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Follow up tweet is saying KNWA is waiting for the US Attorney's office to send out the indictment. Will we know the charges then? Or will they continue to remain secret? How normal is that? 

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If the hearing is in Fayetteville, I'd not be surprised if it's before a magistrate (vs. a full-fledged federal judge). Magistrate Judges conduct hearings of that sort (advisements, bail hearings, other preliminary matters short of the full trial).

And . . . the Chief Magistrate Judge for the US District Court for the Western District of Arkansas - is a woman.  Who's listed as being located in Fayetteville. Take that, Mr. Patriarch JB Duggar.

Oh, and also - the Chief JUDGE of the US District Court for the Western District of Arkansas - is also a woman. Heh.

ETA: I was writing this when the news broke. Here are screenshots:

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2 minutes ago, IndianPaintbrush said:

It's something child-related, guys.

I am guessing this may be related to what likely was found on that seized computer?  If so Duggar can't be surprised that he's being charged.  

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Start sarcasm let the pedo go back to Jesus Jail it did wonders for him the last 2 times End sarcasm. 

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1 minute ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Oh shit. Related to kids. Can't be around kids. 

Well that pretty much rules out any Duggar dwelling. He’s going to have to go to a hotel. 

He’ll probably love it.

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I just have to say...I strongly suspected that it wasn't financial. Josh's past indiscretions were not financial (other than the real estate fraud thing, but that wouldn't be a federal issue necessarily). 

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So his bond hearing is May 5th at 1:30. So he'll be in jail at least till then, correct?

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1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

From the warehouse to the big house the Josh Duggar story

I'm kind of partial to "From The Family Research Council to the Big House" myself. 

As long as we're taking jerks and hypocrites down, let's take down as many -- and as big ones -- as we can. 

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What a shocker that Jesus Jail didn't cure him of his online addictions. Bet he was using his work computer because of limitations on his home computer.

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Just now, Madtown said:

So his bond hearing is May 5th at 1:30. So he'll be in jail at least till then, correct?

Yeah the reporting is saying he will be in jail until at least then. 

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That's a new one, arraigned on undisclosed charges?

No living with minors provision absolutely is a disturbing giveaway that the charges are child related. 

This explains so much of the recent abnormal behavior of so many family members, the bizarre Easter episode -- and why JD and Abbie in particular never spoke, etc.    The show is done.   The family is no doubt imploding.

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1 minute ago, Oldernowiser said:

Well that pretty much rules out any Duggar dwelling. He’s going to have to go to a hotel. 

He’ll probably love it.

Maybe he’ll have to stay at the icky house that is listed as his voting residence (the one with the indoor pool).

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Just now, Madtown said:

So his bond hearing is May 5th at 1:30. So he'll be in jail at least till then, correct?

Yes…if I read that correctly. 

I wonder how TLC feels now about letting Josh sneak back into their filming lately.

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So, those of you with experience in legal matters, how does he manage to have his charges not revealed publicly?

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I figured it wasn't a financial crime.  If that was the case, they would have gone after the head of the snake, Jim Bob Duggar~

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2 minutes ago, Tikichick said:

That's a new one, arraigned on undisclosed charges?

No living with minors provision absolutely is a disturbing giveaway that the charges are child related. 

This explains so much of the recent abnormal behavior of so many family members, the bizarre Easter episode -- and why JD and Abbie in particular never spoke, etc.    The show is done.   The family is no doubt imploding.

The news story that @Zella linked, said that the charges were not read out during the hearing at the request of Josh's lawyers. I'm sure the lawyers had a copy and know what the charges are. Now the reporters are having to wait to get a copy and read the charges for themselves. 

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Just now, Oldernowiser said:

So, those of you with experience in legal matters, how does he manage to have his charges not revealed publicly?

No legal experience but would it be because revealing the charges would involve naming minors as victims and they don't want to do that at this point?  No idea...

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6 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Oh shit. Related to kids. Can't be around kids. 

I literally had a wave of nausea come over me when I heard that.  This is absolutely the worst thing ever.

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Just now, WinnieWinkle said:

No legal experience but would it be because revealing the charges would involve naming minors as victims and they don't want to do that at this point?  No idea...

The charges wouldn't name anyone, though. 

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Just now, Jeeves said:

The news story that @Zella linked, said that the charges were not read out during the hearing at the request of Josh's lawyers. I'm sure the lawyers had a copy and know what the charges are. Now the reporters are having to wait to get a copy and read the charges for themselves. 

So, based on that, when KNWA gets a copy of the paperwork (which they are waiting on), they will know? 

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I am literally in tears. I was so hoping it wouldn’t be something involving children. Those poor kids, you guys. Just... those poor kids.

Children’s services had to get involved now, though, right? Someone is going to make Anna protect those kids? 

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It’s child pornography, possession and distribution. Someone will link to the indictment. It’s on Twitter now. 

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Just now, Jeeves said:

The news story that @Zella linked, said that the charges were not read out during the hearing at the request of Josh's lawyers. I'm sure the lawyers had a copy and know what the charges are. Now the reporters are having to wait to get a copy and read the charges for themselves. 

Ah, waived the reading of the information.  Gotcha.   

I so wish reporters assigned to covering legal matters were required to take a course familiarizing themselves with the basics. 

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If released on bail he can't be in a home with minors present?  

Guess Jeremiah will be getting a new roommate in the bunk bed house.

Not wanting to make light of this.  It is sickening.  Those poor kids.  

I can't even imagine how they are going to spin this one.  







 

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2 minutes ago, Zella said:

Yeah the reporting is saying he will be in jail until at least then. 

 

2 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Yes…if I read that correctly. 

I wonder how TLC feels now about letting Josh sneak back into their filming lately.

Thank you.
I really really hope he never gets bond, he just shouldn't if he has to stay away from minors. I hate thinking that there is a small chance that JB will be able to bail him out. If he does get bond and gets out, where is JB going to put him?

 

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4 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

So, those of you with experience in legal matters, how does he manage to have his charges not revealed publicly?

He's not managing that. The reporters are going to get a copy of the charges from the court. [ETA: charges were released as I was writing this.]

It's just that Josh's lawyers asked the judge not to read out the charges during the hearing, which basically has delayed disclosure of them to the general public.

I'm not up to speed on federal procedure but I assume this was an advisement hearing, and Josh had the right to have the charges read out to him by the magistrate judge. It was a good move by his lawyers to waive that reading IMO.

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8 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Well that pretty much rules out any Duggar dwelling. He’s going to have to go to a hotel. 

He’ll probably love it.

He may be staying at Chez Jed! 

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2 minutes ago, kstar821 said:

Anna needs to take those babies to Florida near her family and legally change their last name to Keller.

So sad for Anna.  

You know what, I’m really not sad for her. She’s closed her eyes and pretended all is well for a very long time. Did she really have zero clue as to what he was being so “diligent” about?

Their children, though…what a mess. Poor things have to grow up with this. 

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4 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

Maybe he’ll have to stay at the icky house that is listed as his voting residence (the one with the indoor pool).

i think they sold that one of anna 5 Llcs got the money. but maybe he can live at 500 arbor acres dr where matthew waller is registered to vote

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#BREAKING #JoshDuggar "Duggar is charged by indictment with receiving and possessing child pornography."

So, yeah, the computer gave his sleazy ways away.  Ugh.  I wonder what the penalty for this is in Arkansas?

 

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Charges have been made public that specifically name possession of Child Sexual Abuse Material, discussion of charges are allowed. However, discussion of victims, or possible victims (and their identities) related to these charges are NOT ALLOWED
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