forgetting lunch with Daisy and yet he booked off to go have a Tinder date mid-case? Seems to me Chibnall may have done that more as a big "take that you Hardy-Miller shippers" than to add to the story. 

I think his date was a combination of wanting to appease Daisy (she was obviously involved since she set up his profile), moving on from the attempted reconciliation with Daisy's mom, and realizing that he needs some kind of work/life balance. I can imagine Daisy telling him that he should at least try to find someone to date and Alec making a semi-sarcastic remark like, "Where? On the internet?" and then Daisy just signing him up for a couple of dating apps. Knowing that he flaked on lunch with Daisy, he then made it a point not to miss this date because if he did, that would be like letting Daisy down again.

To be honest, I thought he was doing some kind of undercover operation, that he had somehow found Zoe was connected to something and he was going on this date to try to get information from her (unbeknownst to Zoe, who thought it was a real date).

[waving feather]

Cath has great husband and bestie! So great, that they slept with each other on the morning of her birthday. Geez.

This is horrible but I am suspecting Rev Paul as the rapist... I hope I am wrong because I like the actor and character, but his sporadic appearances on the show unrelated to the main story was like how Joe Miller appeared on the show back in season one.

[staveDarsky]

3 hours ago, waving feather said:

Cath has great husband and bestie! So great, that they slept with each other on the morning of her birthday. Geez.

This is horrible but I am suspecting Rev Paul as the rapist... I hope I am wrong because I like the actor and character, but his sporadic appearances on the show unrelated to the main story was like how Joe Miller appeared on the show back in season one.

If it's of any consolation, I remember reading about Arthur Darvill either filming his Marvel show or appearing at US ComicCons while Broadchurch 3 was being filmed -- hence his limited availability to shoot scenes. I'm surprised he's been in it as much as he has.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

I chalked up Paul's appearances this season to wanting to keep the old characters involved in the current plot, hence why he's the one talking to Mark about not going to kill Joe, asking Ellie's dad how he's doing, and sentencing the kids with porn on their phone to pulling weeds at the church.

[Llywela]

On 21/03/2017 at 1:10 PM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

That scene with Chloe and Daisy has me worried. I really hope there isn't a video of her having sex out there. But it was very kind of Chloe to go to her house to offer her some comfort, whatever is going on. Most teenagers aren't nice enough to go to a stranger's house to offer emotional support.

Yeah, that was a standout scene to me, too - and I do suspect it has something to do with nude pictures being spread among classmates, or something, that's a hot issue for teens currently. I thought Chloe was lovely to go to her and offer support - because of course Chloe knows what it's like to have all your classmates staring and whispering about you behind your back.

[Eucrid]

So I was right about the morning sex being with Caths husband. Now I believe Cath knows more about this rape than shes letting on and may even have been involved in some way. She definitely knows the 2 of them were having the affair.

Something is up with the Taxi drivers step son too. He's came in out of nowhere and he seems damaged.

On 23/03/2017 at 6:30 AM, Llywela said:

Yeah, that was a standout scene to me, too - and I do suspect it has something to do with nude pictures being spread among classmates, or something, that's a hot issue for teens currently. I thought Chloe was lovely to go to her and offer support - because of course Chloe knows what it's like to have all your classmates staring and whispering about you behind your back.

This would make a lot of sense in the context of the boys porn sharing too. Thats not happening this season for no reason.

Mark making the dinner was clearly a last meal before he goes to kill Joe.

Edited March 25, 2017 by Eucrid

[madmaverick]

On 3/21/2017 at 9:10 PM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

One of the things I like about this show is that they're able to deal with horrific crimes and the aftermath, yet still provide moments of humor. Hardy stammering during his date was hilarious, as was Miller teasing him about his date afterwards. "Did you kiss her?" Ha!

Yeah, Broadchurch has always been great at generating humour out of awkward heh.  I admit I didn't see Hardy's date coming.

On 3/21/2017 at 9:10 PM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

That was some much needed levity after seeing Trish return to the scene of the crime. Watching her cry as she lowered herself to the dirt where she had been raped and then vomiting was just terrible. Up until this episode, we've only seen tense/traumatized Trish so it was such a contrast to see how happy she was when she arrived at the party.

Seeing Trish go back to the scene of the crime to relive it was gutting.  Truly horrible.  I can't imagine how it must feel for real life rape victims to have to go through that if they do, and then to relive it all over again in court with the accused.  Ugh.  And yeah, Trish at the party was like a completely different person.  The difference was almost jarring.  They've got a great actress playing Trish.

On 3/21/2017 at 9:10 PM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

That Jim is a piece of work. I was already annoyed with him last week when he had the nerve to complain that Cath made pasta for dinner again. But to find out this week that he has been complaining about shit like that while fucking her best friend? Sorry, mate, you can kindly GTFO.

I would like to hear how he describes his marriage.  His wife certainly didn't hold back.  Hope she shoves the pasta in his face sometime.

On 3/21/2017 at 9:10 PM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

The latest suspect, Aaron, is gross. The way he waited until the male police officer (who clearly has never been on a stakeout) was gone so he could menace the female one was so creepy. Watching him try to intimidate her was unpleasant to say the least. I can only imagine the way he spun that story about the woman (sorry, GIRL) who accused him of rape.

He was super gross.  This show is so good at casting actors who can play creepy well.  And it really bugged me that his wife seemed to be clueless about the kind of creep he is, or maybe she does know but is in denial.  Poor kid of his.

On 3/22/2017 at 10:43 AM, molshoop said:

I think Trish's husband had the webcam on her computer set so he could turn it on and view her

when ever he wanted to, using his computer. 

I think you're definitely onto something.

And I think there's definitely porn being shared either of Daisy and/or of Trish's assault that's probably being viewed by a large number of the creepy men in the town. There was just a report recently about a sexual assault streamed live on facebook and no one reported it to the police.  Just makes you despair about humans sometimes.

20 hours ago, Eucrid said:

Mark making the dinner was clearly a last meal before he goes to kill Joe.

Way to put Beth off fish forever. ;) 

[Milburn Stone]

Ellie's driving me crazy again. Trish shows incredible bravery, overcoming her terror to force herself back to the scene, all for one reason--because she knows how important it is to find out if her memory can provide clues to the rapist--and Ellie keeps saying, "You don't have to do this, Trish! You don't have to do this, Trish!"

Whose side is she on?

Edited July 20, 2017 by Milburn Stone

[theatremouse]

I don't usually have a problem with the accents on this show (or anything else on BBC America) but this episode I kept needing to pause and go back. Maybe it was more whispering/muttering than usual? I don't know, but it threw me off.

[voiceover]

I used to live in England, and my British ex was a sports guy.  

I write that so it can be clearly understood how fucking stupid I felt when the beach scene began & I said aloud, "Oh -- they meant English football!"

I thought this was the best ep so far. Lots of emotional levels to unpack (Trish's return trip to the field, Chloe's offer of friendship, Mark's olive branch), and even some light-hearted moments that didn't belong solely to Miller & Hardy.  Though of course, theirs were the best.

[ghoulina]

I had a feeling the guy Trish had sex with the morning of the party was Cath's husband. That really best explained why she was so adamant about not telling anyone. Her best friend. Ugh. It definitely made me like Trish less, but of course it has no bearing on her being raped. No one deserves that, and she might have also considered that if she revealed her betrayal people (including the police) would look at her in a different light. 

I did think going to the grounds of the party was very brave of her. I think she's entering the angry phase of her grief now. She seems determined to find out who this fucker is. 

So the owner of the estate is throwing stuff, including a cricket bat, away. Hmmmm. Still got my eye on him. 

The goal post twine is the same as that used in the rape? And the young kid who works at the store that sells that stuff is a student of Trish's ex? Interesting, but probably another red herring. 

Then we meet a supposed previous offender, who I feel is probably another red herring. But I don't know. At first I thought he was just a douchey guy who probably did have super drunk sex and get accused of rape. It happens, sadly. But the way he acted with Katie (is that her name? The young cop?) was very aggressive and skeevy. Just how DID they know each other? Still probably too obvious a suspect, but I wouldn't count him out. 

With the addition of a new victim, I think the thinking has to veer away from Trish's attack being personal. Yes, her name was called (she thinks), but it's a small town. He could have overheard her name at the party. I don't know. Unless the two rapes are unrelated, it seems like it may be a serial thing and not a personal thing. 

Her boss is on my radar as well. He freaked me out a bit when he was waiting for Beth. All the men on this show (save a few) are raising my hackles! Even if they're not rapists, most seem like short-tempered, dodgy, unhinged assholes. 

I have to keep thinking - who are we not looking at? At ALL? Because that's who it's going to be. Paul? Nigel? One of the male cops? 

 

I did like that Hardy had a date. He's so cute with his nervous prattling. 

I thought it was very sweet of Chloe to go visit with his daughter, try to be a friend. Like her mom, she wants to help people. 

But I ain't gonna lie, I 1000% support Mark tracking down Joe. Go ahead and bash his skull in. I won't say I wouldn't want to do the same. 

[Jodithgrace]

It seems a bit too obvious for them to spring an actual convicted rapist on us at this point of the game. He couldn't possibly be Tricia's rapist. And wasn't he is prison when the previous rape happened? The one that was just reported? 

It's interesting that we've all been expecting another rape, but i wasn't expecting it to be a previous rape.  And two years seems like a very long time for a serial rapist. i wonder if more women will suddenly come out of the woodwork, or if the 2 rapes are unrelated, despite the gag and hand tying. Neither of those thing are so outlandish that it mightn't be a coincidence. Red herrings abound in this case.

I just hope that solution is logical and fitting, not something pulled out at the last minute.  

Perhaps Beth (aka Doctor Who) might be persuaded to hop into the Tardis and go back in time to see who did it! 

[ghoulina]

9 hours ago, Milburn Stone said:

Ellie's driving me crazy again. Trish shows incredible bravery, overcoming her terror to force herself back to the scene, all for one reason--because she knows how important it is to find out if her memory can provide clues to the rapist--and Ellie keeps saying, "You don't have to do this, Trish! You don't have to do this, Trish!"

I'm sure it must be a hard line to walk - between trying to solve a crime and being sensitive to the victim. Previously Trish DID seem like she was being pushed too much, and backed down. I think Ellie is just trying to make sure she knows they're not forcing her to do this. I certainly don't envy them. It's gotta be insanely hard to keep your emotions out of it. 

 

34 minutes ago, Jodithgrace said:

It seems a bit too obvious for them to spring an actual convicted rapist on us at this point of the game. He couldn't possibly be Tricia's rapist. And wasn't he is prison when the previous rape happened? The one that was just reported? 

I was a bit confused on timing with this guy. He had a small child. How recently was he released? It would help if I could understand half of what they're saying on this show!

[DoubleUTeeEff]

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I have to keep thinking - who are we not looking at? At ALL? Because that's who it's going to be. Paul? Nigel? One of the male cops? 

I was suspecting Paul when he was talking about how many more people went to church after the murder and how hardly anybody attends now. I did watch the first two seasons but I can't remember his personality so I'm not sure how far-fetched that suspicion is.

I think there's going to end up being two rapists (Trish's and the woman who just came forward) and there will be more than one person involved in Trish's rape one way or another. It's got to be personal some how with Trish. She was at a birthday party and knew most people there. The woman who just came forward was targeted in a field walking home alone. Seems more random. A birthday party is also a more risky place since there were a lot of people milling about. Seems anyone could have walked into the crime as it was happening.

[gesundheit]

The convicted rapist was released 10 weeks ago, so that still fits in easily with the timeline. And I was assuming his wife(girlfriend?) was someone he was with prior to his imprisonment since he only spent 16 months (I think?) in prison.

[Kathira]

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I was a bit confused on timing with this guy. He had a small child. How recently was he released? It would help if I could understand half of what they're saying on this show!

I agree with those who are saying that the paroled rapist is a red herring. Super creepy and gross, but a red herring. His wife did seem very passive, but there's plenty of women who are willingly or unwillingly dominated by that kind of guy. She could even have met him while he was in prison, which is also not uncommon. I wasn't sure whether he was recently released or he just moved into the area. I have to put on the subtitles.

I think Trish's boss (Lenny Henry - I think his character's name is Ed) is in unrequited love with her. That's why he was fighting with Jim - he wants Jim to leave her alone. Cath also mentioned that he's kind of awkward socially and that he spent a lot of time talking to her at the party. He may have also sent her the flowers, not realizing how creepy that came off.

It'll be interesting to find out exactly where the other rape happened.

Edited July 20, 2017 by Kathira

[dragonsbite]

What happened to Hardy's daughter? Beth's daughter implied that she "knew what happened". AND his daughter was very self-conscious / covering herself up.

[ghoulina]

52 minutes ago, DoubleUTeeEff said:

I was suspecting Paul when he was talking about how many more people went to church after the murder and how hardly anybody attends now. I did watch the first two seasons but I can't remember his personality so I'm not sure how far-fetched that suspicion is.

I really don't think it's Paul, but I'm grasping at straws here. I always thought he was a pretty decent guy. 

 

52 minutes ago, DoubleUTeeEff said:

I think there's going to end up being two rapists (Trish's and the woman who just came forward) and there will be more than one person involved in Trish's rape one way or another. It's got to be personal some how with Trish. She was at a birthday party and knew most people there. The woman who just came forward was targeted in a field walking home alone. Seems more random. A birthday party is also a more risky place since there were a lot of people milling about. Seems anyone could have walked into the crime as it was happening.

Yes, she knew most of the people there. But the owner of the property could have been milling about. This field where the other woman was raped - could it possibly have been part of the large grounds that the party was held on? Who lives in that house? Also, there were cab drivers coming and going all night and I still haven't forgotten the dude who was unaccounted for for several hours and keeps a photo of Trish in his weird memento box. 

You could very well be right about two rapists, but I don't think it HAS to be that way. 

11 minutes ago, gesundheit said:

The convicted rapist was released 10 weeks ago, so that still fits in easily with the timeline. And I was assuming his wife(girlfriend?) was someone he was with prior to his imprisonment since he only spent 16 months (I think?) in prison.

Okay, thank you for clearing that up. So was that his child? It looked no older than two. I guess the child could have been born right before he went away, or she gave birth while he was in prison. 

3 minutes ago, dragonsbite said:

What happened to Hardy's daughter? Beth's daughter implied that she "knew what happened". AND his daughter was very self-conscious / covering herself up.

I don't think this has been revealed yet. All we really know is that she's living with her dad now because of whatever "trouble" she got into. 

[Kathira]

11 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

But the owner of the property could have been milling about. This field where the other woman was raped - could it possibly have been part of the large grounds that the party was held on? Who lives in that house?

I thought about that. Is there a caretaker or groundskeeper? The owner said his wife was cleaning up the place, but possibly they have someone to set up and clean up after parties, since they apparently rent it out on the regular as an event space. You'd think they would have mentioned that by now if there was someone there to open and close the site. Or is it just the typical British disregard of the "staff?"

Edited July 20, 2017 by Kathira

[DoubleUTeeEff]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Yes, she knew most of the people there. But the owner of the property could have been milling about. This field where the other woman was raped - could it possibly have been part of the large grounds that the party was held on? Who lives in that house? Also, there were cab drivers coming and going all night and I still haven't forgotten the dude who was unaccounted for for several hours and keeps a photo of Trish in his weird memento box. 

You could very well be right about two rapists, but I don't think it HAS to be that way. 

Good points and like Kathira says, we have yet to find out exactly where the other woman was.

I do think that even if Trish's rapist is a stranger to her, someone close to her knows something, whether they knew before hand, during or after.

1 hour ago, Kathira said:

Cath also mentioned that he's kind of awkward socially and that he spent a lot of time talking to her at the party. He may have also sent her the flowers, not realizing how creepy that came off.

He did tell Ellie to tell Trish that he was "thinking of her," the same thing the note on the flowers said.

[pezgirl7]

I can't figure out who the rapist could be. I keep coming up with crazy theories, like maybe the rapist is a woman. Maybe it was Cath, who was angry at Trish for having an affair with her husband, and she's trying to frame her husband. But then Trish said she thought she heard someone say her name from one direction, and then she got hit in the head, which might imply there were two people involved.

[Quilt Fairy]

I don't think it's a given that Trish knew her rapist or that she even knew most of the men at the party.  Remember Cath said that Jim had invited a lot of his garage contacts/suppliers, etc. (that's why there were 50-60 men at the party in the first place),  and Trish most likely wouldn't have known them.

I don't mind the possibility of red herrings.  It's indicative of police work that a lot of leads just don't pan out, even if they're attractive at first.  But my biggest gripe with Season 1 of this show was that , in the last episode of this interesting and otherwise well-written mystery, they just picked one out of a half-dozen reasonable suspects and "wrote him in" as the killer.  IMO. And I hope that's not going to happen here.  The audience needs a fair chance to work it out for themselves.

Edited July 20, 2017 by Quilt Fairy

[carrps]

1 hour ago, DoubleUTeeEff said:

He did tell Ellie to tell Trish that he was "thinking of her," the same thing the note on the flowers said.

Yep, that's why I agree that Ed's doing the socially awkward gotta crush on you thing.

Nigel...is that the tall bald guy? Can someone job my memory on who he is? I recognized him, but couldn't remember who his character was. All I knew is that when he flashed on screen my brain started flashing SKEEVE ALERT! SKEEVE ALERT!

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, carrps said:

Nigel...is that the tall bald guy? Can someone job my memory on who he is? I recognized him, but couldn't remember who his character was. All I knew is that when he flashed on screen my brain started flashing SKEEVE ALERT! SKEEVE ALERT!

He was (is?) Mark's plumbing co-worker. He found out season one that the dodgy woman living in the caravan was actually his mother. He's a close friend of the Lattimers, fairly harmless. 

[raven]

13 hours ago, ghoulina said:

One of the male cops? 

In Ep 1, we see Trish sitting outside the station and a cop milling around and talking and the voice seemed very familiar.  I thought "that's him" because the voice sounded familiar to me and we never saw his face.  I'm sure I'm wrong LOL.

I sort of liked the football match on the beach and felt like cheering when Trish showed up.  The actress is so good and I like her scenes with Beth as well.  The match seems like something a well meaning friend who feels guilty (since it was her party) might do, "hey let's have a fun and light moment". 

On 3/21/2017 at 10:43 PM, molshoop said:

I think Trish's husband had the webcam on her computer set so he could turn it on and view her

when ever he wanted to, using his computer. 

Oh I like this theory.  He was so creepy, pushing the daughter to hand over her mom's computer.  Jerk.  His girlfriend is a real prize too.  I don't think either of them is involved with the rape though.

I might actually cheer myself if the paroled rapist is the one responsible.  Yes, I'm still a little annoyed about who killed Danny and felt they were realllly stretching that one. 

Hardy being on a date was so cute, but nowhere as cute as MILLA teasing him about it.   Love those two together!  Please show. let her kid not be watching a rape?  I don't want any more family misery for Ellie.

[tennisgurl]

Oh my God, Hardy going on an awkward Tinder date was the most adorable, awkward thing ever. I assume his daughter set his profile up and encouraged him to start dating, because I don't see Hardy doing that on his own, but I'm so glad he did! The poor guy really does need more work/life balance, his heart is going to start going out on him again! The only thing better than the date itself was Millers obvious glee that Hardy was going on a date, and her teasing him about it. This show is so dark and tragic, those rare lighter moments are a damn blessing.

I so called it that the man Trish slept with was Caths husband, it explains why she got super defensive about it and refused to say who she was hooking up with on the morning of. The husband is a more obvious asshole, but that was very uncool of Trish. Wanting sex isn't a bad thing, but your best friends husband? At least she seems to feel bad, and I feel so awful for what she's been through, I cant even really be mad at her. That scene where she went back to the place where she was raped by the stream was just brutal. Almost as brutal as seeing the flashbacks to her before the attack. She really has been just so damaged. The actress is just killing it.

I wonder if Daisy was filmed having sex, or at least people are talking about something sexual that she did? It was sweet of Chloe to come and check on her. She gets being the girl everyone is talking about.

Oh, hey Nige! Remember when you lead that almost lynch mob against the old guy who committed statutory rape years ago, and who killed himself? Why don't you try that on Mr. Sex Offender Next Door? What a total creep.

[Voice of Joy]

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What a cliffhanger - this week to week show thing is AGONY

 This!  I binged the previous seasons so yes, it's agony.  But I also have more time to try and figure things out and speculate, so that's the good part. 

Hardy on a date was the most awkward, cutest thing ever.  And his daughter helped him with the computer stuff - she knows he needs a life.   I'm not sure he will ever be comfortable with a woman who isn't in law enforcement though. Heh.

I'm dead curious about what Daisy did to get herself in trouble.  And maybe that has some bearing on how passionate Hardy is about this case.  I like Chloe - she's the Latimer with a good head on her shoulders.

Yes, Mark was fixing the last supper, so to speak.  I'm surprised he tried to enlist the help of Paul.  Not the brightest bulb, is he?

If it's Paul, I will be shocked, but that line about the people not coming to church unless there's a crisis hung in the air.

I think there was filming involved in the rape, and yes, Ian has been watching his wife, but I don't think he's the rapist.  I also think Cath has a vindictive, mean streak a mile wide and she might be somehow involved in the "rape" conspiracy.  Maybe it was the purpose of the party.

The "boss" kid with the fishing twine (sorry, blanking on his name) raises the hair on the back of my neck.  If I had to guess right now, I'd point to him being in the middle of things somehow.

I continue to love Elle Miller.  My heart rate triples every time she walks down that lane alone.

I'm enjoying S3 a lot so far.  Kudos to the writers for taking on a sensitive subject and doing it well.

Edited July 21, 2017 by Voice of Joy

[Bcharmer]

On 3/21/2017 at 5:10 PM, Ravenya003 said:

Awful thought: what if the light Trish saw during the attack was someone filming her?

That was my thought, as well. When they were talking about what kind of light it could have been, and Ellie mentions a phone, I thought, "bingo."

[Milburn Stone]

4 minutes ago, Bcharmer said:

That was my thought, as well. When they were talking about what kind of light it could have been, and Ellie mentions a phone, I thought, "bingo."

So where we're headed is that Ellie, after dealing with her husband being a child-killer, will have to confront that her son is party to a rape?

Oy.

[Mabinogia]

I definitely think the light was from a cell phone camera. I just feel like having Tom and Cabby's step-son watching porn is going to play into this at some point. It makes me wonder, was Trish's husband just watching her through her laptop, or was he filming her?

That sex offender guy was one of the most disgusting examples I've seen on TV simply because he was so normal and calm about it. I can deal with all rage and bravado, but the quiet ones who know just how low to fly under the radar terrify me. How anyone could be married to that...

I'm not sure how I feel about Kath just yet. I just feel like there is something off about her. I bet she does know about Trish and her husband. I just can't decide if she actually cares.

And that missing bat is definitely the weapon the rapist used.

The scene where Trish went down to the water was chilling. Not going to lie. I was crying like a baby. No one should ever have to go through something like that. Watching her relive it was heartbreaking. When she laid down on the ground I lost it. It was truly beautifully acted.

Hardy on a date...bwwahhahahaa Just, no. He's clearly not ready for dating.

I really need Ellie to stop walking down dark alley/streets at night. Especially while distracted by her phone. I was holding my breath.

[theatremouse]

For about half a second when Chloe was talking to Daisy there was this one look... I wondered if Daisy's gay and was being tormented at school. I don't actually think that's where this plot is going, but it popped into my head during the scene.

Of course I currently have absolutely no idea where they're going with any of this, and by this time in the second season I'd very nearly figured the whole thing out, but I know better than to think I'd manage that twice.

[jeansheridan]

The show plays fair in that we have met the rapist already.  So going down the list:

Jim:  No because I can't see him filled with rage and he doesn't come off as jealous. I can't imagine him raping Trish because he felt possesive.

Ed:  No because he doesn't drink and Trish smelled vodka.  Plus I think he has a sweet and awkward crush on her.  

Ian: I lean towards no because he tends to respond like a non guilty person.  DNA?  Why should I give that.  No I didn't send those texts and he was confident.  And he was relaxed around Ellie at the football game.  Not sure about the computer.  A spy cam seems strange to me.

Cabbie and stepson:  What if he is a rapist and makes his son film the rapes?  This feels like a two person attack.  Trish even comments about how far he had to carry her from the house to the waterfall.  She is petite but still.  Maybe a two man job.

Mansion owner:  He's lurking about.  Has the wheelbarrow, knows the area. Something about him smells.  

So cabbie and mansion owner have my votes right now.

5 hours ago, theatremouse said:

wondered if Daisy's gay and was being tormented at school.

That's not a weird thought at all. And less obvious than a sex tape.

[Chyromaniac]

Oh FFS Mark - did you actually just invite the local preacher to go on your death wish revenge murder trip???

This f#$%ing town.

[jeansheridan]

7 hours ago, Milburn Stone said:

So where we're headed is that Ellie, after dealing with her husband being a child-killer, will have to confront that her son is party to a rape?

Oy.

I think more like he distributes rape videos which is deeply disturbing, but he isn't a party to rape.  I do think there's a difference, especially when someone is a minor.  Teens sometimes don't appreciate that what they are watching is real.  I've seen kids watch fights and riots on the internet and they just see it as an action sequence.  I know it's wrong of them, but they just aren't really thinking.

Plus Tom has to be somewhat messed up.  It would be unrealistic if he was just dandy.  He's the son of an accused murderer and pedophile.  Ellie really ought to have moved them away.  And I think the character Ellie would have but the show needed her to stay in Broadchurch which sucks.  But since this is probably the last season, I can live with it for one more mystery.

Just wanted to add that Olivia Coleman has the BEST shit-eating grin.  I wonder if she has brothers because man can she be such a little sister.

[Mabinogia]

I don't think Tom actually has anything to do with the rape or some porn ring other than being a customer, watching porn. I think his watching it will be how Ellie figures out this is more than just a rape. She will see something on his phone that lets her know there is some bad shit going down in that town...AGAIN! Hey, maybe the video he was watching wasn't of Trish but of this other woman who just came forward. That could explain why the boys haven't really had any reaction to Trish. They haven't seen HER video yet, just the other woman who he hasn't met IRL.

8 hours ago, jeansheridan said:

Just wanted to add that Olivia Coleman has the BEST shit-eating grin.  I wonder if she has brothers because man can she be such a little sister.

Olivia Coleman has this amazing gift of natural acting. I just feel like she is Ellie and that Ellie's reactions are Olivia's reactions. Her grins and her little laughs just seem so genuine. I really couldn't love her more if I tried.

[smorbie]

I've read that the mark of a great actor is that he can step into other roles without reminding the audience of previous characters he's played.

This last week there was an overhead scene of Tennant and Coleman walking around the area where the crime occurred.  I saw the man walking and suddenly thought, "That's the Doctor!".  I would recognize that stride anywhere.

Of course I knew Tennant was Ten, but he is so different here.  I'd totally forgotten.  And that's the whole reason I watched the show to begin with.  Anyway, well done, Tennant.  I'm glad he's gotten such a good chance to strut his stuff, again.

And, yes, Coleman is quite fantastic as well.  I also love her different smiles, one for each little put down.  I also absolutely adored it when she ran into him on his way home from his "cheeky date".  They have grown to work quite well together.  He used to frighten her a bit, I think.  At least he intimidated her.  Now, there's just such an affectionate ease between them.  

I started shipping them a little right then.  And that's kind of something I've been avoiding.  It's just so predictable, isn't it?  I wanted two colleagues who just worked well together and got work done.

I wasn't as interested in the story line this year, but it's sucked me in.  As usual the actors are just incredible.  And the scenery is worth tuning in for all by itself.

And finally, I've noticed I've started walking around, randomly calling out "Millah" at odd times.  Should I look into committing myself?

Edited July 22, 2017 by smorbie

[Mabinogia]

5 minutes ago, smorbie said:

I wasn't as interested in the story line this year, but it's sucked me in.  As usual the actors are just incredible.  And the scenery is worth tuning in for all by itself.

Seriously. Despite all the pedos and rapists I would still move to Broadchurch in a heartbeat. I'd get a rape whistle, industrial size locks for my home and I would put black tape on every single webcam, phone, computer, in my house.

I have to admit to thinking how awful it was, not just that Trish got raped, but that she was raped where she was so that she will never be able to listen to the tranquil sound of a bubbling brook, light waterfall again.

[ghoulina]

14 hours ago, jeansheridan said:

Cabbie and stepson:  What if he is a rapist and makes his son film the rapes?  This feels like a two person attack.  Trish even comments about how far he had to carry her from the house to the waterfall.  She is petite but still.  Maybe a two man job.

Mansion owner:  He's lurking about.  Has the wheelbarrow, knows the area. Something about him smells.  

So cabbie and mansion owner have my votes right now.

This is where I'm leaning as well. Those are my top suspects. Or maybe someone in mansion owner's family. 

[smorbie]

3 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

Seriously. Despite all the pedos and rapists I would still move to Broadchurch in a heartbeat. I'd get a rape whistle, industrial size locks for my home and I would put black tape on every single webcam, phone, computer, in my house.

I have to admit to thinking how awful it was, not just that Trish got raped, but that she was raped where she was so that she will never be able to listen to the tranquil sound of a bubbling brook, light waterfall again.

Oh!  I hadn't thought about that.  I do love the sound of water.  That would be really bad, like being punished the rest of her life for a crime she didn't commit to begin with.

I have medical tape over my webcam.  Should I change that out for black tape?  I didn't know there was a difference other than the color, of course.

7 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

This is where I'm leaning as well. Those are my top suspects. Or maybe someone in mansion owner's family. 

I don't even guess.  It's never who I suspect anyway.  I would make the world's worst detective.  Seriously, I could watch a crime and still not know who did it.

[smorbie]

20 hours ago, Mabinogia said:

Hardy on a date...bwwahhahahaa Just, no. He's clearly not ready for dating.

He's adorbs, but I can't imagine he would ever come across in a positive manner on a first date.  He's just not that charming.

[Mabinogia]

14 minutes ago, smorbie said:

I have medical tape over my webcam.  Should I change that out for black tape?  I didn't know there was a difference other than the color, of course.

I'm sure that's fine, anything that isn't scotch tape would probably work. I just think the black would be more aesthetically pleasing. lol

[smorbie]

Thanks.  You had me a little concerned.  I was so proud of myself for actually covering the dumb thing up.