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27 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Jill did not write this.  There are words with more than two syllables.  "Intentionality"?   Not a Jill word.

Oh, it's another of Derelict's masterpieces. 

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Ironically I read an article that predicted that divorce would rise after the pandemic. That being forced in a house and not allowed to leave is a real test for a marriage and one that a few would fail.  Also people will argue about if they washed their hands enough or whether the other person wasn't social distancing enough. It will put further strain on relationship problems that already exist. 

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8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

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Holy wow. I wonder if this is hype or if this woman actually got some truths out of Derick.

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Holy wow. I wonder if this is hype or if this woman actually got some truths out of Derick.

I predict some Derelict double talk with some legalese thrown in. We have all been teased with his truths before. But it would be awesome if he outsmarted himself and actually revealed something.

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 Reddit  has already verified that Jills Netflix picture is lifted off of Pinterest. Give credit where it’s due, Jilly Muffin. At least you didn’t have that open flame on your bed. Given your safety record, the house would’ve burned down during lotion time.

 I love how this retelling the story also left out that the fancy Italian restaurant they were going to was closed and waffle house was their second choice. 

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Haven’t watched it, I’m at work.

 

 

 


Another one:

 

 

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I watched to 2/3 of it.  Nothing really new. Derreck claims to have a gay frat brother but he still in contact with. It was very much in the tone of “I have black friends”.

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3 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

I cannot believe I am about to watch these... But here we are. 

On behalf of those of us who refuse to give that toothy bastard clicks, I appreciate your sacrifice. 

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21 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

That lady does not have a great reputation on social media. 

I know nothing about her, but I've watched a couple of her videos and...maybe I'm just too cynical about these people, but I think she's way too generous in her interpretations of their motivations. It's like JB is the Big Evil (which, yes he is), and therefore everyone who publicly disagrees with him is a saint. Derick's treatment of Jazz is all about his concern for the exploitation of children, according to her. And Amy was horribly used by the show without compensation, ignoring the fact that she has actively tried to to get fame for herself by using her connection to a famous family. 

I don't think this youtuber's motivations are suspect, but she definitely has an extreme case of tunnel vision and it makes it impossible to take her seriously on the subject of the Duggars. 

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I don't want to give them clicks. But because I am a contract truther, I want to know what, if any, BS Derick claims about TLC contracts now in that interview. 🙂 Please and thank you!

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7 minutes ago, Zella said:

I don't want to give them clicks. But because I am a contract truther, I want to know what, if any, BS Derick claims about TLC contracts now in that interview. 🙂 Please and thank you!

He mentioned he wasn’t allowed to announce the pregnancies, the gender of his children, and engagement etc.  He also mentioned that he wanted TLC to pay for Israel’s birth, even though they were volunteers. So basically they were volunteers That wanted to be paid after the fact. Jill also had a contract. Jill is also a volunteer.

 He mentioned that women could have short hair, piercings, and wear pants, and that his mom was moral and still wore pants modestly.  He mentioned that the boys could pursue whatever passions they wanted and we’re allowed to seek higher education.  He mentioned that it is not a sin to drink alcohol according to the Bible, just to be drunk is a sin. He mentioned he has drank alcohol but didn’t go into detail. It implied Jill had not had alcohol ever. 

 It’s honestly just more of the same from him. She did mention that more will come out when Derreck feels comfortable about talking about it. She also didn’t ask any direct questions about the whole Jazz thing.  The parts of this interview I listened to any of us here could’ve written up. A great big ball of nothing.

No mention of the hilariously opaque family ministry charity, or their time in danger America in the parts I listened to.

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Just now, JoanArc said:

He mentioned he wasn’t allowed to announce the pregnancies, the gender of his children, and engagement etc.  He also mentioned that he wanted TLC to pay for Israel’s birth, even though they were volunteers. So basically they were volunteers That wanted to be paid after the fact. Jill also had a contract. Jill is also a volunteer.

 I mention that women could have short hair, piercings, and wear pants, and that his mom was moral and still wore pants modestly.  He mentioned that the boys could pursue whatever passions they wanted and we’re allowed to seek higher education.  He mentioned that it is not a sin to drink alcohol according to the Bible, just to be drunk is a sin. He mentioned he has drank alcohol but didn’t go into detail. It implied Jill had not had alcohol ever. 

 It’s honestly just more of the same from him. She did mention that more will come out when Derreck feels comfortable about talking about it. She also didn’t ask any direct questions about the whole Jazz thing.  The parts of this interview I listen to any of us here could’ve written up. A great big ball of nothing.

No mention of the hilariously opaque family ministry charity, or their time in danger America in the parts I listened to.

Very interesting--thank you! Sounds like a pure softball interview, but I can't see him consenting to a more rigorous questioning. 

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15 minutes ago, Zella said:

Very interesting--thank you! Sounds like a pure softball interview, but I can't see him consenting to a more rigorous questioning. 

 A wadded up ball made out of banana bread. He really seems like the kind of person that’s just gonna rehash the same shit with spicy new detail here and there for the next 30 years. We’ve got a new financial crisis a new reality thanks to the virus, I don’t think anyone is going to be very interested in his story for much longer so he better shit or get off the pot. It’s never going to happen.

 

 He also mentioned that it is a shame that Amy cannot speak about what she wants to speak about. Every answer was generic like that. 

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1 minute ago, JoanArc said:

 A wadded up ball made out of banana bread. He really seems like the kind of person that’s just gonna rehash the same shit with spicy bowl detail here in there for the next 30 years. We’ve got a new financial crisis a new reality thanks to the virus, I don’t think anyone is going to be very interested in his story for much longer so he better shit or get off the pot. It’s never going to happen.

 

 He also mentioned that it is a shame that Amy cannot speak about what she wants to speak about. Every answer was generic like that. 

He's got to up the specifics in his shitstirring if he wants to write a book. 🤣

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She also mentioned that Derick said Jill wanted to stop doing the show when the In Touch reports were released but were told they were legally obliged to keep going.

It was so effing painful to hear her sloooooooooooooooooowly recite everything we snarkers know already. Yes Josh touched his sisters. Yes the Oprah staffer sent in the tip. Yes the lawsuit against the three individuals in Springdale is still ongoing. Get to the point. 

It does make me wonder. Apparently their relationship suffered under the strain of being filmed. But their entire relationship was broadcast to the world up until they were voted off the island. How do they have a comparison point?

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He also mentioned that they had done counseling with a licensed therapist and recommended the book on boundaries that Jill once posted about. He didn't offer much more about the estrangement. 

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4 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

She also mentioned that Derick said Jill wanted to stop doing the show when the In Touch reports were released but were told they were legally obliged to keep going.

It was so effing painful to hear her sloooooooooooooooooowly recite everything we snarkers know already. Yes Josh touched his sisters. Yes the Oprah staffer sent in the tip. Yes the lawsuit against the three individuals in Springdale is still ongoing. Get to the point. 

It does make me wonder. Apparently their relationship suffered under the strain of being filmed. But their entire relationship was broadcast to the world up until they were voted off the island. How do they have a comparison point?

So I'm still confused. They were volunteers, but legally obligated to film? The Oprah tip happened long before Derick.

And good point, they never knew dating without a camera crew.

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8 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

So I'm still confused. They were volunteers, but legally obligated to film? The Oprah tip happened long before Derick.

And good point, they never knew dating without a camera crew.

I imagine Boob gave them a steaming pile of crap about lawsuits to keep Jill in the fold. 

I'm still wondering who threatened Amy, but lawsuits seem to be Boob's jam, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was really him after all. I just want to know how he (or anyone) found out about the interview in the first place?

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2 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

She also mentioned that Derick said Jill wanted to stop doing the show when the In Touch reports were released but were told they were legally obliged to keep going.

It was so effing painful to hear her sloooooooooooooooooowly recite everything we snarkers know already. Yes Josh touched his sisters. Yes the Oprah staffer sent in the tip. Yes the lawsuit against the three individuals in Springdale is still ongoing. Get to the point. 

It does make me wonder. Apparently their relationship suffered under the strain of being filmed. But their entire relationship was broadcast to the world up until they were voted off the island. How do they have a comparison point?

The longer her video is, the more YouTube pays her for views. It took her five minutes to recap the story up to the creation of Counting On: Jill & Jessa, then I quit watching. I knew it would be a huge tease. 

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See I disagree with Katie's speculation that Derick not discussing Jill's consumption of alcohol means that Jill has never tried it. I think it means she HAS tried it, but that Derick did not want to put that out there lest it goes back to Boob.

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22 minutes ago, kokapetl said:

The longer her video is, the more YouTube pays her for views. It took her five minutes of to recap the story up to the creation of Counting On: Jill & Jessa, then I quit watching. I knew it would be a huge tease. 

Considering how YouTube is treating its content creators these days, it probably was a waste of her time to drag it out as much as she did. 

Wait until the Duggars find out about Patreon!

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9 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

See I disagree with Katie's speculation that Derick not discussing Jill's consumption of alcohol means that Jill has never tried it. I think it means she HAS tried it, but that Derick did not want to put that out there lest it goes back to Boob.

Jana, Jill, Jessa and Jinger accidentally drank (sipped?) punch with alcohol in it many years ago.

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1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

He also mentioned that they had done counseling with a licensed therapist and recommended the book on boundaries that Jill once posted about. He didn't offer much more about the estrangement. 

 I didn’t hear that part. Interesting that he had mentioned getting counseling, but I’m glad they did. They need to keep going back. At least it tell us everything wasn’t sunshine and roses behind the scenes. I bet Derreck wishes Jill could break out of some of the ingrained relationship habits are parents insisted or necessary to maintain a happy marriage. 

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 IIRC, several posters on here speculated Jill was in counseling based on the books she was reading. Gold stars for those who called it.

With regards to the lawsuit, is this the one stemming from Joshgate? I thought that was dismissed?

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It was dismissed at the county level. I guess they also brought action against the city?

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Josh’s lawsuits were all dismissed. The daughters had way better lawyers and their lawsuits against the state and county/city are still in progress, as far as I know. 

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I'm pretty sure that Washington County was vindicated with a dismissal.

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2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

So I'm still confused. They were volunteers, but legally obligated to film? The Oprah tip happened long before Derick.

And good point, they never knew dating without a camera crew.

I believe Katie is mixing up her facts, here.  Oprah was filming the family for her show when the producers received an anonymous tip about Josh molesting his sisters.  They turned the information over to law enforcement, but no one from the show tipped off the tabloids then or later.  As it turned out, since JB and Michelle had gone to the police after the statute of limitations had run out on Josh's crimes, the cops already knew what Oprah told them and the case was already closed.

Then, years later, after Derick and Jill were married, Michelle did some homophobic robocalls for a group that wanted to ban transgender folks from public restrooms.  Turns out, Josh' history was known by a lot of people in Tontitown, probably because Josh and the girls had to get up in front of their church and confess and some of those who were present spilled the beans.  In any event, a lesbian couple who knew the story were outraged that Michelle was presenting herself as the crusader for all that is pure and holy and they notified In Touch of the story, giving them enough details that the tabloid was able to put together a freedom of information request which netted them the police report which had not been sealed.

So, Katie conflated two separate incidents which doesn't say much for her reportorial skills.  I only listened to the first couple minutes because she is a horrible speaker and it was clear she had her facts wrong and also was going to waste a lot of time rehashing ancient history which indicated to me, anyway, that she probably didn't get anything juicy.

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1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'm pretty sure that Washington County was vindicated with a dismissal.

Yes. Now it is down to three people who were involved with the release of the documents and redacting. 

That one is easy to find on Google... Ugh...

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I made it 7 minutes with the first video before giving up. She just kept rehashing what she had already said and patting herself on the back for reaching out to Derick. Like everyone else posted, the only thing we didn't know about was that Derick & Jill went to counseling and that was speculated here. Definitely not worth watching.

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I can’t believe that all of the Duggar children and their spouses were stupid enough to believe that JB wasn’t getting paid by TLC. How did they think that their new house and lifestyle was being paid for? JB is a lying ass for sure, but why didn’t any of the non-Duggars who married into this mess have the sense to say WTF? Derrick, of all of them, should have had questions about what was going on. At least those over 18 and therefore able to sign contracts would have to have contracts with either JB or TLC that spelled this out. As adults they couldn’t be legally forced to stay on the show unless they had signed contracts -  they aren’t indentured servants (not legally at least). 
 

I’m all for Derrick exposing JB’s manipulative, underhanded dealings, but he really needs to take some responsibility for apparently just blindly signing contracts and NDAs, which I’m sure he did because they got houses/money from JB. He got a shitty deal, but he’s the one who agreed to the shitty deal in the first place.

ETA - I should like Derick for standing up to JB and bringing to light what we have suspected, but damn if he doesn’t just irk me to no end. 

 

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5 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

 

I never watch her videos but somehow I watched this one. I blame sheltering in place for more than two weeks. But the music she used for those... it had a beat! it had syncopation! it might lead to stirring up desires that could not be righteously fulfilled! I do think it's odd and maybe a marker of progress for Jill that the soundtrack was what it was.

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I'm stunned that Jill actually was seeing a licensed counselor! I figured she would be praying about it or some such.  Recovering from abuse is never easy, but with a licensed counselor, she's got some hope. 

Those haircuts are awful. 

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Who cuts a child's hair in their KITCHEN where they EAT?   Then they let the child brush the cut hair off onto the floor?

The patio is right outside, and the cut hair would blow off into the grass.  Where it wouldn't wind up in the FOOD!  

OMIGAWD, how can these idiots survive daily life?

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I'm glad Jill is in therapy. Whatever to the rest of the stuff Derick said, but I'm glad Jill is not alone and is getting professional help. 

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28 minutes ago, jcbrown said:

I never watch her videos but somehow I watched this one. I blame sheltering in place for more than two weeks. But the music she used for those... it had a beat! it had syncopation! it might lead to stirring up desires that could not be righteously fulfilled! I do think it's odd and maybe a marker of progress for Jill that the soundtrack was what it was.

27 minutes ago, jcbrown said:

I never watch her videos but somehow I watched this one. I blame sheltering in place for more than two weeks. But the music she used for those... it had a beat! it had syncopation! it might lead to stirring up desires that could not be righteously fulfilled! I do think it's odd and maybe a marker of progress for Jill that the soundtrack was what it was.

When the haircut music first started playing, I seriously thought it was Bob Dylan's Everyone Must Get Stoned!

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I think the boys look adorable with their new haircuts 

I cut my youngest son’s hair last week ..due to social distancing ... and believe me I do a bad haircut!

My son was all’Mummmy ..what DID YOU DO TO ME’

 

I also cut his hair in the open plan kitchen area 😳

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So this Katie person is getting paid by You Tube to air Derick's dirty laundry.

Uhm, Derick, if what you're saying about JB getting paid for your services is true, I guess you haven't learned much.

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