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I watched the show for the first 3-4 months. Liked it initially, but as the panels became more and more left, sometimes with a token dissenter, I stopped. TLWS, like TDS, is best when it pokes fun at all sides, not when it takes one side. That's why I stopped watching TDS during JS's last two years, and dropped it with Trevor after a month.

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I LOVED THIS SHOW.
My friend and I had tickets back in April, but the day of the taping we were both so sick, we couldn't go. I am so sad that we will never get the chance to go.

Meh. One of my favorite "news" shows.
I guess the lack of comments here tells the tale... :(

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I watched every single episode. It was my favorite late night show. I loved the correspondents and Larry's dry wit. And as a middle aged white lady I feel I learned a lot from it as well.

I'm not sure if I'm going to continue watching "The Daily Show," and "Late Show with Stephen Colbert" has been extremely hit or miss for me (more miss than hit, except for the convention-week shows, which I thought were very good). I know she's said she doesn't want to do it, but I wish Sam Bee could be convinced to do more-frequent episodes. Bleh.

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2 hours ago, trow125 said:

 

I watched every single episode. It was my favorite late night show. I loved the correspondents and Larry's dry wit. And as a middle aged white lady I feel I learned a lot from it as well.

 

Me too. I dislike Stephen's current format, & Trevor's TDS is way too puerile for me these days (although if they pick up a few of TNS's writers, they may improve). 

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4 hours ago, Ottis said:

I watched the show for the first 3-4 months. Liked it initially, but as the panels became more and more left, sometimes with a token dissenter, I stopped. TLWS, like TDS, is best when it pokes fun at all sides, not when it takes one side. That's why I stopped watching TDS during JS's last two years, and dropped it with Trevor after a month.

I tried to like this show 5-6 times, putting it on and off my season pass. In the end I could never get past Larry's awkward delivery and the constant chuckling at himself.

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I like this show much more than the new Daily Show, and I will watch the whole thing, unlike the Late Show with SC (where I skip the interviews 75% of the time).  I loved the correspondents, they were absolutely fantastic (for the most part - Ricky Valez was very hit/miss).  I loved the diverse viewpoint, which is so sorely lacking in late night (or hell just about anytime of the day) TV.   

I'm very annoyed with CC.

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35 minutes ago, jbrecken said:

CC needs to very quickly rework whatever Jessica Williams' new project is into a replacement show for this slot.

CC's not going to upend Jessica's work on her upcoming scripted series just because some people are stamping their feet demanding she do a daily topical show. If she wanted to do that, she would have been hosting TDS by now. So, unless they come up with another topical show for someone else to host, we'll probably be seeing Chris Hardwick's show at that slot for quite awhile.

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The fact that this show is getting canceled makes me less likely to watch The Daily Show which has been hit and miss for me lately. Sighs this isn't good for the diversity side either. So sad.

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I'm disappointed. I understand that contracts were up for renewal and they had to make a decision. But I really would have liked to have seen this stay on air at least until the end of election season. I will continue to watch TDS. I've enjoyed watching Trevor and hope he continues to grow as the host.

 

Bye Larry and crew :(

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Found out about this through Bleeding Cool. But look on the bright side . . . this frees Larry from the election, barring Trevor tapping him for TDS. And he can get in better shape for when he has to wrestle Hannibal Burress for the right to take a dump on Bill Cosby's grave. #haventforgottenaboutyoumotherfucker

Any chance the correspondents will be picked up by TDS? Not like I'd want/expect a retread on "Nightly Nightly," but some of those players have talent. And I'm gonna miss "Pardon The Integration," especially how Mike always got screwed in the end.

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20 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Any chance the correspondents will be picked up by TDS? Not like I'd want/expect a retread on "Nightly Nightly," but some of those players have talent. And I'm gonna miss "Pardon The Integration," especially how Mike always got screwed in the end.

I agree that there is a lot of talent there, but I kinda doubt any of them will end up on Comedy Central anywhere. I mean this was a network that even after TCR succeeded didn't manage to develop anything from TDS correspondents after all.

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Called it two months ago in the Last Week Tonight Media forum.  I liked Larry Wilmore on The Daily Show.  This show just wasn't that interesting.   I still say it's blowback from The Correspondent's dinner, where his performance was awful.  

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Bull.  Shit.

The show started out weak, but gained its feet a few months in and was great afterward. Far better than TDS 3.0.

This really is looking like fallout from the Correspondent's Dinner, and that's a total crock. 

A big problem is that I don't know where a guy like Larry, in this position, goes from here.  It's probably been years since he did anything like regular stand-up comedy, but I imagine that's really his only option (and that pays peanuts if its not paired with other stuff).  He's probably not gonna be getting any sitcom offers or other work from Comedy Central.  I just hope he was able to sock most of his salary away, because it's going to be rough going for him now.

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I'm sad about this, and when the show first premiered I didn't like it.  I checked in intermittently.  It grew on me and lately it had become a regular show for me.  I didn't agree with all the commentary but I appreciated the perspectives.  Lantern7, I agree "Pardon the Integration" and "Nightly! Nightly!" are the best recurring skits.

I stopped watching the Daily Show, and watch The Late Show occasionally, so it looks like Last Week Tonight is my last regular stop.

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Maybe Jon Stewart's successors will hold a dispersal draft for Larry's on and off-air staff.

Y'all think TNS would be gutsy enough to feature the show's demise on "The Y-Files"? It would take two days alone for Mike to set up a board.

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3 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Maybe Jon Stewart's successors will hold a dispersal draft for Larry's on and off-air staff.

I think Trevor Noah is only hanging on by his fingernails, although Wilmore going likely gives him a boost, since CC doesn't want to seem too be ditching all of their black hosts at once.

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Larry is a talented man - writing and producing, in addition to performing. I think he'll be just fine after the initial doldrums.

I do feel that the show did struggle, although I personally thought it was showing improvement. Sounds like it just comes down to the numbers, and if they couldn't jump start it after the convention, it wasn't going to happen. A shame, really - I won't be sticking around for @Midnight during the next three months, that's for sure.

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I appreciate Larry calling bullshit on so much bullshit. He's super smart, I'll miss watching him regularly. Not worried about his future---more time to launch shows of the quality of Black-ish.

Larry's White House correspondents dinner appearance was not quite at Colbert's level, but it was mighty impressive and he doesn't have to apologize like poor Lewis Black did for years after his lame turn.

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I have been watching from the very beginning.   The show has improved, but I also understand a lot of people didn't give it a chance after the first few episodes.  The show has really been hitting it's stride in recent weeks.  Larry's segment on the Baltimore police and the scathing DOJ report was both sad and brilliant at the same time.   And he seems to be the only one still talking about the Flint water crisis.  Sadly, I don't know who will be the voice for the stories any longer. 

That all being said, I think some of the downfall of the show was those silly panels.  Rarely did they shed light on anything of any important.  More often, stupid stuff would flow out of the mouth of Ricky Velez and (sadly) Mike Yard in recent weeks.  More often than not, I would just tune away from them.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a big dropoff of viewers around that time.

Still, I will miss Larry.  And most of his correspondents too.  And it really, really sucks to see his show cancelled before the election.  Couldn't they have at least let him go for a few months longer?  What was the hurry? 

Oh well.  Good luck, Larry!  Will still follow you on social media.  And hopefully soon you will resurface on my TV screen very soon-like!

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9 hours ago, Kromm said:

Bull.  Shit.

The show started out weak, but gained its feet a few months in and was great afterward. Far better than TDS 3.0.

This really is looking like fallout from the Correspondent's Dinner, and that's a total crock. 

A big problem is that I don't know where a guy like Larry, in this position, goes from here.  It's probably been years since he did anything like regular stand-up comedy, but I imagine that's really his only option (and that pays peanuts if its not paired with other stuff).  He's probably not gonna be getting any sitcom offers or other work from Comedy Central.  I just hope he was able to sock most of his salary away, because it's going to be rough going for him now.

Larry had a book, I'D RATHER WE GOT CASINOS, that did pretty well. He'll probably have another book or three in him. TDS folks like Lewis Black seem to have one every couple of years. I'm guessing he gets residuals from THE BERNIE MAC SHOW (he was the creator and showrunner for the first season) and the other shows he's written for over the years. (He wrote one of the funniest episodes of THE OFFICE, "Performance Review" and worked with a lot of folks from that show on other things. He's got a good reputation as a writer. Someone will pick him up to produce or executive produce.

The other talent and crew is who I feel for. Sure, I wasn't crazy about some of them. I never understood Ricky's appeal. You're sullen and uninformed and smoke a lot of weed, we get it. But, I hate to see anyone lose their gig.

When the show was good, it was very good. Larry's opening monologues were often funny and pointed. The Drumpf bits were always funny to me. But the table discussions seemed to be the other comics trying to prove they were funny, often at the expense of the guest.

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Very mixed feeling about this...I only added TNS to my DVR earlier this year along with TDS and it seemed all too often that they would both play the same clips and make very similar jokes. In the end, I think that the two shows were too similar in both content and in points of view.

I think that TNS would have been better served with a retooling rather than a cancellation. Personally I would have loved to have seen a half hour of the panel rather than just the last ten minutes. To me that was TNS at its best.

Also it is very weak of Comedy Central to cancel it three months before the election....and it is essentially replacing that with repeats. Hard to believe that they are going to get significantly better ratings with @midnight/repeats as opposed to TNS/@midnight in the 11:30 and midnight slots. Anytime a network replaces a first run show with old repeats, it's being short-sighted and only cares about a potential slight tick increase in ratings rather than a potential boom for a show to find it's legs and deliver better ratings.

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What a crap decision, CC. Larry's show got steadily better as time went on, though of course there were a few clunkers here and there. I will miss his wit and intelligence and social conscience. I gave up completely on the Daily Show, but still have the Nightly show on my DVR. I have no reason now to watch Comedy Central.

I hope Larry can get a show on HBO. The main problem with his panel segment was there just wasn't time to get into any discussion in depth. An hour long show would fix that, even if it was only once a week. Probably too much like Real Time, though, for that to happen. A series of stand up specials by him would be most welcome. Larry Wilmore is a very, very talented man.

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No! They why did they need to rush this decision and pull the show before November? That's some short-sighted vision, CC :(
My favorite part of The Nightly Show was the panel discussion. I think the panel should have taken up more of the show. It really benefitted when they showed rational discussion of truly diverse viewpoints. I think some notes to comedians on the panel - guests and regulars - on how to express their opinions without resorting to lines from their standup routines would have benefitted everyone. I'd love to see TDS add a panel discussion!
And I loved and will miss "keep it 100".

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ON NPR this morning, they cited Larry's trouble connecting with millennials as the main reason for cancellation. Aren't millennials supposed to be all multi-cultural? The citation may have been to CC execs, it wasn't clear in what I could hear.

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I like this show much more than the new Daily Show, and I will watch the whole thing, unlike the Late Show with SC (where I skip the interviews 75% of the time).  I loved the correspondents, they were absolutely fantastic (for the most part - Ricky Valez was very hit/miss).  I loved the diverse viewpoint, which is so sorely lacking in late night (or hell just about anytime of the day) TV.   

I'm very annoyed with CC.

Yes! I often skip TDS interviews if the person doesn't interest me, same with Colbert interviews. I never skipped through a single section of Nightly Show. I absolutely loved the panels once they retooled (shifted to 3 instead of 4, only had 1 guest and 2 regulars, etc).


I really do feel like they just never regained the people they lost early because I have trouble believing that if it had started as strong as it's ending that it wouldn't have caught on.

With the exception of Velez, I really will miss all of the correspondents and their commentary. It was downright sweet for them to let Mike Yard win Pardon the Interrogation last night for his final appearance!

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Well, I'll be the dissenter here with respect to the panel discussions. Contrary to the article in Variety, it wasn't the "best" part of the show; hell, there was barely five minutes dedicated to it, and just not enough time to discuss whatever issues Larry wanted to talk about, in depth. Yes I'm anal enough that I would look at my time on my dvr and the panel always started at the :22 mark of a 30 minute show (with commercials) and the "discussions" would end at the :27 mark. Not even 10 minutes.

I never warmed up to Ricky the idiot; and "Nightly Nightly" was a skit I always fast forwarded. And no, I'm not going to give Ricky any slack because of his age; Francesca is also close to his age, I think, and she didn't come across like an uninformed nimrodic fool, like Ricky always did. 

I will miss Larry's opening monologues and Pardon the Integration. That one bit always, and I mean always had me in stitches to the point where my stomach hurt.

And the irony of ironies: now that the show has been cancelled, it's all over the media, and my Face Book feed.

CC can just suck it.

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4 hours ago, SpiritSong said:

The main problem with his panel segment was there just wasn't time to get into any discussion in depth. An hour long show would fix that, even if it was only once a week.

You could do 30 minutes of show with a panel, rather than just the 21 you get on cable tv. This was really a 30 minute show crammed into a 21 minute slot. When the panels were good, they were really good. But they were uneven. There were a lot of panels with comedians just trying out their 3 minutes of new material. I forgot her name, but they had on an african-american professor a few times and she knocked it out everytime. But she was only on like 3 times. Then you had on people who were just plugging a book. 

I think they really wasted the potential of the panel. 

And the reason they couldn't stay to the election was because the contracts were up now. If they were going to renew them, then it would have had to have been for another year, and it seemed that the network didn't think the show would be worth that investment. This timing wasn't an arbitrary thing. 

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8 hours ago, jamblastx said:

Personally I would have loved to have seen a half hour of the panel rather than just the last ten minutes. To me that was TNS at its best.

I agree. I wish the show had adopted a sort of Meet the Press format; equally informative but funny.

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6 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Well, I'll be the dissenter here with respect to the panel discussions. Contrary to the article in Variety, it wasn't the "best" part of the show; hell, there was barely five minutes dedicated to it, and just not enough time to discuss whatever issues Larry wanted to talk about, in depth. Yes I'm anal enough that I would look at my time on my dvr and the panel always started at the :22 mark of a 30 minute show (with commercials) and the "discussions" would end at the :27 mark. Not even 10 minutes.

I have to agree and am wondering who all these people are who thought it was? Did they really think it was better than Larry's desk bits? Than the sketches? How? It's obvious that the show itself didn't agree given the way it was cut back over time.

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I never warmed up to Ricky the idiot; and "Nightly Nightly" was a skit I always fast forwarded. And no, I'm not going to give Ricky any slack because of his age; Francesca is also close to his age, I think, and she didn't come across like an uninformed nimrodic fool, like Ricky always did. 

Francesca is a rare creative talent who has insight and maturity beyond her years, much like Jessica Williams. I think casting Ricky was a mistake. Everything I've seen suggests he is a tremendously talented stand up, but he simply wasn't ready for a topical show. Few would be. I blame the producers not him.

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I will miss Larry's opening monologues and Pardon the Integration. That one bit always, and I mean always had me in stitches to the point where my stomach hurt.

And the irony of ironies: now that the show has been cancelled, it's all over the media, and my Face Book feed.

CC can just suck it.

On all of this, especially the last line I agree totally!

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13 hours ago, WAnglais1 said:

Larry had a book, I'D RATHER WE GOT CASINOS, that did pretty well. He'll probably have another book or three in him. TDS folks like Lewis Black seem to have one every couple of years. I'm guessing he gets residuals from THE BERNIE MAC SHOW (he was the creator and showrunner for the first season) and the other shows he's written for over the years. (He wrote one of the funniest episodes of THE OFFICE, "Performance Review" and worked with a lot of folks from that show on other things. He's got a good reputation as a writer. Someone will pick him up to produce or executive produce.

The other talent and crew is who I feel for. Sure, I wasn't crazy about some of them. I never understood Ricky's appeal. You're sullen and uninformed and smoke a lot of weed, we get it. But, I hate to see anyone lose their gig.

When the show was good, it was very good. Larry's opening monologues were often funny and pointed. The Drumpf bits were always funny to me. But the table discussions seemed to be the other comics trying to prove they were funny, often at the expense of the guest.

I guess so. I suppose maybe the qualifier would be that he's a lot less likely to get on-camera stuff. 

I suppose he could go the route of writing a sitcom about the host of a fake news show and the trials and tribulations around him.

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Francesca is a rare creative talent who has insight and maturity beyond her years, much like Jessica Williams. I think casting Ricky was a mistake. Everything I've seen suggests he is a tremendously talented stand up, but he simply wasn't ready for a topical show. Few would be. I blame the producers not him.

She came late to the show but has been one of the best parts of it since she showed up. Ricky?  Mostly just annoying, but he hardly killed the show by himself. 

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I want Francesca, Holly and Robin to succeed in other venues because they were the best of the contributors IMO. If you are on twitter I would highly recommend following Francesca. She has some great insights about the world and is even more political than Jessica Williams.

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Francesca was on MTV before. I think her star will continue to rise.
I really enjoyed all the women of the nightly show. Holly, Robin, and Grace (as well as Francesca.)
I liked some of the random skits they did. The skit about the overuse of Antibiotics was sooooo funny and so was the banana eating skit.
I also found the piece on led poisoning scary, but so important and informative.
I wonder if part of this is backlash on Jon Stewart. He was one of the creators. It didn't take off the way they hoped and then he was left the network before the end of the first year. We haven't seen him which suggests he's not involved. '
Larry was the best at calling out the media, since Jon left. Someone should try to call them out more.

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11 hours ago, Kromm said:

She came late to the show but has been one of the best parts of it since she showed up. Ricky?  Mostly just annoying, but he hardly killed the show by himself. 

I totally agree with you on everything. And actually I find Ricky less annoying than many here. He's done some good stuff in scripted bits and has improved on panel. I think it's more of an example of a bigger failing - the tolerance for less than the best sometimes and not understanding how the audience was reacting. With this format you can't accept multiple contributors who were funny, but not good on panel. Just like you can't keep a recurring bit that so much of your audience actively hates just because the cast member likes doing it. I never got the sense that there was a bad cop here who was insisting that everything had to be sharper and funnier and rejecting funny pitches that didn't have a point or fit in to the larger POV. It's why I really like the show, but feel that there was a lot of untapped potential.

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The panel was really good last night. This is what the show did best - giving us a smart and funny conversation with a different POV. And I have to say that I love Samantha Bee even more now. I didn't even think that was possible.

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I like Larry Wilmore and The Nightly Show. Before I resubscribed to cable, I would binge watch every weekend. Did I talk about the show over the Internet, no, but I watched it much more than Trevor Noah. I have nothing against Trevor Noah, I just loved TNS from the beginning. Comedy Central has lost a fan. I won't watch any of their shows now. 

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Ricky's "in the street" pieces were fine and the sketches were good. He just wasn't good on the panel. I don't know if he's too young to have formed much of a pov. I sure didn't. Or, as I pointed out, the Clintons have been investigated for longer than he's been alive. That's going to affect your opinion too and it's a really good point to consider. I wish he would have been able to grasp that larger picture though or gain some more self-awareness. 

I feel like they could have played to the cast's strengths a little more. I know you can do the same bits over and over because they got stale. They did a lot of the PTI and Y Files, but could have done # and That's What She Said a lot more, and not nearly enough "in the street". 

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13 hours ago, chescaleigh said:

Hey Previously forum, Franchesca here. I just wanted to say thanks for watching and leaving thoughtful commentary and constructive criticism every night. From day one I've read the forums here and on reddit (even though they hate TNS and especially hate me) to get an honest idea of how people viewed the show and my performances and I've always appreciated how balanced the feedback was here versus everywhere else on the internet. I know the show and by extension, I am not perfect, but it's been really frustrating to read so many untrue and completely unfair things about myself and the show's cancellation online. And by online I mean reddit, seriously don't go over there lol I always tried to share points I read here with the cast and crew in an effort to make the show better, so please know your voices didn't go unheard. 

Thanks for letting us know we amounted to useful feedback. I can't imagine what the redditers found to hatefully spew about, but I'll be sure to steer clear.

One of the things I loved about TNS is that Larry seemed to be very clearly at ease with and committed to representing female voices, and he didn't act like it was some super-human difficulty to find quality women to do that. It was just a fundamental to the show, and proves all the other shows who are apparently incapable are actually just lazy and unwilling and not really interested in doing it.

Also, on last night's panel, I was glad you (Franchesca) had the guts to try to expose the false equivalence Larry was trying to make between oppressed people wanting space vs dominant people seeking to exclude.

I know none of this is Hardwick's fault, but I can't see @midnight filling the same need as TNS; I had gotten in the habit of watching it after TNS because I needed to cool down from getting all worked up watching TNS before I could go to sleep, but on its own I don't see it being worth staying up for. If CC is going to become nothing but endless repeats of South Park and Tosh.0, I will surely be getting my TV elsewhere. But I'm a 51 year old, not a millenial, so probably they don't care.

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It just makes me sad. I really liked everyone and ill cry on Thursday. Just regret not getting to see show live, but having a baby and living in Midwest kinda hindered that.  This, TDS, and Sam Bee got me through some long nights

I liked how Larry would joke or make sarcastic comments and then slam a serious truth bomb.  One that always sticks out to me was Larry taking on NRA and the children-on-children shooting. He final comment of "“By your rationale, we can solve toddler shootings by arming every toddler!” just made my stomach drop. 

On lighter note, Robin's black lady sign language will never stop making me laugh. 

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20 hours ago, chescaleigh said:

Hey Previously forum, Franchesca here. I just wanted to say thanks for watching and leaving thoughtful commentary and constructive criticism every night. From day one I've read the forums here and on reddit (even though they hate TNS and especially hate me) to get an honest idea of how people viewed the show and my performances and I've always appreciated how balanced the feedback was here versus everywhere else on the internet. I know the show and by extension, I am not perfect, but it's been really frustrating to read so many untrue and completely unfair things about myself and the show's cancellation online. And by online I mean reddit, seriously don't go over there lol I always tried to share points I read here with the cast and crew in an effort to make the show better, so please know your voices didn't go unheard. 

Anyway, no need to respond I swear I'm not fishing, it's just nice to know some corner of the web will miss us. Take care. 

reddit can often be a sewer. Even people ON reddit admit that sometimes.  You and Larry both did great jobs on the show. No comedian doesn't have their share of misses, but trust in reddit to make you feel like there were far more of those than reality and that they counted the most.

BTW: Even if you were fishing?  Big deal.  You just lost a great job, and DID a great job, and deserve some commiseration.  

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