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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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16 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

First Derick - Fuck-you.

He responded to someone calling him out on his ridiculous Tweet by saying, "Then include all students equally."

First Derick, this isn't an election. Second what do you mean by "all students equally"? You want some parents who are pro NRA to "use their kids" to push your agenda?

And Derick, putting a young child in an anti-pro choice shirt is awful. Either you're "using them" or you're explaining to them your views, in what I would guess in a scary and horrid way. Nothing right about either of those scenarios.

And in case you didn't hear me the first time - Fuck-you Derick.

 

Ooooohhh, I love it when you get feisty! And you certainly have good reason. 

I'm glad you mentioned the thing about those little kids wearing those t-shirts, in particular. How do you explain to a child what Roe v. Wade stands for or what an abortion is? I don't want to think about it. I guess the best that can be hoped for is that the kids got no explanation at all and their parents just popped them into their little t-shirts to exploit them in furtherance of their political/moral agenda. Just like Derrick claims is being done with Jazz. But since the parents are on the right side of the issue, it's okay.

Obviously, it's the epitome of a hypocritical double standard.  Some people were pointing this out on his twatter but he hadn't responded last time I looked.  I'm guessing he is taking time to craft the perfect non-answer to intentionally leave everyone baffled like he always does. The little chicken shit.

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21 hours ago, SnarkyShark said:

I have no idea which Duggar kid it is, but the one on the left closest to the camera cracks me up. With his hands on his hips and his beret, he is trying to make that t-shirt "survivable". Newsflash: there is no way to make it cool. At all. 

Yea I think he and his later in life partner will one day look back at that photo and say, wow darlin' you look FABULOUS!!! 

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Hey Duffus, doesn't the bible say, But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. Which would mean he would have Jazz and all the kids from the Florida shooting with him and not judge them.  I'm not even Christian and even I have heard that.  Meaning you are a horrific Christian.  And with your tweets against teens on social media, which newsflash, is MEDIA, I'm wondering how many CPS agents are already looking at you.

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3 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

Hey Duffus, doesn't the bible say, But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. Which would mean he would have Jazz and all the kids from the Florida shooting with him and not judge them.  I'm not even Christian and even I have heard that.  Meaning you are a horrific Christian.  And with your tweets against teens on social media, which newsflash, is MEDIA, I'm wondering how many CPS agents are already looking at you.

I hope a lot. 

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First Derick, this isn't an election. Second what do you mean by "all students equally"? You want some parents who are pro NRA to "use their kids" to push your agenda?

This is exactly what he means, IMO.

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Guess Derick went on a deleting spree while at work today ? 

For a guy with a job, he spends an awful lot of time on his phone, doesn't he? 

 

....AND goes to Ministry School, AND has 2 kids under 3.  Oy! I guess that just for him Jesus took the laws of physics and bet them so that Derrick has 36 hours in a day instead of our 24!

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On 3/1/2018 at 5:16 PM, bigskygirl said:

The think Jill's clinginess started from the first minute she saw him. I mean she could not let him have lunch by himself. Did she actually believe the women he worked with were out to snatch him from her. Like he is a great catch even after they got married. It makes me think the Duggars had a clue Josh was actually cheating on Anna long before the second scandal hit the fan. Of course they were in denial and total ignorance because *gasp* Josh looking at porn was considered a worse scandal than the fact he molested Jill.

Just devil's advocate here: How do we know that Derrick didn't expect her to bring him a home made lunch every day?

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5 minutes ago, MamaMax said:

Just devil's advocate here: How do we know that Derrick didn't expect her to bring him a home made lunch every day?

Possible, but... that's a rather odd expectation to have for anyone ever isn't it? Your wife bringing you lunch doesn't make much sense in any context. Even if you want to live by traditional gender roles where the wife does all the cooking, historically this would involve either the husband bringing a meal cooked by the wife to work, or in some places going back home mid-day to eat a lunch cooked by the wife. A traditional housewife wouldn't be able to leave her household duties every day for hours and nevermind I'm talking about the Duggars go back to your regular scheduling and just forget I said anything. How about them Yankees, eh?

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To be honest about, I seriously doubt it because Jill could not spend five minutes without him being around. Nope...Jill's actions after saying I do speaks louder than words. I would not be surprised if she push him to leave Wal Mart or was a factor in why he was let go.

2 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Jill has to make him a damn sandwich or he'll look elsewhere for his sandwich-making needs. Duh.

I forgot about that! I am still trying to picture a normal woman who goes out in the real world and has a real job finding Derelict attractive enough to have an affair with him. I could picture him looking at porn and hooking up with ladies on the internet like Josh did with a fake profile.

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4 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

 Nope...Jill's actions after saying I do speaks louder than words. I would not be surprised if she push him to leave Wal Mart or was a factor in why he was let go.

I forgot about that! I am still trying to picture a normal woman who goes out in the real world and has a real job finding Derelict attractive enough to have an affair with him. I could picture him looking at porn and hooking up with ladies on the internet like Josh did with a fake profile.

Hmm, maybe something happened in Central America.  Did a women, blind and deaf most likely, flirt with the American male?  Did the women there wear too much NIKE wear and it led to Derrick not getting Jeramy's speech on masturbation?  Thus making Jill even more insecure?

And I can totally see both Jill and Jim Bob, telling Derrick that he can't work for the man at Walmart and we've seen the webpage of walmart customers and the way they dressed so Jill was probably terrified about what her husband would see there.  I know, there's been a few times I wanted brain bleach from what I've seen in a walmart - thank Merlin they now do 2 day shipping.  But what would have happened if one of Derrick's co-workers or a boss was gay or Muslim, or the horror - an atheist.  

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1 hour ago, IntoTheMystic said:

Every single time I think Derp Dillweed can't possibly climb higher on The Douchebag Scale ... he raises the bar himself and leaves all his competitors in the dust. He is The Deputy of Douchebaggery. The Grand Poobah of Preaching Hate. The Ambassador of Asshattery. The Gangster of Grift. The Lieutenant of Lunatic. The Sergeant of Suck. And The Major of Moronic Men: Worldwide Charter. You would think someone so full of win wouldn't have time to spew his idiocy almost daily ... but you would think wrong. 

It would be hard to explain how much I dislike this Corporal Of Cretins. 

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I know pop up ads are based on what you are looking at. I just got one in this thread for a local job fair. How appropriate,  maybe I should forward it to Der. it cracked me up. 

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22 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

I would not be surprised if she push him to leave Wal Mart or was a factor in why he was let go.

I've never understood the widespread theory that Jill was being this desperately clingy wife who showed up with Derrick's lunch everyday and contributed to making Wal-Mart fire him. Is it that big of a deal? What's the harm? Does she perch on the edge of his desk and get in the way? Or hand out bible tracts in the employee lunchroom and piss people off? And do we know the reason she went there every day was because she was lonely and it was all based on her neediness and not on Derrick's? 

I could see her constant presence being seen as weird or a little awkward by the other employees but not really something that might contribute to  Derrick actually losing his job. I mean, who cares if he eats lunch with his wife?

Of course it's possible that Derrick just sucked at his job and was a bad all around employee. Maybe her presence was what put it over the edge, I dunno. I guess I have just worked alongside too many horrible, unprofessional, incompetent people who managed to keep their jobs to think something like your wife showing up for some leftover ham salad can really be the straw that broke the camel's back. 

I think what it boils down to is if Derrick had been a good employee, they would have kept him and put up with Jill or at least had him put a stop to her showing up every day. The ultimate reason he was (probably) fired was because of his own poor job performance. I can't see Jill having been that big of a factor.

And for all anyone knows, Jill showed up every day because she knew Derrick was absolutely miserable at his job and she was trying to provide some kind of support to him. Because if he didn't like her coming there or it was some kind of problem for the company,  he would have put a stop to it.  He apparently never did. It seems just as possible that her showing up at Walmart every day was as much his idea as it was hers, and not just something Jill did because she was lonely. 

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If Jill showing up every freaking day he was at work started affecting his work performance, you bet it his boss would have said something about it. I have worked in places where spouses, family or friends constantly showing up affected certain employee's work performance to the point their fellow co-workers were not happy about it. I am sure Derick's co-workers thought it was interesting at first Jill showed up everyday, but after awhile they were not too amused about it anymore especially if they had to pick the slack because he was spending too much time trying to appease Jill because she was lonely. I know women who would call their boyfriend or husband's place of work because they were checking up on him to make sure he was not cheating. I even know one woman who actually called his house, the place he worked at, and a few of his co-workers at home because he was not at work one night. I often wonder if Derick did not think too much about it at first or actually thought it was sweet she was showing up every work day or had to drive him back and forth to work, and after awhile thought she was being a little too clingy. She and JB also were probably pushing him to quit which could have lead to poor work habits on his part. I think it was a Jill being Miss Cling Along, JB and Jill pushing him to quit his job, his lousy work habits, not being happy about his marriage and his life, and being a total ass lead to him getting the axe because I do not believe he just decided to quit one day.

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... I thought the story was that she just came in and brought him his lunch. I don't know for sure that she necessarily even sat with him while he ate. I'm not entirely sure why anyone  he worked with would care either way, really. I admit I'm envisioning a big impersonal lunch room where her presence just wouldn't make that big of a difference, but who knows.  Maybe Walmart does seat assignments for dinner like they do on a cruise ship and people got tired of having to shoehorn Jill in at their table, lol. 

Seriously, though ...I've never heard anything about her making a bunch of phone calls during the day that impacted his job performance or annoyed his coworkers. And there is zero evidence Jill ever called Derrick's co-workers at home to check up on him. That hasn't even been rumored as far as I know. I don't deny her calling him at work is a possibility. But just like her showing up with lunch every day,  it would have been easy enough for Derrick to put a stop to - - if he wanted to, that is.

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I thought I saw a few pictures of them eating in the car at lunch time. I think she even had a few of her siblings go with her when she went to pick him up. I would not be surprised if she did call him at work because she missed him, but I bet she thought some of his female co-workers had the hots for him. I for one could not picture any of them thinking he was attractive, but I am sure Jill has been drilled into believing any female could have the secret hots for Derick. She did not want him working for someone else, so I would be surprised if she was plotting to get him fired. I think he humor her at the beginning about having lunch everyday with him while he was at work to keep the peace, and the fact she was pregnant because he did not want an unhappy Jill. It might have pleased his ego at first, but I would not be surprised if he started hating it after awhile especially if she was bringing one or more siblings with her at lunch time or taking him back and forth to work. She probably even sat outside the bathroom at home when he was in there because she was so lonely and clingly.

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I recall Jill saying how she missed him when he went to work.  How he was gone all day...this work stuff really bothered her and I would imagine that is why he quit  Why go out and work all day when you can film a bit and grift.

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I always thought Derrick leaving Walmart had more to do with him taking leaves of absence all the time for the purpose of his wedding and honeymoon, then filming, other people's weddings, more filming etc. I remember it being discussed that new employees would normally not be able to take so much time off in their first year and that his collegues and supervisors might have had to pick up his slack quite a bit because of it. It might also have kept him from developing the skills needed for the job, if he wasn't there as much as he should have,

Also, there was a post elsewhere supposedly made by a fellow Walmart employee, claiming that Derrick apparently had some issues working with female collegues and supervisors (no idea if this was legit, but as a newly incorporated Duggar I think Derrick enthusiastically adopted a lot of their beliefs in the beginning, so I don't find it unlikely) which would also make him a problematic employee.

Add an over-enthusiastic wife keeping him from bonding with his fellow workers and I could see how Derrick could have been both unpopular enough and unproductive to the point where management figured he wasn't worth the hassle and just dropped him.

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17 minutes ago, Vaysh said:

Also, there was a post elsewhere supposedly made by a fellow Walmart employee, claiming that Derrick apparently had some issues working with female collegues and supervisors 

I remember that post and it sounds plausible.  Also, I wouldn't doubt that Derick may have been proselytizing on the job.

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I think this:

 

17 minutes ago, Vaysh said:

I always thought Derrick leaving Walmart had more to do with him taking leaves of absence all the time for the purpose of his wedding and honeymoon, then filming, other people's weddings, more filming etc. 

 

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21 minutes ago, sheshark said:

Why go out and work all day when you can film a bit and grift.

 

= the real reason Derrick no longer works for Wal-Mart.

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We've all seen how assholish and evasive Derick is - that's enough. Plus good lady Walmart was treated like side pussy by Derick from day one for his real love - reality television. It's not hard to see why it didn't work out. No Jill needed.

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I wonder how long it took for Derick to have issues working with his female collegues and thinking they were tempting him too much aka Jill and JB telling him he needs to quit because *gasp* those naughty females are out to get Delelict and lure him into doing some bad evil things. I think he probably would have been fired from Wal Mart anyway because lets face it, he is a lazy, obnoxious, know it all, hypocritical ass.

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My recollection of the problem Derrick supposedly had working with women was that he had trouble accepting women as authority figures in the workplace. I don't think it was about them being tempting hussies who were defrauding him and trying to seduce him.

Am I remembering it wrong? What happened to that article? Is it still around here ?

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Before Derick started speaking in code, I'm pretty sure he said he quit Walmart because a "mission opportunity" came up.  And being the Christian Diva Dick that he is, his calling was far more important than supporting his family.

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3 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Before Derick started speaking in code, I'm pretty sure he said he quit Walmart because a  "mission opportunity" filming opportunity he  thought might lead to having his own show came up. 

Fixed that for ya, Kitten!

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10 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

My recollection of the problem Derrick supposedly had working with women was that he had trouble accepting women as authority figures in the workplace. I don't think it was about them being tempting hussies who were defrauding him and trying to seduce him.

Am I remembering it wrong? What happened to that article? Is it still around here ?

I thought the female employee said Derick thought he was being tempted by his female co-workers. The ironic thing was once they went to Danger America, the both of them were not on the show much. Of course now he is off the show for good. Not too smart Derelict! How is it working out for you now? Btw, I like the name Christian Diva Dick. It fits him to the letter.

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Wait, do we know that Derick was fired from Walmart? Not that I have trouble believing it, but I also have no problem believing that he chose to leave because of a combination of missionary dreams and pressure from Jill. 

19 hours ago, Vaysh said:

Possible, but... that's a rather odd expectation to have for anyone ever isn't it? Your wife bringing you lunch doesn't make much sense in any context. Even if you want to live by traditional gender roles where the wife does all the cooking, historically this would involve either the husband bringing a meal cooked by the wife to work, or in some places going back home mid-day to eat a lunch cooked by the wife. A traditional housewife wouldn't be able to leave her household duties every day for hours and nevermind I'm talking about the Duggars go back to your regular scheduling and just forget I said anything. How about them Yankees, eh?

Yeah, Jill bringing him lunch every day in addition to driving him to and from work AND using the company gym was likely her desire and idea and something they probably both enjoyed considering they didn't get to spend time together before getting married. Jill's on the record on being desperate for dick  marriage long before meeting Derick so was super enthusiastic to spend as much time as possible with her new husband; and awkward follower-who-desperately-wants-to-be-a-leader dork Derick was probably thrilled to be worshipped by a fundie princess. 

Derick's an asshole, but in the context of his married life and maybe even his in-person interactions in general? I highly doubt he has it in him to be all that forceful. That's why he's on twitter all the time...it's much easier to sound "commanding" behind a screen. No way could he say what he tweets to people's faces. He is, at heart, a coward using patriarchy to make him feel strong.

I'm inclined to think that he's actually quite sweet to Jill--they're on the same page on everything, anyway. 

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At my current job, one of my colleagues is being walked through the steps required for firing (one-on-one counseling regarding job requirements, documentation of issues, etc.). It's a time consuming process, and one of the things that I noticed is that there has been no improvement in my colleague's performance. If anything, he's become less productive, and he spends a lot of time making very public excuses for himself that involve blaming other people for his problems.

It's possible that the woman who posted about Derick's behavior at WalMart was experiencing something like this. My colleague comes from a culture that is not particularly respectful toward women, but I've only had issues with him recently when he has displayed open contempt for me when I've tried to help him. It may be that once it became clear to Derick that he was being pushed out of Wal-Mart that he started flailing around for excused about why it was someone else's fault and women are always a popular target . . .

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1 hour ago, sheshark said:

I recall Jill saying how she missed him when he went to work.  How he was gone all day...this work stuff really bothered her and I would imagine that is why he quit  Why go out and work all day when you can film a bit and grift.

This sounds the most likely. I guess growing up in a house where no one went anywhere for 8 hours would make a normal workday seem eternal.  Plus, the Duggar family standard that you never work fro anyone else, always own your own business. Jill was kind of mimicking Anna, who was always going over to the car lot during the day. 

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On 3/1/2018 at 10:00 PM, Celia Rubenstein said:

 

I'm glad you mentioned the thing about those little kids wearing those t-shirts, in particular. How do you explain to a child what Roe v. Wade stands for or what an abortion is?

 

Come visit DC next Jan. 19 and you'll see stuff that'll make your head spin. 

Phalanxes of children.

DuggarDillardom is part of a big culture percolating away there. My bet is that they're just as amazed and outraged by the culture I'm part of as I am by the culture they're part of. And of course it involves the children. This is the reason you have the children in that world. To create a great big generation to fight this battle. So...they're gonna wear shirts and carry signs.

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39 minutes ago, MamaMax said:

This sounds the most likely. I guess growing up in a house where no one went anywhere for 8 hours would make a normal workday seem eternal.  Plus, the Duggar family standard that you never work fro anyone else, always own your own business. Jill was kind of mimicking Anna, who was always going over to the car lot during the day. 

In the case of Anna, I would not be surprise if she or other Duggars knew Smugly Do Rite was cheating on her and looking at porn while he was at the car lot. She probably went over there to check up on him to make sure he was behaving himself. I still cannot believe they had no clue to what he was doing aka cheating, looking at porn, and hooking up with women by using a fake profile, and the molestation news would never come out. Talk about not being too bright.

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I think coming for lunch, meeting him at work, leaving for a set amount of time would be fine. My memory was that Jill drove him to work in the morning,  then waited in the car for lunch and then waited to go home, but I could be wrong. Does anyone else remember this?

Derick had missionary dreams from the beginning. He was in Nepal doing some vague type of missionacating when Jill met him.  He probably was happy about going to Central America. 

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27 minutes ago, Temperance said:

I think coming for lunch, meeting him at work, leaving for a set amount of time would be fine. My memory was that Jill drove him to work in the morning,  then waited in the car for lunch and then waited to go home, but I could be wrong. Does anyone else remember this?

Derick had missionary dreams from the beginning. He was in Nepal doing some vague type of missionacating when Jill met him.  He probably was happy about going to Central America. 

How long did all of this take? Did she sit in the parking lot between taking him to work, lunch time and waiting to go home. Did she not go home for those eight plus hours? I am a little confuse here. I remember one time she had one of the howlers with her when she picked him up from work. I cannot imagine a wife doing this five days a week every week. What a sad commentary on their married life. Come to think of it, I remember watching the scenes after they got married, and they were so awkward with each other. Married life Duggar style. I do not blame Jana and/or JD for wanting to avoid the trap known as a Duggar marriage.

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She went home after lunch. Someone had to get dinner on the table. You can't use the slow cooker every day.

I just remember it being such a waste to make three trips daily. 

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28 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Perhaps Derick wanted to be able to account for Jill’s time while he was at work, and not the other way around. Who knows with those two. 

I know this will probably get me a ticket to you know where, but what man in his right mind would find Jill attractive enough to steal her from Derelict. I think it was Jill and JB who had to keep a close eye on him. JB wants a son-on-law he can keep a semi tight leash on. The only one who he has not been able to control too much is Jeremy. In fact Jeremy and JB remind me of two angry male animals circling one each other in order to get control over the herd. The herd in their case is Jinger and future grandchildren.

Sorry for the grammar errors. Trying to read and type after cleaning my eye lids and using the eye ointment. My vision is a little blurry right now.

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On 2/28/2018 at 5:32 PM, Mollie said:

Oh, so Derick doesn't think social media counts.  So, he must think it's OK to use his kids to push his agenda on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.  I guess his version of Jesus preaches situational ethics.  Speaking of ethics, if Derick is supposed to be 'working', why is he spending so much time on Twitter?  That's like stealing a paycheck from your employer when you are goofing off while you are supposed to be working.

Well I now have a new person to follow.  These shirts are irritating.  Unless Jimboob stopped Michelle from aborting any of those kids they survived nothing.  Well some survived an abusive brother.  How about a shirt for that? Oh and Michelle apparently has survived Jimboobs halitosis.

On 2/28/2018 at 7:21 PM, Lunera said:

Of course he does. What a fucken loser and he keeps bringing up Jazz again. Seriously, the show just premiered and he's already out there bashing tlc once again. How many freaking times does Jilly have to come to the rescue with cute baby pictures? I heard she's still on the show, so at least now we know where their money is coming from and it's not from his "job".

BTW, just heard walmart just removed assault weapons and raised their buying age to 21, wonder if Cathy says anything about that. I'm sure she's still receiving money and Healthcare from Walmart, so probably not.

I am beginning to wonder if he is jealous that Jazz had the guts and family support to live her true life?  I mean really, why would this loser bother with Jazz all the effin time?  Dickweed, should you decide to live your life being true to yourself we promise we won't judge you.  Jazz may even be able to hook you up with some good doctors.

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8 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

I know this will probably get me a ticket to you know where, but what man in his right mind would find Jill attractive enough to steal her from Derelict. I think it was Jill and JB who had to keep a close eye on him. JB wants a son-on-law he can keep a semi tight leash on. The only one who he has not been able to control too much is Jeremy. In fact Jeremy and JB remind me of two angry male animals circling one each other in order to get control over the herd. The herd in their case is Jinger and future grandchildren.

Sorry for the grammar errors. Trying to read and type after cleaning my eye lids and using the eye ointment. My vision is a little blurry right now.

You are perfect. After all, you are a new bride. Your focus is on other things ... ?

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On 3/1/2018 at 6:40 AM, WhineandCheez said:

WRONG!! There were NO DINOSAURS! I went to a creation museum once and it had a case of fossils the pre-dated whatever date they decided Adam and Eve were created.  The exhibit actually said something to the ilk that !SATAN! made these fossils carbon date to before Adam and Eve.

 

Jilly Insta:  "Where has time gone, my baby is so big!"  First, cute Jilly/izzy shot.  2nd: Hon, your baby was ginormous and 2-yearr old looking at 3 months!

Tea out the nose!  I am very jelly you went to a creation museum.  I think it would be quite entertaining!

On 3/1/2018 at 9:40 AM, cdp73 said:

I'm beginning to wonder if part of his problem is jealousy.  The new season of Counting On is about to start without him and he's upset that other members of the family are still getting paid.  Maybe he's trying to sabotage the entire clan.*

*Yes, I realize he's probably not smart enough to do this and his Tweets are probably just whatever thought crosses his mind at the moment.

Nah, you may be onto something.  He has to get attention somehow and the show used to feed his ego.  Now he has been taken out like the contents of my cats dirty litterbox its driving him crazy.  No one is putting Baby in the corner!

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On 3/1/2018 at 11:00 AM, Celia Rubenstein said:

If I pulled up to a stoplight beside Derrick and saw him in the Cross Church van pecking away on his cell phone, I'm not sure I'd be able to stop myself from hurling my Big Gulp filled with Dr. Pepper against his window.  Then I'd flip them the bird, scream "Jazz rules!" and speed away 

I am hoping I can ride shotgun!

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1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

Well I now have a new person to follow.  These shirts are irritating.  Unless Jimboob stopped Michelle from aborting any of those kids they survived nothing.  Well some survived an abusive brother.  How about a shirt for that? Oh and Michelle apparently has survived Jimboobs halitosis.

I am beginning to wonder if he is jealous that Jazz had the guts and family support to live her true life?  I mean really, why would this loser bother with Jazz all the effin time?  Dickweed, should you decide to live your life being true to yourself we promise we won't judge you.  Jazz may even be able to hook you up with some good doctors.

He  bothers with Jazz for the same reason that many of the nation's other politically and theologically conservative fundies and evangelicals, especially the leadership, bring transsexuals into pretty much every conversation.

By their lights, the American Christian community must fight a win-or-die "war against transsexuals" or see this country's morality finally crater to absolutely nothing. It's the number one priority of most of these very conservative Christian leaders. I've spoken with conservative Christian law-school professors, among others, who speak of all this in exactly the same terms as Derick. They see fighting the phenomenon that brought us Jazz as a bitter war that they must wage against Satan to save humanity. They see it as the crusade of this generation. And they promote it. 

This doesn't have to be some psychological quirk or personal obsessions of Derick's -- although it might be that, too. He's following -- to a letter -- the revered leaders of his religious community. The stuff he says is word for word what they say. 

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I scrolled back through Jill's Instagram and geesh... I'd get sick of her shit real quick. Her whole damn day revolved around Derick. Driving him to work, making him lunch, eating lunch with him at work, preparing dinner, picking him up from work. He probably couldn't even say no to her because she start crying or get suspicious. Of course, after the baby came that all stopped when Derick quit.

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If Eve really was created from Adam's rib as the bible states, she would have been 100% genetically identical to him, including the sex chromosomes, making her the world's first trans women. You'd think Christians would support trans people, and gender confirmation treatments as following God's path of helping people be who they need to be.

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I had forgotten how much better Dreck looked before his jaw surgery. Even aside from his teeth being off center now, they look so huge and wide and out of proportion to the rest of his face. Granted I always tend to find narrow bites more attractive than wide ones, but his teeth look positively grotesque to me now. Plus he actually looked happy and reasonably pleasant back then.

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