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20 hours ago, ginger90 said:

If I have the county correct, the TTH is in Washington where the sales tax is 10.50%.

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WOW!  So sales tax is a lot higher in this low tax state than the one I live where conservatives are always talking about our high taxes.  

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On 8/5/2019 at 11:28 PM, fonfereksglen said:

She home schools.  Despite her flaws, she may instill some excitement in a new school year by buying new school supplies and clothes for her brood.  

I was thinking, this/a sense of ceremony would probably be the principle.  Marking their own quiet little milestones, etc.

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 Is that picture taken at family camp? What a room full of sullen looking beta males , with Jim Bob hovering behind them. Josh’s boys look terrified.  90% of the body language of those men screams help me. 

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Yeah, they were at Family Camp. That's where Joy got that pic with the bros. 

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1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yeah, they were at Family Camp. That's where Joy got that pic with the bros. 

 In the middle of the week? Don’t they have jobs.....never mind!

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Everyone in the background looks sullen and miserable. Fort Rock must be a barrel of good times....

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Ugh, Man Camp. I shudder.

It's not that I have a problem with the guys in a family hanging out or the girls having a night out. I shudder when thinking of what they're being taught because they're males and what manly interpretation of "God's Word" they're hearing.

I shudder.

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The Duggars seem to be the camp's best customers. And you know it's all comped. How do the Forsyths make any money? It's not as if the place was packed.

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7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

The Duggars seem to be the camp's best customers. And you know it's all comped. How do the Forsyths make any money? It's not as if the place was packed.

It's mid-August in Arkansas. I checked weather.com for Fort Rock's location. Looks like highs in the low 90's with fairly high relative humidity. Probably not peak tourist season so a good time to host the grifting in-laws. I doubt Mr. Forsyth would have turned away paying customers to host herp-derp JB's crew for free or cheap. 

Although come to think of it, the place sounds kind of grim. It might appeal to serious fundies. But if its main appeal is to the fundies who have a quiverfull of kids, only one modest income to stretch to cover the family living expenses, and not much if anything left over to take the family out to some fundie dude ranch? That's not a great business plan, although apparently Forsyth has been making a go of it, with all his free family labor. I wonder if Joy's expected to pitch in now that she's one of the family. Wouldn't surprise me.

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She was there during Man Week. 

Also, in one of Smuggar's pics, there's a group of boys sitting behind the young Duggars. This week(end?) wasn't set up exclusively for Boob and his progeny.

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1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

4 pictures:

Ugh, I did not need to see the second of those four pictures on top! That is way too much Smuggar for me!

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What do they do at woman camp? Give each other social media tips and the best places to find early pregnancy tests?

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18 minutes ago, babyhouseman said:

What do they do at woman camp? Give each other social media tips and the best places to find early pregnancy tests?

How to stare at your headship adoringly even when he's saying the dumbest things.

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In every picture, except the one where he’s riding the horse, that older boy looks so anxious like he’s just waiting to make a wrong move and get in trouble for it. Poor boy. I hope he enjoyed that horseback ride.

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I seems to recall similar pictures a few years back at this same men's camp.  They all looked shell-shocked and dead behind the eyes then too.  WTF goes on at these "camps"??

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Well, the Duggars have often been guest speakers at various "camps" there, so that should pretty much answer your question.

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5 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

The Duggars seem to be the camp's best customers. And you know it's all comped. How do the Forsyths make any money? It's not as if the place was packed.

The Forsyths were involved in the Greece missioncation with Lauren Caldwell, Jason, and Madi Nicole. I imagine they were compensated accordingly for herding a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds and keeping them from sinning. Plus they host a lot of "retreats" at Fort Rock and rely on seemingly free labor. This year's schedule looks barren compared to previous years though. 

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I wonder if Man Camp is part of Dwain Swanson's (Si's father in-law) and Will Peters's (Michelle's nephew) ministry. It's the first I heard of "Man Camp".  Their ministry is called "Courageous Men of the Word". Will Peters mentions it in his biography:

"Recently I was encouraged by Dwain and some of my brothers in our group after a man camp to step out in faith and move 450 miles away from home to do the job of my dreams. So I prayed about it and felt the Lords hand of direction on our family. I now work on airplanes installing avionics removing old instruments and updating the airplane with the latest equipment. Previously during the day I worked at a drainage pipe manufacturing company, working in the machine shop. I programmed and ran a CNC milling machine making specialty parts for the equipment used in the manufacturing of corrugated plastic pipe.

I grew up on a small farm in south western Ohio about 40 miles outside Cincinnati. We raised animals and crops.

My parents were new Christians coming to know the Lord while in high school. When I was young my mother was my Sunday school teacher and one Sunday in the summer at the age of 6 years old, because of a message she taught from the Bible, I realized that I was a sinner headed for Hell, I repented of my sin and was saved. Later on in my high school years after a missionary came and spoke at our church and I felt like the Lord was leading to study and go to the mission field. So I went to a Christian college and studied Missionary Aviation. I received my mechanics and pilots licenses. After school things didn’t happen the way you would expect and because of some life changing events I didn’t go to the mission field. It took me awhile to realize that God plans are better than any of my plans. He allowed the circumstances in my life to mould me and shape me into an instrument to be used for his service.

I’m thankful to the Lord for a loving wife (Angela) and four children he has blessed me with. Luke, Jacob, Evan, and Emily. One of my favorite verses tells of God’s power.

Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

You might say the answer to this verse is found in Matthew 19:26 (another favorite verse), but Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
I love the hope these verses give us in the seemingly impossible situations of our life."

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Can someone forward this testimony to Timothy Rodrigues? He confidently skins over what the life circumstances were that stalled his aviation career. I'm betting on wife at 21, first baby at 22. Second at 23…

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10 hours ago, Temperance said:

I was young my mother was my Sunday school teacher and one Sunday in the summer at the age of 6 years old, because of a message she taught from the Bible, I realized that I was a sinner headed for Hell, I repented of my sin and was saved.

I wonder what the message was that she taught and what sort of sin a 6 year old committed that convinced them they were headed for Hell? 

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17 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Ugh, Man Camp. I shudder.

It's not that I have a problem with the guys in a family hanging out or the girls having a night out. I shudder when thinking of what they're being taught because they're males and what manly interpretation of "God's Word" they're hearing.

I shudder.

As a former fundie, I share your shudder and shed a tear 

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18 hours ago, ginger90 said:

4 pictures:

Man camp....MAN CAMP!??! Are these folks for real? What about "just go have a good time without labeling every damn thing boy or girl camp"

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But being a boy is uber special. And Man Camp is even more special. No icky feeble minded girls allowed. Never mind if not for the girls the human race would die out.

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The name Man Camp makes me think they're going to learn stuff like how to use power tools and fix a tire. LOL

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1 minute ago, Zella said:

The name Man Camp makes me think they're going to learn stuff like how to use power tools and fix a tire. LOL

With Tim Allen as the featured speaker!

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Josh should be in man camp=prison for what he'd done. Instead he gets to drag his bloated body and his progeny to camp/vacation! Yay being a rich Duggar.

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3 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

With Tim Allen as the featured speaker!

From what I've seen recently, he'd for right in.😕

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8 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

But being a boy is uber special. And Man Camp is even more special. No icky feeble minded girls allowed. Never mind if not for the girls the human race would die out.

Something they all seem to forget.... 

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Anna Duggar was a big fan of the movie War Room. I'm seeing ads for a movie called Overcomer, which is made by the makers of War Room. 

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7 hours ago, Temperance said:

Anna Duggar was a big fan of the movie War Room. I'm seeing ads for a movie called Overcomer, which is made by the makers of War Room. 

I went to the movies last week.  Saw Yesterday (excellent) and The Art of Racing in the Rain (pretty good, book was a lot better).  Saw a preview for Overcomer and it is clearly in the same vein as Fireproof and War Room.  The trailer is typical inspirational movie stuff.  Guy is a high school coach who for whatever reason, can't coach the team sport he loves and is instead made track coach, which is a sport he hates.  Only one kid, a young black girl tries out for the team.  Through prayer and God, everything works out in the end.  Everybody finds the Lord and is happy ever after. Yadda, yadda.

I can see why Anna likes these kinds of movies, aside from the fact they are probably the only ones she ever sees.  In them, the godly ones who read the Bible, pray and follow the Lord's will end up living happily ever after because of their faith.  I imagine that's the only way she can continue on being married to Josh, she expects that same happy ending for herself.  I think she's delusional.

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The Christian film industry is booming, if my the cinema in my smallish Southern city is any indication. As often as not, one of our twelve screens is occupied by something that looks decidedly inspirational. (My husband and I inevitably run into church friends in the lobby, and the convo usually goes like this: THEM: "Oh, did you see Overcomer?" US: "Nah, we saw Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood. We're more, um, Tarantino people.") If Anna wants to seem cool by recommending "mainstream" movies--almost as if she's, you know, culturally literate--she's got a lot of mediocre Christian films to choose from. 

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13 minutes ago, Portia said:

The Christian film industry is booming, if my the cinema in my smallish Southern city is any indication. As often as not, one of our twelve screens is occupied by something that looks decidedly inspirational. My husband and I inevitably run into church friends in the lobby, and the convo usually goes like this: THEM: "Oh, did you see Overcomer?" US: "Nah, we saw Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood. We're more, um, Tarantino people." 

I buy these movies for my library and they stay checked out for at least 1-2 months once they come in.  I have no idea which ones to buy, so I just go with the ones that make me gag the least when reading the descriptions.  I will never watch any of these movies for a variety of reasons, but I do have to give the taxpayers what they want.  The only hard no's for me have been Gosnell and Unplanned--there is a difference between inspirational films and propaganda.  

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1 hour ago, Portia said:

The Christian film industry is booming, if my the cinema in my smallish Southern city is any indication. As often as not, one of our twelve screens is occupied by something that looks decidedly inspirational. (My husband and I inevitably run into church friends in the lobby, and the convo usually goes like this: THEM: "Oh, did you see Overcomer?" US: "Nah, we saw Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood. We're more, um, Tarantino people.") If Anna wants to seem cool by recommending "mainstream" movies--almost as if she's, you know, culturally literate--she's got a lot of mediocre Christian films to choose from. 

I am FB friends with a Christian author and she saw Once Upon a Time..... she also watches very non-Christian TV like Walking Dead. I don't watch inspirational films, I find most of them are pretty crappy, lousy acting, boring and heavy handed. 

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There's also a Christian streaming company called PureFlix. Based on their YouTube ads, they may be offering content they produce.

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The Duggars have only ever seen Razzie worthy movies, not Oscar worthy movies. I'm not sure Anna and co would know what a well directed, well written, or well acted film would look like. 

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3 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:

Jill teaches sex education.

While the ladies rest their loins from the 5 - 6 times a week joyfully available pincushion sex.

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4 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:

Jill teaches sex education.

Does she hawk scented body lotion as well? 

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I see Jackson in Michael. 

Did they sell their house?  Does anyone know where they are living?

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Good heavens, is that Josie in the first picture impersonating Lizzie Borden but using a hammer instead of an ax?!

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