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2 hours ago, absnow54 said:

I'm guessing Zombieland 2's cast is a lot more expensive now than it was 10 years ago.

Save for Abigail Breslin. Man, that was a child star I was really rooting for, and she didn't really turn into as good of an actress as I thought she would. Kind of disappointing.

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Box Office Mojo has undergone a complete redesign to be fully integrated with parent site IMDb (which is owned by Amazon), putting several features behind the IMDbPro paywall and outright eliminating others. Box office journalists and creatives in the industry have thoughts about this:


BOM was the most thorough and easiest to use box office site for US and worldwide numbers, but there are others: The Numbers, Box Office Pro, and Box Office Guru, for starters. Anyway, as for this weekend, the #1 movie might change with the actual figures tomorrow afternoon. Worldwide, Joker becomes the highest-grossing R-rated movie of all time.


October 25–27, 2019 Estimates:

1 (2)  Joker   $18,900,000  (-35%)  | 3,936 Theaters | $4,802 Avg. | $55–70M Budget | $277,583,522     
2 (1)  Maleficent: Mistress of Evil   $18,537,000  (-50%)  | 3,790 Theaters | $4,891 Avg. | $100M Budget | $65,412,158
3 (4)  The Addams Family   $11,705,007  (-28%)  | 4,207 Theaters | $2,782 Avg. | $40M Budget | $72,800,705
4 (3)  Zombieland: Double Tap   $11,600,000  (-57%)  | 3,468 Theaters | $3,345 Avg. | $42–48M Budget | $47,000,273
5 (N)  Countdown   $9,010,000 | 2,675 Theaters | $3,368 Avg. | $6.5M Budget | $9,010,000
6 (N)  Black and Blue   $8,325,000 | 2,062 Theaters | $4,037 Avg. | $12.3M Budget | $8,325,000
7 (5)  Gemini Man   $4,000,000  (-52%)  | 3,008 Theaters | $1,330 Avg. | $138M Budget | $43,342,413
8 (15)  The Lighthouse   $3,082,722  (+621%)  | 586 Theaters | $5,261 Avg. | $3,663,209
9 (N)  The Current War: Director's Cut*   $2,730,200 | 1,022 Theaters | $2,671 Avg. | $30M Budget | $2,730,200
10 (6)  Abominable   $2,000,000  (-43%)  | 2,196 Theaters | $911 Avg. | $75M Budget | $56,818,595     

Downton Abbey   $1,900,000  (-39%)  | 1,658 Theaters | $1,146 Avg. | $13–20M Budget | $92,206,630
Parasite   $1,819,784  (+47%)  | 129 Theaters | $14,107 Avg. | $11M Budget | $4,107,294
Judy   $1,181,830  (-46.6%) | 1,121 Theaters | $1,054 Avg. | $21,515,206
Jojo Rabbit   $1,041,000  (+198%)  | 55 Theaters | $18,927 Avg. | $1,500,424     

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $571.5M Overseas Total | $849.1M Global Total
FAST & FURIOUS PRESENTS: HOBBS & SHAW:  $586.3M Overseas Total | $760.1M Global Total

ONCE UPON A TIME...IN HOLLYWOOD:  $226.9M Overseas Total | $367.2M Global Total
MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL:  $228.1M Overseas Total | $293.5M Global Total

DOWNTON ABBEY:  $80.4M Overseas Total | $172.6M Global Total
GEMINI MAN:  $104.9M Overseas Total | $148.2M Global Total
ABOMINABLE:  $87.8M Overseas Total | $144.6M Global Total
HUSTLERS:  $32.4M Overseas Total | $135.9M Global Total

PARASITE:  $87.3M Overseas Total | $91.4M Global Total
THE ADDAMS FAMILY:  $11.2M Overseas Total | $84M Global Total
ZOMBIELAND: DOUBLE TAP:  $16.6M Overseas Total | $63.6M Global Total

PAIN & GLORY:  $25.5M Overseas Total | $27.2M Global Total
TERMINATOR: DARK FATE:  $12.8M Overseas/Global Total  
COUNTDOWN:  $1.71M Overseas Total | $10.7M Global Total

*The Current War premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2017, with a version approved by Harvey Weinstein. Here's more about the behind-the-scenes journey from then to now. 

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1 hour ago, xaxat said:

I definitely didn't see that coming.

Does anyone know where that ranks on DC Universe films?

Right now, Joker's global total is third among DCEU movies, after Aquaman and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, though I'm not sure if it's considered part of this recent DC Extended Universe or not. The press before the release seemed to indicate it wasn't going to be tied to the other movies, but that could change with future DC films. Among all DC Comics movies, the top Nolan movies push Joker down to fifth worldwide ATM.

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56 minutes ago, methodwriter85 said:

The potential would-be backers who turned Joker down must be kicking themselves.

‘Joker’ Set To Bank Near Half-Billion In Profit, On Par With ‘Avengers: Infinity War’: The Breakdown (Deadline):

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Warners reduced its risk on the movie with Village Roadshow at 25%, and Bron Studios at 25%.

The Hollywood Reporter article about Jared Leto allegedly trying to stop WB from making a spin-off without him also had this interesting tidbit:

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Ironically, Warners thought the Phillips project would be a small movie and, nervous about its dark tone, greenlit the pic reluctantly, with a small budget that some at the studio hoped would discourage Phillips from making it.

I wonder what (if any) movie WB was hoping he would make instead? Phillips has already struck it rich with the Hangover movies, where the general consensus even among fans is that the second and third installments didn't improve upon the story, so IMO it might make him reluctant to agree to a Joker sequel. It's gotten scathing reviews but also won the Golden Lion at Venice, which no one would have predicted for any Todd Phillips movie, ever, and a sequel is unlikely to repeat the level of controversy and acclaim.  Joaquin turned down an MCU role (Dr Strange) because he didn't want to be tied to a movie universe and he's a bit different than your average star, more of a serious ac-tor about the craft. I can see him wanting to work with Phillips again but not necessarily another Joker movie. 

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I mean, they've both said that the Joker is a one-off. If it weren't an oddball like Joaquin Phoenix, I'd think they'd be working on a sequel as we speak, but Joaquin Phoenix doesn't seem like he wants to be tied to a franchise.

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Outside the Top 10:

Bigil   $993,000 | 158 Theaters | $6,285 Avg. | $993,000
Housefull 4   $880,000 | 315 Theaters | $2,794 Avg. | $880,000     
Jesus Is King   $838,000 | 372 Theaters | $2,252 Avg. | $838,000

Western Stars   $560,000 | 537 Theaters | $1,043 Avg. | $1,000,000     
Once Upon a Time…in Hollywood   $550,000  (+738%)  | 1,674 Theaters | $329 Avg. | $90–96M Budget | $140,422,518
Jay & Silent Bob Reboot   $219,397 | $12,906 Avg. | $10M Budget | $1,570,700

The Peanut Butter Falcon   $115,420 | 166 Theaters | $695 Avg. | $6.2M Budget | $20,078,951
No Safe Spaces   $45,000 | 1 Theater | $45,000 Avg. | $45,000
Synonyms   $19,070 | 2 Theaters | $9,535 Avg. | $19,070     

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November 1–3, 2019 Estimates:

1 (N)  Terminator: Dark Fate   $29,000,000 | 4,086 Theaters | $7,097 Avg. | $185–196M Budget | $29,000,000
2 (2)   Joker   $13,925,000  (-28%)  | 3,519 Theaters | $3,957 Avg. | $55–70M Budget | $299,611,992
3 (1)   Maleficent: Mistress of Evil   $12,175,000  (-37%)  | 3,820 Theaters | $3,187 Avg. | $185M Budget | $84,324,711
4 (N)  Harriet   $12,000,000 | 2,059 Theaters | $5,828 Avg. | $17M Budget | $12,000,000
5 (3)  The Addams Family   $8,499,007  (-29%)  | 3,607 Theaters | $2,356 Avg. | $40M Budget | $85,295,007

6 (4)  Zombieland: Double Tap   $7,350,000  (-38%)  | 3,337 Theaters | $2,203 Avg. | $42M Budget | $59,307,162
7 (5)  Countdown   $5,850,000  (-34%)  | 2,675 Theaters | $2,187 Avg. | $6.5M Budget | $17,766,036
8 (6)  Black and Blue   $4,050,000  (-52%)  | 2,062 Theaters | $1,964 Avg. | $12M Budget | $15,442,478
9 (N)  Motherless Brooklyn   $3,650,000 | 1,342 Theaters | $2,720 Avg. | $26M Budget | $3,650,000
10 (N)  Arctic Dogs   $3,100,000 | 2,844 Theaters | $1,090 Avg. | $50M Budget | $3,100,000     

11 (12)  Parasite   $2,630,000  (+44%)  | 461 Theaters | $5,705 Avg. | $7,554,256
12 (14)  Jojo Rabbit   $2,401,000  (+130%)  | 256 Theaters | $9,379 Avg. | $4,286,236
13 (8)  The Lighthouse   $2,020,000  (-33%)  | 978 Theaters | $2,065 Avg. | <$4M Budget | $6,999,135     
14 (7)  Gemini Man   $1,800,000  (-56%)  | 1,872 Theaters | $962 Avg. | $138M Budget | $46,834,069     
15 (9)  The Current War: Director’s Cut   $1,236,000  (-53%)  | 1,082 Theaters | $1,142 Avg. | $30M Budget | $4,981,203

Downton Abbey   $1,200,000  (-38%)  | 912 Theaters | $1,316 Avg. | $13–20M Budget | $94,520,540
Abominable   $1,040,000  (-50%)  | 1,137 Theaters | $915 Avg. | $75M Budget | $58,450,855
Judy   $582,625  (-52%)  | 604 Theaters | $965 Avg. | $22,928,554     

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $634.4M Overseas Total | $934.0M Global Total

MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL:  $298.9M Overseas Total | $383.2M Global Total

DOWNTON ABBEY:  $84.1M Overseas Total | $178.6M Global Total
ABOMINABLE:  $101.2M Overseas Total | $159.5M Global Total
GEMINI MAN:  $104.8M Overseas Total | $151.7M Global Total

THE ADDAMS FAMILY:  $44M Overseas Total | $129.2M Global Total
AD ASTRA:  $74.6M Overseas Total | $124.1M Global Total
TERMINATOR: DARK FATE:  $94.6M Overseas Total | $123.6M Global Total
PARASITE:  $100.4M Overseas Total | $108M Global Total

ZOMBIELAND: DOUBLE TAP:  $27.8M Overseas Total | $87.1M Global Total
RAMBO: LAST BLOOD:  $38.9M Overseas Total | $83.6M Global Total

JUDY:  $10.1M Overseas Total | $33M Global Total
COUNTDOWN:  $3.7M Overseas Total | $21.4M Global Total
THE CURRENT WAR: DIRECTOR'S CUT:  $4.3M Overseas Total | $9.3M Global Total
DOCTOR SLEEP:  $5.6M Overseas/Global Total

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6 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

Joker is going to hit a billion (or get very close) in world box office. Color me shocked.

A billion without China, so more of the money will go back to the studio, though WB only financed half of the budget, so they'll have to split the box office take, too. Poor things, lol, but now there's some Warner exec probably mad they didn’t put up the whole $60-ish million themselves.

https://variety.com/2019/film/box-office/joker-box-office-profitable-superhero-movie-1203377839/

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1 hour ago, Silver Raven said:

Arctic Dogs opened with the worst total in history with a 2800 theater opening.

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/box-office-report/arctic-dogs-bombs-worst-opening-of-all-time-in-2800-theaters-181858.html

I guess there's only room for one (relatively) inexpensive animated movie at a time. Sorry, Arctic Dogs! I kept thinking, "Didn't that already get released a couple years ago?" but it's Rock Dog I had in mind:

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Midway is a surprise #1 as Doctor Sleep falls below the $25+ million projections.  Would it have made more in October, which only had Countdown as an actual horror release? Or maybe young audiences aren't that connected to The Shining, while older ones just weren't feeling a sequel without any Jack Nicholson/Stanley Kubrick involvement.

November 8–10, 2019 Estimates:

1 (N)  Midway   $17,500,000 | 3,242 Theaters | $5,398 Avg. | $100M Budget | $17,500,000*   
2 (N)  Doctor Sleep   $14,100,000 | 3,855 Theaters | $3,658 Avg. | $45–55M Budget | $14,100,000
3 (N)  Playing with Fire   $12,800,000 | 3,125 Theaters | $4,096 Avg. | $29.9M Budget | $12,800,000
4 (N)  Last Christmas   $11,600,000 | 3,448 Theaters | $3,364 Avg. | $25–30M Budget | $11,600,000
5 (1)  Terminator: Dark Fate   $10,799,870  (-63%)  | 4,086 Theaters | $2,643 Avg. | $185–196M Budget | $48,457,000

6 (2)  Joker   $9,200,000  (-32%)  | 2,806 Theaters | $3,279 Avg. | $55–70M Budget | $313,491,507
7 (3)  Maleficent: Mistress of Evil   $8,002,000  (-39%)  | 3,201 Theaters | $2,500 Avg. | $185M Budget | $97,301,901     
8 (4)  Harriet   $7,230,000  (-38%)  | 2,186 Theaters | $3,307 Avg. | $17M Budget | $23,463,140
9 (6)  Zombieland: Double Tap   $4,315,000  (-42%)  | 2,427 Theaters | $1,778 Avg. | $42–48M Budget | $66,655,483
10 (5)  The Addams Family   $4,100,000  (-51%)  | 2,674 Theaters | $1,533 Avg. | $40M Budget | $91,367,705

11 (12)  Jojo Rabbit   $3,942,000  (+69%)  | 802 Theaters | $4,915 Avg. | $9,117,882
12 (7)  Countdown   $2,800,000  (-51%)  | 1,829 Theaters | $1,531 Avg. | $6.5M Budget | $22,232,505
13 (11)  Parasite   $2,552,000  (n/c)  | 603 Theaters | $4,232 Avg. | $11M Budget | $11,278,976     
14 (9)  Motherless Brooklyn   $2,225,000  (-36%)  | 1,342 Theaters | $1,658 Avg. | $26M Budget | $7,382,074     
15 (8)  Black and Blue   $1,875,000  (-55%)  | 1,129 Theaters | $1,661 Avg. | $12M Budget | $19,056,865     

Arctic Dogs   $1,100,000  (-62%)  | 2,320 Theaters | $474 Avg. | $50M Budget | $4,868,345     
Better Days   $1,034,341 | 70 Theaters | $14,776 Avg. | $1,034,341     
Honey Boy   $288,825 | 4 Theaters | $72,206 Avg. | $3.5M Budget | $288,825     
Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice   $43,378  (-53%)  | 59 Theaters | $735 Avg. | $4,072,073     

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $671.2M Overseas Total | $984.7M Global Total
MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL:  $333.0M Overseas Total | $430.3M Global Total

TERMINATOR: DARK FATE:  $150.9M Overseas Total | $199.4M Global Total
BETTER DAYS:  $187.4M Overseas Total| $188.4M Global Total
GEMINI MAN:  $114.9M Overseas Total | $163M Global Total

THE ADDAMS FAMILY:  $63.4M Overseas Total | $154.7M Global Total
PARASITE:  $101.7M Overseas Total | $112.9M Global Total
ZOMBIELAND: DOUBLE TAP:  $35.3M Overseas Total | $101.9M Global Total

DOCTOR SLEEP:  $20M Overseas Total | $34.1M Global Total
COUNTDOWN:  $3.7M Overseas Total | $25.9M Global Total
MIDWAY:  $4.4M Overseas Total | $21.9M Global Total

PLAYING WITH FIRE:  $2.5M Overseas Total | $15.3M Global Total
LAST CHRISTMAS:  $3.1M Overseas Total | $14.7M Global Total

*Due to creative financing, "in the $30M-range, Lionsgate starts making money". (Deadline)

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Doctor Sleep seemed like an odd project. It was marketed as a sequel, but a lot of the ticket buying market is probably too young to have a connection to the original. 

As for those who do know The Shining, I suspect a lot of them were like me, "I know Kubrick, and you're no Kubrick."

Midway, sigh. . . It was one of the most important naval battles in history (not just WWII), and instead of a thoughtful examination of it like Nolan's Dunkirk, we get a movie directed by the guy who gave us Independence Day (which I like, but it's not exactly subtle.)

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On 11/3/2019 at 10:24 PM, Silver Raven said:

Arctic Dogs opened with the worst total in history with a 2800 theater opening.

Delgo had a wide opening and barely cracked $500K, so I don't know how granular they're getting here.

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3 hours ago, starri said:

Delgo had a wide opening and barely cracked $500K, so I don't know how granular they're getting here.

Oh wow, someone else who remembers that movie existing!

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3 hours ago, Trini said:

Oh wow, someone else who remembers that movie existing!

I only know it as the movie that James Cameron allegedly ripped off for Avatar.

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On 11/11/2019 at 4:03 PM, xaxat said:

Doctor Sleep seemed like an odd project. It was marketed as a sequel, but a lot of the ticket buying market is probably too young to have a connection to the original. 

As for those who do know The Shining, I suspect a lot of them were like me, "I know Kubrick, and you're no Kubrick."

Midway, sigh. . . It was one of the most important naval battles in history (not just WWII), and instead of a thoughtful examination of it like Nolan's Dunkirk, we get a movie directed by the guy who gave us Independence Day (which I like, but it's not exactly subtle.)

Roland Emmerich and cerebral...are not exactly a good match. Sam Mendes has done a World War I movie that's releasing later this year, 1917.

I wonder if a centennial tie-in might have been better for the box office because WWI is not the same "draw" as WWII; if only Dunkirk had come out a couple years earlier and Mendes had been inspired a bit sooner...

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17 hours ago, Dejana said:

Roland Emmerich and cerebral...are not exactly a good match. Sam Mendes has done a World War I movie that's releasing later this year, 1917.

I wonder if a centennial tie-in might have been better for the box office because WWI is not the same "draw" as WWII; if only Dunkirk had come out a couple years earlier and Mendes had been inspired a bit sooner...

I'm looking forward to that one, but like you, I wonder if it would've been better to release it sooner.  Just like I think it would been better for First Man's box office if they'd waited and released in around the 50th anniversary of the moon landing this past July.

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On 11/13/2019 at 4:22 PM, proserpina65 said:

I'm looking forward to that one, but like you, I wonder if it would've been better to release it sooner.  Just like I think it would been better for First Man's box office if they'd waited and released in around the 50th anniversary of the moon landing this past July.

After seeing First Man, I understand releasing it during awards season rather than counting on it being a big crowdpleaser. The flag controversy was ridiculous, but it's not a "rah rah" space movie, either. Awards buzz can make people more receptive to bleak/downer movies, but the reviews were good not great, so it just wasn't enough. Still, the anniversary publicity and summer weekdays could have padded the total some.

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16 hours ago, Dejana said:

After seeing First Man, I understand releasing it during awards season rather than counting on it being a big crowdpleaser. The flag controversy was ridiculous, but it's not a "rah rah" space movie, either. Awards buzz can make people more receptive to bleak/downer movies, but the reviews were good not great, so it just wasn't enough. Still, the anniversary publicity and summer weekdays could have padded the total some.

Oh, I totally get that they were going for awards season, but I still think it was a mistake since the nominations it actually got would likely still have happened for this year.

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Ford v Ferrari opens solidly while Charlie's Angels doesn't, as the Charlie's Angels (2000) opened to $40 million. Joker has now made ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!! Reportedly, Joaquin's salary was $4.5 million but that doesn't include any backend deals. I'm also interested in how much Todd Phillips and Bradley Cooper (he's one of its producers) are going to make, though a lot of the figures thrown out in those annual Forbes lists are guesstimates at best.

November 15–17, 2019 Estimates:

1 (N)  Ford v Ferrari   $31,037,000 | 3,528 Theaters | $8,797 Avg. | $97.6M Budget | $31,037,000     
2 (1)  Midway   $8,750,000  (-51%)  | 3,242 Theaters | $2,699 Avg. | $100M Budget | $35,140,773
3 (N)  Charlie’s Angels   $8,600,000 | 3,452 Theaters | $2,491 Avg. | $48–55M Budget | $8,600,000
4 (3)  Playing with Fire   $8,550,000  (-33%)  | 3,125 Theaters | $2,736 Avg. | $30M Budget | $25,497,824     
5 (4)  Last Christmas   $6,700,000  (-41%)  | 3,454 Theaters  (+6)  | $1,940 Avg. | $26M Budget | $22,575,765     

6 (2)  Doctor Sleep   $6,181,000  (-56%)  | 3,855 Theaters | $1,603 Avg. | $45–55M Budget | $25,039,159
7 (N)  The Good Liar    $5,656,000 | 2,439 Theaters | $2,319 Avg. | $10M Budget | $5,656,000     
8 (6)  Joker   $5,635,000  (-39%)  | 2,337 Theaters  (-469)  | $2,411 Avg. | $55–70M Budget | $322,599,593
9 (7)  Maleficent: Mistress of Evil   $5,247,000  (-38%)  | 2,549 Theaters  (-652)  | $2,058 Avg. | $185M Budget | $106,040,384
10 (8)  Harriet   $4,780,000  (-35%)  | 2,011 Theaters  (-175)  | $2,377 Avg. | $17M Budget | $31,882,990

11 (5)   Terminator: Dark Fate   $4,375,000  (-60%)  | 2,477 Theaters  (-1,609)  | $1,766 Avg. | $185–196M Budget | $56,885,077
12 (11)  Jojo Rabbit   $2,818,000  (-29%)  | 995 Theaters  (+193)  | $2,832 Avg. | $14M Budget | $13,597,498
13 (9)  Zombieland: Double Tap   $2,010,000  (-53%)  | 1,407 Theaters  (-1,020)  | $1,429 Avg. | $42–48M Budget | $70,393,247     
14 (13) Parasite   $1,935,000  (-25%)  | 620 Theaters  (+17)  | $3,121 Avg. | $11M Budget | $14,493,363
15 (10)  The Addams Family   $1,600,000  (-62%)  | 1,835 Theaters  (-839)  | $872 Avg. | $40M Budget | $94,550,241

Countdown   $1,230,000  (-57%)  | 946 Theaters  (-883)  | $1,300 Avg. | $6.5M Budget | $24,380,249
Honey Boy   $210,617  (-30%)  | 17 Theaters  (+13)  | $12,389 Avg. | $3.5M Budget | $584,714
Waves   $144,562 | 4 Theaters | $36,141 Avg. | $144,562
Everybody’s Everything   $61,281 | 29 Theaters | $2,113 Avg. | $455,807

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $694.0M Overseas Total | $1.017B Global Total

MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL:  $352.9M Overseas Total | $458.9M Global Total
TERMINATOR: DARK FATE:  $176.8M Overseas Total | $233.7M Global Total

ABOMINABLE:  $111.8M Overseas Total | $171.5M Global Total
THE ADDAMS FAMILY:  $74.1M Overseas Total | $168.6M Global Total
PARASITE:  $103.5M Overseas Total | $117.9M Global Total
ZOMBIELAND: DOUBLE TAP:  $40.7M Overseas Total | $111.0M Global Total

MIDWAY:  $28.9M Overseas Total | $64.0M Global Total
DOCTOR SLEEP:  $28.8M Overseas Total | $53.8M Global Total
FORD v FERRARI:  $21.4M Overseas Total | $52.4M Global Total  
LAST CHRISTMAS:  $13.0M Overseas Total | $35.5M Global Total
CHARLIE'S ANGELS:  $19.3M Overseas Total | $27.6M Global Total

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As I said in that movie's thread, I was a little surprised at how well Ford v Ferrari did. Racing movies aren't usually box office gold (just ask Steve McQueen) and this wasn't even NASCAR like Days of Thunder. I'm sure the big stars helped. Just like the lack thereof hurt this latest Charlie's Angels.

Ah well, it matters naught. Struggling media empire Disney has a little film called Frozen 2 coming out next week and that will obliterate everything in its path. Although Mr. Rogers may have a little something to say.

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52 minutes ago, AimingforYoko said:

As I said in that movie's thread, I was a little surprised at how well Ford v Ferrari did. Racing movies aren't usually box office gold (just ask Steve McQueen) and this wasn't even NASCAR like Days of Thunder. I'm sure the big stars helped. Just like the lack thereof hurt this latest Charlie's Angels.

Ah well, it matters naught. Struggling media empire Disney has a little film called Frozen 2 coming out next week and that will obliterate everything in its path. Although Mr. Rogers may have a little something to say.

In many other markets, Ford v Ferrari is called Le Mans '66, which would not have worked as well with US audiences.  The Numbers has a looser definition of "auto racing movie" than what I had imagined; animation is really propping up the stats:

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/keywords/Auto-Racing

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It looks like the chance Focus took on distributing Harriet paid off, at least modestly.  It's sad that it WAS a chance, but maybe Harriet's success will make the next chance less of one, if that makes any sense.

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On 11/17/2019 at 10:36 PM, methodwriter85 said:

I went to a 7:45 Saturday night showing for Charlie's Angels- it was barely half sold. Not shocked that it flopped, but I'm surprised at how much it flopped.

Does anybody else feel it flopped because it was seriously miscast? I mean, Kristen Stewart? Personally, I have never liked her as an actress, & from interviews, didn't really like her as a person either. In all the versions of Charlie's Angels, there was a certain amount of fun. Does anybody associate Kristen Stewart with the word fun? Also, it has a mediocre theme song.

After I posted the above, I was watching E! Daily Pop & they talked about the movie not doing well & they also said the casting was the problem. They talked a bit about other actresses they would have liked to see & Margot Robbie & Awkwafina both came up & I thought, YES, that would have been great. I just can't understand how anybody thought Kristen Stewart should have not only been cast, but she should be the funny one.

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2 hours ago, GaT said:

. They talked a bit about other actresses they would have liked to see & Margot Robbie & Awkwafina both came up & I thought, YES, that would have been great. I just can't understand how anybody thought Kristen Stewart should have not only been cast, but she should be the funny one.

Kristen Stewart REALLY tried to be funny, and some of the jokes did land, but a lot of them didn't, judging by the reaction of the theater I was at when I saw this showing. I agree that it was a mistake to cast her as the comic relief. She should've been the stuck-in-the-mud one against an actually funny person.

Margot Robbie and Awkwafina would've been great.

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Frozen II starts with the third biggest (wide) opening weekend for animation after Incredibles 2 and Finding Dory (summer releases). Elsa and Mr. Rogers will benefit from the coming Thanksgiving weekend. Knives Out officially opens this Wednesday but made $2 million in sneak previews on Friday and Saturday night.


1 (N)  Frozen II   $127,000,000 | 4,440 Theaters | $28,604 Avg. | $127,000,000
2 (1)  Ford v Ferrari   $16,000,000  (-49%)  | 3,528 Theaters | $4,535 Avg. | $97.6M Budget | $57,989,570
3 (N)  A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood   $13,500,000 | 3,235 Theaters | $4,173 Avg. | $25M Budget | $13,500,000     
4 (N)  21 Bridges   $9,300,000 | 2,665 Theaters | $3,490 Avg. | $33M Budget | $9,300,000
5 (2)  Midway   $4,700,000  (-45%)  | 2,627 Theaters  (-615)  | $1,789 Avg. | $100M Budget | $43,107,561

6 (4)  Playing with Fire    $4,615,000  (-45%)  | 2,760 Theaters  (-365)  | $1,672 Avg. | $29.9M Budget | $31,621,647
7 (7)  The Good Liar   $3,375,000  (-40%)  | 2,454 Theaters  (+15)  | $1,375 Avg. | $10M Budget | $11,765,794
8 (3)  Charlie’s Angels   $3,175,000  (-62%)  | 3,452 Theaters | $920 Avg. | $48–55M Budget | $25–30M Budget | $13,940,592
9 (5)  Last Christmas      $3,040,000  (-53%)  | 2,411 Theaters  (-1,043)  | $1,261 Avg. | $27,792,390     
10 (8)  Joker   $2,820,000  (-47%)  | 1,410 Theaters  (-927)  | $2,000 Avg. |$55–70M Budget | $326,931,813

11 (10)  Harriet   $2,310,000  (-50%)  | 1,346 Theaters  (-665)  | $1,716 Avg. | $17M Budget | $36,004,055
12 (9)  Maleficent: Mistress of Evil   $2,000,000  (-59%)  | 1,605 Theaters  (-944)  | $1,246 Avg. | $185M Budget | $108,923,058
13 (6)  Doctor Sleep   $1,860,000  (-69%)  | 1,476 Theaters  (-2,379)  | $1,260 Avg. | $45–55M Budget | $28,776,742
14 (12)  Jojo Rabbit   $1,500,000  (-46%)   | 787 Theaters  (-208)  | $1,906 Avg. | $14M Budget | $16,052,713
15 (14)  Parasite   $1,218,500  (-35%)  | 433 Theaters  (-187)  | $2,814 Avg. | $11M Budget | $16,461,937

Terminator: Dark Fate   $1,200,000  (-72%)  | 1,022 Theaters  (-1,455)  | $1,174 Avg. | $185–196M Budget | $59,531,297
Honey Boy   $269,280  (+32%)  | 44 Theaters  (+27)  | $6,120 Avg. | $3.5M Budget | $939,677    
The Lighthouse   $182,260  (-53%)  | 113 Theaters  (-177)  | $1,613 Avg. | $4M Budget | $10,172,945    

Waves   $168,760  (+26%)  | 21 Theaters  (+17)  | $8,036 Avg. | $335,991
Dark Waters   $110,000 | 4 Theaters | $27,500 Avg. | $110,000
Jay and Silent Bob Reboot   $64,688  (-62%)  | 5 Theaters  (-5)  | $12,938 Avg. | $10M Budget | $2,762,773     
Ad Astra   $28,000  (-35%)  | 50 Theaters  (-28)  | $560 Avg. | $80–100M Budget | $50,139,119     

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $708.8M Overseas Total | $1.035B Global Total

MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL:  $363.4M Overseas Total | $472.3M Global Total
FROZEN 2:  $223.2M Overseas Total | $350.2M Global Total
TERMINATOR: DARK FATE:  $189.8M Overseas Total | $249.3M Global Total

PARASITE:  $105M Overseas Total | $121.5M Global Total
ZOMBIELAND: DOUBLE TAP:  $43.3M Overseas Total | $114.8M Global Total
FORD v FERRARI:  $45.8M Overseas Total | $103.8M Global Total

MIDWAY:  $42.3M Overseas Total | $85.4M Global Total
DOCTOR SLEEP:  $33.6M Overseas Total | $62.3M Global Total
LAST CHRISTMAS:  $24M Overseas Total | $51.7M Global Total
CHARLIE'S ANGELS:  $29.6M Overseas Total | $43.5M Global Total

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23 hours ago, Dejana said:

Frozen II starts with the third biggest (wide) opening weekend for animation after Incredibles 2 and Finding Dory (summer releases).

I think that's a sign of the Apocalypse.

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November 29 – December 1, 2019 Estimates:

1 (1)  Frozen II   $85,250,000  (-35%)  | 4,098 Theaters  (-342)  | $20,803 Avg. | $287,573,344     
2 (N)  Knives Out   $27,022,000  | 3,461 Theaters | $7,808 Avg. | $40M Budget | $41,700,000
3 (2)  Ford v Ferrari   $13,221,000  (-16%)  | 3,446 Theaters  (-82)  | $3,837 Avg. | $97.6M Budget | $81,003,779
4 (3)  A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood   $11,795,000  (-11%)  | 3,235 Theaters | $3,646 Avg. | $25–45M Budget | $34,308,989
5 (N)  Queen & Slim   $11,680,000 | 1,690 Theaters | $6,911 Avg. | $17–20M Budget | $15,790,000     

6 (4)  21 Bridges   $5,820,000  (-37%)  | 2,665 Theaters | $2,184 Avg. | $33M Budget | $19,448,268
7 (6)  Playing with Fire   $4,200,000  (-7%)  | 2,679 Theaters  (-81)  | $1,568 Avg. | $29.9M Budget | $39,203,808     
8 (5)  Midway   $3,957,000  (-15%)  | 2,377 Theaters  (-250)  | $1,665 Avg. | $100M Budget | $50,278,625
9 (10)  Joker   $2,030,000  (-26%)  | 1,146 Theaters  (-264)  | $1,771 Avg. | $55–70M Budget | $330,601,522
10 (9)  Last Christmas   $1,980,000  (-36%)  | 1,852 Theaters  (-559)  | $1,069 Avg. | $25–30M Budget | $31,658,680     

11 (11)  Harriet   $1,900,000  (-18%)  | 1,084 Theaters  (-262)  | $1,753 Avg. | $17M Budget | $39,512,300
12 (7)  The Good Liar   $1,605,000  (-53%)  | 2,003 Theaters  (-451)  | $801 Avg. | $10M Budget | $14,925,064     
13 (12)  Maleficent: Mistress of Evil   $1,360,000  (-34%)  | 991 Theaters  (-614)  | $1,372 Avg. | $185M Budget | $111,579,957
14 (8)  Charlie’s Angels   $1,260,000  (-61%)  | 3,156 Theaters  (-296)  | $399 Avg. | $48–55M Budget | $16,840,171     
15 (14)  Jojo Rabbit    $1,223,000  (-23%)  | 708 Theaters  (-79)  | $1,727 Avg. | $14M Budget | $18,360,635     

Parasite   $1,020,000  (-19%)  | 382 Theaters  (-51)  | $2,670 Avg. | $11M Budget | $18,280,000
Dark Waters   $630,000  (+514%)  | 94 Theaters  (+90)  | $6,702 Avg. | $972,484     
Honey Boy   $390,850  (+55%)  | 186 Theaters  (+142)  | $2,101 Avg. | $3.5M Budget | $1,516,598
Waves   $140,000  (-16%)  | 21 Theaters | $6,667 Avg. | $556,752     
63 Up   $15,250 | 1 Theater | $15,250 Avg. | $20,015

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $717.7M Overseas Total | $1.048B Global Total

FROZEN 2:  $451.0M Overseas Total | $738.6M Global Total
MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL:  $363.0M Overseas Total | $474.6M Global Total

FORD V FERRARI:  $62.0M Overseas Total | $143.0M Global Total
MIDWAY:  $55.8M Overseas Total | $106.0M Global Total

KNIVES OUT:  $28.3M Overseas Total | $70.0M Global Total
LAST CHRISTMAS:  $36.2M Overseas Total | $67.8M Global Total
CHARLIE'S ANGELS:  $36.4M Overseas Total | $51.4M Global Total

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Wow, Knives Out made back it's budget it the first week. That's awesome! I saw the movie and liked it a lot, but even if I hadn't I'm always rooting for these types of mid-budget original films to do well.

Between this and the solid numbers the Murder on the Orient Express remake did a couple of years ago, I wonder if we might see a mini-revival of the "murder mystery with a starry cast" genre.

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If a studio decides to drop a new release on 2,000+ screens the weekend after Thanksgiving, they don't have high hopes for it, but Playmobil: The Movie failed to meet even the lowest expectations. It did get off to a marginally better start than Delgo ($511K) and The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure ($443K), but in slightly more theaters.

December 6–8, 2019 Estimates:

1 (1)  Frozen II   $34,670,000  (-60%)  | 4,348 Theaters  (-92)  | $7,974 Avg. | $150M+ Budget | $337,594,901     
2 (2)  Knives Out   $14,150,000  (-47%)  | 3,461 Theaters | $4,088 Avg. | $40M Budget | $63,486,491
3 (3)  Ford v Ferrari   $6,537,000  (-50%)  | 3,746 Theaters  (+161)  | $1,745 Avg. | $97.6M Budget | $91,110,353     
4 (4)  Queen & Slim   $6,530,000  (-45%)  | 1,715 Theaters  (+25)  | $3,808 Avg. | $17–20M Budget | $26,894,005     
5 (5)  A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood   $5,200,000  (-56%)  | 3,491 Theaters  (+256)  | $1,490 Avg. | $43,120,415
6 (19)  Dark Waters   $4,100,000  (+560%)  | 2,012 Theaters  (+1,918)  | $2,038 Avg. | $5,284,749
7 (6)  21 Bridges   $2,880,000  (-48%)  | 2,465 Theaters  (-200)  | $1,168 Avg. | $33M Budget | $23,932,696     
8 (7)  Playing with Fire   $2,000,000  (-53%)  | 2,253 Theaters  (-426)  | $888 Avg. | $29.9M Budget | $41,982,325
9 (8)  Midway   $1,940,000  (-51%)  | 2,100 Theaters  (-277)  | $924 Avg. | $100M Budget | $53,402,471
10 (10)  Joker  $1,040,000  (-47%)  | 956 Theaters  (-190)  | $1,088 Avg. | $62.5M Budget | $332,141,623

Last Christmas    $1,010,000  (-50%)  | 1,260 Theaters  (-592)  | $802 Avg. | $25–30M Budget | $33,447,175     
Harriet   $810,000  (-56%)  | 1,000 Theaters  (-84)  | $810 Avg. | $17M Budget | $40,851,550
Parasite   $700,000 | 333 Theaters  (-49)  | $2,102 Avg. | $11M Budget | $19,353,735
Playmobil: The Movie   $670,000 | 2,337 Theaters | $287 Avg. | $40M Budget | $670,000

Honey Boy   $452,439  (+23%)  | 460 Theaters  (+274)  | $984 Avg. | $3.5M Budget | $2,139,465
Waves   $421,000  (+200%)  | 570 Theaters  (+523)  | $739 Avg. | $1,045,450     
En Brazos de un Asesino   $230,000 | 160 Theaters | $1,438 Avg. | $230,000     
Charlie’s Angels   $215,000  (-83%)  | 703 Theaters  (-2,453)  | $306 Avg. | $48–55M Budget | $17,504,006
Portrait of a Lady on Fire   $67,105 | 2 Theaters | $33,553 Avg. | $67,105

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $722.8M Overseas Total | $1.055B Global Total

FROZEN 2:  $582.1M Overseas Total | $919.7M Global Total
MALEFICENT: MISTRESS OF EVIL:  $363M Overseas Total | $475.3M Global Total

TERMINATOR: DARK FATE:  $188.6M Overseas Total | $250.4M Global Total
FORD V FERRARI:  $76.5M Overseas Total | $167.6M Global Total
HUSTLERS:  $45.5M Overseas Total | $150.5M Global Total

PARASITE:  $105.0M Overseas Total | $124.4M Global Total
KNIVES OUT:  $60.6M Overseas Total | $124.1M Global Total
MIDWAY:  $67.2M Overseas Total | $120.6M Global Total

LAST CHRISTMAS:  $51.3M Overseas Total | $84.7M Global Total
CHARLIE'S ANGELS:  $38.4M Overseas Total | $55.9M Global Total
JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL:  $52.5M Overseas & Global Total

PLAYING WITH FIRE:  $5.5M Overseas Total | $47.5M Global Total
21 BRIDGES:  $6.0M Overseas Total | $30.0M Global Total
THE GOOD LIAR:  $9.6M Overseas Total | $25.7M Global Total
PLAYMOBIL: THE MOVIE:  $12.4M Overseas Total | $13.0M Global Total

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13 minutes ago, Dejana said:

Playmobil: The Movie failed to meet even the lowest expectations.

I literally did not see a single ad for this.

Disney is the first studio to gross $10b worldwide (in a single year), and there's still Star Wars to go.

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Last Christmas is doing so-so/underwhelming in the US but seems to be doing better (overall) worldwide. Could this movie be considered a hit/moderate success?

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2 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

I literally did not see a single ad for this.

Disney is the first studio to gross $10b worldwide (in a single year), and there's still Star Wars to go.

Playmobil is being released stateside by STX. They already had Uglydolls this year, which flopped with just $20 million total domestic, but that's Endgame money compared to this. The studio probably figured there was no hope for the Lego Movie ripoff regardless and redirected whatever advertising $$$ they would have spent for it to JLo's Oscar push for Hustlers

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More about Disney's $10 billion year. Their theatrical slate for 2020 isn't as strong (at least on paper):

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32 minutes ago, Darlin said:

Last Christmas is doing so-so/underwhelming in the US but seems to be doing better (overall) worldwide. Could this movie be considered a hit/moderate success?

Worldwide, I think Last Christmas counts as a modest success. Before the trailers, I was hoping it could hit Love Actually (unadjusted) numbers ($59 million). In America, at least, Christmas movies with a romantic angle start saturating whole channels before Halloween, so IMO it's harder for theatrical releases covering somewhat similar terrain to stand out. 

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4 hours ago, Dejana said:

Worldwide, I think Last Christmas counts as a modest success. Before the trailers, I was hoping it could hit Love Actually (unadjusted) numbers ($59 million). In America, at least, Christmas movies with a romantic angle start saturating whole channels before Halloween, so IMO it's harder for theatrical releases covering somewhat similar terrain to stand out

I thought the trailers made it too obvious for me that

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either Henry was a a ghost, or Louisa Clarke was going to be the one that dies this time. Shocker, it was the first one!

I'm not too surprised it flopped in the U.S. I'm still pissed that I sat my way through Their Finest and was

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rewarded with Sam Claflin dying yet again.

There's just too much crap in the world for me to want to watch a romantic comedy where

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the leading man was dead all along. That's just bullshit.

I mean, if you package something as a romantic drama, that's one thing. But they were positioning this as a Love Actually, and

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I think the people who saw that and didn't realize what they were signing up for might've have been pissed.

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December 13–15, 2019 Estimates:

1 (N)  Jumanji: The Next Level   $60,100,000 | 4,227 Theaters | $14,218 Avg. | $125–132M Budget | $60,100,000     
2 (1)  Frozen II   $19,182,000  (-45%)  | 4,078 Theaters  (-270)  | $4,704 Avg. | $150M Budget | $366,542,072     
3 (2)  Knives Out   $9,250,000  (-35%)  | 3,413 Theaters  (-48)  | $2,710 Avg. | $40M Budget | $78,927,248     
4 (N)  Richard Jewell   $5,000,000 | 2,502 Theaters | $1,998 Avg. | $45M Budget | $5,000,000     
5 (N)  Black Christmas   $4,420,000 | 2,625 Theaters | $1,684 Avg. | $5M Budget | $4,420,000     
6 (3)  Ford v Ferrari   $4,143,000  (-38%)  | 2,895 Theaters  (-851)  | $1,431 Avg. | $97.6M Budget | $98,247,794     
7 (4)  Queen & Slim   $3,600,000  (-46%)  | 1,560 Theaters  (-155)  | $2,308 Avg. | $17–20M Budget | $33,174,870
8 (5)  A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood   $3,355,000  (-35%)  | 2,855 Theaters  (-636)  | $1,175 Avg. | $25M Budget | $49,329,891
9 (6)  Dark Waters   $2,000,000  (-50%)  | 2,110 Theaters  (+98)  | $948 Avg.  | $8,889,174
10 (7)  21 Bridges   $1,190,000  (-58%)  | 1,533 Theaters  (-932)  | $776 Avg. | $33M Budget | $26,361,366

Parasite   $632,000  (-10%)  | 306 Theaters  (-27)  | $2,065 Avg. | $11M Budget | $20,356,718
Uncut Gems   $537,242 | 5 Theaters | $107,448 Avg. | $537,242     
Joker   $465,000  (-54%)  | 553 Theaters  (-403)  | $841 Avg. | $55–70M Budget | $333,035,374
Harriet   $450,000  (-46%)  | 648 Theaters  (-352)  | $694 Avg. | $17M Budget | $41,773,165 

Jojo Rabbit   $375,000  (-33%)  | 400 Theaters  (-179)  | $938 Avg. | $14M Budget | $19,981,764
Bombshell   $312,100 | 4 Theaters | $78,025 Avg. | $32M Budget | $312,100
Playmobil: The Movie   $170,000  (-74%)  | 1,458 Theaters  (-879)  | $117 Avg. | $40M Budget | $992,723
A Hidden Life   $52,000 | 5 Theaters | $10,400 Avg. | $7–9M Budget | $52,000

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International Box Office:

JOKER:  $726.7M Overseas Total | $1.059B Global Total
FROZEN 2:  $666.0M Overseas Total | $1.032B Global Total

FORD V FERRARI:  $86.4M Overseas Total | $184.6M Global Total
JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL:  $85.7M Overseas Total | $152.5M Global Total

KNIVES OUT:  $63.5M Overseas Total | $142.4M Global Total
PARASITE:  $105.0M Overseas Total | $125.4M Global Total
LAST CHRISTMAS:  $34.3M Overseas Total | $100.8M Global Total

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6 hours ago, JessePinkman said:

 

EDIT: He's talking about a rerelease of Avatar, not the sequel. I'll keep up anyway.

I have no desire to see it again. Good worldbuilding, great visuals. Bad story, boring lead actor.

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21 hours ago, Anduin said:

I have no desire to see it again. Good worldbuilding, great visuals. Bad story, boring lead actor.

I won't see it either, but I think it will be interesting to see how much of the original draw was due to the relative novelty of 3D back then.

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker has the worst opening weekend of this latest trilogy. Cats bombs spectacularly, but maybe it will play better overseas.  

December 20–22, 2019 Final Numbers:

1 (N)  Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker  $177,383,864 | 4,406 Theaters | $40,260 Avg. | $250–300M Budget | $177,383,864     
2 (1)  Jumanji: The Next Level   $26,505,147  (-55%)  | 4,227 Theaters | $6,270 Avg. | $125–132M Budget | $102,316,512     
3 (2)  Frozen II   $12,980,927  (-32%)  | 3,665 Theaters  (-413)  | $3,542 Avg. | $150M Budget | $387,214,888     
4 (N)  Cats   $6,619,870 | 3,380 Theaters | $1,959 Avg. | $80–100M Budget | $6,619,870
5 (3)  Knives Out   $6,503,186  (-29%)  | 2,535 Theaters  (-878)  | $2,565 Avg. | $40M Budget | $89,952,095
6 (19)  Bombshell   $5,109,146  (+1,501%)  | 1,480 Theaters  (+1,476)  | $3,452 Avg. | $32M Budget | $5,518,427     
7 (4)  Richard Jewell   $2,583,372  (-45%)  | 2,502 Theaters | $1,033 Avg. | $45M Budget | $9,535,890     
8 (7)  Queen & Slim   $1,847,230  (-48%)  | 1,078 Theaters  (-482)  | $1,714 Avg. | $17–20M Budget | $36,595,995
9 (6)  Ford v Ferrari   $1,846,348  (-57%)  | 1,433 Theaters  (-1,462)  | $1,288 Avg. | $97.6M Budget | $102,007,956
10 (5)  Black Christmas   $1,838,015  (-57%)  | 2,625 Theaters | $700 Avg. | $5M Budget | $7,286,665

A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood   $1,337,366  (-59%)  | 1,524 Theaters  (-1,331)  | $878 Avg. | $25M Budget | $52,532,417
Parasite   $481,485  (-24%)  | 227 Theaters  (-79)  | $2,121 Avg. | $11M Budget | $21,226,894
Dark Waters   $317,720  (-83%)  | 451 Theaters  (-1,659)  | $704 Avg. | $10,073,329

A Hidden Life   $246,845  (+390%)  | 106 Theaters  (+101)  | $2,329 Avg. | $318,988     
Uncut Gems   $241,431  (-55%)  | 5 Theaters | $48,286 Avg. | $1,019,295
Jojo Rabbit   $190,400  (-49%)  | 230 Theaters  (-170)  | $828 Avg. | $14M Budget | $20,397,594

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International Box Office:

FROZEN 2:  $717.2M Overseas Total | $1.103B Global Total
JOKER:  $727.3M Overseas Total | $1.060B Global Total

STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER:  $198M Overseas Total | $373.5M Global Total
JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL:  $210M Overseas Total  | $312M Global Total

FORD V FERRARI:  $91M Overseas Total | $192.6M Global Total
KNIVES OUT:  $96.0M Overseas Total | $185.5M Global Total
PARASITE:  $105M Overseas Total | $126.2M Global Total
LAST CHRISTMAS:  $75.3M Overseas Total | $110.1M Global Total

CATS:  $4.4M UK/Overseas Total | $10.9M Global Total

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Yikes at CATS! Not surprised at the opening US numbers for Rise of Skywalker. I had a feeling poor word-of-mouth was going to result in lower numbers than what was originally predicted ($190 million), though some media outlets are saying ROS' numbers were impacted by the final weekend for Christmas shopping.

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35 minutes ago, AimingforYoko said:

More furries overseas?

They really love campy musicals in the UK (Mamma Mia outgrossed most of the Harry Potter movies and all of the LotRs there).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films_in_the_United_Kingdom

And there are other markets that take to Western musicals in a big way, like South Korea. Perhaps the overseas critics will only see the version with "improved visual effects" and that'll make all the difference. 😄

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4 hours ago, Darlin said:

Yikes at CATS! Not surprised at the opening US numbers for Rise of Skywalker. I had a feeling poor word-of-mouth was going to result in lower numbers than what was originally predicted ($190 million), though some media outlets are saying ROS' numbers were impacted by the final weekend for Christmas shopping.

The calendar configuration is a little different this year compared to 2015 and 2017, so it isn't as long of a wait, pushing a viewing to Christmas week vs. rushing out opening weekend. 

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The anarchist in me was hoping Cats! would get this morbid curiosity boost in its numbers.  People turning out just to see how awful/weird it is.  I haven't seen it yet but I'm looking forward to it for just that reason.  

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8 hours ago, kiddo82 said:

The anarchist in me was hoping Cats! would get this morbid curiosity boost in its numbers.  People turning out just to see how awful/weird it is.  I haven't seen it yet but I'm looking forward to it for just that reason.  

Part of me was morbidly curious and might want to go on Christmas just for a laugh, but my husband loathes musicals, and this is a movie best experienced in a group.

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6 hours ago, starri said:

Part of me was morbidly curious and might want to go on Christmas just for a laugh, but my husband loathes musicals, and this is a movie best experienced in a group.

I've heard others say this but I've also wondered myself if down the line it will have a Rocky Horror type following.

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When reviewers such as Ty Burr in the Boston Globe are reporting stray giggles that swell into uproarious, deafening laughter, at a scene that isn't supposed to be funny, it's all but guaranteed the movie will develop a "So bad it's good" following. But usually that doesn't happen in time to help a movie's first-run grosses. It happens over time, as more people rent/stream the movie for home viewing or catch it on television. 

I originally had no interest in Cats, but when I saw it was pulling a score in the teens on Rotten Tomatoes, and I started reading the pans, I did think, "I must see this!" Just not any time soon. 

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The Rise of Skywalker does have a better second week drop than The Last Jedi (-67%), but the latter had Christmas Eve in its weekend, a comparatively bad day for the box office (early theater closures + people occupied with other things). Usually, the third installment in a Star Wars trilogy rises from the second movie in popularity while falling short of the first, but TRoS might break the pattern. Disney won't lose money on this one, but attendance has fallen off dramatically from The Force Awakens, domestically ($936 million) and in total ($2 billion).

Little Women has the best opener of this week's new movies, though 1917 showed a strong start in limited release.


December 27–29, 2019 Final Numbers:

1 (1)  Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker   $72,389,590  (-59%)  | 4,406 Theaters | $16,430 Avg. | $275M Budget | $362,186,406     
2 (2)  Jumanji: The Next Level   $35,249,690  (+33%)  | 4,227 Theaters | $8,339 Avg. | $125–132M Budget | $175,485,472
3 (3)  Frozen II   $16,891,973  (+30%)  | 3,265 Theaters  (-400)  | $5,174 Avg. | $150M+ Budget | $421,682,862
4 (N)  Little Women   $16,755,310 | 3,308 Theaters | $5,065 Avg. | $40M Budget | $29,215,740 
5 (N)  Spies in Disguise   $13,354,798 | 3,502 Theaters | $3,813 Avg. | $22,242,654
6 (5)  Knives Out   $9,876,123  (+52%) | 2,022 Theaters  (-513)  | $4,884 Avg. | $40M Budget | $110,306,694    
7 (15)  Uncut Gems   $9,576,879  (+3,857%)  | 2,348 Theaters  (+2,343)  | $4,079 Avg. | $21,043,364     
8 (4)  Cats   $4,821,760  (-27%)  | 3,380 Theaters | $1,427 Avg. | $80–100M Budget | $17,811,935
9 (6)  Bombshell   $4,816,042  (-6%)  | 1,480 Theaters | $3,176 Avg. | $32M Budget | $15,757,144
10 (7)  Richard Jewell   $3,085,000  (+19%)  | 2,502 Theaters | $1,233 Avg. | $45M Budget | $16,139,186

11 (9)  Ford v Ferrari   $1,800,361  (-2%)  | 793 Theaters  (-640)  | $2,270 Avg. | $96.7M Budget | $106,138,720
12 (8)  Queen & Slim   $1,705,180  (-8%)  | 699 Theaters  (-379)  | $2,439 Avg. | $17–20M Budget | $40,113,460
13 (N)  IP Man 4: The Finale   $1,459,523 | 70 Theaters | $20,850 Avg. | $52M Budget | $1,868,874
14 (11)  A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood   $1,436,340  (+8%)  | 1,014 Theaters  (-510)  | $1,417 Avg. | $25M Budget | $55,852,119
15 (10)  Black Christmas   $854,360  (-54%)  | 1,514 Theaters  (-1,111)  | $601 Avg. | $5M Budget | $9,572,690

1917  $576,216 | 11 Theaters | $52,383 Avg. | $90M Budget | $1,014,315
Parasite   $569,267  (+18%)  | 170 Theaters  (-57)  | $3,349 Avg. | $11M Budget | $22,344,939 
Just Mercy   $109,000 | 4 Theaters | $27,250 Avg. | $227,072     

Last Christmas   $73,500  (-57%)  | 154 Theaters  (-120)  | $477 Avg. | $25M Budget | $35,086,485
The Song of Names   $41,156 | 10 Theaters | $4,116 Avg. | $77,477
Clemency   $35,364 | 2 Theaters | $17,682 Avg. | $35,364

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International Box Office:

FROZEN 2:  $796.3M Overseas Total | $1.217B Global Total

STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER:  $363M Overseas Total | $724.8M Global Total
MALEFICIENT:  $362.1M Overseas Total | $475.4M Global Total
JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL:  $296M Overseas Total | $471.4M Global Total

KNIVES OUT:  $95.6M Overseas Total | $205.8M Global Total
FORD V FERRARI:  $90.8M Overseas Total | $197M Global Total
PARASITE:  $105M Overseas Total | $127.4M Global Total
MIDWAY:  $66.4M Overseas Total | $122.6M Global Tota
IP MAN 4: THE FINALE:   $116.5M Global Total

CATS:  $20.6M Overseas Total | $38.4M Global Total
SPIES IN DISGUISE:  $16.0M Overseas Total | $38.1M Global Total
LITTLE WOMEN:  $6.3M Overseas Total | $35.3M Global Total

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