Primetimer February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 David and Val both have post-traumatic issues after Sheila's suicide attempt, and should maybe be talking to a doctor about it instead of each other? View the full article Link to comment
Primetimer February 16, 2017 Author Share February 16, 2017 We've collected the most important imagery from 'Lover's Leap'! View the full article Link to comment
LucyHoneychrrch February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 I spent the entire ten seasons of this show quietly crushing on Steve Sanders. I KNOW, OKAY? But I'd be lying if I said I didn't make that shirtless photo the background on my phone. /shame spiral 1 Link to comment
benteen February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, LucyHoneychrrch said: I spent the entire ten seasons of this show quietly crushing on Steve Sanders. I KNOW, OKAY? But I'd be lying if I said I didn't make that shirtless photo the background on my phone. /shame spiral You have a thing for guys who buttoned his shirts all the way up to their necks? Link to comment
LucyHoneychrrch February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, benteen said: You have a thing for guys who buttoned his shirts all the way up to their necks? I know. And Ramen-noodle hair. It's shameful. :( 2 Link to comment
Earmuffs Mom February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Steve aged exceptionally well! 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 I didn't rewatch the episode - and, of course, Valerie's backstory gets taffy pulled all over the place as the series goes on - but just from the clips, I could tell TAT was doing a good job with this material. And I had forgotten about the e-mail from Cindy, that was a nice surprise! Brandon is such a cock - Valerie was trying to open up and 1) he tries to stop her unburdening herself to him and then 2) tries to push her off on her mom. Hi Gut Check Hill Over The Highway! We WILL see you again! Link to comment
MerBearStare February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 I agree, @Earmuffs Mom. I think he looks better now than he did back on the show. And no shame, @LucyHoneychrrch. As a teen I probably would have thought "Ewwww," but as an adult I can recognize that Steve really is the best guy on the show. And Ian Ziering always seems to be having fun playing Steve, which certainly helps. 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 My takeaway from the nightmare hallway is that Val/TAT's hair looks great. 1 Link to comment
Carmen MacCodykins February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Wow, the collection of bitchfaces is awesome! Well done, ladies!! :-D Link to comment
MerBearStare February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Donna and that stupid mouse/rat (Mouse Rat!)...it reminds me of that annoying plotline next season where she gets trapped in a forest fire because she was trying to rescue a baby deer, even though the baby deer is probably smarter than her, and that hot fire fighter (Cliff, I think) rescues her and falls in love with her because she's a real life Snow White, even though she put her life and his life in danger. God, I hate the canonization of St. Donna of the Cleavage Cavern. While I think Jennie Garth is pretty, she's in the same room as the Noxema girl. 99% of people are not going to be the prettiest girl in the room if they're in a room with Rebecca Gayhart. So really, show, let's dial it back. But her hair is still looking great, in my opinion. I am looking forward to Val and David getting together. It's nice that she has someone who is on her side, unlike Brandon and Dylan. Tracy was recently brought up in one of the forums and while Tracy is sooooo boring and is obviously a place holder until Kelly and Brandon get back together, I really liked her and Val's friendship. It was nice that Val had someone on her side and didn't care about Kelly/Donna/Claire. I've said before that I'll never be 100% with Val, but I do hate seeing her get ganged up on. 2 Link to comment
Kimmykun February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 The teenage boy me didn't even look at Steve/Ian, but grown me? Hello, Steve. Link to comment
CurlyATX February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Is this just based on looks or is personality factored in? I think I would still choose modern-day David. Steve's privilege just is too much for me. 1 Link to comment
profreader February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Nightmare Suicide Hallway is my new Nordic Death Metal band. Until some of the members leave and we re-form into Nightmare Suicide Bathroom. Side project: Album of Electronica entitled "This Collection Of Bitchfaces" Side Side Project: Yacht Rock group, "Crew-dites" 7 Link to comment
CurlyATX February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 One thing I do like about Tracey is that she didn't let Brandon off the hook at the end. He dumps her and does the whole "can we be friends" thing and she basically says she can't be friends with a douche-bag like him. I like that she finds her great guy later on. I really wish Kelly's bitchiness wasn't always "right in the end". She's mean to almost every new person (Suzanne and Val) from the start, before they can prove themselves. I don't like how the show justifies her behavior- like she's got a 6th sense or something. 1 Link to comment
Jax7917 February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 The best is when brandon sees a picture of him and tracy and looks all nostalgic like he wants her back. Bitch please. He couldn't dump her fast enough. I do think rebecca gayhart is really pretty, but her acting is really not on par. And how annoying is it every second when she says " my father". Idk why I notice these things lol. I do find toni and dylan cute together and that is the only time i'll say dylan looks cute with anyone because usually he is a miserable choice of a boyfriend. 1 Link to comment
Jax7917 February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 why would toni's father have a picture framed of him and jack mckay in his office? Oh yea, so dylan can see it. There would be no other reason 6 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 And this really seems to be the week for Rebecca Gayheart nostalgia, given that E! just announced they're developing an adaptation of "Jawbreaker". Link to comment
benteen February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, MerBearStare said: Donna and that stupid mouse/rat (Mouse Rat!)...it reminds me of that annoying plotline next season where she gets trapped in a forest fire because she was trying to rescue a baby deer, even though the baby deer is probably smarter than her, and that hot fire fighter (Cliff, I think) rescues her and falls in love with her because she's a real life Snow White, even though she put her life and his life in danger. God, I hate the canonization of St. Donna of the Cleavage Cavern. I had forgotten about Donna and the deer but you're right, that was probably St. Donna at her worst. LOL about the baby deer being smarter. I totally agree with that. Link to comment
allicatexp February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Speaking of St. Donna...we all can look forward to her and Joe's car breaking down in the "bad" neighborhood and them taking care of those kids whose mother had to work...they really did lay it on thick making her a savior. Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Oh, and I forgot to mention earlier, but while cheesy, that banter between Steve and Claire at the end of their date was kinda cute. Has there been any mention between these two that she used to date his friend? Link to comment
Stowaway February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 (edited) I sort of appreciated that they tried to treat ECT as a legitimate therapy, and not as a cruel punishment for nonconformity (the way it's portrayed everywhere else in all of pop culture). The writing was risible, but hey, it's 90210. Edited February 16, 2017 by Stowaway 1 Link to comment
Earmuffs Mom February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said: Has there been any mention between these two that she used to date his friend? No, not until next season when they go to the beach club reunion and she gets mad about Steve and Kelly sleeping together in high school. She makes some point about how incestuous their little group is with each other. Her pissiness about it comes out of nowhere because in the Unreal World episode she is there when Steve says that if Kelly would take him back, he would go in a second. She's known for years that they dated. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 I vaguely remember Clare's comment next season that The Gang is incestuous, which is rich coming from her given her jumps from Brandon (kinda) to David to Steve. 1 Link to comment
WoodyCee February 16, 2017 Share February 16, 2017 Steve aged exceptionally well! When I watched Sharknado I thought... Damnnnn Steve looks good now.... Link to comment
luckyroll3 February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 13 hours ago, Earmuffs Mom said: Steve aged exceptionally well! He really did! I was shocked to learn how old he was when he showed up on WWHL a couple months ago. He's almost the same age as Auhndrea! Link to comment
luckyroll3 February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 (edited) On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 8:45 AM, MerBearStare said: Donna and that stupid mouse/rat (Mouse Rat!)...it reminds me of that annoying plotline next season where she gets trapped in a forest fire because she was trying to rescue a baby deer, even though the baby deer is probably smarter than her, and that hot fire fighter (Cliff, I think) rescues her and falls in love with her because she's a real life Snow White, even though she put her life and his life in danger. God, I hate the canonization of St. Donna of the Cleavage Cavern. This was the stupidest thing Donna has done on this show and even though I knew she would get rescued, I was hoping she would die of smoke inhalation and the fawn would eat her. On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 8:45 AM, MerBearStare said: I am looking forward to Val and David getting together. It's nice that she has someone who is on her side, unlike Brandon and Dylan. Tracy was recently brought up in one of the forums and while Tracy is sooooo boring and is obviously a place holder until Kelly and Brandon get back together, I really liked her and Val's friendship. It was nice that Val had someone on her side and didn't care about Kelly/Donna/Claire. I've said before that I'll never be 100% with Val, but I do hate seeing her get ganged up on. As much as I can't stand Brandon, I really wish they hadn't thrown away the opportunity for him and Val to be great friends. It was ruined by that stupid retconned storyline of Val always being in love with Brandon and missing her opportunity with him even after they almost got together, as well as at every turn by Kelly who just refused to give Val a damn break even when Val was trying (which just pushed Val to scheme more). She was so much nastier to Val than Val was to her, and all of her shitty friends, besides David, never said anything to her and just shrugged their shoulders in an "oh well" when Val gets kicked every time. I hate to agree with Ray, but they all really are jerks. Speaking of Kelly, her complete lack of disregard for David is so shitty and continues beyond this episode. When David starts exhibiting Spoiler signs of manic depression/bipoloar disorder later on this season (or maybe it was the next one....these seasons are waaaaay too long!), everyone else at least asks around about David, except for her and she's family! Anytime David comes up, she quickly turns the conversation back to herself. I don't understand how she's supposed to be the heroine when she's just a straight up bitch all the damn time! [/rant over]. And thank god she doesn't become a psychologist/psychiatrist/therapist because she's obviously not learning shit in college. Worst psych major Evah! I've already selected her as the season LVP Edited February 17, 2017 by luckyroll3 2 Link to comment
Petunia13 February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 12 hours ago, CurlyATX said: I really wish Kelly's bitchiness wasn't always "right in the end". She's mean to almost every new person (Suzanne and Val) from the start, before they can prove themselves. Kelly's whole angst the first 3 seasons was about how she was slut shamed and superficially judged or excluded by strangers. So what she does is...immediately do this to every newbie woman joining the gang. Learned nothing! Can't with her. GTFO with this "oh this sucked when it happened to me, but I'm going to perpetuate the cycle with every challenging (due to her beauty or confidence) girl I meet" bs. And then she says stuff like she's empowered or has grown and it's like ... really? Seems like you've taken 5 steps back. 5 Link to comment
SoupThrower February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 16 hours ago, TeeVee329 said: I didn't rewatch the episode - and, of course, Valerie's backstory gets taffy pulled all over the place as the series goes on - but just from the clips, I could tell TAT was doing a good job with this material. And I had forgotten about the e-mail from Cindy, that was a nice surprise! Brandon is such a cock - Valerie was trying to open up and 1) he tries to stop her unburdening herself to him and then 2) tries to push her off on her mom. Hi Gut Check Hill Over The Highway! We WILL see you again! While I don't like to say this but to be fair to Brandon. He kind of did want to make sure if she wants to talk about it and telling her to talk to her mother was the right idea. He was out of his depth and he knew it. Kelly is the worst. This was her brother and she didn't even help him at all. What a jerk. It is kind of sad that other than Donna and Valerie, no one tried to help. I would think Clare and Steve would have attempted but noooope. David and Brandon are generally on Val's side. Finally we get to see her in a relationship where she's not 'evil' Link to comment
Klaw February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 21 hours ago, CurlyATX said: Steve's privilege just is too much for me. ITA. I agree that of the regular cast, Steve, personality-wise is the best choice and of all the characters, I thought he grew up the most. But man, the way they sometimes make him racist-ish and elitist is too much for me. In theory, I would probably go for a "MR. LIBERAL"-type like Brandon, but he's such an annoying BRAY in the ass there's no way. Dylan is a stick insect and no way I date a man with a waist smaller than mine. David - nope. Not with his orange juice addictions and tone of voice set to perpetual bitch. Now that I think about it, I NEVER liked any of the guys of the niner. I think the closest I came was liking - a little bit - S1 and S2 Delicious!Cumin! Dylan before he became aggro asshole SOD!Dylan. 1 Link to comment
CurlyATX February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Klaw said: way I date a man with a waist smaller than mine A little TMI, I dated a guy in college like this. I used to go for tall and thin but somehow I got so freaked out that his thighs were smaller than mine (and I'm a very petite gal). I guess this proves that I wouldn't have been in The Gang since I wouldn't have wanted to date them all. Link to comment
Jax7917 February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 I think dylan was very over rated by the ladies. Brandon and David were much cuter, with steve for the personality win. David's personality could be cute at times too. I have to say, I don't buy that Donna was really in love with David at the end of the show. I think they ended up together by default because Noah did something shady so Donna then became single for a day...After Donna lost her virginity to David, she seemed very cold to him and moved on to Noah in a hot second. 1 Link to comment
Flamingo February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 I think Toni, Susan, Clare (with better make up), and (obviously) Val are prettier than Kelly. This isn't to say Kelly isn't pretty but none of these women should feel insecure next to her. Plus, they all have better personalities to make them more attractive. Link to comment
Jax7917 February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 I'm in the minority but I never found Clare pretty. Her nose is way too distracting. I found kelly very pretty depending on the season and on the hairstyle 2 Link to comment
Flamingo February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 Speaking of St. Donna...we all can look forward to her and Joe's car breaking down in the "bad" neighborhood and them taking care of those kids whose mother had to work...they really did lay it on thick making her a savior. Watching that episode on Pop right now. I find myself wanting to punch Donna. 1 Link to comment
Flamingo February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 I sort of appreciated that they tried to treat ECT as a legitimate therapy, and not as a cruel punishment for nonconformity (the way it's portrayed everywhere else in all of pop culture). The writing was risible, but hey, it's 90210. Agree. I cringed when I realized they were headed in that direction. On a personal note, my sister credits ECT with saving her life. She had been in the hospital multiple times for several weeks (don't get me started on how someone who attempted suicide isn't in a regular hospital room with GLASS vases of flowers like the dimwits on TV always show). It was still up to her and the only reason it was discussed with me is because she wanted to hear my opinion. The doctors would have never let me talk her into it though. 2 Link to comment
Flamingo February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 My takeaway from the nightmare hallway is that Val/TAT's hair looks great. Mine too. And although I don't typically wear them, I was loving that gown she was wearing. 1 Link to comment
ZeroDiscipline February 18, 2017 Share February 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Flamingo said: Watching that episode on Pop right now. I find myself wanting to punch Donna. I have been home a lot this week and have been watching this stretch of episodes on Pop. I have really been enjoying them, actually! I feel like this was the last gasp of this show. The writers were still building on ongoing events with the characters, and they were pretty consistent. The new characters really helped out. It is so frustrating to know that after Kelly's coke addiction, this show pretty much stops trying. The SWF Tara nonsense killed it. I am so sorry for the podcast recappers, because this is the beginning of the end. But the end drags out for five more years. 2 Link to comment
Corey Ann February 20, 2017 Share February 20, 2017 (edited) Why has no one brought up Donna's scarily long toenails in the GIF of the mouse wrangling? I think I'd rather cuddle a rat/mouse than touch those talons. Eep! Edited February 20, 2017 by Corey Ann Pics needed adding so I'm not the only one horrified 3 Link to comment
Lisin February 20, 2017 Share February 20, 2017 35 minutes ago, Corey Ann said: Why has no one brought up Donna's scarily long toenails in the GIF of the mouse wrangling? I think I'd rather cuddle a rat/mouse than touch those talons. Eep! Please god let that be some sort of terrible optical illusion and not really long toenails! PLEASE! Barf! Link to comment
Cekrypton1 February 21, 2017 Share February 21, 2017 I know it could have been cheesy, but the revelation at the end that Val regularly tempts herself like this just shows how badass she is. Our hosts have mentioned this before, but she really is too good for these other dummies. 2 Link to comment
benteen March 13, 2017 Share March 13, 2017 Didn't think of this until just now but nice of Dylan to put Brandon and Susan's life at risk by snooping around the house of a mobster while they were in the mansion. Speaking of which, nice to Brandon to put Susan's life in danger there because he knew what Dylan was doing with Marchette. Link to comment
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