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Am I the only one that found the work mate (Zack?) Chasing after adopted adult daughter creepy AF?  Is the next storyline she gets murdered by her obsessive coworker?

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3 hours ago, Luckylyn said:

Another possibility is that Madison has crap insurance and she and Kevin will marry so he can put her on his insurance to cover her medical costs.  

If her income is low enough, she could get help, being single. They've never indicated that, though.

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3 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I don’t think Madison will die. Her bulimia and amenorrhea (spelling?? absence of periods), caused her not to ovulate regularly, making pregnancy less likely. But so long as she treats herself for her ED, eats nutritious food she will be fine. 

Considering dying in childbirth is one of the few sad topics they haven't covered yet, would you really be surprised if Madison doesn't survive it?

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1 minute ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Considering dying in childbirth is one of the few sad topics they haven't covered yet, would you really be surprised if Madison doesn't survive it?

That would be sad. 

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4 hours ago, ShortyMac said:

If her income is low enough, she could get help, being single. They've never indicated that, though.

Madison told Kevin that she doesn't need him to be involved financially. At that time she already knew she was having twins, so it sounds like she has the means to support them (and herself). There have also been subtle hints in the past that she's doing well financially. She's so well-connected that when Kate said she wanted to teach music, Madison immediately lined up an interview with a high school principal. And when Kate was getting married, Madison seemed to know the owners of a really upscale bridal boutique and took Kate there the same day without an appointment (and IIRC, offered to pay for Kate's dress).

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14 hours ago, chocolatine said:

Madison told Kevin that she doesn't need him to be involved financially. At that time she already knew she was having twins, so it sounds like she has the means to support them (and herself). There have also been subtle hints in the past that she's doing well financially. She's so well-connected that when Kate said she wanted to teach music, Madison immediately lined up an interview with a high school principal. And when Kate was getting married, Madison seemed to know the owners of a really upscale bridal boutique and took Kate there the same day without an appointment (and IIRC, offered to pay for Kate's dress).

Yeah I agree with you. I’m sure Madison is just fine financially and capable of supporting herself and her children. The notion that all single mothers are poor or struggling financially is played out especially when they are in their mid 30s! With a teen or college age woman I could understand it more but Madison has been grown a long time, I’m sure she has a plan for raising these kids. 

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I am just speculating (maybe more wish fulfillment than anything), but I think it could be interesting if Rebecca starts the trial, but it is shut down early based on unforeseen side effects.  She’s at the cabin, and the siblings blame Randall so aren’t speaking to him.  Randall spirals after hearing the news.  Next season he focuses on therapy.  Kevin gets involved in some sort of project that highlights adoption and the feelings of the adopted child.  He starts to understand Randall more.  Maybe Kate finally has a come to Jesus meeting with both of them.  They slowly come back together as a family.

I am seeing a lot of comments about how it shouldn’t be easy for Kate and Toby to adopt.  I assume these next two seasons we will see their difficulty in doing so.

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So now we can guess that the “they” Toby mentioned includes Jack as well as Hailey.  But since they’d still be kids, there has to be an adult there too.  By process of elimination, we can guess it could be the following:  Kate, Madison, Annie or Déjà.  And maybe Malik (if Deja is still involved with him). 

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9 minutes ago, PRgal said:

So now we can guess that the “they” Toby mentioned includes Jack as well as Hailey.  But since they’d still be kids, there has to be an adult there too.  By process of elimination, we can guess it could be the following:  Kate, Madison, Annie or Déjà.  And maybe Malik (if Deja is still involved with him). 

Jack and Hailey could be with their cousins, but my money is on Kate and Madison.  

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I'm guessing that Cassidy is going to come back in the story next season since she popped up in Nicky's new trailer.  I wonder if Kevin starts construction on the house he builds after being inspired by the time capsule drawing.  This would bring him back to Pennsylvania more.  I hope to see more of Nicky for sure and I wouldn't mind Cassidy figuring in somehow.  I honestly don't need any more Kevin/Randall, it's going to be tough watching Rebecca's decline, I am not invested in Kate and Toby adopting.  There has been plenty of adoption in the show, it was already hard to swallow Kate's IVF, and now they apparently successfully adopt.  Kevin navigating impending fatherhood could be okay but I'm not really into it.  They could use an infusion of new plot or at least interesting returns to threads they've already woven. 

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On 3/26/2020 at 1:02 PM, Crs97 said:

I am just speculating (maybe more wish fulfillment than anything), but I think it could be interesting if Rebecca starts the trial, but it is shut down early based on unforeseen side effects.  She’s at the cabin, and the siblings blame Randall so aren’t speaking to him.  

I haven't re-watched the episode, but something about the two timelines in "So Long, Marianne" seems off. Here is what I gather happened in that episode;

November 2019: Rebecca leaves the house after arguing with Randall, goes to see "The Irishman," buys a pie and goes home, apparently without help. She tells Randall that during the previews she forgot what she was there to see and realizes something's wrong.

August 2020: Rebecca sets out to get a cake for the Big Three's Big Four Oh, meets NotWilliam in the park, who directs her to a nearby supermarket. She forgets about the cake, buys flowers instead, goes for lunch at a Chinese restaurant, realizes she doesn't have her phone, and has a meltdown. The police drive her back to the cabin.

I know we were supposed to think the two were the same trip right until the end, but it seems fake that there are no indicators these are happening in different seasons. Rebecca is wearing a coat, and NotWilliam is wearing a heavy fall sweater. The only way the later scenes make sense is if the birthday party did not take place on the actual day in August, but a month or so later, when the fall clothing would make sense. My guess is that Rebecca did go to St. Louis, but the family postponed the party until the treatment was finished. It did not work, at least not right away, so everybody is still mad at Randall for pushing it.

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From a vague interview with Chrissy:

https://www.tvshowsace.com/2020/05/28/this-is-us-star-chrissy-metz-hints-at-season-5-surprises/?fbclid=IwAR3zJ5tFeas48f2bZU8JxSK80cRgCCV6NJfvqwoWztNYub9zeyb1D4RzZNw

My thoughts are she has something horrible happen they haven't showed yet, abortion or attempted suicide (but that would be hard to hide for 4 seasons) I know Marc isn't out of the picture and I didn't feel Kate would have birth control in the cabin and Marc wearing a condom, don't see it. But time will tell, whenever it is back. It does seem they are adding things outside of original outline they made, maybe some things depended on whether Chrissy lost weight. Everything was just Jack as her spiral went on back then and now they are adding more. The actress that plays Chrissy in late teens doesn't seem like she could gain that much weight in a few years unless something happened. A coworker told me a story of a girl who played track with her in high school and gained over 100 pounds after a rumored rape at college.  We will see how they play it but for Dan to check with her, I was intrigued. (also a lot more time to think about it until work starts next week!)

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From that article I would bet on abortion being the big secret. I can't see rape, since Kate and Rebecca's first recollection of him (at the piano bench) seemed more sad (opposed to angry) than what I would expect if he'd raped her. If it is abortion,  I'm betting Kate didn't confide in anyone,  including her mother, and that's the "guilt" that lead to her weight gain. 

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2 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

From that article I would bet on abortion being the big secret. I can't see rape, since Kate and Rebecca's first recollection of him (at the piano bench) seemed more sad (opposed to angry) than what I would expect if he'd raped her. If it is abortion,  I'm betting Kate didn't confide in anyone,  including her mother, and that's the "guilt" that lead to her weight gain. 

unless marc was actually mentally unstable (remember he said his father was a jerk) and killed himself in front of kate which caused guilt for kate

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2 hours ago, balmz said:

unless marc was actually mentally unstable (remember he said his father was a jerk) and killed himself in front of kate which caused guilt for kate

That's a possibility,  though I'm not sure that would warrant needing to get the okay, so to speak, from Chrissy that perhaps writing an abortion into her character's storyline would. Unfortunately,  suicide would more likely provoke sympathy from fans, where an abortion can incite some people to nastiness. 

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2 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

That's a possibility,  though I'm not sure that would warrant needing to get the okay, so to speak, from Chrissy that perhaps writing an abortion into her character's storyline would. Unfortunately,  suicide would more likely provoke sympathy from fans, where an abortion can incite some people to nastiness. 

well mark was fairly nasty to begin with, so fans might instead be delighted in his death disturbingly

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39 minutes ago, balmz said:

well mark was fairly nasty to begin with, so fans might instead be delighted in his death disturbingly

I'm worried that the writers' intent is to make Mark a more sympathetic character who treated Kate badly because he was troubled, and not because he was "just" a jerk. That would also explain Kate's and Rebecca's present-day reactions to his pictures being wistful rather than disgusted (as I think they should have been).

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3 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

I'm worried that the writers' intent is to make Mark a more sympathetic character who treated Kate badly because he was troubled, and not because he was "just" a jerk. That would also explain Kate's and Rebecca's present-day reactions to his pictures being wistful rather than disgusted (as I think they should have been).

unless they are planning do like his father is shown and is a complete sociopath who makes jacks dad look like a saint and you wonder how mark didn't end up exactly like him and kate and rebecca witness this, then mark does has some empathy and realizes what he did was wrong and is guilt ridden, apologizes to kate and kills himself out of guilt and shame

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4 minutes ago, balmz said:

unless they are planning do like his father is shown and is a complete sociopath who makes jacks dad look like a saint and you wonder how mark didn't end up exactly like him and kate and rebecca witness this, then mark does has some empathy and realizes what he did was wrong and is guilt ridden, apologizes to kate and kills himself out of guilt and shame

Oh, I completely agree that the show will go that route. I just wish they didn't.

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If Toby and Kate aren't going to be together for long, does anyone think it's possible that Kate adopts Hailey on her own?

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I don't see Mark being too nice since he hasn't shown any true warmth and empathy. When he's nice, it's to control and he'll give her a zinger to balance it out. The control issues, dropping over her home and his controlling nature makes me feel it would be impossible.

The adoption will be interesting, they aren't the "perfect couple" for adoption but things have changed since my friends were turned down because of a physical limitation on the husband. They get what seems like a beautiful healthy girl but time will tell what the beginning was like. They have a blind son they are still adjusting too and their marriage isn't solid. This is Us usually isn't too unrealistic (except with triplets) but it will be interesting. It doesn't seem she is that much younger than Jack Jr.  Doing  a quick search being considered "morbidly obese" with non-private adoptions isn't as strict as it was in like 2007 but I still see posts from parents angry it was part of screening for health reasons.

We know they get her, but was it foster to adoption (thinking this now) or private?

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If a family with newborn twins grieving for their lost triplet can take an abandoned newborn baby home with them, then I have no doubt the adoption agency has plenty of babies ready for Toby and Kate!

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2 hours ago, Crs97 said:

If a family with newborn twins grieving for their lost triplet can take an abandoned newborn baby home with them, then I have no doubt the adoption agency has plenty of babies ready for Toby and Kate!

All it takes for a Pearson to get what they want is to make an impassioned speech.

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2 hours ago, chocolatine said:

All it takes for a Pearson to get what they want is to make an impassioned speech.

Oh please I still would want to FF through the car dealer one!

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On 5/31/2020 at 6:48 AM, debraran said:

 

We know they get her, but was it foster to adoption (thinking this now) or private?

We see them look at pictures of toddler to school aged kids in the finale, so it looks like they're hinting foster to adopt.   

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