Rocky Horror Picture Show: Let's Do The Time Warp (Yet) Again! (2016 Fox) - General Discussion

[Guest]

I miss the squalid nature of the original film. This one seems way too sanitized. And what happened to the Time Warp? It took five seconds to learn the original -- I'd have to go to Alvin Ailey's Dance School for Seniors to learn the one they presented tonight. :( 

[aradia22]

Yeah, this is just not terribly salacious. And people complained about Glee's version. I will say that for the most part, the singing is pretty good. 

Haha, Ryan's face at Janet's "I don't like men with too many muscles." Honestly, Laverne isn't nailing the jokes the way I'd hoped. "I didn't make him for you" should have played better.

[WendyCR72]

3 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

Yeah, this is just not terribly salacious. And people complained about Glee's version. I will say that for the most part, the singing is pretty good. 

Well, the first mistake is being aired on broadcast, and the second is airing it at 8:00 p.m.

[WhosThatGirl]

The singing is pretty good. I'm just not feeling iffy on certain aspects. I can't put my finger on what it is though.

[Kromm]

I forgot that Columbia is the one who gets most of the good lines in this.

On the fence with Laverne. The performance is great. But I agree something else needed to be done to distinguish from Curry was needed (besides the obvious... her race, gender identifcation and... breasts). Verbally I don't know what else she should have done, but there must have been something.

That said, to be fair, the guy doing Riff Raff is copying Richard O'Brian just as totally.  And this Columbia is of course doing the same accent for Columbia. So we don't really have to pick just on Laverne for that.

[lyric]

Not liking Laverne's performance:

1. She's not Tim Curry

2. She's gargling her words

3. She's playing it campy, playing Curry-lite, as others said, but without the oozing sex of Curry

4. She's not Tim Curry

[aradia22]

Columbia is played by Annaleigh Ashford. One of my best friends loves her. 

The guy they got to play Rocky has a nice body and all but this is dull to me.

[Kromm]

1 minute ago, WendyCR72 said:

Well, the first mistake is being aired on broadcast, and the second is airing it at 8:00 p.m.

Well the problem is that Fox doesn't run past 10pm. And this is 2 hours (less like a half hour's worth of commercials), isn't it?

Laverne's delivery is FAR easier to take on these less known songs.

Ah time for Not Meatloaf. (I actually forgot this was going to be Lambert)

[aradia22]

Laverne has beautiful teeth. But I think she's too busy posing for screengrabs and gifs than losing herself in the part.

Well, Adam Lambert sounds like Adam Lambert. I'm not complaining. 

LOL at Eddie/Lambert's sideburns

[WhosThatGirl]

At least Adam was doing something different with his role.

[aradia22]

OK, this really is feeling like Glee. 

[Kromm]

Just now, aradia22 said:

OK, this really is feeling like Glee. 

[revbfc]

I've only heard one other version of "Sweet Transvestite" that can be favorably compared to the movie version, and this one was not it.  Don't get me wrong, Laverne Cox has a great voice (and performs the hell out of the role) but the arrangement lacked the necessary punch.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=1LHV8Ezb7BE

[aradia22]

There was no danger in Laverne stalking Eddie with the knife. You could barely see what was happening. I do agree that Lambert was at least doing something different.

I feel like the show keeps forgetting about Brad and Janet.

OK, I think I'm caught up by now. Is everyone else also watching a Guardians of the Galaxy trailer?

[JasmineFlower]

Just watching the first 5 minutes. I know this is pre-recorded and not live, but what's up with the bad lip-syncing? Does this continue? Cause I can just bail right now. Her voice is good, but the lip-syncing is extremely obvious, not at all like a movie musical. I'd expect more out of a production that had time for post-production.

[Kromm]

More excited to see Baby Groot than most of what we've seen otherwise tonight.

[ParadoxLost]

3 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

There was no danger in Laverne stalking Eddie with the knife. You could barely see what was happening. I do agree that Lambert was at least doing something different.

I didn't actually think that doing something different was something good in that case. 

In the original, there was some stalking and hacking that made Curry come across as dangerous and menacing.  Here not so much.

I do think Riff Raff is definitely different here.  Sexy perv instead of creepy.

I am sad that Christina Milian is ruining Magenta.

Edited October 21, 2016 by ParadoxLost

[aradia22]

I can finally settle in now that I've shut all the windows and doors. My idiot neighbors have morphed into soccer hooligans. I don't know why they're chanting but they are.

[JasmineFlower]

4 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

OK, this really is feeling like Glee. 

Early on or later years?

[Kromm]

Just now, ParadoxLost said:

I am sad that Christina Milian is ruining Magenta.

Her casting was the only overt WTF for me. It never made sense.

[aradia22]

"Oh, yes, Brad"? He just got into bed. All he had time to do was cuddle her.

The thing is this could be more effective with the silhouettes like in the movie. 

[Kromm]

If a transgender actor playing a role made famous by a crossdresser sexes up a girl onsceen do we call it lesbianism on 8PM Fox?

[aradia22]

Glee the later years. It's in the tone and also the way it's filmed.

OK, Christina Milan really doesn't know what movie she's in.

Ryan's OK in this scene.

He's no Barry Bostwick but he actually seems to be having fun.

[lyric]

This is so corny.

[Kromm]

How does Christina Milian get worse every time she's on screen?

Somehow I think this sequence with Brad is supposed to be funnier than it actually is.

[aradia22]

LOL, Reeve Carney's dull delivery echoes how I'm feeling right now.

[Guest]

I just can't ruin one more memory of my beloved Rocky Horror watching this Six Flags Players rendition of it.  Time to change the channel. 

[aradia22]

Oh good. The theater audience is back (sarcasm)

[revbfc]

OK, now I'm just getting pissed.  No part of the script is meant to be delivered in a natural tone.  Nothing in RHPS should ever be spoken conversationally.

I'm looking at you, entire cast.

[aradia22]

I only watched the movie once or twice years ago but this is making me realize how well I remember it. I don't think people who are encountering Rocky Horror for the first time through this will remember the story and beats nearly as well.

I'm liking Victoria Justice's voice. But it's like they cast people on their voices without any acting component to the audition.

I feel like I might listen to this album but I probably won't be watching this again.

On the plus side, my mom is into it.

I feel like we also somehow lost the sci-fi aspect of Rocky being a creation.

[WendyCR72]

Rocky Horror is always meant to be campy and fun. And this presentation lacks any element of both.

[Kromm]

2 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

I'm liking Victoria Justice's voice. But it's like they cast people on their voices without any acting component to the audition.

Well they probably also considered Victoria's figure (given that she's in a bra the whole time) and the guy who plays Rocky's body had to be important too.

[revbfc]

Adam Lambert is the best thing so far. 

[WhosThatGirl]

2 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Rocky Horror is always meant to be campy and fun. And this presentation lacks any element of both.

This. 

[Kromm]

1 minute ago, revbfc said:

Adam Lambert is the best thing so far. 

I'll still give it to the Usherette at the beginning.

It's sad that it's all been downhill since that.

[aradia22]

When I caught Rocky Horror on TV as a teenager, I felt like I had discovered this secret thing I wasn't supposed to be watching. It aired late enough that it creeped me out a little and while not that risque in the grand scheme of things, it felt sexy.

[revbfc]

Just now, Kromm said:

I'll still give it to the Usherette at the beginning.

It's sad that it's all been downhill since that.

Yeah, she was good, too.

[Kromm]

Was that commercial supposed to sell me on Legion? Because it didn't.

[ParadoxLost]

4 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

I'm liking Victoria Justice's voice. But it's like they cast people on their voices without any acting component to the audition.

This is definitely the problem.  She's no Susan Sarandon, and who is.  But there was nothing in that performance that had any emotional connection.  She was performing a song and that's it.  The lack of emotion made it too loud and fast.  They also toned the whole thing down for TV which ruined the funniest parts.

Its happening with almost everyone.

[aradia22]

Laverne's current outfit is fabulous.

Ben Vereen looks bonkers.

[ParadoxLost]

2 minutes ago, Kromm said:

I'll still give it to the Usherette at the beginning.

It's sad that it's all been downhill since that.

You only got that because Christina Milian is terrible.  Usually whoever plays Magenta does that number.

[Kromm]

Well Ben Vereen can act. So maybe we'll get something here.

Ugh. The stupid crowd.

[aradia22]

Oh my God, Ben Vereen as someone who actually knows how to act and react... What are you doing here?

[Kromm]

Just now, ParadoxLost said:

You only got that because Christina Milian is terrible.  Usually whoever plays Magenta does that number.

Good point.

And why did they keep Milian around if they knew that?

[aradia22]

Laverne's "oh" was actually a good line reading finally.

[WendyCR72]

I had read rumors that Adam Lambert was offered the lead role of Frank-N'-Furter but declined. I can't help but wonder if this would have been salvaged had Lambert played the role. But probably not, given some of the other cast and the broadcast constraints that plague this.

[aradia22]

LOL, Rocky's completely over it "ugh" is me right now.

[Kromm]

Okay one of the best moments of the movie (everyone saying each others's names) and it didn't work either.

[WendyCR72]

2 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

Oh my God, Ben Vereen as someone who actually knows how to act and react... What are you doing here?

Slumming? (Sorry, but at this point, why else would anyone with acting sense be here?)

[Kromm]

Last Supper much?