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I wonder if Jessa, Ben and the kids are there and they brought Jordyn to help out with their kids? They did show up as a surprise when Lissy was born.

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If Johanna is of in OK with Joy, Jordyn is in CA, Jed Jer and Jana flying somewhere. Josie shown with Anna, Abbie and Jessa recently - does that mean Jennifer is running the TTH with Jason, James, Jackson and Tyler? She is what 13 or 14?

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7 hours ago, doodlebug said:

These days, the general recommendation is to induce labor if the baby is a week late.  There's research that shows the babies are healthier and mom is less likely to need a cesarean than if they wait for labor.

Yeah well 49 years ago with me that wasn't going to happen. I was a breech so a cesarean was needed. I hope Jinger won't need one and she and the baby will be okay. A pandemic is no time for complications, especially with a family of hangers-on and nincompoops.

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34 minutes ago, EAG46 said:

Yeah well 49 years ago with me that wasn't going to happen. I was a breech so a cesarean was needed. I hope Jinger won't need one and she and the baby will be okay. A pandemic is no time for complications, especially with a family of hangers-on and nincompoops.

My son was breech. I remember being splayed out talking football with the doctor and my ex. 

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I had wondered if maybe Jennifer was with Kendra and Joe, helping Kendra with her littles since she’s pregnant again. No evidence to suggest that, just a thought.

I wonder if Jinger and Jeremy vetoed having Josie come because she’s too messy for their California lifestyle.

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The buddy teams are the end teams. The kids were reshuffled several times while Michelle was still having kids. 

As for having the baby, it's possible she had the baby and they're waiting to announce until after she leaves the hospital. 

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4 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

If I had to guess, Jinger had the baby, everything's fine and they're shopping pictures around to get the most $$$.

Agreed. I was actually expecting an announcement this morning. 

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6 hours ago, crazy8s said:

...does that mean Jennifer is running the TTH with for Jason, James, Jackson and Tyler? She is what 13 or 14?

Fixed that for you. 

Since the oldest 4 daughters were raising their siblings and running the house before they were teens I pretty sure the Duggars have no problem expecting Jennifer to meekly serve her brothers. And for an added bonus, she probably gets to watch her nieces and nephews any time their moms want a break.

ETA, my niece was due Saturday and still hasn't had the baby. She doesn't want to be induced but the doctor told if she hasn't had the baby by next Monday she will be.

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Good thing Jinjer are having all of those out of town guests and a new baby!

from NYT:

California reported 17,694 new cases on Monday, well more than it or any other state had ever done before, according to a New York Times database. Over the past week, it has averaged 12,712 new cases a day — more than Maine’s total for the whole pandemic.

 

 

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Perspective:

Population of Maine:  1.344 million people

Population of California:  39.51 million people 

Then there is the population density factor. 

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14 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Perspective:

Population of Maine:  1.344 million people

Population of California:  39.51 million people 

Then there is the population density factor. 

Maine has 141 covid deaths per 1 million people..

California has 475 Covid deaths per 1 million people.

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Monday's new cases are artificially high because of delayed reporting from over the weekend.  Sunday reported roughly 8,800 new cases. Still way too high, but when the two days are averaged, Monday is on trend for the week.  There's been a surge in testing because of Thanksgiving so it will be interesting to see the numbers in the coming days.

 

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26 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Perspective:

Population of Maine:  1.344 million people

Population of California:  39.51 million people 

Then there is the population density factor. 

Well, yes.

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My niece-in-law is due in three weeks or so. She and her husband are quarantined...no relatives, no friends, no trips or errands. My sister and BIL begin quarantine after getting tested Friday. Same protocol. They will go care for the older child when NIL goes into labor. No parties, no thousands of relatives, let alone any flying in...and we’re all still scared.

These selfish arrogant mindless Duggar morons are flatout pissing me off.

P.S. Latest map from CDC showing cases per 100,000 population...

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As I said there is a population density factor.  It seems to be a major factor in many situations.  It's much easier to catch the virus living in a high rise apartment than a single house on an acre of land.  Although risky behavior anywhere is also a major factor.

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3 minutes ago, Absolom said:

As I said there is a population density factor.  It seems to be a major factor in many situations.  It's much easier to catch the virus living in a high rise apartment than a single house on an acre of land.  Although risky behavior anywhere is also a major factor.

Montana? North Dakota? South Dakota? Wyoming? Not much population density in any of those...

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Just like the Duggars, there is a lot of risky, non-mask wearing behavior going on in many of those places.

Los Angeles is definitely high enough to make non-mask wearing Duggar visiting quite the foolish thing to do.  

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55 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Montana? North Dakota? South Dakota? Wyoming? Not much population density in any of those...

South Dakota is actually the most dangerous place in the world, Covid wise.

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41 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

South Dakota is actually the most dangerous place in the world, Covid wise.

I wonder how much of the Dakota's surges is due to the Sturgis motorcycle festival?

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27 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Some people think that was a superspreader event.

South Dakota also has a moron for a governor. 

Topic: I hope Jinger has an easy delivery and nobody gets covid. 

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1 minute ago, Temperance said:

What do you mean?

That they are quiet about the birth of Vuolo #2 and that there are complications that have not been disclosed (not that they are required to disclose, but still).

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The rest of the family hasn't seemed to stop posting, which makes me think she's likely already had the baby and they are waiting to post versus complications. Then again, these people can be pretty thoughtless, so maybe not. I remember around Joy's due date they all seemed to go quiet, which seemed rather ominous. 

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It's possible they're waiting either for tabloids or some kind of news story. 

They also may be waiting for Jinger, new baby, and Jeremy to leave the hospital to announce, especially since the hospitals are in lockdown mode.

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10 hours ago, Absolom said:

As I said there is a population density factor.  It seems to be a major factor in many situations.  It's much easier to catch the virus living in a high rise apartment than a single house on an acre of land.  Although risky behavior anywhere is also a major factor.

You're right, in the beginning density was the major factor. LA, NYC, nursing homes, cruise ships, jails, etc.

But now the virus has moved beyond that. Super spreader events are popping up in small gatherings now. Once one of those folks infected at a family dinner, moves throughout the community, it grows. Its all about behaviors now and with Thanksgiving and Christmas coming, combined with cold weather, risky behaviors are only going to make it worse.

The other contributing factor is nobody thinks they're an asymptomatic carrier. Just yesterday my husband and I were grocery shopping (we go together because he's older and we can go during 'senior hour') and a woman shopping was wearing a face shield with no mask. We changed our course of direction and went a different way than her. Was she an asymptomatic carrier? Who knows. But I doubt she thought she was, and we weren't taking any chances.

So when folks like the Duggars and Vuolos travel from state to state and mix with other folks, they could be unknowingly spreading covid. Unfortunately over 3 million other US citizens also travelled to see family this week. I'm guessing the next new covid fact will be that flying isn't as covid-safe as it has appeared to be so far.

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1 minute ago, katycat74 said:

Evangeline Jo? Never would have guessed that one. Glad the birth went well though.

I like her name. I wonder if they will call her Angie or Evy or Eva? 

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Hmm, Evie, Angel, Leenie? Evie is very close to Joy's Evy, but I can't imagine them calling her by her formal name. Its quite a mouthful.

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I just love the article title. I can’t even explain how much!

 

Jinger Dugger and husband welcome 2nd child, daughter Evangeline Jo

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I knew a couple of Evangelines in college. They just went by Evangeline. One of them was the daughter of the head of the Religion department. Her father spoke weekly at chapel and always referenced Bonhoeffer. The pretentiousness of the name checks out, although it is beautiful. 

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I thought that name sounded in-the-news familiar. One of the Kody Brown daughters, Madison, named their little girl Evangalynn Kodi. They call her Evie.

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37 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Hmm, Evie, Angel, Leenie? Evie is very close to Joy's Evy, but I can't imagine them calling her by her formal name. Its quite a mouthful.

Maybe they will go for some alliteration. Vannie or Vanna Voulo almost has a bit of a ring to it.

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"Only" 7 pounds.  That is light for a Duggar and probably why no rush to induce as they got close to the due date.  Is that the lightest Duggar baby except for Josie?  

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3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

You're right, in the beginning density was the major factor. LA, NYC, nursing homes, cruise ships, jails, etc.

We're still have proximity spreading.  As people have gone back to work, businesses are among one of the top sources of outbreaks.  Working next to people all day seems to not be a good thing.  

I'm certainly not discounting the spread due to gatherings.  Far from it.  I cringe every time we see a group of Duggars together mixing households much less all their travel.  I've seen far, far too many parties on my own street.  The disregard for a potentially deadly virus is astounding and people like the Duggars just encourage it. 

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7 lbs seems like a normal weight. It's the almost 10 pounders that are weird.. Duggars. Glad that everything went well.  I wonder if they'll call her Eva. Eva, Evy and Ivy. 

Of course JereME needs a child named after him in some capacity. 

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14 minutes ago, Absolom said:

We're still have proximity spreading.  As people have gone back to work, businesses are among one of the top sources of outbreaks.  Working next to people all day seems to not be a good thing.  

I'm certainly not discounting the spread due to gatherings.  Far from it.  I cringe every time we see a group of Duggars together mixing households much less all their travel.  I've seen far, far too many parties on my own street.  The disregard for a potentially deadly virus is astounding and people like the Duggars just encourage it. 

Tell that to the place I work. We are a library. Many libraries are going curbside. We are staying open. They removed all the chairs so people will just come in and get what they need and not linger. They didn't take into consideration the built in benches along the walls were now people are making themselves comfy and staying for hours. Luckily, I work in the back but again, we are crammed into an office. We have had 6 positives since 11/3. 

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Maybe it’s everything else. Maybe it’s because these two are just so arrogant, especially when so many are in a world of hurt. Maybe it’s just Another Duggar Has Another Baby Fatigue.

But I really don’t care. RFP and Jinger can stuff it and I hope the new kid is a screamer.

25 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

Hmmmm... I was close on the name. I thought they would have honored Jeremy's mom though.

Why do that when you can honor RFP instead?

Feh.

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6 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Maybe it’s everything else. Maybe it’s because these two are just so arrogant, especially when so many are in a world of hurt. Maybe it’s just Another Duggar Has Another Baby Fatigue.

But I really don’t care. RFP and Jinger can stuff it and I hope the new kid is a screamer.

Why do that when you can honor RFP instead?

Feh.

Couldn't even go with Josephine. Yes, mouthful but Jo?

If I didn't know any better I would think that they were stopping at two after "honoring" Jeremy. I fully expect a boy to be Jeremy Joseph Vuolo II.

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Evangeline is such an elegant name, tacking "Jo" on to the end kind of cheapens it. Evangeline Joanna would've been prettier.

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Gelly belly for a nickname!

 

Of course there is a bow on the head.

Name is nice but very long.

Could have used Jerri or Remy as well. 

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Yes, 7 pounds is a shockingly normal weight for a Duggar baby.  I wonder what the difference was for Jinger to not have a Duggar size newborn this time.

From the morning newsfeed with an epidemiologist to add to the discussion on rising cases surrounding the Duggars:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/11/24/938593233/a-case-for-focusing-pandemic-restrictions-on-small-social-gatherings

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4 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Evangeline is such an elegant name, tacking "Jo" on to the end kind of cheapens it. Evangeline Joanna would've been prettier.

I think they should have used the "Hope" that so many of us were speculating about. Evangeline Hope would have been really pretty. But since my daughter's middle name is Hope, I'm probably biased, and maybe just a little relieved that they didn't use it!

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