Jessa, Ben and Their Brood: Making a (Diaper) Mountain out of a Mold House

[CalicoKitty]

I have a friend who needed inexpensive insurance to fill the gap until she qualified for Medicare.  She ended up using one of these programs, and there was a lot they did not pay for.  The were also very strict.  You had to stay within certain parameters or they wouldn't pay.  It was better than having nothing, but I'm not sure the frustration was worth it.  She was very happy when she could leave them.  

[Notabug]

3 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I have a friend who needed inexpensive insurance to fill the gap until she qualified for Medicare.  She ended up using one of these programs, and there was a lot they did not pay for.  The were also very strict.  You had to stay within certain parameters or they wouldn't pay.  It was better than having nothing, but I'm not sure the frustration was worth it.  She was very happy when she could leave them.  

It seems like many of them also demand that their policyholders approach medical facilities and caregivers and ask for their bills to be written off or deeply discounted based on their use of a Christian based non-insurance plan.  It seemed that a lot of them required proof that the client had done the requisite begging and got turned down before even considering paying for the care.  I would think that a lot of their clients found this requirement difficult.

On at least a couple of occasions, I have been approached by patients using this very approach.  I declined, since being a Christian medical caregiver didn't get me discounts from my landlord or the utility companies.  I was asked for letters rejecting their proposal of a complete write-off (it was made clear that this was what they really wanted, not just a discount) for them to give to their healthcare pyramid scheme.

[CalicoKitty]

28 minutes ago, Notabug said:

It seems like many of them also demand that their policyholders approach medical facilities and caregivers and ask for their bills to be written off or deeply discounted based on their use of a Christian based non-insurance plan.  It seemed that a lot of them required proof that the client had done the requisite begging and got turned down before even considering paying for the care.  I would think that a lot of their clients found this requirement difficult.

On at least a couple of occasions, I have been approached by patients using this very approach.  I declined, since being a Christian medical caregiver didn't get me discounts from my landlord or the utility companies.  I was asked for letters rejecting their proposal of a complete write-off (it was made clear that this was what they really wanted, not just a discount) for them to give to their healthcare pyramid scheme.

I feel for the people who work in the billing department at any heath facility.  I would guess they have a form letter that they send out for these requests, but just listening to the begging must be exhausting.

[Notabug]

12 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I feel for the people who work in the billing department at any heath facility.  I would guess they have a form letter that they send out for these requests, but just listening to the begging must be exhausting.

I had one individual, a woman who used a group of midwives who I consulted with, contact me repeatedly asking me to write off a bill completely for a procedure I performed that saved her from a cesarean section (I turned her breech baby to headfirst).  The charge was $300 or so; the hospital charges and my fee for a cesarean would've been thousands more than that, yet, she wanted a freebie based on the fact that this midwifery group, with whom I had no financial ties or connection, had delivered her other kids too.  And, of course, because she didn't have real insurance but was a good Christian participating in a healthcare scam. She even came to the office unannounced a couple times asking to speak to me between patients so she could plead her case for Christian charity.  Her repeated intrusions only made me even more certain that I wanted my dam**d money if only for general aggravation.

I finally had to tell my office manager that if she called or showed up wanting to talk to me personally about it again, she was to be advised that she could make an appointment on my regular schedule and be billed for that, too.  She was also informed that only I could adjust charges and there was no point in speaking to anyone else in my office.

Edited September 7 by Notabug

[Is Everyone Gone]

It's such a mystery why having actual health insurance became such a heathen thing according to peeps like Jessa.

[Salacious Kitty]

4 minutes ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

It's such a mystery why having actual health insurance became such a heathen thing according to peeps like Jessa.

They don't want to pay into companies that pay for birth control or abortions. Or anything else they oppose. 

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They don't want to pay into companies that pay for birth control or abortions. Or anything else they oppose. 

Not to mention the fact that many of these churches and their members seem to feel that holding a regular job with benefits is the path to hell and it is far more godly to own their own marginally profitable business and then grift/beg for others to pay their way when it comes to basic stuff like health care.  See Jim Bob: the early years or the Rodrigues familly: dad is lazy so the world needs to suport us because we're better than everyone else.

Edited September 7 by Notabug

[realityfan26]

7 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They don't want to pay into companies that pay for birth control or abortions. Or anything else they oppose. 

A long time friend of mine has become very conservative. About 6 years ago she said she wanted to find insurance that didn't cover birth control. She was an overweight smoker and about 60 years old. I tried to be polite as possible in saying that the people using BC probably didn't like paying for obese smokers. 

[Notabug]

14 minutes ago, realityfan26 said:

A long time friend of mine has become very conservative. About 6 years ago she said she wanted to find insurance that didn't cover birth control. She was an overweight smoker and about 60 years old. I tried to be polite as possible in saying that the people using BC probably didn't like paying for obese smokers. 

This reminds me of people who don't vote for school levies because their kids are grown so they don't use the schools.  If she really wants to save on insurance, her best bet would be to find one that refuses to insure premenopausal women since one of the biggest costs for insurance companies is not just contraception but covering care for pregnancy and childbirth.  Damned women costing us all kinds of money!  There are plenty of men in this country who also don't think they should have to cover the cost of birth control and pregnancy and parenthood; maybe she should form a club.

As far as finding insurance that doesn't cover birth control, she would need to go to work for the Catholic Church or maybe Chick fil A or Hobby Lobby since the affordable care act requires insurance companies to provide contraceptive coverage unless the employer has religious objections.  

Edited September 8 by Notabug

[Gemma Violet]

Jessa's belly in this new photo is conveniently hidden:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAEMB3hRsVX/

[Salacious Kitty]

I think she's just having a harder time losing the baby weight. She has what, 5 kids in 8 years? 

[Gemma Violet]

I was thinking more along the lines of her expecting number 6 and not wanting anyone to know yet.

[AstridM]

God, I hope not 😳

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

I was thinking more along the lines of her expecting number 6 and not wanting anyone to know yet.

Her youngest, George, is only around 9 months old.  That's a little quick, even for Jessa.

[Salacious Kitty]

8 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Her youngest, George, is only around 9 months old.  That's a little quick, even for Jessa.

And she's said they are intentionally spacing after Spurge and Henry were so close together. 

[Gemma Violet]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

Her youngest, George, is only around 9 months old.

Oh OK, I was thinking George was a little older.  My bad.

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, Gemma Violet said:

Oh OK, I was thinking George was a little older.  My bad.

He was born just before Christmas last year. 

[lianau]

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

And she's said they are intentionally spacing after Spurge and Henry were so close together. 

I honestly doubt that. She had 2 misscarriages and even then she only made it to a bit over 2 years between kids 

[Absolom]

A bit over two years is spacing for most of the Duggars and much better than 13 to 15 months between births.

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, lianau said:

I honestly doubt that. She had 2 misscarriages and even then she only made it to a bit over 2 years between kids 

I do, too. Also - she lies. 🤷‍♀️

[VioletWitch]

If I recall, Jessa has been saying she wants 8 kids for years. When she was pregnant with George, she also mentioned the 8 kids thing, but then said she also thinks 5 would be good too--but she wants to be sure that it's what she wants and it's not the pregnancy influencing her. 

 

[GeeGolly]

Jessa will go for 8 because its 1 more than Anna.

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

Jessa will go for 8 because its 1 more than Anna.

She should go for 9 in case Anna has a miracle baby in her. 

[crazy8s]

26 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Jessa will go for 8 because its 1 more than Anna.

Then Kendra or Katie will have a dozen so Jessa will still come up short.

[VioletWitch]

48 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

Then Kendra or Katie will have a dozen so Jessa will still come up short.

I wonder if some of the sisters and sisters in law are competitive with each other in this regard. 
 

I would not be surprised if Jessa exceeds 8. It seems like her identity is tied to being a mother and I could see her spiraling once the kids are ready to move out.

[andromeda331]

On 9/20/2024 at 12:41 PM, Gemma Violet said:

Oh OK, I was thinking George was a little older.  My bad.

So did I. 

[ranchgirl]

And don't forget that she and Ben want to adopt.  Or was that just a storyline for the show?  

Edited September 22 by ranchgirl

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, ranchgirl said:

And don't forget that she and Ben want to adopt.  Or was that just a storyline for the show?  

You beat me to it! 😂😝

[FizzyPuff]

On 9/22/2024 at 5:08 PM, ranchgirl said:

And don't forget that she and Ben want to adopt.  Or was that just a storyline for the show?  

Who in their right mind would’ve given those two a child?

[Notabug]

12 minutes ago, FizzyPuff said:

Who in their right mind would’ve given those two a child?

They'd adopt privately through some like-minded fundie family who had a daughter who wasn't chaste, as they say.

[FizzyPuff]

24 minutes ago, Notabug said:

They'd adopt privately through some like-minded fundie family who had a daughter who wasn't chaste, as they say.

Yes unfortunately I could imagine that. I’m still kinda surprised no one has dumped a baby on their doorstep. 

[Tdoc72]

 Ben looked like such a dorky dad in his swimming getup in Jana’s video about an above-ground pool at the big house. It sounds like Jessa filmed most of it and Jana did the narrating. 

[sixlets]

Keep watching until the end.  

[Absolom]

As soon as the video gave it's topic, you knew what was coming.  

[Gemma Violet]

I don't click on blind links.  Could someone tell me what it is?

[Notabug]

47 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

I don't click on blind links.  Could someone tell me what it is?

It's a short video about people giving children silly names.  Jessa is mentioned as having a son named Spurgeon.

[Is Everyone Gone]

Jessa is getting ROASTED in the comments here:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DA07umwxb7Y/

And what an odd picture to pick for shilling CHM. Jessa and Ben are embracing but somehow grimacing at the same time.

[Salacious Kitty]

Can someone post some screenshots? Jessa blocked me on her honeymoon. 😂

[Is Everyone Gone]

Edited October 11 by Is Everyone Gone

[Salacious Kitty]

Thanks! I'm glad she's getting called out. 

[AstridM]

40 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Thanks! I'm glad she's getting called out. 

What a horrendous excuse for a human being she is, imo 🤬.

[Is Everyone Gone]

That is the most awful picture of her and Ben. They look like every fiber of their being is cringing at the idea of kissing.

I agree, Jessa's the worst. I don't expect the Duggars to have the same views as me. But she's the only one (other than Anna) who seems actively hateful. Others just are in their bubbles where everyone around them has always believed the same things. 

[Madtown]

Jessa doesn't care if it's insurance or not. She's most likely getting money to shill this crap and that's all she cares about. She is just a nasty person. I hope Spurgeon runs far away some day. I feel the worst for him.

[libgirl2]

18 hours ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

My husband is in insurance and he has always said this stuff is crap. They don't cover a lot of things. 

[Salacious Kitty]

17 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

My husband is in insurance and he has always said this stuff is crap. They don't cover a lot of things. 

I remember Hilaria being incensed when she found out they wouldn't cover her son's cancer treatments. The boy is through to the other side, with traditional insurance covering him 

[EmeraldGirl]

Jinger plugs the same stuff. I’m assuming if you are a well-known Dugger, and all you need is maternity care, you will probably get it with no problem. You need more and more babies, and these two “famous” girls are going to get whatever they want when it comes to that. Now, if Jessa has a stroke on baby number 12, all bets are probably off. 

[Absolom]

Yet, the school Jeremy attends requires that he have health insurance at least for him (the last time I checked that was still their policy).  

[andromeda331]

5 hours ago, Absolom said:

Yet, the school Jeremy attends requires that he have health insurance at least for him (the last time I checked that was still their policy).  

That does surprise me. MacArthur doesn't seem the type to have insurance. 

[Notabug]

10 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

My husband is in insurance and he has always said this stuff is crap. They don't cover a lot of things. 

The other part Jessa isn't saying is that, unlike traditional insurance, where you can find out if a visit or test is covered before it is done; these cost sharing programs decide on a case by case, month by month basis after the fact.  So, if they paid for something in the past, there is no guarantee that they will reimburse for the same thing in the future.  Most also have some sort of clause in the contract requiring the client to approach the medical facility or practitioner and ask that their entire bill be written off and their care be free because they are such devout Christians.  The contract also claims proof must be provided that this has happened before the claim can even be submitted to them for possible payment. Not sure what that would entail, I presume documentation from the provider that it was requested and not granted.

[Salacious Kitty]

Remember Flame, the rapper Ben tried to emulate in that horrific scene in the studio? 

Well, a few years ago, he left Reformed theology and became a Lutheran. I wonder how Ben feels about this. 😂