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20 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

I must be the odd person out but I think it is sweet. Yes the artist isn't the best but she/ he did it to bring comfort to the family and it seems to have done that.

Nope, you're not the only one. I don't get comfort from the kinds of things they get comfort from, but if I did, I'd be very happy having that picture. Including with the fact that it depicts Joy and Austin as they are in their everyday selves.

I actually think the artist does quite a good job. The lack of noses is a cartoon kind of style, which fits with the simplicity of her work....and it also makes it much easier to do a kind of simple portrait without falsifying anything or unduly prettying somebody up or inadvertently making them homelier than they are. Noses are a very distinctive feature that can force you into doing actual portraiture -- which doesn't fit the style and most likely would mean she'd have to charge too much -- and if a nose goes wrong it can way too easily turn an outline-y kind of cartoon style into pure caricature, so you'd have to throw too many out and start over, I'd imagine. She's got a form of art there with which she can make personalized pictures for a very reasonable price, I think. It's a good little business for the artist, I'll bet. And a very nice piece to contemplate for people whose beliefs it fits, seems to me. 

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1 hour ago, Zella said:

If I'm not mistaken on the timing, that means they adopted blanket training around the time JB's political career started. Jed and Jer were born in December 1998 and JB was a rep from 1999 to 2002. That . . . doesn't strike me as a coincidence. People I know who met them when JB was campaigning in 2002 often remarked on how well-behaved the kids seemed at events. Would not surprise me at all if one of the reasons they adopted it was to ensure the children seemed as obedient as possible as a part of the campaign/political brand. 😞

She does mention it being during JB’s time in the legislature. It’s at the bottom of the second to last page. I agree that it is all about the image with them and that was probably their motivation. 
 

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58 minutes ago, EVS said:

She does mention it being during JB’s time in the legislature. It’s at the bottom of the second to last page. I agree that it is all about the image with them and that was probably their motivation. 
 

Ah okay! Thank you! 

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3 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

The missing noses might be a clue.  Which brings to question ... where are the missing nostrils?

They've all migrated to Austin's face.

Forget the prayer closet, I'm just going straight to hell.

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I find it interesting that joy doesn’t name the artist!  Just keeps saying “a friend “ did it. 

I like how jesus’s Complexion changes depending on which family he’s with!

carlin having her baby must be quite painful for joy, as happy as she must be for her. Must bring up lots of memories. 

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2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

By all appearances, Joy and Austin have grieved in a healthy way and moved on. I'm sure losing Annabelle still hurts but it doesn't seem to be consuming their lives the way Asa did does with Lauren. 

Fixed it for you.

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1 hour ago, Westiepeach said:

Fixed it for you.

Actually I think Lauren has really scaled back her obsession with Asa since Bella was born. 

I'm sure Joy and Austin are thinking about their loss more than they tell us. It helps that they have Gideon to focus on. 

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On 2/1/2020 at 5:50 PM, crazycatlady58 said:

I must be the odd person out but I think it is sweet. Yes the artist isn't the best but she/ he did it to bring comfort to the family and it seems to have done that.

I like it too. Its not overwrought, just nice a sweet. 

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seems all speculation the pic is on their instagram Jan 20 and captioned

"you are my happy place"  - nothing about pregnancy.

apparently "fans" think the pic is cropped and she is waiting to announce

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That's from a fanpage. Not from Joy. Just realized other people posted that, but yeah, it just seems like idle fan speculation and no real confirmation of anything. 

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3 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Can someone open the link in the fan page bio? I can't seem to.

Here it is: ( I think it’s in very poor taste)
 

https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2020/02/joy-anna-duggar-heres-why-fans-are-convinced-shes-pregnant/?utm_source=Relic&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=PregnantRelic4

Minus pictures for anyone who can’t open It:

 

 

Joy-Anna Duggar: Here's Why Fans Are Convinced She's Pregnant

by Tyler Johnson at February 3, 2020 1:50 pm.

As we reminded you many times over the course of the past 12 months, 2019 was the year of the Duggar baby boom.

Jim Bob and Michelle gained five new grandchildren last year, and we're sure they couldn't be happier about it.

But in 2020, it seems production at the Duggar baby factory has slowed considerably.

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Believe it or not, there are no pregnant Duggars at the moment.

At least not that we know of ...

The baby bump rumor mill never stops churning, and the folks who populate the Duggar-obsessed corners of Reddit have some theories about which Duggar daughter is next to deliver.

This time, it's Joy-Anna Duggar's turn to have her midsection scrutinized.

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Fans on the Duggar subreddit are convinced that Joy is expecting.

Not only that, they believe she has a very specific reason for keeping her pregnancy under wraps.

You'd have to go all the way back to the day after Christmas to find a photo in which Joy's entire body can be seen, and for many of her followers, that's reason enough to believe she's expecting.

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As for why she would keep the pregnancy to herself ... well, that photo right there, posted by Joy on February 1 might provide some indication.

"I’ve always said 'My little girl is in the arms of Jesus', but this visual always makes me tear up!" Joy captioned the pic.

"Such a good reminder. Thankful for this sweet gift!"

Yes, Joy-Anna suffered a miscarriage in July of last year when she was around the 5-month mark of her pregnancy.

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Now, fans believe she's waiting to announce her third pregnancy until she's well past that point.

“I think Joy is pregnant, but won’t announce until she’s past the point when Annabelle died,” one user wrote Reddit.

Another echoed that sentiment and speculated that Joy won't announce “until she’s twenty weeks.”

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Some pointed to the cropping on the photo below -- posted by Joy on January 20 -- as evidence that the 22-year-old is concealing a bump.

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"You are my happy place!" the pic is captioned.

Of course, since Joy and Austin have a joint account, it's a little unclear who is talking to whom.

Others are less convinced that Joy and Austin are pregnant, and several fans suggested that the couple is “probably actively trying."

Whatever the case, don't be surprised to hear a big announcement from the Forsyths in the very near future.

 

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On 2/1/2020 at 6:09 PM, absnow54 said:

These sketches are very kind, and I hope they bring the recipients comfort, but in both drawings it looks like Jesus is Joy’s and Vanessa’s secret side piece. 

Omg. Lol. But a reminder of why Joy is generally cool: she and Austin aren’t dolled up at all in that painting. Just wearing their regular gear, flip flops and all. 

I could be wrong but for whatever reason I think Annabelle’s death made Joy slow down with the baby making. She seems to be enjoying being a mom to Gideon. She’s 22. It’s not like her ovaries are drying up.

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10 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

Omg. Lol. But a reminder of why Joy is generally cool: she and Austin aren’t dolled up at all in that painting. Just wearing their regular gear, flip flops and all. 

I could be wrong but for whatever reason I think Annabelle’s death made Joy slow down with the baby making. She seems to be enjoying being a mom to Gideon. She’s 22. It’s not like her ovaries are drying up.

This. And wasn’t Joy one of the younger kids to get engaged/married?  Was she 19?  The others seemed to be slightly older when their baby factory started?

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13 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Whatever the case, don't be surprised to hear a big announcement from the Forsyths in the very near future.

Would anyone ever be surprised to hear that a married Duggar female was pregnant?  This is a pretty safe bet, the only surprising one would be Michelle.

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I think Joy is likely pregnant seeing that Austin is the most Fundy of the sons-in-law. I believe they'll churn out babies at a regular pace, as will Joe and Kendra, Josiah and Lauren, and Josh and Anna. Not sure about JD and Abbie.

I believe Jessa will churn out babies at a regular pace too. But only to try and keep Counting On alive.

Jessa probably has calendars for each couple and is going to try and control the next round of births. She'll do girls weekends so certain couples won't get pregnant at the same time. If Jessa manages to pull this off, the Duggars could be having babies every two or three months.

She better hurry though, Kendra is due to get pregnant any day now, so Jessa needs to work on Josiah and Lauren, to delay the birth of Colton Mateo.

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2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think Joy is likely pregnant seeing that Austin is the most Fundy of the sons-in-law. I believe they'll churn out babies at a regular pace

True about Austin being thoroughly fundie. But his very fundie parents only had two kids. Do we know why? Has Austin's sister been pumping out the babiez like a Duggar?

Austin, unlike a typical Duggarling, was raised in a family where everyone worked their butts off every day to run the family business (guest ranch). I think that Austin - also unlike a typical Duggarling - understands the value of a dollar and the cost of living. I seriously doubt that "Duggar time" and grifting freebies were part of his life until he married Joy. I wonder if the stank face he often displayed in his early days as a Duggar spouse, reflected his distaste for a lot of what he saw going on in the Duggar circus. 

I think it's likely that Austin has thought about the costs of rearing a large brood and may not be in a hot hurry to have a lot of kids. I also think he really cares for Joy, who's probably all into pumping out a big brood, so there's that. I'm sure he loves his son and was devastated when they lost the baby last year. I don't know how it will all play out but I just don't see "fundie" automatically equating to "wants to father a dozen plus" in Austin's case. 

Aaand - I'm often wrong. If Austin has made public statements about wanting a zillion kids, then obviously I'm wrong. Which wouldn't be a new thing. 🙃

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I don't know much about Austin's sister other than she's been married for 4 years and has two kids.

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If I'm not mistaken, Ma Forsyth was Pa Forsyth's second marriage. Maybe they came to the Fundieverse later in life, or she wasn't particularly fertile. 

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There is also the issue of being fundie does not always equal being quiverfull.  The two are frequently found in many groups, but they can occur separately.

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Or maybe it just isn't happening.  Just because she got pregnant easily the first two times doesn't mean it will continue that way.  If you are truly leaving it to God then you aren't preventing but you aren't actively trying to conceive either...

And yes, I know the Duggars would not understand this logic.  But maybe Austin does.

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Joy had a pretty difficult birth with Gideon and then lost Annabelle. So sometimes "as many children as God allows" falls way below 19. 

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Meagan Forsyth Ballinger is currently pregnant with #3 due in July. Her first kid turns 3 next month. Her 2nd daughter will be 2 in September. 

Austin's parents got married in their 30s. It's hard to say why they only have 2 kids. It could be biological. It also could be they went fundier as they got older. Jill Rod's parents weren't quiverfull, but taught their daughters to be quiverfull. 

7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think Joy is likely pregnant seeing that Austin is the most Fundy of the sons-in-law. I believe they'll churn out babies at a regular pace, as will Joe and Kendra, Josiah and Lauren, and Josh and Anna. Not sure about JD and Abbie.

I agree with you about Austin.  I think he's very fundie and I doubt they'll stop having kids no matter the consequences. 

It's too soon to say whether they've stopped/slowed the baby train. If they go another six months without an announcement, I'll take it back. 

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30 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

Or maybe it just isn't happening.  Just because she got pregnant easily the first two times doesn't mean it will continue that way.  If you are truly leaving it to God then you aren't preventing but you aren't actively trying to conceive either...

And yes, I know the Duggars would not understand this logic.  But maybe Austin does.

This is so true. Some of my family take this approach, and the most kids anyone has is six, and that was in 18 years of marriage. We are a fertile bunch, but not trying to conceive, just not preventing. 

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Among people I know, people who aren't trying to conceive, but aren't preventing get pregnant. 

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So far, IMO, I don't think the Duggar daughters are built very well to have children. Look at Jill's two disasters, Jessa's "BLEEDING" and Joy's difficult/emergency situation and then a very, very sad event. Jinger, who I believe had competent care and an early induction did well.

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Since Austin's sister is married to Bob Ballinger's son--and Bob Ballinger thinks having a large litter of children makes him impressive 🙄--I wouldn't doubt that there is an expectation from her in-laws/her husband that she will churn out lots of babies for Jesus. So, in much the same way that the Duggars expect something similar, I could see in-law pressure being more of a factor in the number of children both Forsyth siblings have than how they themselves were raised. Especially with both sets of in-laws being more "prestigious" in their community's eyes than the Forsyths.

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9 minutes ago, floridamom said:

So far, IMO, I don't think the Duggar daughters are built very well to have children. Look at Jill's two disasters, Jessa's "BLEEDING" and Joy's difficult/emergency situation and then a very, very sad event. Jinger, who I believe had competent care and an early induction did well.

 It’s no coincidence Jingle is the only one that had prenatal care, too.   That AMA a little while back mentioned that it is very common for women in their groups not to get any prenatal care at all since their lives are worth nothing. 

 Of course empress Michelle was the exception to the rule, as always. 

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11 minutes ago, floridamom said:

So far, IMO, I don't think the Duggar daughters are built very well to have children. Look at Jill's two disasters, Jessa's "BLEEDING" and Joy's difficult/emergency situation and then a very, very sad event. Jinger, who I believe had competent care and an early induction did well.

I would think it's more of not doing well with home births, particularly whoever is in charge of their labor and delivery.  Like you said Jinger got competent care and the other Duggar daughters had Jill and possibly some unnamed person.  And I completely agree with @JoanArc

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39 minutes ago, floridamom said:

So far, IMO, I don't think the Duggar daughters are built very well to have children. Look at Jill's two disasters, Jessa's "BLEEDING" and Joy's difficult/emergency situation and then a very, very sad event. Jinger, who I believe had competent care and an early induction did well.

As far as we know, however, none of them seem to have any trouble getting pregnant. Jill may be experiencing secondary infertility, but Derick has hinted he's not against taking precautions.  Same goes for Jinger, Jeremy has hinted limiting his family size. As for Jessa, she did have a longer period between Henry and Ivy, but that may have to do with having two kids under 2 and breast-feeding. Joy also seems to get pregnant easily; it's too soon since her loss to know if she's slowed down at all.

The Duggar daughters have had great difficulty with labor and delivery. I also have no idea what kind of care Joy gets. From this point, she should get high care since I believe her pregnancies will be high-risk. 

 

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8 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I don't know much about Austin's sister other than she's been married for 4 years and has two kids.

She's pregnant with her 3rd.

Edit: Beaten to it. But it seems like the young Ballingers are fully on the QF train.

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7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

But it seems like the young Ballingers are fully on the QF train.

My impression of Bob Ballinger is that dissent/critical thinking in that realm would not be welcomed. A big part of his public persona is the whole "big Christian homeschool family" thing. Since Bobby is also apparently interested in following in his father's footsteps, it wouldn't surprise me if he is basically adopting the family brand as his own. 

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4 hours ago, floridamom said:

So far, IMO, I don't think the Duggar daughters are built very well to have children. Look at Jill's two disasters, Jessa's "BLEEDING" and Joy's difficult/emergency situation and then a very, very sad event. Jinger, who I believe had competent care and an early induction did well.

I also think personality plays a role. Austin might come from a fundie family but I do believe he cares about Joy's welfare and wouldn't rush a brand new pregnancy on Joy if the first one was so difficult and the second one ended so sadly. And this can;t be said enough -- there's plenty of time. Joy's 22. Her ovaries aren't drying up.

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3 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Any Duggar pregnancy is “much ado about nothing“. 

It really, really is. I’d rather watch paint dry than hear anymore about their pregnancies.

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2 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

I also think personality plays a role. Austin might come from a fundie family but I do believe he cares about Joy's welfare and wouldn't rush a brand new pregnancy on Joy if the first one was so difficult and the second one ended so sadly. And this can;t be said enough -- there's plenty of time. Joy's 22. Her ovaries aren't drying up.

We know that, but they act as if there is no tomorrow.

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6 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

We know that, but they act as if there is no tomorrow.

I think they have a hard time separating out no future from no tomorrow.

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18 hours ago, ginger90 said:

 

That's a cute pic of Gideon, and a cute post !

So nice that she is not selling anything. Just a cute pic of her kid. Way to go, Joy!

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So now Esther can't travel for 4-6 months. Who will keep the $100k in the meantime? Lawson?

 

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Oh Joy so didn't write any of that post because she wouldn't understand half of what the big words meant. These people are nuts.

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She reposted from Lawson, who likely doesn't understand half of what he wrote. 

FWIW, Esther will need more than one surgery. 

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