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This is so true. And it's not like they have a valid reason for NOT moving. They don't have jobs. They can essentially live anywhere. It's like Amber wanting to live in her fancy neighborhood, instead of being closer to their child's school. Priorities. 

 

I agree that the AA girls are brats, but I kind of love it because Leah is on the receiving end of their shit. 

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On 2/14/2017 at 3:01 PM, leighroda said:

Jenelle and Dave make me so mad, I don't think Nathan is a winner by any means, but no matter what he does they shit on it... he wants to discuss parenting, all he wanted was to be on the same page and know what was going on.  Nathan wasn't acting like he desperately wanted to be back with Jenelle in my opinion. 

I got the feeling that Janelle was telling Dave first, in case he found out partial details and came to any conclusions himself without knowing first. Almost like she wanted to tell ahead of time so he didn't get mad about it.

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1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

This is so true. And it's not like they have a valid reason for NOT moving. They don't have jobs. They can essentially live anywhere. It's like Amber wanting to live in her fancy neighborhood, instead of being closer to their child's school. Priorities. 

 

I agree that the AA girls are brats, but I kind of love it because Leah is on the receiving end of their shit. 

I thought it was crazy when Leah told Addy that she was getting a time out, and then kept repeating, "I'm not joking. I will give time out. I will." Deep breath. "I am going to do it. Yes. I will."

after three kids, how is it this hard to talk yourself into parenting them? It's not freaking climbing Mount Everest. Just give the time out and move on with life!

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22 minutes ago, leighroda said:

I'm not sure where the best place for this is, but this is Nates response to the episode, I'm not sure what he meant about the woman with aids though.

Apart from the Aids caretaker comment I'm actually quite impressed with Nate's response. Sure it's not going to do anything to build bridges for co-parenting, but even the sanest of people would be driven to react to Janelle and Uncle ID channel. I'm just impressed overall because in it's own not so classy way it's actually well reasoned and the writing is comprehensible.  Again Nathan is benefiting from the oh so very lo bar set by Janelle et. al.

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Ooooh.  Janelle had a Snapchat of a trip to the blue ridge mountains. I know that isn't THAT far from where she lives but I bet she and UBT left their newborn with someone. Just a guess.  

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1 hour ago, shelley1234 said:

Really?  Jo has joked with Kail about their past and how douchey she was before in the past few conversations.  That doesn't seem like walking on eggshells to me.  Right now...they both just seem like good friends.  

Yeah I guess it's more like I feel like Kail is a loose cannon who could just snap at any second haha

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1 hour ago, Mkay said:

Ooooh.  Janelle had a Snapchat of a trip to the blue ridge mountains. I know that isn't THAT far from where she lives but I bet she and UBT left their newborn with someone. Just a guess.  

I'm trying not to be judge-y, but this Jenelle after all. Who in their right mind would leave a 2-week old baby voluntarily to go off on a pleasure trip?! I'd give her a pass if it was an emergency of some type, but wouldn't she take the baby with her in that case. A vacay in the Blue Ridge Mts don't make no sense, to quote Mama Dawn.

Not a maternal bone in Jenelle's body, I don't care how many children she gives birth to. That's one Earth Mother that can hang up her flower crown.

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Hard to know what Nathan is implying in his comment about AIDS. Is he going back to the stone age where AIDS can be transmitted by any means or is he implying a woman who may have AIDS is too ill to be caring for a newborn? He does give me a vibe that he may be ignorant about such a disease. He is using the word "rumor" so that does seem to show he does not even know if she is too ill to care for a newborn. Geez. Nathan was making points and now he throws this out there. Idiot.

When UBT caught himself calling Nathan a bitch, I wondered if Nathan had brought that behavior to the attention of the courts. Going by his comment above, he did. 

Nice to know Nathan is on top of his court case with Jenelle. He did say on the weekend special how he keeps notes about what Jenelle and David say and do on the show so he can use it in court. Good for him! Good for that judge for taking that matter seriously. UBT and his name-calling is something the kids do not need to hear. Sadly, you know it is happening when there are no cameras around. 

That must be one of many reasons why UBT hates Nathan. UBT cannot stand not being in control.

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How dare Jenelle co-parent with her son's father!  That's crazy talk!  And how dare Nathan allow his mother to take his son to church with her!  The NERVE!  I mean, unless you're shooting up heroin and living in abandoned buildings using your mom's stolen credit card, there's no excuse for leaving your child with a grandparent.  Duh.

I thought it was extremely mature and stand up for Chelsea to be protective of Cole's feelings with respect to revealing the baby's sex (I hate it when people say gender.  Gender is a social construct, people.) And to be honest, I'm kind of jealous of how excited Cole is about the pregnancy.  My husband is a great dad but he was less than enthusiastic during both of my pregnancies.  He's an eternal pessimist so while I had stars in my eyes thinking about adorable babies and tiny little booties he was freaking out thinking about sleepless nights and baby puke everywhere.

I totally get where both Vee and Jo are coming from.  I get Jo not rocking the boat and I get Vee getting irritated at the situation, ESPECIALLY if Jo's support would go down if he were to get 50/50 custody.  Vee is right, Kail's wishes change on a whim and next week she could decide she hates Jo and doesn't want him to see Issac outside of his allotted time again. 

I just saw a flash of Deb on a teaser for the aftershow and had to rewind to make sure I saw it right.  Holy hell.  Now I wish I would've watched her "song."  Good lord.  The more I see of Deb the more I get why Farrah is as fucked up as she is.  There's not a chance in hell little Sofia is going to not be as crazy as her mother and grandmother. 

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Idk, I feel like Chelsea is being a little disingenuous with this "I must respect Cole's privacy at all costs" act. I mean, she has no problem submitting her own child up for public consumption for the past seven years but poor wittle Cole can't handle MTV knowing the sex of his baby? I give that a major side-eye. He jumped on board the fame train the moment he started hawking tooth whiteners and vitamins on Instagram. 

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7 hours ago, leighroda said:

I'm not sure where the best place for this is, but this is Nates response to the episode, I'm not sure what he meant about the woman with aids though.

I'm impressed with how well written this diatribe is. Every time I expected to see a misspelling, it was right!  

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4 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

I'm impressed with how well written this diatribe is. Every time I expected to see a misspelling, it was right!  

He said "had to be escort by security" instead of "escorted," but other than that, I agree with you. Surprisingly well written.

I go back and forth on Nathan. We see him with Kaiser on the show or instagram, and it looks like he's such a better parent than Jailnelle. But then those reports of domestic violence come out (over and over again), and I think he's dangerous. And then I think about what I've read about PTSD and TBI and how much they can change a formerly good, stable person into a violent mess, and then I feel really bad for him.

Basically, it's complicated. LOL

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12 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Idk, I feel like Chelsea is being a little disingenuous with this "I must respect Cole's privacy at all costs" act. I mean, she has no problem submitting her own child up for public consumption for the past seven years but poor wittle Cole can't handle MTV knowing the sex of his baby? I give that a major side-eye. He jumped on board the fame train the moment he started hawking tooth whiteners and vitamins on Instagram. 

I kinda think maybe Chelsea regrets putting so much out there with Aubree, and wanted more privacy, but didn't want to be the "bad guy" so saying it's for Cole's sake is easier. Either way I don't take issue with it, mostly because there are other train wrecks that need my attention. 

Nathan did misspell "though" when he was saying he should say thank you to Jenelle. Also he took more than a day to post that... he probably went over it over and over because he knew it would be scrutinized.  I appreciate him having the foresight to go over it, so I'm not really snarking on that, but I don't think it proves he's a scholar either.

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16 hours ago, leighroda said:

I'm not sure where the best place for this is, but this is Nates response to the episode, I'm not sure what he meant about the woman with aids though.

guys, I'm sorry, but I'm terribly impressed by the correct spelling of the word "you're."

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I think Nathan might have a hard time with words.  I do, now.  And it's particularly rough when speaking.  (I post here and on Facebook to train my brain back to normal.)  The worst feeling is knowing what word you want but not being able to find it's way out of your mouth.  And people recognize that but patronize you with an "it's ok".  It's not ok.  Pass me some paper and a pen, or a phone, and I can get the right words out eventually.  

Nathan's post reminds me of that.  I also make fun of his dramastical errors with words, but usually just when they happen in a regular setting.(<--see that? Can't find the word I want to use.)  Anyway, this post looks like he took time to think about it and it meant something to him.  I can't fault him for any of it.  

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8 minutes ago, teapot said:

guys, I'm sorry, but I'm terribly impressed by the correct spelling of the word "you're."

Me too! If he'd ended the sentence about the baby at just leaving a 2 week old, it would have been perfect! Those two idiots left little Endtable at 2 weeks old so they could have a weekend getaway?  I had a hard time leaving my babies to go grocery shopping when they were that tiny. And, for christ's sake, who goes off for a romantic weekend at 2 weeks post partum? 

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14 minutes ago, lovesnark said:

Me too! If he'd ended the sentence about the baby at just leaving a 2 week old, it would have been perfect! Those two idiots left little Endtable at 2 weeks old so they could have a weekend getaway?  I had a hard time leaving my babies to go grocery shopping when they were that tiny. And, for christ's sake, who goes off for a romantic weekend at 2 weeks post partum? 

Two weeks postpartum...I was barely coherent. Sleep deprived, wearing the mesh chones from the hospital, in the painful part of breastfeeding, bumping into shit. I can't imagine leaving my 2 week old for a getaway? Really?

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My general rule is - which can change depending on my mood or how the planets are aligned - I don't care about someone's misspelling of words unless they are behaving like an asshole. For example, if Amber tweeted "Your an idiot" it should be "you're" and the irony of that statement makes it snark-worthy especially if she is slamming people. If she tweeted that about scummy Matt, I'd ignore the spelling. See where I am going? To me, Nathan is not being an ass in his posting although Jenelle and UBT would say he is. The AIDs comment is an ass move. He had me when he mentioned they left their newborn. That was enough. No need to mention the woman and her possible health status.

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1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I noticed his correct usage of "they're," and I am impressed.  That's the one that usually gets them.

Or your for you're. I'm thinking he may have had some help...I don't think proper use of contractions are a strong suit for anybody on Teen  Mom...

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17 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

My general rule is - which can change depending on my mood or how the planets are aligned - I don't care about someone's misspelling of words unless they are behaving like an asshole. For example, if Amber tweeted "Your an idiot." It should be "you're" and the irony of that statement makes it snark-worthy especially if she is slamming people. If she tweeted that about scummy Matt, I'd ignore the spelling. See where I am going? To me, Nathan is not being an ass in his posting although Jenelle and UBT would say he is. The AIDs comment is an ass move. He had me when he mentioned they left their newborn. That was enough. No need to mention the woman and her possible health status.

Ha! Just saw this after I posted. I'm with you....

What does UBT stand for BTW? I'm fairly new to this particular board. I'm like a new poster on VP Rules who doesn't know FI Tom stands for flat iron.

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1 minute ago, Jennifersdc said:

Ha! Just saw this after I posted. I'm with you....

What does UBT stand for BTW? I'm fairly new to this particular board. I'm like a new poster on VP Rules who doesn't know FI Tom stands for flat iron.

UBT stands for Uncle Bad Touch.

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23 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Two weeks postpartum...I was barely coherent. Sleep deprived, wearing the mesh chones from the hospital, in the painful part of breastfeeding, bumping into shit. I can't imagine leaving my 2 week old for a getaway? Really?

Well, I guess we know she's not nursing little Endtable. She must have missed that chapter in her earth mother handbook. All good earth mothers nurse their babies while wearing their flower crowns, Jenelle.

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1 hour ago, lovesnark said:

Me too! If he'd ended the sentence about the baby at just leaving a 2 week old, it would have been perfect! Those two idiots left little Endtable at 2 weeks old so they could have a weekend getaway?  I had a hard time leaving my babies to go grocery shopping when they were that tiny. And, for christ's sake, who goes off for a romantic weekend at 2 weeks post partum? 

Isn't this also the getaway where they got engaged? I haven't been on Jenelle's thread in a while

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16 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

Isn't this also the getaway where they got engaged? I haven't been on Jenelle's thread in a while

Probably. But, she didn't announce it until Valentine's Day and the pic of them is at the beach, so they were home from their romantic, 2 weeks postpartum getaway.

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I was laughing hard when Barb asked Jenelle if she was going to marry UBT. Jenelle responded she had to be engaged first before she planned a wedding. As if doing things in the right order is a must. Pretty damn ridiculous when you are due to give birth to your third child. Just go straight to the wedding or go to the courthouse and forget about the engagement phase. What a joke.

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On 2/10/2017 at 2:35 PM, EmeraldGirl said:

I posted in Leah's thread that they all needed to take a breath and not have more children so fast without genetic counseling. I couldn't believe Corey had a child so quickly with Miranda, and of course Leah couldn't wait to give Germy a baby. If my child has a disease that is that hard to diagnose? I'm scared to death that it could happen again. 

It blows my mind that they both pretty quickly had more kids without getting genetic testing for them and their new partners (well, I guess we don't know for sure if Corey & Miranda did or didn't, but we know Leah didn't even think about it before getting pregnant with Jeremy.

On 2/13/2017 at 9:16 PM, Christina87 said:

Something just really scared me when they were sitting in that car. UBT started grilling Jenelle about Nathan, and then yelled out about him being a little bitch, and Jenelle had the balls to speak up, for once, and say, "not in front of the kids." I think he also kind of said, "oops," like it was an ongoing issue they're having. Something in his body language scared me at that moment, like he kind of jerked and glowered before grunting that it happened too fast to stop. It really, really bothered him that Jenelle stood up to him, and that dangerous impulse is there. That scene was very telling of what's to come. Run, Jenelle. Run!

it also broke my heart to see happy Kaiser playing with Nathan, and then the camera cut to a sad-looking Jace. It seemed to accentuate the message that Kaiser has one parent who loves him, and poor Jace has zero. It also struck me in this episode how little time any of Jenelle's kids are in her direct care. It would terrify me to trust kids with any of these people, except Barbara!

^^^Bolded by me. I think that was code for "not in front of the cameras."

19 hours ago, leighroda said:

I'm not sure where the best place for this is, but this is Nates response to the episode, I'm not sure what he meant about the woman with aids though.

Nathan has their number.

If he'd have left off the part about AIDS, I'd have applauded him. 

Who the heck leaves their 2 week old child to go on a vacation? First off, at two weeks postpartum I was just starting to be able to sit and move around with little discomfort. Secondly, who doesn't want to spend that time with their new, adorable baby just looking at him/her? ....Oh yeah...Jenelle, that's who.

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17 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Idk, I feel like Chelsea is being a little disingenuous with this "I must respect Cole's privacy at all costs" act. I mean, she has no problem submitting her own child up for public consumption for the past seven years but poor wittle Cole can't handle MTV knowing the sex of his baby? I give that a major side-eye. He jumped on board the fame train the moment he started hawking tooth whiteners and vitamins on Instagram. 

But Cole isn't Aubree's dad. Adumb is, and he could clearly not care less if they film her, don't film her, whatever. While I don't love it, I think there's a big difference between endorsing products for some extra money and wanting all your PERSONAL business front and center. I think Cole loves Chelsea, but isn't (and never has been) a big fan of the show. After all this time, he still comes off a bit awkward. But he's made his peace with it and he probably knows it benefits them to a degree. But I see nothing disingenuous with wanting to keep this baby/wedding stuff to a minimum. It's the same way with Cory and Miranda. The twinses are still shown plenty because they're Leah's kidses as well, and part of the original show. But they keep Remi private. I have no issue with it. In fact, I applaud Chelsea for being the first mom on this series to put up some healthy boundaries. 

 

13 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

I'm impressed with how well written this diatribe is. Every time I expected to see a misspelling, it was right!  

I was shocked he used the word "ulterior" correctly. 

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I'll respectfully agree to disagree. I'll only applaud it if they keep Watson off the show entirely the way Cory did with Remi. I think Chelsea's allowed a lot of leeway because she's a fan favorite. If MTV gave her an ultimatum of choosing to put everything out there or being cut from the show, she'd cave in a heartbeat. Doing facials once a week at the spa isn't going to keep her in Range Rovers and ratty extensions. 

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27 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I'll respectfully agree to disagree. I'll only applaud it if they keep Watson off the show entirely the way Cory did with Remi. I think Chelsea's allowed a lot of leeway because she's a fan favorite. If MTV gave her an ultimatum of choosing to put everything out there or being cut from the show, she'd cave in a heartbeat. Doing facials once a week at the spa isn't going to keep her in Range Rovers and ratty extensions. 

I don't think so. I think she'd quit. She's already hinted at it several times. I think Randy has been very prudent about managing her money, and Cole works. 

I don't necessarily think Chelsea is being given any leeway. I just think the others don't care as much about having all their drama out there. They like the attention, good or bad. But if she IS being given any leeway, it might be because of how she treats people. 

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On 2/14/2017 at 1:03 PM, Trace said:

You're almost making me wonder when one of my older sibs joined this board.  But then you apologized, so I knew you could never be one of those four......

This why I watch this shit. I love our tribe.

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Considering that Mandi, Chelsea's producer,  is filming there this weekend and upcoming week I'm assuming Watson will be on film.  

 

On snapchat Chelsea posts videos of Cole, who doesn't appear to know she is recording, playing around and dancing with Aubree.  It is the sweetest thing. He seems a lot more silly and laid back than what he looks like on MTV. 

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I don't think Chelsea gets leeway because she's a fan favorite.  If she gets any leeway it's because she's in a position to walk away from filming and be fine without it.  I think she's getting closer each season to doing it.  If she doesn't want some things filmed and they push her....she'll be done.  The rest can talk a good game, but MTV knows they need to keep filming.  Chelsea likes the MTV paycheck, but she doesn't NEED it.  

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6 minutes ago, shelley1234 said:

I don't think Chelsea gets leeway because she's a fan favorite.  If she gets any leeway it's because she's in a position to walk away from filming and be fine without it.  I think she's getting closer each season to doing it.  If she doesn't want some things filmed and they push her....she'll be done.  The rest can talk a good game, but MTV knows they need to keep filming.  Chelsea likes the MTV paycheck, but she doesn't NEED it.  

Yes. Many of these mothers (and the scummy men they share a bed with) cannot afford to wean from the MTV tit. Chelsea can leave and still have comfort -- so the producers respect her wishes. I think that if Chelsea really wanted the gender reveal slip edited out, it would have not made it to the episode. 

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11 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Yes. Many of these mothers (and the scummy men they share a bed with) cannot afford to wean from the MTV tit. Chelsea can leave and still have comfort -- so the producers respect her wishes. I think that if Chelsea really wanted the gender reveal slip edited out, it would have not made it to the episode. 

This^ and what ghoulina posted.

Chelsea is not about leasing the most expensive vehicles and taking a hundred vacations a year, accruing the most expensive purses, clothes, what have you. Spending some money on extensions and a vehicle is tame compared to how the others live.  Plenty of people buy expensive vehicles and don't earn six figures. I think she is giving just enough to satisfy her contract with MTV while putting her earnings away.  Her lifestyle doesn't require her to have to continue with this show. The rest of the clan live their lives to the point that they are pimping themselves out to MTV. Their lifestyles are beyond their means. They n;eed MTV like some people need welfare to survive.

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But, if she hates the show so much and has all this money stacked up, why does she keep re-signing year after year? I'm not trying to start an argument or debate, I guess I just don't see Chelsea as any different than the other girls in this respect. She's a lot like Adam, where there's the subtle hints and threats of walking away, but she never does it. She may be a hell of a lot smarter with her money, but she's still earning her income through a trashy reality show, just like Leah, Kail, Jenelle, Farrah, Macy etc.  Mileage varies, I understand, so I'll leave it alone. 

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3 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I'll respectfully agree to disagree. I'll only applaud it if they keep Watson off the show entirely the way Cory did with Remi. I think Chelsea's allowed a lot of leeway because she's a fan favorite. If MTV gave her an ultimatum of choosing to put everything out there or being cut from the show, she'd cave in a heartbeat. Doing facials once a week at the spa isn't going to keep her in Range Rovers and ratty extensions. 

She held strong when it came to not allowing them to film her wedding so I'm inclined to believe her intentions are good and she'd stand by her boundaries.

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Does anyone know if this is for sure the last season? They've been milking the same storylines for a few years now and the gravy train has to end soon, right? I can't imagine what most of them will do when they have to finally face real life after the star fades.

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if she hates the show so much

I don't think Chelsea has mentioned hating this show. The other girls have mentioned their dislike constantly about the show. The guys as well. Chelsea not choosing to air certain parts of her life doesn't equate hate. Unless there is something she said about hating this show that I missed. I think Chelsea just gives enough of what she wants, MTV is okay with it, and they continue to sign her. I think MTV gives us Chelsea to give us a break from the rest of the pack. lol  I know her scenes are boring to some, but I really love the break from the drama.

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On February 15, 2017 at 2:02 AM, fetching said:

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Jo kind of betrayed his wife when he spoke to Kail about custody? He totally buckled to her needy self centered BS about how she is on her own now and needs extra help, and didn't stand up for Vee when Kail expressed that she now had bad feelings about her. I like Jo, but grow a pair dude. Also, Javi should have called the police when Kail refused to let him come back to his own house after he returned from being deployed. Why do all these people keep caving to her? 

I don't think Jo and Vee are married..

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I think Chelsea does the show just because fear of the unknown is scary! In this case, it is living without a 300K income. First it was Randy's, and now it's the show. I do think Cole has a decent job and they can maintain a comfortable middle class life, especially with the house already bought and so much in savings. However, the lifestyle will be a huge adjustment, and she knows it. 

My dad earns probably somewhere in Randy's neighborhood, and I definitely had a privileged upbringing. In college, I was swiping his credit card and buying basically whatever i wanted, while my friends worked part-time jobs just to afford gas. I decided to go into education, but was terrified, and I mean TERRIFIED about the lifestyle change. I feel I'm a lot like Chelsea in that I live a frugal lifestyle and don't need extravagance, but I knew the drop was going to be hard. Thankfully, when I started living on a teacher's income, I was able to very comfortably afford my lifestyle, and buy whatever I want within reason. I don't feel deprived at all, and am proud of myself for actually saving a lot of money! It's nice to make my own money without depending on anyone, and I barely miss those days when I would just drop $200 at the mall on a whim. Chelsea will hopefully feel the same way, because the drop in income looks a lot scarier when it's looming  in the future than when it really happens. 

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