cuddlingcrowley September 11, 2016 Author Share September 11, 2016 (edited) Quote If she really didn't want to walk away when she said "I gotta go" then why did she? Is Lorelai so insecure/egotistical that she needs someone to plead with her to stay when she says she has to go? Quote YES! Sorry, but dude, what show have you been watching? S6 after April showed was basically about Lorelai losing her faith in her relationship with Luke. Quote Luke listened to Lorelai and tried to base his response on what she said. Cool! That's nowhere near the same as taking someone's needs into account and trying to meet them halfaway. Quote Yes, Luke shot down the idea of leaving to elope that minute, and he was unhappy that she went to talk to Anna without his knowledge. I don't blame him for either of those things. When Lorelai said now or never, he very honestly said "I can't just jump like that." He didn't say I don't want to marry you, he didn't say I don't love you any more. Why couldn't she meet him halfway at that point? Did she have to call all the shots? He also didn't say "My real name is Max, I'm a Alien". Whew! Sorry, roswell rewatch. The entire point of the fight was Lorelai having doubts over Luke loving her and his commitment to marry her given how he treated her during the past few months. The moment he was confronted with that, Luke basically chocked, completely failing to convince her of either, that's why she left. That's on Luke. That said, I don't think ultimatums are a good idea at all. And I think it's understandable why he chocked. 32 minutes ago, Smad said: You can make it easier on yourself. You don't actually need to use the quote function in the reply window. Just double click the text you want to quote (in the person's post) to highlight it and you will see a black/white 'Quote This' pop up. Just click that. Thank you, that's working for me! 32 minutes ago, Smad said: How was he supposed to meet her halfway? Just look at his face the whole time she is rattling of her 'grievances'. He was completely blind-sided and had no clue what she was even talking about. The only things that he recognised during her insane rant were Anna and April. Everything else was completely new to him. Are you actually asking Luke to be able to connect the dots between the various jumps in topics Lorelai was doing? Especially since Lorelai has kept that all to herself for months until she explodes at him while Luke thought they were ok and Lorelai was ok with how he was handling things. If Luke was less of a jerk, Lorelai's grievances wouldn't have caught him so off guard. It's because he's a jerk that he was able to spend months not treating her right, without ever stopping a moment to consider his actions weren't okay. Luke should be held accountable to his own actions, he's a grown man. Lorelai failed to communicate her unhappiness sooner and she failed to communicate it a propper manner by making an ultimatum. That's true. But that doesn't take away his responsability of keeping himself in check and being a decent human being and a decent boyfriend. He failed her on both those accounts after April showed up. Edited September 11, 2016 by cuddlingcrowley 7 Link to comment
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