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S05.E10: Belize It or Not

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Reza plans a last-minute group trip to Belize, hoping Mike and Jessica can work out their issues while there.  In Belize, Mike nervously waits for his wife's arrival, MJ mulls over life without Tommy, and tensions explode during a first-night dinner.

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The only part of this show that seemed real for a minute was when Jessica told Reza she wouldn't be getting back with Mike. His face fell and he looked like he was about to cry when he asked "why?"

I don't know why they care so much about getting Mike and Jessica back together when they spent all last season hating Jessica. The GG drama bores me.

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Why does any one of them care if GG has RA or not or if she's exaggerating?  If she's going through treatment, she may be truly scared and may be exaggerating a bit.  So what?  And if that's the case, then be supportive.  True she shouldn't be drinking or smoking probably, but that is her business.   There is a notable person in town here - has had knee and hips replaced before they were 40 due to RA.  It's not a joke.  How do these assholes know what is and what is not proper treatment for RA?  

She was so trying not to blow up, but I was thinking my God, I would be blowing up at these assholes in no time.  

MJ, whether Jessica is there or not, or why she is not - none of your business.  She cannot get that through her thick skull.

Reza is such an absolute asshole.  Next week, he calls Jessica.  Again, none of your business. None.  I missed him speaking with Jessica - but why?  If a couple is having problems, those TWO have to work on it, not the "crew".  

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Is this the season where everyone tries on new careers? Mike wants to be a shoe designer rather than a real estate agent. Reza tried stand up. Failed miserably. He's now decided to be Dr. Phil.

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Does Reza hate his own life or something? He's such a miserable nosey dramatic little shithead. Well, little big shithead, that noggin is huge.

Also, when MJ was staring at her eyebrows for at least a full 4 seconds while driving instead of looking at the road, I was holding my breath. That was so not cool.

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This is no defense of MJ -- Shervin totally called her on the self-sabotage -- but I know firsthand, the power of an Iranian parent yapping in your ear about the mistakes they're JUST SURE you're making.

(This is all noted with sorrow and affection.  I miss you so much my darling Papa-joon, and would give anything to hear you boss me around again.)

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Haven't watched this season at all, but stumbled on this episode.  That GG is so unlikeable and annoying to watch but at the same time I feel sorry for how empty her life seems. She has RA? I am sorry for her. My sister, a nurse, also has it. Early onset in her 20s and it is a horrible, progressive disease that can manifest itself  differently in different people. After almost 20 years, Sis is now on methotrexate along with other drugs. She also does not smoke or drink, exercises as her body allows, and focuses on a healthy lifestyle to help combat the RA.  GG  seems to do the opposite as well as misinform her family and friends about the status of her disease and treatment.  Probably fear of having this disease is affecting her thinking...but she is a hot mess, needs a hobby or a job to give meaning to her empty life and give her something to do.  You can be a productive person and live a good life with RA if you don't play the victim and have nothing to do in your daily life (and playing a nutcase on a scripted reality show doesn't count).

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MJ is becoming like her bitter mother. Of course, the real reason for that stupid secret revealing at the dinner table was to harangue GG about her RA. Why is this even a thing?

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When is Shervin going to realize that Reza set him up to take the fall with GG? He didn't question her RA/treatment before Reza got in his ear and spewed poison. Reza is terrified that GG, or any other cast member, has a sympathetic storyline that doesn't involve him, so he has to cast doubt on everything, including an illness.

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I don't even like GG but Shervin and Nima are both up there with Reza. Nima's "confession" wasn't positive when both Reza and GG started off in light hearted confessions, it was a shitty thing to do. The way Shervin was pissed about GG not owning her apology to his satisfaction and she needed to learn a lesson from it was creepy. Quite frankly I am shocked she apologized at all because he came for her at the very least it should have been a mutual apology, so sit down Shervin's and Nima. 

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I believe GG has RA.  The way her "friends" are treating her was all kinds of wrong.  My understanding of it is, it's progressive.  I wonder if GG's drinking and partying is an attempt to self-medicate, or deny that she has the illness.  I feel sorry for her because other than the show, I'm not sure she has a life.  Didn't she have a hair extension line?  Asa is trying different businesses, but poor GG just seems like a lost child to me. 

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GG's dramatic about everything so, of course, she's going to be dramatic about her RA.  That doesn't mean anything other than she's DRAMATIC!

Shut up everyone with your bullshit "tough love" and it's "for her own good" abuser language crap.  

Ugh, these people, I need to go to the corner in a comfortable caftan and eat some ceviche with Asa.

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Shervin- so he's not perfect after all. Actually, a perfect asshole is more like it. Ughhh what a disappointment. There could have been a better approach to asking GG what was up. I don't know how he became so wealthy, dumb luck I guess because he just doesn't seem to be that smart to me. Reza set him up like a puppy dog telling him to go to GG and basically call her a liar. And he went right over to her and did just that. 

I do have to say that Shervins view from his backyard is breathtaking. All the lights of the Hollywood Hills or the city at night or what ever the view is supposed to be is to die for. He needs to teach Mike how to make money because I think this is the life Mike dreams of having but never will. 

MJ please shut up with your stupid voicemail messages to Tommy. It's no wonder he's not calling you back. 

Adam couldn't go to Belize because he had to work? Anybody know what he does for a living? 

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Leave GG alone!!! I DO NOT want another show about fake illness ......even though I believe GG really does have RA. (Of course I believed Brooks to so what do I know)

Was Reza throwing water??? What is it with this crew and throwing shit?

I to was surprised to hear Adam had a job. I thought he was a house husband. Hum

Mikes going to end up a used car salesman when he's 50 longing for his big life in Vegas and his hot wife that he threw away.

I give GG a pass for smoking and drinking. Obviously she's self medicating with the liquor and smokig is wicked hard to quit especilly when your under pressure.

9th person watching here......

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Count me as #9.  I'm sure those of us who have RA recognized the list of drugs the doctor rambled off incl the one (forgot name) that is or was a chemo drug.  I don't doubt for a minute that GG has RA, she is just an overly dramatic person making things worse than they really are. Having a 2 hour infusion treatment is nothing, at least is was for me.  When I had them, I scheduled them after work, had treatment & went on about my day as normal.  It was no big deal.I think for some reason she just doesn't pay attention or confuses the info that the doctor gives her. Instead of going out drinking, she would be better off finding out more about the disease.

 

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2 hours ago, biakbiak said:

I don't even like GG but Shervin and Nima are both up there with Reza. Nima's "confession" wasn't positive when both Reza and GG started off in light hearted confessions, it was a shitty thing to do. The way Shervin was pissed about GG not owning her apology to his satisfaction and she needed to learn a lesson from it was creepy. Quite frankly I am shocked she apologized at all because he came for her at the very least it should have been a mutual apology, so sit down Shervin's and Nima. 

I wondered how long it would take for Shervin to disappoint me.

Why wasn't Reza's beloved husband there?

Does one really take chemo for RA, or was someone misnaming her treatments? Sorry if someone already addressed this question.

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16 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

Does one really take chemo for RA, or was someone misnaming her treatments? Sorry if someone already addressed this question.

My neighbor has RA and has chemo treatments. I think she takes a pill, though. 

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2 hours ago, charmed1 said:

Are we the last 8 people still watching this show? 

I forgot it was on, and then when I caught the later showing I fell asleep. Usually I'll rewatch on the Bravo app when that happens, but I don't really feel like it this time. I don't really like any of these people anymore, and I wish they'd leave GG alone about her illness. Either that or do REAL things to help her out. 

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2 hours ago, bosawks said:

GG's dramatic about everything so, of course, she's going to be dramatic about her RA.  That doesn't mean anything other than she's DRAMATIC!

Shut up everyone with your bullshit "tough love" and it's "for her own good" abuser language crap.  

Ugh, these people, I need to go to the corner in a comfortable caftan and eat some ceviche with Asa.

Seriously that ceviche looked bomb. Yum!

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Every week it just seems like they are trying harder and harder to come up with storylines.....just like every Bravo/TLC show...they start tumbling down that rabbit hole.

 

I used to like this show....it's become painful these days.

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I wish they would quit harping at GG.  She is coping with it the way she does everything.  Alcohol.  She's not ready to quit and all the nagging and intervening isn't going to make a difference.  Even though she creeps me out with all the knives (that she gave names) she's still their friend and in pain. 

If Reza was all up in my  business like he is in his friends I would pop him in his big nosey nose!  I wish he would get is own life and quit meddling. 
I was disappointed  with Shervin this epi.  He knows what GG is going through yet takes Reza's side.  Not oool.

I had it with MJ when she started the thing with her "tinder man".  IMO Both losers.

Mike is a jerk and a cheater and a liar but it's his business.  Everybody else needs to stay out of ot
That leaves me with Asa.  She is a "lets make nice, and sweep everything under the rug" type.  She is always up, always happy friend you have.  She is the buddy you have that you will probably choke before you have had your coffee.  But I love her caftans!

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I think what happened is GG  heard chemo and ran. The doctor said she hadn't been in in several months (something you cannot do with chronic illness) so she's probably been in progressively worse pain and thats what the drinking is about. Hopefully she'll continue seeing her doctor and they can get her on the right meds. In the mean time her "friends" need to STFU.

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2 hours ago, eurekagirl mOo said:

Was Reza throwing water??? What is it with this crew and throwing shit?

On the plane yet.  He just said he could lean over and touch the pilot and then he makes a ruckus in the back.  Don't people get arrested off of planes for that shit?

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1 hour ago, Blondie said:

I wish they would quit harping at GG.  She is coping with it the way she does everything.  Alcohol.  She's not ready to quit and all the nagging and intervening isn't going to make a difference.  Even though she creeps me out with all the knives (that she gave names) she's still their friend and in pain. 

I agree with this; I think the problem is in real life, you can cut off someone who's abusing alcohol, especially if you feel you'll get in trouble hanging out with them.  But GG's on this show with them; they have no choice but to film with her.  I feel for GG, but I wouldn't want to hang out with a drunk either. 

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I'm a loyal viewer and watch every week. I also tend to comment on each show. Just haven't yet decided whether to comment and what to say about this episode. But since I'm here…..I agree with some of what's been said, but of course, not all of it.

I could ask WHY are certain people (Reza and MJ) in everyone else's business….well, because it's a reality TV show and -- either it's how they really are butt-in-skees…OR they're doing it for a story line. I think even someone who cares about Mike, would have by now STOPPED getting involved in his issue with Jessica. So why are Reza an MJ STILL butting in?

GG is a mess. Because she's been such a snasty person personality wise. I really don't care whether she has RA or not.

And I still love Shervin. Because I do think he cares about her. Where as MJ's and Reza's meddling seems contrived.

I'd love to feel the quality of Asa's caftans.  Not all are created equal. Are her's like the ones seen on Housewives of BH, or like the cheap ones I can get at Foreman Mills, Gabe's (east coast stores), or Walmart.

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4 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

I wondered how long it would take for Shervin to disappoint me.

Why wasn't Reza's beloved husband there?

Does one really take chemo for RA, or was someone misnaming her treatments? Sorry if someone already addressed this question.

 

4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

My neighbor has RA and has chemo treatments. I think she takes a pill, though. 

Methotrexate is used as both a chemo drug & an immunosuppressant  (for RA).  I've only taken it in pill form (once a week) but had to stop because of side effects. I'm sure when GG's doctor was explaining things about the various drugs (on a prior visit),  the word "chemo" came up & this is all she heard & remembered.  In her mind, she will have "chemo" treatments when really she is just taking or using  a drug(s)  for her RA that can be used for cancer.  GG even questioned if the drugs the doctor  listed were all "chemo" drugs & he said only one was, Rituxan, which is used in combo with Methotrexate for RA.  It  sounded like he wasn't going with that one because he said he wasn't going to discuss side effects of something he wasn't going to use.  I'm sure his recommendation of what drug to use will be partly based on her blood results. The way it sounds like to me  is for the past 5 years her RA has been controlled with something "simple" along the lines of Naprosyn or Motrin.  It's probably gotten worse so the next course of action would be trying one the  DMARD type of drugs, which the doctor was naming. (DMARD =  Disease Modifying AntiRheumatic Drugs)  These are the top guns of the RA meds, they do the job but have serious side affects, unfortunately. Of course, all this just my opinion.  

I think Reza said Adam couldn't go on the trip cuz of work.  I guess he just can't drop his work responsibilities & go on a vacation at the drop of a hat like the rest of the "crew". 

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Where does MJ shop? Because she must be buying her clothes in some store that has no lights or mirrors. Wear your correct size!!!! And stick those boobies back in. With the boobies hanging out and the fried blond hair she looks like a washed up hooker (or stripper). No offense to strippers or hookers I'm sure they dress better.

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I'm not normally a GG fan (the drama needs to be taken down a notch) but I really feel for her. Her symptoms, treatment, and how she's handling them are no one else's business. Let those doofuses walk a mile in her shoes before they judge her.

Also, shut up, Reza.

Run, Tommy, run!

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Say what you might, but they look fun as heck to hang out with.

Critcism: What was that gray monstrosity Asa had on while traveling. We know her body is banging, but those sweats!! Dios mios

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4 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

Ah, thanks! I couldn't figure put what good doing chemotherapy would do since RA isn't like cancer at all.

At the levels used for RA, methotrexate works as an immune suppressant, like someone said.  I take it 6 times a week, I started out at a much lower dose but as my RA progresses, so do my meds.

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1 hour ago, announcergirl said:

Say what you might, but they look fun as heck to hang out with.

Critcism: What was that gray monstrosity Asa had on while traveling. We know her body is banging, but those sweats!! Dios mios

Almost as bad as the overalls Eileen Davidson (Housewives Bev Hills) wore when they flew to Dubai.

 

4 hours ago, eurekagirl mOo said:

Where does MJ shop? Because she must be buying her clothes in some store that has no lights or mirrors. Wear your correct size!!!! And stick those boobies back in. With the boobies hanging out and the fried blond hair she looks like a washed up hooker (or stripper). No offense to strippers or hookers I'm sure they dress better.

Couldn't agree more!! 

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1 hour ago, terminalpreppy said:

Oh dear. I dont think i have ever seen a group of friends SO badly dressed to travel. I mean wtf? so messy, so unflattering, so uncool. so unstylish.

These people are in their late 30/s and 40's and have money - you would never guess it in those get-ups.

related: do all amercians drink booze out of those stupid red cups? At shervins house  they all sat around the pool at night drinking out of them. What are they - frat kids? doesnt that trend die once you leave college? i personally would be shocked to rock up at a friends place for drinks / dinner or whatever and drink out of plastic cups. Shervin has a glamorous expensive home, cant you put your drinks in glasses?

i dont get it. again they are in their forties. they act, dress and socialise like they are all in a sorority/fraternity

I don't think I'd let these numb nuts anywhere near my stemware.

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1 hour ago, bosawks said:

I don't think I'd let these numb nuts anywhere near my stemware.

Particularly given they were by his pool.

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At the levels used for RA, methotrexate works as an immune suppressant, like someone said.  I take it 6 times a week, I started out at a much lower dose but as my RA progresses, so do my meds.

I have lovely methotrexate Monday.  Weee. I have been off it because of multiple colds and infections but it's a bitch.  There is a little bit of "no I don't wanna take this stupid med every Monday!!!" going on too, so i can see GG's perspective, but I need to start again.  It does infuriate me that she's saying chemo and getting her family all freaked out.  Yeah it's her thang but I think it really gives RA sufferers a bad name.  

Reza really is a nasty shit stirring asshole.  He just LOVES throwing a touch of dirt and then sitting back and giggling. 

I must admit, I'd love a night out with Asa.

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10 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Particularly given they were by his pool.

Yes we drink out of red plastic cups at picnics, by the pool, or most outdoor activities. No glass to break, no cuts, no mess. There called solo cups and there is even a country song about "My solo cup, I love my red solo cup" LOL It's an American thing!"

13 hours ago, Barb23 said:

Almost as bad as the overalls Eileen Davidson (Housewives Bev Hills) wore when they flew to Dubai.

 

Couldn't agree more!! 

Eileen looked like shit in those overalls and she STILL gets best dressed compared to these guys. Except Asas' caftans. There beautiful

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1 hour ago, eurekagirl mOo said:

Yes we drink out of red plastic cups at picnics, by the pool, or most outdoor activities. No glass to break, no cuts, no mess. There called solo cups and there is even a country song about "My solo cup, I love my red solo cup" LOL It's an American thing!"

Eileen looked like shit in those overalls and she STILL gets best dressed compared to these guys. Except Asas' caftans. There beautiful

I am sooooo not a prude, but I despise a red solo cup.  They make clear ones (my preference) and colored ones, red ones just bug the shit out of me.  

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For $7.95, I have enough red solo cups in my house to last through a zombie apocalypse and a zombie apocalypse after party. Because I, like Christine Baskets, shop at Costco and Costco only sells things in Duggar like proportions. Shervin probably shops there too which is why he had enough Cheetos on hand to fill a bathtub. 

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1 hour ago, TV Diva Queen said:

I am sooooo not a prude, but I despise a red solo cup.  They make clear ones (my preference) and colored ones, red ones just bug the shit out of me.  

But ahhh, when you see a red solo cup you know we bout to turn up! A beacon, if you will, to drunks everywhere!

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54 minutes ago, announcergirl said:

But ahhh, when you see a red solo cup you know we bout to turn up! A beacon, if you will, to drunks everywhere!

You made me seriously laugh.  out.  loud.  Today's "slow clap" goes to you!!  

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When will bravo create a "Real Red Solo Cup of XYZ"?

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13 hours ago, charmed1 said:

For $7.95, I have enough red solo cups in my house to last through a zombie apocalypse and a zombie apocalypse after party. Because I, like Christine Baskets, shop at Costco and Costco only sells things in Duggar like proportions. Shervin probably shops there too which is why he had enough Cheetos on hand to fill a bathtub. 

Christine Baskets is my hero!!! 

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