BkWurm1 January 11, 2017 Share January 11, 2017 (edited) Season Seven. A mixed season with some absolutely timeless episodes and some odd turns, but it gave me back Daniel and thus gave me back the entire show. Edited January 11, 2017 by BkWurm1 1 Link to comment
theredhead77 January 12, 2017 Share January 12, 2017 I love the title. My media viewing has a severe case of SQUIRREL so I can't promise I will fully participate. And it seems SG-1 disappeared from the internetz (or at least disappeared from Prime and Netflix). Can anyone confirm if it's on Hulu Plus? 1 Link to comment
DittyDotDot January 12, 2017 Share January 12, 2017 33 minutes ago, theredhead77 said: I love the title. My media viewing has a severe case of SQUIRREL so I can't promise I will fully participate. And it seems SG-1 disappeared from the internetz (or at least disappeared from Prime and Netflix). Can anyone confirm if it's on Hulu Plus? It is on Hulu, that's how I've been watching it. Link to comment
marina to January 12, 2017 Share January 12, 2017 I still prefer the return of Daniel, hotter than ever as the thread title but will bow to the majority. Link to comment
marina to January 13, 2017 Share January 13, 2017 Fallen: Naked Daniel! Noticed this time around Shanks got the soft focus (ie romantic) treatment early on. The young guy who found them looked really familiar but when I looked him up on imdb he's one of the Vancouver actors who does everything. This has the moment that broke the heart of Sam/Dan shippers. He asks if they were involved and she denies. Also the moment that launched 50 fanfics - Janet has Daniel's glasses. Squee moment for us Dan/Jan shippers. It must have killed Jack that it was Sam who convinced Daniel to come back but Jack? She met him where he was. That's always the best approach. This is my favourite season and part of it was the focus on the Daniel/Teal'c relationship. Love the moment they have here. Notice Shanks' facial expressions as he goes from excitement from remembering Sha're to realizing she's dead and Judge's beautiful supportive silence as he does. Wackiest plan ever? Love that whole bit between Jack and Sam. Yu's cute first prime! Loved seeing Hammond off-world (is this the only time?) and that we see other SG teams working alongside SG1. Jack's joy of getting to fly again is always wonderful to see. Pretty sure Shanks came back because they promised him he'd get to reset the character. Daniel is more snarkier and mature here. Another reason this is my favourite season. You also see how Jack has rubbed off on Jonas with him being snarky with Anubus. It's such a shame that the best chemistry he has with any of the cast is the guy he replaced. This is one of the better episodes of the season. Like most of SG1's two-parters, it's the stronger episodes. Link to comment
BkWurm1 January 13, 2017 Author Share January 13, 2017 5 hours ago, marina to said: I still prefer the return of Daniel, hotter than ever as the thread title but will bow to the majority. Here's a peace offering. 2 hours ago, marina to said: Pretty sure Shanks came back because they promised him he'd get to reset the character. Daniel is more snarkier and mature here. Another reason this is my favourite season. I really enjoyed the rather IMO natural transformation of Daniel's character that grew and became both more snarky and picked up on some military skills. Who he ends the show as is a big departure from where he started and yet they remained true to his journey and what the character experienced. But I may be biased since Daniel has always been my favorite. 1 Link to comment
BkWurm1 January 13, 2017 Author Share January 13, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 3:24 PM, marina to said: How about starting a thread. Season 7 - Daniel returns and is hotter than ever? Just so you know, I didn't mean to ignore your title. I just misunderstood. I thought you were making a request for a thread and then reminding us how how great season 7 was because of the hot Daniel, to which I agreed instantly and went about trying to think up a thread name, not even realizing you'd made a suggestion. Oops. Link to comment
DittyDotDot February 7, 2017 Share February 7, 2017 (edited) ::meep:: Dr. Frasier is dead. How is it I had totally forgotten she died, but within a few seconds of starting Heroes, and hearing Saul Rubinek's voice, I immediately choked up? S7 is really hitting the right notes for me right now. There's some very fine little character dramas here; some I don't think I've ever seen before. I'll do my usual back up and run down on the standouts since I'm here: Fallen and Homecoming: Slow start to the season--sometimes these episodes that are so over-packed with stuff to get done, I feel like nothing really happens in the end--but ever so nice to get Daniel back! Fragile Balance: Very humorous and the kid they cast did a great job. Seemed a little out of place in the season, though, maybe too soon? But still very amusing episode. Orpheus: I really liked this episode this time around. I mean, I don't remember disliking it, but something about it really struck a cord with me this go-round. funny how that can work, eh? Oh, and I was very giddy to see Christopher Heyderdahl show up on SG-1 too. I didn't remember that! Lifeboat: I'm quite certain I have never seen this episode previously. Wow, nice, subtle work by Michael Shanks here. Enemy Mine: I'm not as keen on the Unas as the show obviously was. They were an interesting concept that seems to have went horribly cheesy, IMO. But I'm quite certain I've never seen this episode before and was quite surprised to see Major Lorne outside of the Pegasus Galaxy! Space Race: This episode made so much more sense to me this time around now that I've seen S6's episode Forsaken. I remember previously spending the whole episode trying to figure out when we'd met these aliens before and why were they so chummy with the team. Fun although totally extraneous episode. Nice to see Carter cut loose a bit. Avenger 2.0: Okay, I like Dr. Felger. He and Dr. Lee are some of my favorite minor characters. I really love O'Neill's sourpuss every time Felger is around. Grace: another episode I'm quite certain I've never seen before. I really loved it. Nice character piece for Sam and nice work from Amanda Tapping. Actually, nice work from everyone. Sam's hallucination versions of Jack, Teal'c and Daniel were so perfectly off. And, that moment when Teal'c's hand comes out and touches Sam...creeeepy good! As of now, I'd say this episode is best of season, IMO. Chimera: So, it's officially a DeLuise family affair now? That's awesome. ;) Death Knell: And the alliance starts to fall apart? It was inevitable given the parties involved, but IMO the Tok'ra are such dumbasses sometimes. They like to point out how they've been fighting the Goul'd for thousands of years, but apparently never made any headway. Now that they are making progress, they just walk away...are we sure they really want to bring down the Goul'd? ;) Heroes was a mixed bag for me. I think they handled Janet's death well--although I was wondering where Cassandra was during the memorial service--but overall, I felt like it was a little too preachy. I did love seeing Adam Baldwin's SG team; they all had a great rapport with each other and I liked their banter and the betting pool ritual. Nicely written one-off characters there. So, now I'm off to watch the next one... . Edited February 7, 2017 by DittyDotDot 2 Link to comment
kassygreene February 7, 2017 Share February 7, 2017 If I'm remembering correctly, Heroes parts 1 & 2 became a 2-parter somewhat late in the shooting season, so the Adam Baldwin SG team in the field, before the ambush/trap, was added to fill the episodes out at least a couple of months after the rest of the episode. Dixon's recital of the joys of parenthood (I believe he had four kids) was perfect. Season 7 was when the production reached the point that they could shoot two or three episodes at once, and break up the shoots over a couple of weeks - the actors & crew knew the characters and show that well. As an example, Carter's infirmary scenes at the end of Grace & Death Knell were shot on the same day, one in the morning, the other after lunch. 2 Link to comment
DittyDotDot February 7, 2017 Share February 7, 2017 12 hours ago, kassygreene said: If I'm remembering correctly, Heroes parts 1 & 2 became a 2-parter somewhat late in the shooting season, so the Adam Baldwin SG team in the field, before the ambush/trap, was added to fill the episodes out at least a couple of months after the rest of the episode. Dixon's recital of the joys of parenthood (I believe he had four kids) was perfect. Fascinating, kassygreene. I was thinking it might've been a more powerful episode if it had been condensed to one, but if the best stuff was added as "filler", then maybe not? 2 Link to comment
marina to February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Wow @DittyDotDot, I haven't even gotten to Homecoming yet. Season 7 is my fave. Love your summary. Link to comment
blueray February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I always loved Adam Baldwin's story about the children. But I always have seen him as Casey (from Chuck), which makes even funnier. 1 Link to comment
BkWurm1 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 46 minutes ago, blueray said: I always loved Adam Baldwin's story about the children. But I always have seen him as Casey (from Chuck), which makes even funnier. I have to juggle both Casey and Jane from Firefly in my head, lol. 1 Link to comment
DittyDotDot February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 9 hours ago, blueray said: I always loved Adam Baldwin's story about the children. But I always have seen him as Casey (from Chuck), which makes even funnier. 8 hours ago, BkWurm1 said: I have to juggle both Casey and Jane from Firefly in my head, lol. Although I do think my favorite Adam Baldwin character is probably Jayne Cobb, the first thing that jumps into my head whenever I see him is, "Oh look, it's that asshole Rohrer." (The X-Files) First impressions and all that, I guess? 1 Link to comment
LadyAmalthea September 10, 2017 Share September 10, 2017 So onto season 7 - hit and miss for me, but generally an improvement on season 6. Fallen/Homecoming: Some really nice scenes re-introducing Daniel, his moments with Jack, Sam and Teal'c all very different, but each quite nicely written and well played. My heart always breaks when Daniel remembers Sha're and excitedly finds Teal'c only to then realise that she's dead - quite a lot conveyed by both MS and CJ in just a few looks. I do wish they'd staggered out the recovery of Daniel's memories over half a season, rather than the wham bam it is, and we're straight into stuff with Anubis who continues to be a bland villain, and wrapping up Jonas' storyline (i.e. swiftly showing him the door.) Fragile Balance: A great episode, Michael Welch does a great Jack and it's a lot of fun. There are a few odd moments, like Daniel and his newly recovered memory being able to rattle off a bunch of past events ("well there was the time he got really old, the time he turned into a caveman, the time we all swapped bodies") but I suppose we can handwave that by Daniel reading through all the mission reports trying to get a handle on things. Then there's the idea that Sam completely loses control of the F-302 briefing, rather than commanding their respect, and the end where they release clone O'Neill out into the wild. Orpheus: Teal'c character development! Nice to see, although I never really understood the tretonin being the means to free the Jaffa from dependence on the goa'uld - isn't it made from ground baby goa'uld that they still need to source from somewhere? Unless the Tok'ra found a way to synthesise it and I missed a line of dialogue somewhere. Revisions: A nice, old-school exploring episode so rare in the latter seasons. Lifeboat: Another good episode, mostly an excuse for MS to stretch his acting muscles but also a great one for Janet and Jack Enemy Mine: The final part of the "Unas Trilogy" that is The First Ones/Beast of Burden/Enemy Mine - all stellar episodes and a fitting conclusion to our friend Chaka despite the change in actor. One of the best of the season. Space Race: A bit goofy, but generally amusing ("tell him Mr Man Who Has the Stargate is here") and it's nice to see a Sam-centric without a single love interest, and where we get to see a different side of her personality. Avenger 2.0: Ugh. IMO, the worst episode of Stargate ever produced. Yes, worse than Emancipation, which as bad as it was, never contained a fantasy sequence with Sam and another woman in a catfight while men watched. Felger was bad enough the first time around, why we had to waste screentime on this joke of a character I'll never understand. 3 Link to comment
BigBeagle September 12, 2017 Share September 12, 2017 I don't know if I'd rank anything lower than "Emancipation," but you make a good argument, LadyAmalthea. Anything with Felgar (every time I type that name, I have to resist the urge to precede it with another word that starts with F) is pretty much assured of being horrible. 2 Link to comment
BkWurm1 September 14, 2017 Author Share September 14, 2017 Quote Orpheus: Teal'c character development! Nice to see, although I never really understood the tretonin being the means to free the Jaffa from dependence on the goa'uld - isn't it made from ground baby goa'uld that they still need to source from somewhere? Unless the Tok'ra found a way to synthesise it and I missed a line of dialogue somewhere. Yes, the SGC did manage to synthesize it based on the original formula. I think the synthetic nature was why it didn't work for every Jaffa that tried it. 1 Link to comment
LadyAmalthea September 15, 2017 Share September 15, 2017 Birthright: I generally enjoy Christopher Judge written episodes, and he does a pretty good job with a concept that could have gone very bad very quickly. I can take or leave the romance aspect, especially when Teal'c speaks of this great love he had for his wife...even though she lived on another planet for years and every time we saw them together they fought.... But I give kudos for multiple female supporting roles which distinguishable characters which sadly was pretty rare on SG1 - Mala in particular was a compelling character I was sad to see die. Evolution: I remembered really liking this two-parter previously, but I on this rewatch wasn't as enamored with it (arm porn notwithstanding) - although I always enjoy Enrico Colantoni and liked his dynamic with Jack. I can never take the supersoldiers seriously with those ridiculous codpieces, but Jacob is always welcome. One thing I really love about this show though is that none of the characters remain static - for example see Sam in season 1 scandalised by Daniel massacring baby goa'uld, whereas now after all she's been through she's quite happy to strap some C4 to a pregoo goa'uld queen. Grace: AT is a compelling actress and this episode is a good showcase for Sam, I just wish there had been some deeper character exploration. If this had been the end of the Sam and Jack stuff, with Sam realising that perhaps her feelings for Jack were just a crutch or excuse it perhaps would have been more of a turning point, but knowing that they keep beating that drum and she would regress back to this point...eh. Fallout: Ah, Jonas, your swansong - shame about the hairstyle! I kind of enjoy the bickering Langarans if only for Jack's subsequent smackdown. Chimera: I never cared for the Sarah angst (it seemed rather lazy) although Osiris was a more interesting villain than Anubis, so it was nice to wrap up that story. But of course, this is the episode famous for kicking off the Pete saga, and Pete....oh boy, was it bad. I know I've joked before about Sam attracting the creeps, but Pete was supposed to be a normal guy, a viable choice for Sam and they just...messed it up. It's a shame, because David Deluise is a cutie and they had nice chemistry but Pete was completely terrible and I have no idea how this episode went through writers, producers, directors executives and no one had a problem with this dude completely overreacting to Sam keeping top secret stuff to herself when revealing it would be treason, stalking her, almost ruining the operation to capture Osiris, and then getting rewarded with security clearance! It's baffling, and I can only assume it's male writers thinking about things from Pete's pov ("Of course he would want to know, I would want to know!") rather than from Sam's. I don't mind that they devoted time to Sam getting a personal life, but this was the best they could come up with? Death Knell: The end of the Tau'ri-Tok'ra-Jaffa alliance, which was a long time coming. While the Tok'ra had a point that they have lost many since aligning with Earth since every time we see an undercover Tok'ra they end up dead, I was waiting for someone to point out that they likely would have been wiped out anyway since SG-1 uncovered a spy in their ranks the first time they met Link to comment
DittyDotDot September 15, 2017 Share September 15, 2017 3 hours ago, LadyAmalthea said: Death Knell: The end of the Tau'ri-Tok'ra-Jaffa alliance, which was a long time coming. While the Tok'ra had a point that they have lost many since aligning with Earth since every time we see an undercover Tok'ra they end up dead, I was waiting for someone to point out that they likely would have been wiped out anyway since SG-1 uncovered a spy in their ranks the first time they met The thing that always got me about the Tok'ra was, it seemed to me they actually didn't want to bring down the system lords as much as they wanted to say they wanted to bring down the system lords. As though they wouldn't know who they were anymore if they didn't have the Goul'd to fight against. 1 Link to comment
supposebly September 16, 2017 Share September 16, 2017 13 hours ago, DittyDotDot said: As though they wouldn't know who they were anymore if they didn't have the Goul'd to fight against. I agree. Their whole culture was based on the fight against the Goul'd. The somewhat temporary accommodations, the culture around hosts, no new blendings. I mean, if they were consequent, if they win, they should stop blending altogether, no? They would be extinct in their current shape. I find them rather tragic, actually. Spoiler I found it rather interesting that the topic of maybe creating more Tok'ra on that planet where they found their queen never once came up. 1 Link to comment
LadyAmalthea September 16, 2017 Share September 16, 2017 I don't think they would stop blending, just continue the practice of only taking willing hosts, but I agree they identified themselves by their opposition to the goa'uld and after fighting them for so long it would be quite an adjustment once the war is won. I do think there was a fair amount of envy over the fact that the Tau'ri were able to take out so many big players in such a short amount of time - they killed big bad Ra in a few days after the Tok'ra had been fighting him unsuccessfully for thousands of years. The problem with Egeria was that by the time they discovered who she was, it was too late and she was dying. Heroes: A damn emotional episode *sniff* Poor Janet. I would have liked to have seen more of the film footage, a view of the SGC and our faves from an outside perspective. Daniel's grief is moving, but they saddle Sam with that terrible "she's a tough kid" line when I would have liked to actually see Cassie and Sam in a scene together. No matter how tough a kid she is, Cassie's an orphan twice over and we really needed to see the person who Janet's death affects the most. Resurrection: Nice direction by AT and writing by MS, and the return of Agent Barrett who I rather enjoy. He asks Sam out, like a normal person! There's a nice guest performance in Anna, although I find the episode ends rather abruptly. Inauguration: While I find clip shows tedious, the show always does a pretty good job on the framing story. Lost City: Mostly setup for Atlantis, but a nice revisit to The Fifth Race, and team goodness with the hangout at Jack's place. Link to comment
marina to September 16, 2017 Share September 16, 2017 (edited) Chimera - AKA sexiest Daniel ever. I ff through Pete. Heroes - my Dan/Jan heart broke forever. Glad that Daniel got his grief moment but I agree, Sam was really shafted. All her stuff was around Jack instead of her losing her best friend. Not seeing Cassie was a really bad decision for such a momentous episode. Resurrection - I really enjoyed this episode, although I know it's not a fave around here. You can tell it's a first-time director though. Oy, the camera movements! Edited September 16, 2017 by marina to Link to comment
blueray September 16, 2017 Share September 16, 2017 (edited) I agree with those who said that Cassie should have been in Heroes. That is my biggest complaint about that episode. They should have shown her at the funeral (even if they couldn't get that actress back, find a look alike. Then either her (or the lookalike) have a scene with Sam. Who now is the closest she has to "family" unless Janet had family. If I did the math right she's about 18 at this point, but she still really needs a parent figure. Edited September 16, 2017 by blueray Link to comment
DittyDotDot September 16, 2017 Share September 16, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, supposebly said: I agree. Their whole culture was based on the fight against the Goul'd. The somewhat temporary accommodations, the culture around hosts, no new blendings. I mean, if they were consequent, if they win, they should stop blending altogether, no? They would be extinct in their current shape. I find them rather tragic, actually. Reveal hidden contents I found it rather interesting that the topic of maybe creating more Tok'ra on that planet where they found their queen never once came up. Exactly, although, I think the blending would continue as long as it was consensual because they can't really exist without a host. I mean, they can, but their existence is very limited without a willing host. But yeah, I question how much they truly wanted to bring down the system lords. They certainly weren't willing to risk anything of themselves to do it and they certainly didn't seem to be too keen on the Tau'ri making headway at it. On 9/15/2017 at 4:34 AM, LadyAmalthea said: Chimera: I never cared for the Sarah angst (it seemed rather lazy) although Osiris was a more interesting villain than Anubis, so it was nice to wrap up that story. But of course, this is the episode famous for kicking off the Pete saga, and Pete....oh boy, was it bad. I know I've joked before about Sam attracting the creeps, but Pete was supposed to be a normal guy, a viable choice for Sam and they just...messed it up. It's a shame, because David Deluise is a cutie and they had nice chemistry but Pete was completely terrible and I have no idea how this episode went through writers, producers, directors executives and no one had a problem with this dude completely overreacting to Sam keeping top secret stuff to herself when revealing it would be treason, stalking her, almost ruining the operation to capture Osiris, and then getting rewarded with security clearance! It's baffling, and I can only assume it's male writers thinking about things from Pete's pov ("Of course he would want to know, I would want to know!") rather than from Sam's. I don't mind that they devoted time to Sam getting a personal life, but this was the best they could come up with? Oh boy did they make a mess of Pete! And after all that, the relationship really went nowhere. It's such a shame because giving these characters people outside the SGC to interact with had so much untapped potential, IMO. 10 minutes ago, blueray said: I agree with those who said that Cassie should have been in Heroes. That is my biggest complaint about that episode. They should have shown her at the funeral (even if they couldn't get that actress back, find a look alike. Then either her (or the lookalike) have a scene with Sam. Who now is the closest she has to "family" unless Janet had family. If I didn't the math right she's about 18 at this point, but she still really needs a parent figure. Yeah, I thought it was weird they didn't find another actress here. I mean, it's not like she was a regular character, not to mention it would've made sense that Cassie grew up and changed some, that I imagine no one would've probably noticed if they'd gotten the right actress. It really did feel like a big gaping hole in this episode. Edited September 16, 2017 by DittyDotDot 1 Link to comment
LadyAmalthea September 17, 2017 Share September 17, 2017 Well they'd already replaced Cassie once, the actress in Rite of Passage was actually the girl from Bane, because the original Cassie wasn't available. So if neither of those two actresses were free for Heroes they could have easily recast again. Link to comment
Idiotboy December 21, 2017 Share December 21, 2017 Quote Then either her (or the lookalike) have a scene with Sam. Who now is the closest she has to "family" unless Janet had family. To further complicate matters, in S9 Sam is off mothering Cassie, who is having college issues ... so apparently Sam and Janet had joint custody, (Sam/Janet shippers, rejoice!) Can you tell I know waaaaay too much about Sam? 1 Link to comment
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