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SEAL Team Six troop leader Rip Taggart makes a questionable decision while on a mission in Afghanistan. Two years later, Rip is captured by Boko Haram and it's up to his former SEAL Team Six brothers to locate and rescue him.

 

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Or will History's new military drama leave you wanting an early discharge?

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[Drogo]

During a tense raid on an oil tanker in Lagos, the SEAL Team attempts to detain a courier for Boko Haram who could be the key to finding Rip's whereabouts.

[Yakimaman]

I barely made it to the first commercial.  Won't be back.  Just so, so bad. (and I  am a Goggins fan)

[Febgirl]

Woof. And I love Walton Goggins!  Other than him, the acting was so bad. Especially by the two wives.  I will dvr and just watch his scenes, maybe. I read a review today that perfectly described this show as a CBS show with cursing. 

[ShortyMac]

Watched for Walton Goggins. I liked it. 

[Artsda]

After about half way through I started to really get interested in it. Love the casting. 

[CrazyDog]

I'm in. I don't care about the domestic drama, (though the guy who wanted out is a little more interesting) but Goggins is great. Hopefully the show will focus more on Rip, the teacher and the hostages. The scene at the school, from the beginning, was so tense.

[Evagirl]

12 hours ago, Yakimaman said:

I barely made it to the first commercial.  Won't be back.  Just so, so bad. (and I  am a Goggins fan)

I'm a fan too!  I found it kind of hard to follow.  Also, a fictional show about a current war we're fighting just doesn't feel right.

I'm out.

[Stratego]

I was skeptical when I saw Weinstein was the executive producer--and it was warranted! I agree that the central characters need to "be real" (have flaws), but this show is The Shield rebooted. It's like criminals with badges--and none of the members can "cut it" as a husband or a father. 

[Raja]

Cliche is right. Team 6 is supposed to be the best of the best, yet new guy seems to be going through basic training not that he was a veteran SEAL chosen for the team. I guess because it is on the History channel we get to see actors dry humping simulated sex and throw out a "shit" here and there. But head to head I would re-watch an episode of The Unit.

[green]

No way would I watch a show right after Vikings.  That show can't be touched.  So I happened to catch this pilot episode on Thursday night repeat.  I have never seen such a silly, cliched military drama.  In this day and age it doesn't wash.  Not worth watching for me.

[MaggieG]

On ‎1‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 2:05 AM, CrazyDog said:

I'm in. I don't care about the domestic drama, (though the guy who wanted out is a little more interesting) but Goggins is great. Hopefully the show will focus more on Rip, the teacher and the hostages. The scene at the school, from the beginning, was so tense.

I liked the guy that wanted out (Ricky?). And I agree about them focusing on Rip and the mission on getting him out. That could make this interesting. Overall I enjoyed it.

[piequinn35]

I forgot that the pilot was on Wednesday, good thing they had a replay yesterday!

The new guy was in The Purge. :)

[SharonH58]

I enjoyed it.  Hope Rip finds out the guy he killed was with his brother, so they were bad.  I wanted them to ask him what are you doing here if you are an American?  If they did I missed it.  Could also due without some of the home drama.  Thanks wife for being supportive of me going to help save friend of mine. 

[Stratego]

As a gripe, (or two) Rip would have been disciplined--even if the facts were altered--no one would want him in command of a team. The same effect for this story's purpose could have been accomplished by Rip kicking the stuffing out of of one (or both) of them. The first guy (the villain we learn later) would have been sufficiently vengeful toward Rip anyway.

[Drogo]

I found the flawed SEALs refreshingly realistic.  I'm in on this one.

[Drogo]

On 1/22/2017 at 0:45 PM, Stratego said:

As a gripe, (or two) Rip would have been disciplined--even if the facts were altered--no one would want him in command of a team. 

100.  A real Rip would be in the brig or federal prison for executing a noncombatant in full surrender, so we can assume the facts were altered plenty, or TV magic wants us to believe you'd just get a dishonorable discharge for that. 

[preeya]

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 8:25 PM, ShortyMac said:

Watched for Walton Goggins. I liked it. 

I also watched because of Goggins, but I didn't like it.   I'll stick for another episode and make a yes/no decision.

Edited January 25, 2017 by preeya

[Drogo]

I find the show very realistic with the exception of Calder all but denying his daughter's existence and blaming USN.  Not looking forward to his bug out about not being able to care about anyone because he's "a warrior."  Come on, show.

Scary watching The Silent Brother recruit lonely American teens to their cause.  Buying lives and destruction for the price of a new family, an Alex Morgan jersey and a Nikon DSLR.  Catching fish in a barrel, unfortunately. 

And the moral of the story, Moneybags:  When BH says "Do it" and the SEAL says "Don't do it" -- don't fucking do it. 

[Drogo]

The truth about Rip's departure from SEAL Team Six is revealed; in Nigeria, Rip makes a move to escape.

[MaggieG]

I liked a little more insight into the families. Don't care too much for Calder and his daughter drama, but I thought the little porn interlude with Bear and his wife was kinda funny. Love Barry Sloane.

[Stratego]

5 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I liked a little more insight into the families. Don't care too much for Calder and his daughter drama, but I thought the little porn interlude with Bear and his wife was kinda funny. Love Barry Sloane.

It seems that if "the personal lives" were important to give depth to the characters that there would be one or two of the team that were actively (and successfully) involved with the families--not all SEALS are dysfunctional in family relationships.

[SharonH58]

I did like Calder's cooking attire!  ;)

[paigow]

Boyd & Raylan as rogue SEALs in Harlan County, Nigeria.....that would be a show worth watching....

[BonnieD]

i was really confused by the time/distance of it all. They were home in ...? California??? Then in Nigeria. then back home again. That's a Looooong distance to travel if they are in the middle of a mission and intend to keep pressing on until they find their friend. Would they really fly across the world just to give us those scenes of them back at home (and why do they live so near each other?). Or did I not watch closely enough and the second scenes with the families were flashbacks.

[Drogo]

22 minutes ago, BonnieD said:

i was really confused by the time/distance of it all. They were home in ...? California??? Then in Nigeria. then back home again. That's a Looooong distance to travel if they are in the middle of a mission and intend to keep pressing on until they find their friend. Would they really fly across the world just to give us those scenes of them back at home (and why do they live so near each other?). Or did I not watch closely enough and the second scenes with the families were flashbacks.

They're all based out of NAS Oceana, right near Virginia Beach.  They don't show them doing their actual job, only missions, so it's easy to forget they're stationed at a military base. 

The team is in counterterrorism extraction, so they need to hand the target off to Intel (stateside) for interrogation. Six is only deployed for short periods; they are in and out because once their presence is known they're screwed, no one's coming in behind them. 

*FWIW, if this were a real Team, there's no way Culder could be behind on his child support. His government wages would be quickly garnished once the ruling hit.  There are also credit requirements and if you're debt-ridden you can get punished and/or discharged through the UCMJ.

[BonnieD]

Thank you! that explains a lot. I get it now

[Artsda]

I think Culder being scared of  having his daughter around was shown really well. He seemed freaked out by her presence and just having that connection at all. You could see his issues with others that he likes to have no strings connections in life. 

[paigow]

2 hours ago, Drogo said:

 if you're debt-ridden you can get punished and/or discharged through the UCMJ.

If JAG gets rebooted, this would be the 2 hour "shocking" debut episode.....

[piequinn35]

I like that the villain Armin is talking to someone in a video game. 

[Febgirl]

All I can say is that Walton Goggins did Harvey Weinstein  and this show.a huge favor by stepping in when Joe Mangianello took ill.   Between the writing and the wooden acting by a good number of the cast, I was cringing watching this episode.

The man is magic. 

[Stratego]

12 minutes ago, Febgirl said:

All I can say is that Walton Goggins did Harvey Weinstein  and this show.a huge favor by stepping in when Joe Mangianello took ill.   Between the writing and the wooden acting by a good number of the cast, I was cringing watching this episode.

The man is magic. 

This episode was one cliche` after another. The gang drinking together, the wives' get-together, the underwater training, etc. Even the "combat" scenes--all so phony. Goggins "saved" this episode is true--but as much by his fame as by his actual acting.

I'm convinced this mess is not renewed; it might not even broadcast all of it's episodes.

[Febgirl]

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 'm convinced this mess is not renewed; it might not even broadcast all of it's episodes.

  I wish that the writers would have focused on more shades to the wives than " Nags" .  The world's oldest cliche, and these ladies can't act to save their lives, so maybe that's all they could do?

 

I think the rest of the cast are trolling social media hard for  fans and renewal-- Completely unrelated-- does anyone else find the sound mixing on the show horrible? I had to watch with closed captioning last night.

[piequinn35]

The escape was for nothing, ugh!

[Stratego]

2 hours ago, piequinn35 said:

The escape was for nothing, ugh!

It showed Rip's redemption.

[Drogo]

The SEAL Team and Michael race to get to Rip first.

[MaggieG]

I thought the whole "let's screw by the bridge" thing with Rip and his wife was a little odd. Wouldn't you want to go home after returning from a mission?

I like Amigo (I cannot remember his name right now). He seems to be the most levelheaded and I like the fact that everyone seems to be afraid of his wife lol

[piequinn35]

Of course they were late, as soon as I saw the vehicle leaving, I knew that RIP was in there.

Is Alex daughter living in his house now? Bear's comment about him being a Seal but his sperm can't swim and doctors cutting his balls was funny.

We don't know yet how his baby died? or did I miss that.

[Stratego]

2 hours ago, piequinn35 said:

Of course they were late, as soon as I saw the vehicle leaving, I knew that RIP was in there.

Is Alex daughter living in his house now? Bear's comment about him being a Seal but his sperm can't swim and doctors cutting his balls was funny.

We don't know yet how his baby died? or did I miss that.

"Late to the party"? Are we supposed to believe they couldn't hear all of the shooting that took-out the BH crew?

Plus, it's a good thing they were late or else they would have had to face both the BH and the AQAP (whoever) that were trucked in.

No, we don't know how she died, but the daughter didn't live very long, the headstone was marked born in December and died in April. 

[piequinn35]

And also when they are in combat gear, I don't know who is who, I just look at the number on their sleeve, FD1 is Bear as the team leader, 2 is Alex, 3 is Ricky, 4 is Chase, 5 is the one who got shot, what is his name?

[Snowprince]

Seen all four now and I think I'm done. The Unit did it much better.

[MaggieG]

19 hours ago, piequinn35 said:

Of course they were late, as soon as I saw the vehicle leaving, I knew that RIP was in there.

Is Alex daughter living in his house now? Bear's comment about him being a Seal but his sperm can't swim and doctors cutting his balls was funny.

We don't know yet how his baby died? or did I miss that.

That was funny, as was his "my balls are too hot" comment.

[Drogo]

The team deals with a loss, while Rip faces with his new captor.

[Artsda]

I enjoyed the funeral scenes, how all of them dealt with it together.

I figured Caulder would show up on the video. The daughter probably is the only one shocked.

[piequinn35]

Loved it when Rip said "I'm sorry that I didn't kill all of you sons of bitches". :))

[Stratego]

What a hatchet job on the team!  Of course each character needs some kind of a flaw for reality purposes, but this is ridiculous. The only team member who hasn't displayed a serious character flaw is the guppy--probably because he is a Harvard graduate and is black.  

[Drogo]

Caulder sleeping with his friend's wife. .. the logistics of that are all off.  Buck put the nanny-cam in to see what his wife was up to while he was away ("I love you but I don't know if I can trust you.")   Of course when Buck's away, Caulder's also away.   There are more effective ways to show us that Caulder's a horndog, and the show was accomplishing that without this extremely unrealistic twist. 

I think the idea is that they only slept together as a coping mechanism after Buck had been killed.  She did seem sad(?) in the video and I believe she said something like "Just hold me."  Even then, very unrealistic that Caulder would go there.

 

Bear's heart balloon delivery and Rip's humanity were the highlight of the episode for me. 

[MaggieG]

57 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Caulder sleeping with his friend's wife. .. the logistics of that are all off.  Buck put the nanny-cam in to see what his wife was up to while he was away ("I love you but I don't know if I can trust you.")   Of course when Buck's away, Caulder's also away.   There are more effective ways to show us that Caulder's a horndog, and the show was accomplishing that without this extremely unrealistic twist. 

I think the idea is that they only slept together as a coping mechanism after Buck had been killed.  She did seem sad(?) in the video and I believe she said something like "Just hold me."  Even then, very unrealistic that Caulder would go there.

 

Bear's heart balloon delivery and Rip's humanity were the highlight of the episode for me. 

That was so adorable. I also enjoyed them in the golf carts with Buck's dad and then trying to shoot off the cannon. Although, it probably wasn't a good idea to do that while intoxicated LOL