Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[sometimesy]

1 hour ago, Kokapetl said:

Dericks dentures are sliding out. 

Maybe they're in the car because Jill only got an hour out of the hospital or something. 

That's a really good point. Maybe Sam or Jill still need observation or treatment and they are taking time out in the car. If so, then it makes much more sense than just randomly sitting in a car eating a donated pizza. 

[Sew Sumi]

28 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

Reminder: #babymoon was less than a month ago!

They were on the #babymoon when the After Show was being filmed. The timeline of JoStin being married 26 days confirmed that. We saw the pics from Silver Dollar City and the B&B at exactly the same time. 

I just find it bizarre that they couldn't put off the #babymoon a few days. It was still a couple of weeks before Sammy was due, and Jill felt good enough not to cancel #babymoon plans. I wonder what the real story of why they weren't part of the After Show nonsense really is?

[Spencer Hastings]

Jill looks pretty good after reading all the speculation about the sky falling.  

As for pizza in the car, I say whatever.  The baby is three weeks old but I've known lots of couples to have grandma stay with the baby for an hour so that mom and dad could breathe.  If Samuel's birth was shaky or something was wrong with Jill, pizza in the car might be needed for their general sanity. Maybe they consider it a legit date, or maybe this is the first time Derick has been able to get Jill out of bed since having a baby.  I'm just kind of relieved for Jill. 

[GeeGolly]

2 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

They were on the #babymoon when the After Show was being filmed. The timeline of JoStin being married 26 days confirmed that. We saw the pics from Silver Dollar City and the B&B at exactly the same time. 

I just find it bizarre that they couldn't put off the #babymoon a few days. It was still a couple of weeks before Sammy was due, and Jill felt good enough not to cancel #babymoon plans. I wonder what the real story of why they weren't part of the After Show nonsense really is?

Good point. They mess with the timeline so much I didn't think it was odd she wasn't there. Did mention why she wasn't there?

Dan received some type of award recently. Maybe he received it during the babymoon? (I shudder as I type babymoon). Maybe Jill & Derick put family before money?

And no contractual obligations to film the After Show?

[GeeGolly]

6 hours ago, doodlebug said:

Yeah, but the Dullards had a gift card for Dominos.  I suspect that if it hadn't been free, they wouldn't have gone.

And I was thinking that the thoughtful person who gifted them the card purposely chose Domino's so a couple with a toddler and newborn wouldn't have to leave the house for dinner. The modern day equivalent of a casserole. 

[saylubee]

It's funny because most of the Domino's I've been in lately have remodeled so there's a little eat-in dining area.  They could have at least posed with the full pizza there and scarfed down the rest in the car if they wanted.  Jill and Derick seem to go out of their way to post the most questionable pictures ever.

I can't begrudge date night.  I left my kids with Grandma around 1-2 weeks to go eat dinner for an hour with my husband.  It felt really nice to shower, get dressed in real clothes, put some makeup on and feel like a woman again instead of a sliced and diced milk factory.

[floridamom]

When was this photo taken? I think Jill looks pale and still tired. DDD needs a real orthodontist AND a nutritionist.

Hypocrites for eating PEPPERONI pizza.

[Jynnan tonnix]

10 minutes ago, floridamom said:

When was this photo taken? I think Jill looks pale and still tired. DDD needs a real orthodontist AND a nutritionist.

Hypocrites for eating PEPPERONI pizza.

I suppose it's possible that Derick eats pork while Jill doesn't, and they got half of the pizza just plain or something, but Derick didn't finish all of his...Though much more likely that Duggars simply don't make the connection between pork and pepperoni.

Mr Jyn and I generally get a pizza with half pepperoni & sausage for him, and half mushroom &  onion for me. Oddly, he doesn't like pork and won't eat it, but does like smoked pork & sausage while I like pork but find pepperoni too salty for me as a rule.

[Jeeves]

2 hours ago, saylubee said:

It's funny because most of the Domino's I've been in lately have remodeled so there's a little eat-in dining area.  They could have at least posed with the full pizza there and scarfed down the rest in the car if they wanted.  Jill and Derick seem to go out of their way to post the most questionable pictures ever.

I can't begrudge date night.  I left my kids with Grandma around 1-2 weeks to go eat dinner for an hour with my husband.  It felt really nice to shower, get dressed in real clothes, put some makeup on and feel like a woman again instead of a sliced and diced milk factory.

@saylubee - Nailed it about about the questionable pictures.

I snarked on them about pizza in the car, but I don't think #datenight is bad. It's just how they chose to promote it. I can't believe that three weeks post-surgery, Jill's unable to walk into a restaurant, but I dunno, maybe her recovery has been slow, and all she could do was get into the car. If so, it's mean of me to snark, and no doubt I'll be smitten by a vengeful dog, or internet karma, or something.

And, ya'll, I really hope Jill's recovering well, and I suppose it's good that she's up and dressed and out of the house and smiling for a selfie, even if she's struggling with PPD. So yeah, I feel less snarkish today. Way less snarkish. Poor girl's had a rough time this month, as reality has collided with her dreams of being a super-breeder like her mother, and outdoing her sisters and sisters-in-law with awesome perfect home births, which would be bad enough without having to recover from a C-section as well. I kinda do need a trip to the Prayer Closet. Sigh.

Edited July 30, 2017 by Jeeves

[BitterApple]

The way Jill's hair is caught just below her shoulders shows how attractive she could look if she'd just hack off that scraggly mane. I don't know why these girls cling to their long hair when they don't even maintain and style it properly. 

Derick's teeth look like they're sliding out of his mouth. I can't believe it's been two years since his surgery and there's still no visible improvement. 

[EmeraldGirl]

Maybe they ate inside and were showing off the leftovers they were taking home. 

I went out to dinner two weeks post baby. Why do we have to be glued to the infant 24/7? Mothers are people too who need a little change of scenery. And I was a SAHM so a little time out didn't hurt anybody. 

[asuwur]

Or maybe, MAYBE, thry just decided they don't give a flying fadoodle about the pork rule much like Jinger gave the "no pants and porn shoulders" law the middle finger when she escaped Cell Block Duggar. 

I know my mom would shoo the hubs and I out for a couple hours when the kids were teeny. This was clearly a traumatic birth experience. They went a got a pizza and tried to have a (relatively) normal moment. Good on them. Perhaps they felt like this was the "proof of life" photo of Jill people were clamoring for. 

[queenanne]

2 hours ago, saylubee said:

It's funny because most of the Domino's I've been in lately have remodeled so there's a little eat-in dining area.  They could have at least posed with the full pizza there and scarfed down the rest in the car if they wanted.

Just pointing out that now that I think about this, I've never seen it.  They're all "grab and go".  I live in NYC and walk past more than one on a regular basis.  Plus I'm pretty sure from prior commercials on the brand, I have retained the fact that they're all individual franchises.  Not to say that they can't get a universal upgrade based upon corporate drawing up some universal plans, but that they might have to elect to take it.  

Aside: Just yesterday I ran across an older blog which pointed out this wouldn't be the first time the blogger saw Duggars eating pizza with pepperoni, and also recalled having seen them eat hot dogs which the blogger questioned the beef-or-pork content of.  Maybe they object to pork qua pork because of trichinosis, rather than on religious grounds, and haven't said.

[xwordfanatik]

18 minutes ago, asuwur said:

Or maybe, MAYBE, thry just decided they don't give a flying fadoodle about the pork rule much like Jinger gave the "no pants and porn shoulders" law the middle finger when she escaped Cell Block Duggar. 

I know my mom would shoo the hubs and I out for a couple hours when the kids were teeny. This was clearly a traumatic birth experience. They went a got a pizza and tried to have a (relatively) normal moment. Good on them. Perhaps they felt like this was the "proof of life" photo of Jill people were clamoring for. 

That was my guess.  Derick sucks at introducing Jill to pork, compared to BAAAAABE and Jin's liberation from skirts, if we can compare the two relationships.

Derick's teeth look like Mr. Xword's dentures when he doesn't have them in all the way.  Awful.  He PAID to have his face fucked-up like that?  Wow.

[Absolom]

2 hours ago, floridamom said:

Hypocrites for eating PEPPERONI pizza.

Derick is a regular Southern Baptist and they have nothing against pork products or pepperoni and Jill is to follow her headship so really nothing hypocritical about it.  Now if it were Jim Bob, that would be a problem.

I can't fault them however they got out of the house.  They don't do the best job with social media and never have.  Maybe Cathy came over and shooed them out the door for a bit.  I did the same when the grandkids were young.

[lascuba]

12 hours ago, queenanne said:

I think the primary source of the complaints is, this is what Jill is posting "instead of", while people are legitimately writhing in concern to know about how things are going with the wee baby. Not that she "owes" the world pictures of the baby, but gossip sites are publishing articles about how people are worried.  Instead, it's them with the $5.99-item special down at Dominos.  

I think this is deliberate on their part rather than their usual tone-deafness. People are (rightfully) calling them out on their bad and unethical decisions all the time and now they're acting concerned for Jill and Samuel's health? Let the haters worry. 

Again, I'm not saying people are wrong for most of things they say about the Dillards, and criticism and concern aren't mutually exclusive. But putting myself in their (no doubt filthy) shoes, I'd be deliberately holding back, too. People who appear to hate my guts aren't entitled to have me assuage their concerns for my health. 

[queenanne]

3 minutes ago, lascuba said:

I think this is deliberate on their part rather than their usual tone-deafness. People are (rightfully) calling them out on their bad and unethical decisions all the time and now they're acting concerned for Jill and Samuel's health? Let the haters worry. 

Again, I'm not saying people are wrong for most of things they say about the Dillards, and criticism and concern aren't mutually exclusive. But putting myself in their (no doubt filthy) shoes, I'd be deliberately holding back, too. People who appear to hate my guts aren't entitled to have me assuage their concerns for my health. 

Fair enough, but it's not the way to gain more followers, which is what the Dulls are supposed to want.  If I were in their positions and needed to justify my need for donations and the like, and assumed the baby was the only thing a lot of people liked and/or were interested in in respect of me, I'd go all-in on the baby pictures, thinking maybe at least these people will support the baby. 

[Lunera]

Maybe there really is a feud between Derick and Jeremy and that's why they decided not to go. Thery're not as interesting couple anymore so nobody cared, Jinge and Babe have taken the role of favorite fundy couple.

[AUgirl]

1 hour ago, asuwur said:

Or maybe, MAYBE, thry just decided they don't give a flying fadoodle about the pork rule much

They're Duggars--do they even realize pepperoni is a pork product....

[Genevrier]

13 hours ago, magpye29 said:

I thought the Duggars don't eat pork.

It's very selective Leviticus. 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Genevrier

[lascuba]

1 hour ago, queenanne said:

Fair enough, but it's not the way to gain more followers, which is what the Dulls are supposed to want.  If I were in their positions and needed to justify my need for donations and the like, and assumed the baby was the only thing a lot of people liked and/or were interested in in respect of me, I'd go all-in on the baby pictures, thinking maybe at least these people will support the baby. 

You're absolutely right. From a practical perspective, the smart thing to do is to keep sweet, pretend the critics don't exist, and post cute baby pictures. But I totally get not doing so on a visceral level. My petty bitch side would be screaming at me to take the financial hit while the internet worries. This is why I could never make a living as any sort of public figure. 

[Genevrier]

On 7/25/2017 at 8:32 AM, luvbadtv said:

Maybe Jill needs to remember her conversation with Jinger about being content with what God has in store for you.  It might not be what you want, but you must be content.

Clearly she meant that Jinger should be content with what God has in store for her. 

[Marigold]

Glad to see Jill is well. 

Very odd first picture of her and Derick.  

I have had many date nights in my car. That is the least of the issues with the Jill & Dill.   

My guess?  Miss Cathy is watching the babies and they slipped out for some "alone" time but stayed close to home so Jill can breastfed Samuel. A restaurant with a waitress can take a while and newborns nurse constantly. 

[queenanne]

5 minutes ago, Genevrier said:

Clearly she meant that Jinger should be content with what God has in store for her. 

Which is the type of statement which tells us why some viewers have wished for years for Jill to get a comeuppance.  Because it's oh so easy for Miss Smug to say, "You ought to be content with whatever God gives you."  

Jill has had ample time to reflect upon the situations of her youth (i.e, "Mom almost had a nervous breakdown with 5-6 kids, one of them me"); and to contemplate that maybe, just maybe, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and nothing says that *she* is going to be capable of handling multiple children either.  She already almost lost it with one kid in the house and one falling shower curtain.  It would be better for just about everyone in the Duggar world that Jill realize before the kids come, that she finds it tough to cope with one; without barely being able to hide her resentment towards her kid looking longingly at her apple ("No!  Mine!", though that one's 100% on JimBob's greed on starving Jill in her formative years).

[Scarlett45]

2 hours ago, queenanne said:

Which is the type of statement which tells us why some viewers have wished for years for Jill to get a comeuppance.  Because it's oh so easy for Miss Smug to say, "You ought to be content with whatever God gives you."  

Jill has had ample time to reflect upon the situations of her youth (i.e, "Mom almost had a nervous breakdown with 5-6 kids, one of them me"); and to contemplate that maybe, just maybe, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and nothing says that *she* is going to be capable of handling multiple children either.  She already almost lost it with one kid in the house and one falling shower curtain.  It would be better for just about everyone in the Duggar world that Jill realize before the kids come, that she finds it tough to cope with one; without barely being able to hide her resentment towards her kid looking longingly at her apple ("No!  Mine!", though that one's 100% on JimBob's greed on starving Jill in her formative years).

That apple incident REALLY bothered me. I admit that I grew up privledged from an economic prospective and that many people do struggle to put food on the table, but, growing up food was something that you didnt fight over- there was always more at the store.

Izzy is just a little boy, if he wanted an apple and there was only one, what mother wouldn't let him have the apple and just get buy extra the next grocery trip? I understand if his another sibling was eating the apple and you were teaching him that he just couldn't take things, but parent/child relationship is much different. 

 

Even IF there wasn't money to buy another apple, I don't know a single parent (mother or father) that wouldn't let their child have it and just go without. 

 

Hell, I'm not a parent and if a TODDLER wanted some of my snack I would let them have it (I have a 2.5yrs old god daughter though). 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Scarlett45

[Future Cat Lady]

What's annoying about that post is the tagging of the restaurant. They're obviously trying to get some freebies. 

It's also annoying that they didn't pay for their meal since they had a gift card. 

[ChaChaSlide]

11 hours ago, sometimesy said:

That's a really good point. Maybe Sam or Jill still need observation or treatment and they are taking time out in the car. If so, then it makes much more sense than just randomly sitting in a car eating a donated pizza. 

This is a good point that I think is being overlooked. We know Iz is back home after two weeks with Grandma Cathy, but that doesn't mean both of his parents are back home full time. Things are still radio silent on Jill and Sam's conditions, but if Jill is well enough to be outside the hospital eating what amounts to a hand tossed heart attack waiting to happen, chances are the one who is still experiencing health issues is baby Sammy. Jill could be posted up at the hospital dang near around the clock with him (kind of like Michelle when Josie was born premature), and might have only had time for a quick bite with Derrick in the car before going back inside to stand vigil with their youngest son.

[CatS]

As the mother of an almost three year old, the only time I eat in the car is when my daughter is asleep in the back and I don't want to wake her up. To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe the kids are back there sleeping in their car seats. Though I never take selfies of my car eating experiences or would consider it "date night"....

[sometimesy]

3 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Maybe they ate inside and were showing off the leftovers they were taking home. 

I went out to dinner two weeks post baby. Why do we have to be glued to the infant 24/7? Mothers are people too who need a little change of scenery. And I was a SAHM so a little time out didn't hurt anybody. 

Italics is possible.

Bolded is laughable. They would pass their kids off to whichever crew is on the chore list for the pool house that day. Unlikely Jill would ever be isolated and glued to her kids or everyday housework. 

[Jeeves]

7 minutes ago, sometimesy said:

They would pass their kids off to whichever crew is on the chore list for the pool house that day. Unlikely Jill would ever be isolated and glued to her kids or everyday housework. 

I've been thinking that very thing while reading these posts. I'm sure that Jill's unmarried sisters have been duly handling child care and housework and meals for the Dillards. It's not like Jill's coping with a toddler and a newborn with no help around the house. I wonder if Derick occasionally takes a few moments away from his important missionary work to also lend a hand. (I'd like to think that Cathy raised her sons to be at least somewhat self-sufficient around the house if not actually helpful to others.)

ETA: I'm assuming that Jill and Samuel are both home from the hospital. If she's home and he's still in NICU, that's a more stressful situation, but I don't think that's the case.

Edited July 30, 2017 by Jeeves

[PikaScrewChu]

13 hours ago, Temperance said:

No Joy got a big article on her wedding. It was a couple pages. One of their Instagram accounts or their followers instagram accounts posted  it. I read it (in the store). It mentioned paper airplanes and argyle socks. She didn't however make the cover, not even in the big sidebar.  Interesting Jennifer Gardiner didn't authorize the article. I saw another interview I thought was unauthorized. 

My local pharmacy still has the issue out and it was an article with pictures. Yes, the pharmacy is required to stock the magazine despite the fact they do not sell a single one.

I doubt People reached out to the Dullards for more than a blurb on their website. There were just too many celebrity weddings and other things happening that all the magazines and tabloids were preparing for. So many B and C list celebrities that normally would have gotten the People cover for their weddings were pushed off to other magazines.

[momofsquid]

We must remember that the Duggars and adjacents play fast and loose with timelines. Theoretically the Dominos picture could have been taken at any time and posted now to prove all is hunky-dory. Let us not make the mistake of trusting these folks implicitly. My gut feeling, though, is that everything is fine and they're either taking a break from public life or waiting for the almighty paycheck.

[queenanne]

Well, Derrick doesn't seem to have much of a clue, because I question the advisability of someone who seemed at least to frown upon the idea that Jill ate meals hunched over in the bathroom, encouraging her to have a meal wolfing down pizza in a car.  While I grant it may not indicate a specific eating disorder, isn't "eating food in secret" a single facet of more than one eating disorder?  I think Jill could definitely be said to have "food issues" based upon their prior statements, thus I wonder if Jill shouldn't be specifically modeling uniform meals seated in front of a plate with full table settings, i.e. ceremony, and specifically veering away from using the car as a dining room.  (Disclaimer:  I'm no psychiatrist, but common sense suggests the above to me as best practice.)  

Edited July 30, 2017 by queenanne

[kokapetl]

27 minutes ago, queenanne said:

Well, Derrick doesn't seem to have much of a clue, because I question the advisability of someone who seemed at least to frown upon the idea that Jill ate meals hunched over in the bathroom, encouraging her to have a meal wolfing down pizza in a car.  While I grant it may not indicate a specific eating disorder, isn't "eating food in secret" a single facet of more than one eating disorder?  I think Jill could definitely be said to have "food issues" based upon their prior statements, thus I wonder if Jill shouldn't be specifically modeling uniform meals seated in front of a plate with full table settings, i.e. ceremony, and specifically veering away from using the car as a dining room.  (Disclaimer:  I'm no psychiatrist, but common sense suggests the above to me as best practice.)  

I don't think Derick has the most healthy relationship with food either. 

[madpsych78]

Yeah, in fact, I believe if anyone has food issues, it is most likely Derick, not Jill.

[lianau]

23 hours ago, JoanArc said:

That's interesting about Joy. Really, no cover? Maybe there're in negotiations with US or another rag...

I've come up with another theory , when did they sue over the publication of the Josh files ?  Maybe tabloids are a bit iffy on them right now (more so than before ).

Edited July 30, 2017 by lianau

[Nysha]

Eating food in secret because your parents don't allow you to get enough to eat at meals is a different issue than eating food in secret because you're going to binge & purge or you don't want anyone to know how much you really eat. Jill may have food issues related to sharing her food, but I don't think she needs to have specific ceremonial meals because of it. 

[mythoughtis]

Something I found interesting in light of the silence about Samuel: Jill and Derick were not part of the 'after' talk show. Could they have decided that the reality tv show life is interfering with their desired reality? Maybe they have decided to go private?  

 

As for date night, I've had two children. There is nothing wrong with leaving a 3 week old baby in the care of a responsible adult for a couple hours. Appears to be daylight. The kids were probably napping.  

Edited July 31, 2017 by mythoughtis

[JocelynCavanaugh]

I really think we're overthinking this. Sometimes you just want chain pizza and you feel like eating in the car. Maybe it's not for everyone, but it's not that weird or a sign of deep psychological issues!

 

I like "good" pizza and I like Domino's too. Pizza is always a gift from the Lord, IMO. I like to chill in my own car sometimes because I can control the temperature and don't have to listen to crappy Muzak or smacky gross eaters or other people's shrieky children. Maybe eating in the car is more common in areas where people spend more time in their cars overall. I don't know. I just don't think this even cracks the top 100 weird, unhealthy, or eyebrow-raising things we've seen the Duggars do!

[Churchhoney]

7 hours ago, floridamom said:

When was this photo taken? I think Jill looks pale and still tired. DDD needs a real orthodontist AND a nutritionist.

Hypocrites for eating PEPPERONI pizza.

Do we know for sure that all the adult kids buy into the pork rule? Seems as if I never heard that except coming from Meeechelle, but I don't watch the show so I don't know for sure. In any case, though, it's not as if that rule has so much meaning that they'd be sure to keep following it. JB and M's whole pseudo-Old-Testament rule following is so random that I can see the married kids simply forgetting it quite quickly, especially if the spouses hadn't ever followed it before. 

1 hour ago, lianau said:

I've come up with another theory , when did they sue over the publication of the Josh files ?  Maybe tabloids are a bit iffy on them right now (more so than before ).

Or People had a low sales week when they had the last cover? (Jessa and Henry?) .... If that happened, it would sour the mags quite quickly. 

Edited July 30, 2017 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

I think eating in the car is odd, not crazy, but odd. The only time I eat in the car is when I'm on the run. In between errands, maybe while waiting for a prescription to be filled and while traveling.  Other than that I eat in the house or a restaurant. 

They very well could be at the pharmacy or waiting to pick up a sibling or something. Something that makes total sense. But one might think they hashtag that at well.

#hangry #careating #Dominos

[madpsych78]

Still no recent pic of the whole fam together.

[Churchhoney]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

I think eating in the car is odd, not crazy, but odd. The only time I eat in the car is when I'm on the run. In between errands, maybe while waiting for a prescription to be filled and while traveling.  Other than that I eat in the house or a restaurant. 

They very well could be at the pharmacy or waiting to pick up a sibling or something. Something that makes total sense. But one might think they hashtag that at well.

#hangry #careating #Dominos

I think car eating can be a highly regional thing. And certainly an idiosyncratic family-by-family thing. I know some people who eat in the car all the time -- any time they have a choice, really. 

[Guatemama3641]

Derek posted a pic on Instagram of him and Jill enjoying some  ribs a person dropped off for their lunch today. Jill is holding Samuel,  but Iz is nowhere to be found. Sorry I can't link it now. It was a couple hours ago.

Edited July 30, 2017 by Guatemama3641
I hit save too soon.

[madpsych78]

derickdillardThank you @ptoling for the delicious smoked ribs! They make a great Sunday lunch with #jillmdillard when we aren't   Jill isn't able to cook as easily after baby #samuelscottdillard ! Baby = baby back ribs! #ribs #sundaylunch

Fixed that for you, Derick. You didn't have a baby via C-section and you should be perfectly capable of cooking.

[Sew Sumi]

[GeeGolly]

Where are they and what is Jill sitting in?

[queenanne]

3 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

derickdillardThank you @ptoling for the delicious smoked ribs! They make a great Sunday lunch with #jillmdillard when we aren't   Jill isn't able to cook as easily after baby #samuelscottdillard ! Baby = baby back ribs! #ribs #sundaylunch

Fixed that for you, Derick. You didn't have a baby via C-section and you should be perfectly capable of cooking.

I'm starting to think Cathy did all the household cooking.

Which, so did my mother, but my father can manage things like grilled cheese and tomato soup on his own, and can certainly do the other cooking with instruction, as could Derick with Jill steering if the latter's arms are full up with Baby.

[Sew Sumi]

I guess this means they're not going to church yet. 

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Where are they and what is Jill sitting in?

They are at home. Looks like Jill is in a recliner.

Edited July 30, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[JoanArc]

2 hours ago, CatS said:

To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe the kids are back there sleeping in their car seat

No, the kids don't go on these narcissistic little jaunts. Hell, JimBob and Michelle's kids were literally being molested at home while they went out to eat.

 

2 hours ago, queenanne said:

While I grant it may not indicate a specific eating disorder, isn't "eating food in secret" a single facet of more than one eating disorder?  I think Jill could definitely be said to have "food issues" based upon their prior statements

I can give Jill a pass, issues aren't disorders. She grew up two steps from being on the Rodriguez permadeprived diet. The picture is bad because it's tacky.