The Nightly Show With Larry Wilmore - General Discussion

[Brandi Maxxxx]

You mean it's possible to not talk about her?

[shok]

I actually watched the debate, and the reason Bernie shushed her is that Hillary was continually interrupting him during his time, basically stopping him from speaking. The way it was structured, they each got a minute to reply to a question. After that, the other person got a minute to refute. But Hillary was interrupting Bernie over and over again, eating up his time, and stopping him from speaking. So actually in this case, Bernie was the injured party, Hillary was the rude one, and I wish this show would actually watch the stuff they comment on before commenting, because it's a chronic problem that they comment on shit they know nothing about and it pisses me off.

 

 

Wow, it's amazing how two people can watch the same event and get a completely different view. Bernie is notorious for always interrupting and waving his hand and pointing his finger and he always, always, ALWAYS, has to get the last word in. His behaviour towards Hillary has lost him a lot of votes. Obviously I'm not the only one, nor the only woman who feels that way since the show thought it glaring enough to do a bit about it.

[formerlyfreedom]

A reminder to please stick to discussion of the episode sketches and the panel discussions. Nothing has gone too far afield, however, further discussion of the political debates that is not the by-product of the episode will be removed.

[Hanahope]

I also love when the show focuses on Black and Latino/a issues, and the perspectives of people of color in general. We can get the white viewpoint on just about anything, just about anywhere and any time. Giving air to other people is a huge relief and I wish more places would do it

 

Me too.  I love having this show and Samantha Bee's show so that we get some info/comedy from a non-white male.  And I learn a lot from this show that I don't find about otherwise, like the whole Zoe Saldana/Nina Simone bit.  I had no idea.  So I need this show to educate me on such issues.

 

So in the spirit of such, I have to ask, What is the deal about Stacy Dash?  Is it just because she's on Fox News and says the usual conservative crap or was there something particularly outrageous?

 

I could definitely do without the Nightly Nightly bit.

 

I'm sad so many people didn't know who Harriet Tubman was.  Education is so poor in so many parts of this country.

Edited March 14, 2016 by Hanahope

[Brandi Maxxxx]

I'm sad so many people didn't know who Harriet Tubman was.  Education is so poor in so many parts of this country.

She grew up interior Maryland slave shack, the year 18, where she dreamed of becoming the first woman to surf around the world.

[trow125]

So in the spirit of such, I have to ask, What is the deal about Stacy Dash?  Is it just because she's on Fox News and says the usual conservative crap or was there something particularly outrageous?

Dash seems to be trying to say as many outrageous things as possible, a la Ann Coulter (in other words, mainly to help promote her book sales -- yes, she's written a book). I suspect the issue that really got her on Wilmore's radar was her call for the end of black history month.

[ganesh]

(in other words, mainly to help promote her book sales -- yes, she's written a book).

 

"Because a bitch got books to sell!"

 

Seriously though, she's a very bad Coulter knock off. 

[possibilities]

That "Nightly Nightly" schtick is way less annoying if you don't watch it. My FF reflex finally kicked in.

 

Has anyone caught the name of the Trump impersonator? I think he does a great job.

[gesundheit]

Has anyone caught the name of the Trump impersonator? I think he does a great job.

It's a great impersonation but it's hard to watch since it's less parody and more reality. It's spot-on and makes my skin crawl.

[Arcadiasw]

Love segments that include Rory and Mike. Their fight was hilarious.

[wknt3]

Has anyone caught the name of the Trump impersonator? I think he does a great job.

 

According to The Nightly Show Twitter account his name is Bob DiBuono. He's a comedian and actor from NYC. Here's his website - http://t.co/aIyWPAs9Ui

Edited March 15, 2016 by wknt3

[TV-junkie]

Has anyone caught the name of the Trump impersonator? I think he does a great job.

Unfortunately, DiBuonos hands are a bit large. ;-)

Edited March 15, 2016 by TV-junkie

[attica]

All these years I thought I was a white woman, but after seeing Robin's Black Lady Sign Language segment, I...have doubts. I do the double-clap-on-syllables thing All (clap) The (clap) Time (clap).

[attica]

You know sometimes when you have a completely unrelated-to-anything flash of insight? I all of a sudden realized that Jordan Carlos used to be Stephen Colbert's Black Friend Alan!

[ganesh]

How does one pronounce "biopic?"

 

I actually don't care how many people actually "like" a candidate. I'd rather they be actually qualified to do the job. Plus, Clinton probably wouldn't be so unliked if congress didn't have an unhealthy obsession with raking her every waking minute over the coals. The Benghazi commission has lasted longer than the 9/11 commission and came up with ziltch. It was specifically directed at making her unlikeable. 

Edited March 17, 2016 by ganesh

[attica]

How does one pronounce "biopic?"

 

Hah! I saw that on the crawl and laughed. Truthfully, though, I've heard it pronounced two ways, BYE-o-pic, and bye-OP-ic (to rhyme with myopic), each by people who should know.

 

After consulting my trusty Webster's, though, the first pronunciation above is the only one listed. The other isn't even listed as an alternate. So it's right for that to be on the list! 

[Arcadiasw]

Wow. Mike Yard can't win on Pardon the Interrogation. That was brilliant putting Holly in Rory's seat.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Oh that was HILARIOUS! Only this sketch makes me laugh so hard I can't catch my breath and makes my tummy hurt from laughing so hard!

 

The look on Mike's face when Rory said Holly was going to take his place, instead of him "mansplaining" the issue! Priceless.

 

Mike: "Aww HELL NO!!!!"

 

And then when Mike said how plus sized women should have "dignity" and Holly turns it on him, he leans forward, and with his hands says: "nonononnonononononono. That's not what I meant!"

 

I'm still laughing.  Mike shaking his head, while Rory and Holly hug and kiss.  

 

This should be on EVERY NIGHT.

[RockShrimp]

watching the rerun of last night's show. I am so impressed Joanna Coales didn't smack Mike upside the head when he was all: "I don't know these men who don't like powerful women." So glad Larry called him out on it.

[gesundheit]

watching the rerun of last night's show. I am so impressed Joanna Coales didn't smack Mike upside the head when he was all: "I don't know these men who don't like powerful women." So glad Larry called him out on it.

You just made my day a lot less anxious. Mike saying that was literally the last thing I heard before I had to turn off the episode and leave for work this morning and I stewed my whole commute, hoping they didn't let him get away with that.

 

Mike Yard is definitely my favorite of the correspondents, even when I disagree with him, but after that and that nonsense about not understanding why telling women to smile is patronizing as hell, I was needing someone to slap some sense into him!

[ganesh]

The food desert piece was actually quite good. 

 

What I got from Yard was he didn't know why Clinton didn't seem to be happy about doing so well in all the primaries. The news woman guest gave a thorough response to that though especially with the example of Thatcher. To be fair, he did say that it was dumb about her being criticized for speaking loud. Not his finest panel though. 

She was a great guest. 

[Iboatedhere]

watching the rerun of last night's show. I am so impressed Joanna Coales didn't smack Mike upside the head when he was all: "I don't know these men who don't like powerful women." So glad Larry called him out on it.

 

If Mike doesn't know who those men are then maybe he is one of those men. I was waiting for someone to say that.

 

And I really like Mike. But c'mon, man.

Edited March 18, 2016 by Iboatedhere

[marina to]

God help me, I am really attracted to Rory. When he's onscreen I have to make any effort to see anyone else.

Watched both Wednesday and Thursday and enjoyed them both. I was annoyed on the likeability panel that no one touched upon how the Republicans have been throwing crap at Clinton for decades. Appreciate Larry mentioning how the actual person was different than the persona. Surprised no one even considered that maybe the reason she doesn't show vulnerability is because every time she does it's used against her? Just really felt we could have had a deeper discussion than we did.

Edited March 19, 2016 by marina to

[ganesh]

Surprised no one even considered that maybe the reason she doesn't show vulnerability is because every time she does it's used against her?

 

I think the woman was alluding to that when she was saying that Clinton being happy for winning all the primaries isn't relevant and that maybe she's taking the campaign seriously, as you would want a president to do. Clinton can't win with anything though. 

[wknt3]

Mike Yard is definitely my favorite of the correspondents, even when I disagree with him, but after that and that nonsense about not understanding why telling women to smile is patronizing as hell, I was needing someone to slap some sense into him!

I've said before that Mike is very hit and miss on panel. I always thought it was mostly not being willing to take it seriously and always looking for the laugh. The same problem Ricky used to have although Mike is a lot more entertaining. I'm really wondering if the bigger issue is that he just doesn't instinctively grasp points of view and perspectives other than his own and doesn't make an effort to do so. It's too bad as unless he can learn how he will probably never get as far in comedy as Larry or Rory even though he's funnier.

Edited March 20, 2016 by wknt3

[attica]

Mike falls prey to the 'all I know is all there is' fallacy. He really doesn't do a good job of noticing that other people have other life experiences. 

[maraleia]

Regarding tonight's segment on the tampon tax. Here is an article about how much a woman spends on their periods over a lifetime. Spoiler it's just shy of 20 grand. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/18/period-cost-lifetime_n_7258780.html

[ganesh]

The piece with the news woman totally pwning Cruz was gold. "Uh, you don't know how many muslims there are in America? Ohh-kaaay."

 

I'd like someone to put to rest the ridiculous whining about why Obama won't say "radical islam", as Cruz was snipping about on the Fox News piece. As the head of state, regardless if you like other countries or not, you have to choose your words carefully. It's called being diplomatic. Obama may personally despise the way the Saudi Arabian government is run, but he's not going to trash their religion if he needs their help fighting IS.

 

Similarly, it's called nuance. You blabber on and on about "islamic terrorists" as Cruz was, and you're playing into the IS narrative of "us versus the West." It's the same reason why Kerry calls them Dash. If you can't see that defeating them is going to take way way more than just "bomb everything," then you don't have an understanding what it takes to be president. 

 

But I think Cruz knows this, and in his bloodthirst to trash Obama, he doesn't care if he's practically doing the recruiting for IS themselves. 

 

I'm glad TNS and TDS are coming around to pointing out that there is barely any difference between Trump and Cruz.

 

Robin was wrong about Obama and Guantanamo though. Obama said he would close it, and signed an executive order to do so. He needs congressional approval to complete the process, and of course congress isn't going to help him out at all. 

Edited March 24, 2016 by ganesh

[possibilities]

I think Cruz was trying to appeal to Trump's voters, thus the open trolling. But at the same time, I think he actually is as much of a bigoted ignoramus as he appears. I don't know what's worse, a guy like Trump who gets off on the attention and is probably running just for that very reason, or a guy like Cruz who's a true believer in the ideology he espouses, and knows how to don a glaze of decorum when he wants to, thus fooling people into thinking he's not as crazy and extreme as filterless Donald.

 

I idea, to prevent the need to slit my throat in horror, is that if Trump wins the election, he will be immediately impeached within his first 100 days, in a bipartisan effort, because you know he's going to break every law that crosses his path and be too arrogant to even try covering his tracks. The only problem is that might mean our next president is whatever sockpuppet he chooses as his running mate. Honestly, I think that was Christie's endgame when he endorsed-- he can't get elected himself but maybe he thought he could ride the orange emperor's coat tails and they could be blowhard buddies.

 

I like that they are continuing to feature Flint Water and Tampon Tuesdays. I had mixed feelings about the porn version of Flint advocacy. I totally got what they were saying about the media and the attention span of the public, and I was relieved it didn't turn into yet another "Nightly Nightly" segment. But I thought it skated too close to the line. For instance, why no male staff members (ahem) pimping themselves for the cause? Did it really have to be only the women?

 

Here are some tampon crafts: http://www.tamponcrafts.com

Apparently there are non-medical uses.

Edited March 24, 2016 by possibilities

[ganesh]

Oh, let's make fun of college kids. Grow up, college kids! This was not a good panel. At least Jordan tried, but I roll my eyes whenever Yard pulls his old man bs. Not surprising it ended up that he had an ax to grind.

 

I get that there's some people who are looking to be offended. Who knows what the counselors were saying. "Hey, you need to get over this." Or would it be better if everyone got into fights over graffiti? 

[Victor the Crab]

I thought TNS had a good point about the micro aggressions of today's college students. I'm not sure whether to laugh or facepalm at these little snowflakes for getting so worked up over a TRUMP 2016 chalk writing. Would it make them feel better if they just - I dunno - washed it off? Or, more specifically, if someone decided to re word it into "TRUMP IS A HALF ORANGUTAN"? Or does reading the word TRUMP sets off their triggers?

[ChelseaNH]

That felt like the deck was a little stacked.  Grousing about those darned millenials is not that interesting.

 

Also, I have a peeve about people complaining about trigger warnings.  The point of trigger warnings is to let people know that some material could be upsetting, and to let them prepare themselves for confronting it if that sort of thing hits too close to home.  It's not about telling people to flee in terror from the bad stuff.

[Victor the Crab]

If millennial snowflakes need to know at hand that something might be upsetting to them, then they will not be prepared to handle the real world. Because the real world doesn't give two shits about their feelings.

[ganesh]

So the rape survivor who still might be having some problems should just suck it up and deal? Ok. That fat kid should just stop eating and he wouldn't be fat and people wouldn't bully him. It couldn't possibly be something else. Or the transwoman who has to humiliate herself by using the men's room. Maybe the real world should care a little more.

 

I know that's not what they were actually talking about, but fundamentally it's reaching into that. "Just suck it up" is a superficial discussion and doesn't really get to either why people needed counseling or what kind of counseling was offered. What did the counselors actually say? No one bothered to ask that because Yard's dad would have just driven down there and smacked him and that's that! 

 

"Crybabies all want their trophy. They should have gotten smacked around when they were kids like me." Sure, Yard, if you didn't get hit when you were a kid, you wouldn't be a successful comedian and writer on a weekly show.

 

But, ha ha, millenials are dumb. They better not be on my lawn!

[trow125]

Props to my husband, who thought the Emory story sounded like bullshit and Googled it while we were watching. Sure enough, here it is on snopes.com.

WHAT'S TRUE: Students at Emory University gathered in protest after pro-Trump graffiti appeared overnight; administrators investigated the graffiti as it appeared outside designated areas for chalk markings.

WHAT'S FALSE: "Emergency counseling" was offered to or demanded by students; Emory students complained that their "safe spaces" had been violated; students were afraid of or traumatized by the chalk markings.

[ganesh]

Must have too hard to follow up on that story I guess. Real Time did the same bit. I know this is a comedy show and they aren't required to fact check three different sources, but the "millennials need to know what the real world is like and suck it up because we all don't get trophies," is just not fresh material.

[ChelseaNH]

If millennial snowflakes need to know at hand that something might be upsetting to them

 

Not the purpose of a trigger warning.  A trigger warning is "We're going to discuss this topic" or "This work includes depictions of <whatever>."  That's all that needs to be said.  Trigger warnings are generally given for subjects that involve violence and trauma, not hurt feelings.  It is a matter of courtesy towards people who have suffered violence and trauma.  Do you object to being kind to people who have suffered violence and trauma?

[ganesh]

Mike Yard's dad would have driven right down there and given him a backhand if Mike said that something upset him!

[Kromm]

Wilmore's gonna go to town tonight on the Trump Campaign manager story, I bet.

 

EDIT - Okay, I just realized there's a decent chance the show is in reruns this week. I didn't watch Monday so I don't know if it is or not.

Edited March 29, 2016 by Kromm

[Kromm]

Not the purpose of a trigger warning.  A trigger warning is "We're going to discuss this topic" or "This work includes depictions of <whatever>."  That's all that needs to be said.  Trigger warnings are generally given for subjects that involve violence and trauma, not hurt feelings.  It is a matter of courtesy towards people who have suffered violence and trauma.  Do you object to being kind to people who have suffered violence and trauma?

But the comedy has a point that this has been bent terribly out of shape now, often to people inventing or anticipating trauma where none exists. And not as a courtesy, but sometimes as if it's a demand. The old advice to "toughen up" was heartless when applied against the results of real violence, but actually had a point when it was about hearing simple speech (especially in an open forum).  

 

The problem is that the aura of stuff like this opens the doors for vast overreactions in the other direction. People flock to a nightmare like Donald Trump in part because they've seen political correctness, trigger warnings, enforced inclusion, etc. take on the appearance of being ridiculous and over-applied. So they knee-jerk react into instead trusting/following someone who's eternally in a "tell it like it is" (at least how they claim it is)/overly-blunt mode.

[ganesh]

That apparently wasn't what happened here at all based on the posted snopes report. So by going for the easy joke, they're irresponsibly reinforcing the "overly PC tell it like it is" narrative on the show. I tend to this overreaction in the other direction is an overreaction in and of itself and not nearly as common as perceived. Yes, there are some people looking to be offended, but on the show, they're taking that as representative of "college kids" as a whole, which just isn't the case from my pov. 

 

The whole "we were tougher and just sucked it up back then" narrative is a canard anyway. I think Yard has selective memory. People with legit mental health issues, that are treatable and readily dealt with, would have to keep it bottled up, or worse lead to substance abuse to cope. Oh, and women couldn't get raped by their husbands either, "so too bad, lady, you got married. That's your problem."

[ChelseaNH]

in part because they've seen political correctness, trigger warnings, enforced inclusion, etc. take on the appearance of being ridiculous and over-applied

 

At least some of those people think "over-applied" is when they get pushback on their wink-wink-nudge-nudge jokes.

[ZoqFotPik]

Soul Daddy!!!

[possibilities]

Larry: if you're not bald, grow it out because no one seems to believe you.

[attica]

I feel unsettled to admit this, but Rory in his Bounty Hunter gear? Kinda hot.

[possibilities]

I'm glad they talked about the inconsistency in the anti-abortion position, because I was genuinely confused to discover over the past few days that the "pro-life" people don't think women should be punished. I honestly had no idea that Trump saying women should be punished for having abortions would be controversial with the "pro-life" base, and I honestly think it's shockingly inconsistent with all the actual policy they keep generating.

 

For a long time, abortion was one of those "silent majority" issues where polls would say most people believe it should be safe and legal under various circumstances, but you could never get anyone outside of NARAL to talk about it in the open. So I find it quite refreshing to see TNS, which I find fairly unpredictable in terms of what they may or may not be passionate and take a strong advocacy position about, to be coming out hard for cutting through the BS on this particular topic.

 

Likewise, I did not expect them to care so much about Trans discrimination bills-- kudos to the show for making that a priority and showcasing it the way they did.

[attica]

I honestly had no idea that Trump saying women should be punished for having abortions would be controversial with the "pro-life" base, and I honestly think it's shockingly inconsistent with all the actual policy they keep generating.

 

Couple of things: 1) There is a definite uptick in women being prosecuted for feticide, for what are basically self-abortions, in all of these anti-choice states. That is a feature, not a bug. 2) The only reason anti-choicers aren't vocal about punishments for women is that they understand the political fallout such declarations would have. It's much better to sneak these things into law on the DL, all the while professing to be acting in the interest of women. This makes it so people who aren't necessarily paying attention to choice legislation overlook laws which are sold as care-taking measures, not throw-all-the-whores-in-jail measures. 

 

But you're right: it's completely logically inconsistent. And pointing that out is something that the press just doesn't do. So good on ol' Tweety! (words I didn't think I'd ever type!)

[ganesh]

I don't see how requiring a woman to get an ultrasound prior to an abortion isn't punishing her. Or having to drive 500 miles to clinic. 

 

Kansas is an embarrassment to the nation. They did away with taxes to "create jobs" and all the business owners just pocketed the extra cash. Now the infrastructure and educational system is a mess. 

 

I think hosting as Soul Daddy is a really good dare. I don't think he would have hosted the show drunk for real, and probably just would have "had some drinks."

 

What's with the trend of hating on trans-people now?

[ganesh]

The Ocean's 11 skit was really funny. I don't recall when they've used the entire group for one thing. 

[grawlix]

Kansas is an embarrassment to the nation. They did away with taxes to "create jobs" and all the business owners just pocketed the extra cash. Now the infrastructure and educational system is a mess. 

 

 

Kansas should be referred to whenever anyone brings up "Trickle down economics".  They tried it and if failed miserably.  I'm glad I live in a state where the governor smart enough not it implement such an idiotic economic policy .