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Given circumstances who can blame him? I just wish the writing was there.

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Given how they wrote off Dante, the writers always left the door open.

27 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I just wish the writing was there.

I can see them either totally whitewashing the PTSD, or that will be his only character trait.

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Love that. I'm ready for him to come back. Then they can put Dustin with Brook Lynn so they can stop trying to make her work with Chase. Besides, kissing Sonny's butt aside, I've always liked Dante and, while he was better with JMB's Lulu, I do enjoy him with Lulu.

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13 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Love that. I'm ready for him to come back. Then they can put Dustin with Brook Lynn so they can stop trying to make her work with Chase. Besides, kissing Sonny's butt aside, I've always liked Dante and, while he was better with JMB's Lulu, I do enjoy him with Lulu.

It’s funny it never occurred to me that TPTB were trying to put Chase & Brook Lynn together but they are always given the typical banter hate to possible love interest storyline. I guess because Chase is so heavily involved in the Willow, Michael & Sasha universe. That said, I don’t know what the plans for Amanda Setton are on GH. She was so good on OLTL and she’s good as Brook Lynn but I don’t feel any sexual tension with between her with Chase or Dusty. I’m not sure what the issue is with her. Maybe, they need to pair her up with someone older like Michael E. Knight. He’s 61. She had good chemistry with Jerry ver Dorn and he was over 35 years older than her. 

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Yeah ending that on Laura with Sonny (ugh!) was just awful.

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5 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Ummmm, not so much actually...

 

They played this stupid promo relentlessly during the commercial breaks for the "History" of "Soaps" last night.🙄

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12 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

They played this stupid promo relentlessly during the commercial breaks for the "History" of "Soaps" last night.🙄

I haven't watched it yet but have been reading comments on FB. Man did the exec producer get BLASTED! 

 

Soap Opera Digest

47TH ANNUAL DAYTIME EMMY AWARDS TO BE TELECAST ON CBS

May 20, 2020 2:37PM

The 47th Annual Daytime Emmy® Awards will be presented in a two-hour special on Friday, June 26 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, CBS and the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences (NATAS) announced today. This will mark the 14th time CBS has broadcast the Daytime Emmys®, more than any other network. “The Daytime Emmys are coming home,” said Adam Sharp, President & CEO of NATAS. “For generations, daytime television has been a source of comfort and continuity that’s never been more important. We’re delighted to join with CBS in celebrating the programs and professionals who never cease to brighten our days.” “As a leader in Daytime, we are thrilled to welcome back the Daytime Emmy
Awards,” said Jack Sussman, Executive Vice President, Specials, Music and
Live Events for CBS. “Daytime television has been keeping viewers engaged and entertained for many years, so it is with great pride that we look forward to celebrating the best of the genre here on CBS.” Awards will be presented in leading categories during the telecast, with recipients and other special guests appearing from home in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. Additional categories will be announced simultaneously on Twitter (@DaytimeEmmys), and others will be presented in a separate ceremony in July. Nominees will be announced tomorrow, Thursday, May 21,
on THE TALK and ET Online.

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If Dante comes back, there's every chance that he'll end up in a filler romance on the way to Lulu endgame. That would be great, even if it's temporary, because I feel like he was diluted once NuLu hit the screen.

(P.S. Remember how her intro was a quasi-romance with Milo?!) 

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Man, if Dante ended up with BL for a hot second, I think Lulu's brain would melt out of her ear.  LOL.

 

I'm glad the Daytime Emmys are going to be on TV, even if it's sort of messed up because of distancing.  Really though, I think the filming situation caused by the pandemic is probably why they are putting it on tv at the last minute in the first place.

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Daytime Emmy noms are out. At least MoB didn't get a nod although I'm not sure how SBu got one. Is there a new category for 'best blinker'?

https://tvline.com/2020/05/21/daytime-emmys-nominations-list-2020-nominees-kelly-clarkson/

LEAD ACTRESS

Finola Hughes (Anna, GH)

Maura West (Ava, GH)

LEAD ACTOR

Steve Burton (Jason, GH)

Jon Lindstrom (Kevin/Ryan, GH)

SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Tamara Braun (ex-Kim, GH)

Rebecca Budig (ex-Hayden, GH)

SUPPORTING ACTOR

James Patrick Stuart (Valentin, GH)

OUTSTANDING YOUNGER ACTOR OR ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES
Katelyn MacMullen (Willow, GH)
Eden McCoy (Josslyn, GH)

OUTSTANDING GUEST PERFORMER IN A DRAMA SERIES
Michael Knight (Martin, GH)
 

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If being pleased that Laura and Mo didn't get noms is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

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No nomination for Mo?

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

I'm happy for Maura, Jon, and besties James and Michael. Also, happy for Wally for his Days nom.

William Lipton was robbed!

I wish Chloe Lanier had picked up a nom.

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1 minute ago, lb60 said:

William Lipton was robbed!

He really was. Why is there only one younger actor category, rather than two like the others?

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5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

He really was. Why is there only one younger actor category, rather than two like the others?

Personally, I think they should get rid of the category all together considering how few soaps there are now, unless they start counting international soaps.  My issue with the category is the age cap is way too high. What is it, 25?  If that category is to exist, it should be for people 22 years and under. Theoretically, people who don't have much formal acting training. By 25, you could have 4 years of college focusing on theatre and a couple years taking acting classes when you aren't working and auditioning. Kids on the other hand have to take the school requirements, can't work past a certain number of hours and have to have a guardian present at all times.  Plus the kids themselves more likely  not to engage the politics of getting Emmys.  Wasn't there a story where Adrienne Frantz  who was in her early twenties was openly pissed that Camryn Grimes, who was around 10 years old, bested her for the award?

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29 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

He really was. Why is there only one younger actor category, rather than two like the others?

They claimed that they combined them to allow for inclusion to those who don’t identify with traditional genders. I say claim because they didn’t do it for any of the other ones. It seems like they don’t want to come out and say that they don’t have the talent pool to justify 10 noms a year in those categories, at least combined with enough material to put together a reel. 

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3 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

If being pleased that Laura and Mo didn't get noms is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Well Laura really didn't have a story this last year.

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The Donna stuff was as close as she got, and there was nothing to it. Carly didn't stroke out, the baby was fine, etc.

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Yeah, I can't think of a damn thing that Carly could have been nominated for.  And Mo is dreadful.

 

ETA: the category combination might be a smart way of handling a possible issue before it becomes controversial.  With more and more younger people in general having nontraditional gender identifications, and probably stories that might reflect that in the future, that was DEFINITELY going to become a point of conflict eventually.  Now people have one less category to be offended by when their favorite non binary actor is in a role on soaps (maybe, if it happens).

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1 hour ago, ouinason said:

Yeah, I can't think of a damn thing that Carly could have been nominated for.  And Mo is dreadful.

Carly never has her own storylines. She is just involved in everyone's storylines. 

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1 hour ago, ouinason said:

Yeah, I can't think of a damn thing that Carly could have been nominated for.  And Mo is dreadful.

 

ETA: the category combination might be a smart way of handling a possible issue before it becomes controversial.  With more and more younger people in general having nontraditional gender identifications, and probably stories that might reflect that in the future, that was DEFINITELY going to become a point of conflict eventually.  Now people have one less category to be offended by when their favorite non binary actor is in a role on soaps (maybe, if it happens).

Issue for me with it is it is all girls who seem to have gotten the nomination. While that isn't a deal breaker, the fact that some on the boards are saying that Will Lipton was robbed, makes me think that they are engaging in gender politics.

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Katelyn deserved it if only for the scenes of Willow finding out that her son is dead.

I understand why Eden was nominated because while she's no great shakes, she had a lot to do as Joss mourned Oscar.

Lipton is a better actor but his storylines were more tangential.  Sure he got kidnapped twice and his stepfather mind-wiped but that wasn't as important to the show as Joss mourning Oscar endlessly or having to stay at home and be home-schooled.

I really hope that the Trina actress and Lipton both get nominations next year.

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I watched the History of Soaps and I LOVED it. Guess I’m just a dumb rube.  But it hit me right in the feels and brought me right back to when I started watching soaps and why I still do.  I would be so sad if the remaining 4 went off the air.  I love these shows.  I don’t care how bad they get I’d rather have them than not.  

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4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Katelyn deserved it if only for the scenes of Willow finding out that her son is dead.

I understand why Eden was nominated because while she's no great shakes, she had a lot to do as Joss mourned Oscar.

Lipton is a better actor but his storylines were more tangential.  Sure he got kidnapped twice and his stepfather mind-wiped but that wasn't as important to the show as Joss mourning Oscar endlessly or having to stay at home and be home-schooled.

I really hope that the Trina actress and Lipton both get nominations next year.

Here is my issue with both Katelyn and Thia Megia - I feel they are too old for the category.    I felt that way when Julie Berman was winning her Emmys as well. 

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9 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

My issue with the category is the age cap is way too high. What is it, 25?  If that category is to exist, it should be for people 22 years and under. Theoretically, people who don't have much formal acting training. By 25, you could have 4 years of college focusing on theatre and a couple years taking acting classes when you aren't working and auditioning. Kids on the other hand have to take the school requirements, can't work past a certain number of hours and have to have a guardian present at all times.  Plus the kids themselves more likely  not to engage the politics of getting Emmys.  Wasn't there a story where Adrienne Frantz  who was in her early twenties was openly pissed that Camryn Grimes, who was around 10 years old, bested her for the award?

I've always thought this was a problem. I remember when Sarah Brown won it a couple of years in a row, and while she did qualify on a purely numerical level, it just didn't seem right to have her competing against small children, when Carly was in front-burner adult stories, having sex on pool tables and all that.

In that same era, we had to watch little 7-year-old Bryant Jones crying (and being consoled by his 25-year-old Y/R costar and fellow nominee Joshua Morrow) while Jonathan Jackson collected another trophy. 

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31 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Here is my issue with both Katelyn and Thia Megia - I feel they are too old for the category.    I felt that way when Julie Berman was winning her Emmys as well. 

I agree. It doesn’t seem fair to compare people who are getting real, adult storylines to younger actors and it makes it almost impossible for actual kids to have a fair shot even when they are amazing. 

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Not sure where to put this, but the abc "Soaps" special was nothing special. Too produced for me. The clips were mostly shown so quickly, i could hardly see what was going on. Guess I'm getting old but still it was just too schmaltzy for me.  a few good moments though.

meh overall though

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Some of Benard's fans are saying in various places -- where outrage is high that he was snubbed -- that he "didn't submit." I don't know anything either way, but I'm surprised, if that's true. Whatever anyone thinks of what he did with it, and I don't think much, the Mike story has looked like awards bait.

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14 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Katelyn deserved it if only for the scenes of Willow finding out that her son is dead.

She did a great job with those, not overdoing things which could be so easy.

I do think 25 is a bit old for a "younger actor" category. It should probably be capped at 18 so that the stories for the younger actors are more comparable.

I think SBu and MB alternate submitting so that they don't have to compete with each other. Or if they don't alternate, they at least consult to be sure they aren't submitting in the same year.

I think MB will probably submit for this year. It's when the bulk of Mike's story happened, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had Mike die so that MB could submit. I hope Max Gail submits, too, as he's been so good.

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I follow them on twitter, and both Maurice and Max said they did not submit this year.

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Happy for Maura of course, but extremely happy for Rebecca as she really made the most of her exit scene and doesn't really get nominated for these. And yes, these are in no way the awards of the glory days when 11 or 12 soaps were on the air. I still think it's great for her, and they air on her birthday so that's kind of fun. Not that I have any illusions of her winning. As they say, I'm just happy she was nominated.

Will also be watching her next week as All My Children airs their reunion special. Because her and Josh Duhamel reunited, if only on a computer screen, is an answer to my long-awaited soap prayers.

 

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On 5/21/2020 at 3:52 PM, Ambrosefolly said:

Wasn't there a story where Adrienne Frantz  who was in her early twenties was openly pissed that Camryn Grimes, who was around 10 years old, bested her for the award?

If there was, I don't remember it, but she wound up winning it herself the year after CG anyway (CG won in 2000, AF in 2001).

Bring it back to GH, it's interesting to think that KMc won that award twice: the first time in 1989, when she was eleven, and the second time in 1996, when she was eighteen. 

On 5/22/2020 at 1:40 AM, Asp Burger said:

I've always thought this was a problem. I remember when Sarah Brown won it a couple of years in a row, and while she did qualify on a purely numerical level, it just didn't seem right to have her competing against small children, when Carly was in front-burner adult stories, having sex on pool tables and all that.

In that same era, we had to watch little 7-year-old Bryant Jones crying (and being consoled by his 25-year-old Y/R costar and fellow nominee Joshua Morrow) while Jonathan Jackson collected another trophy. 

Sarah Brown's first two wins (in 1997 and 1998) were in the Younger Actress category, but her third in 2000 was for Supporting Actress, so she was eventually moved up a notch (she lost the Younger Actress award in 1999 to Heather Tom, then on Y&R at the time; Becky was also nominated in the same category for Liz's rape story). 

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29 minutes ago, tvgoddess said:

Happy for Maura of course, but extremely happy for Rebecca as she really made the most of her Will also be watching her next week as All My Children airs their reunion special. Because her and Josh Duhamel reunited, if only on a computer screen, is an answer to my long-awaited soap prayers.

 

Sorry to go off-topic (sort of), but: really? Is it one of Alan Locher's reunions? 

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3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I suspect they're both waiting for the death scenes, especially MB.

The deep irony being that the death scenes may never happen, thanks to the show probably having to do a time jump or something after the lockdown.

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I suspect that MB didn’t nominate himself because his scenes last year weren’t that strong and it would mean he’d have essentially no chance the following year since he would be nominating himself for the same storyline 3 years in a row. Which is more a testament to how the show drags on storylines. But I also agree with the above poster who said that they aren’t going to do a big death scene now. Even if the show comes back this year and Max Gail is able to return, I can’t see them really continuing with the storyline the way it is now. 
 

Side-note, I just looked it up and it looks like MB has 7 total Daytime Emmy nominations: 6 for lead and 1 for supporting. While that’s still impressive, I figured he had more. He’s been on the show for so long and has consistently had storylines. 

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5 minutes ago, yowsah1 said:

The deep irony being that the death scenes may never happen, thanks to the show probably having to do a time jump or something after the lockdown.

Well Sonny is in serious denial and keeps ignoring what the doctors, his family and friends have said that Mike is ready to let go. If they do a fast forward, I can easily see Sonny still not coming to terms.

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11 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Some of Benard's fans are saying in various places -- where outrage is high that he was snubbed -- that he "didn't submit." I don't know anything either way, but I'm surprised, if that's true. Whatever anyone thinks of what he did with it, and I don't think much, the Mike story has looked like awards bait.

That will be for next year. This year’s awards are for 2019 work.

21 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Well Sonny is in serious denial and keeps ignoring what the doctors, his family and friends have said that Mike is ready to let go. If they do a fast forward, I can easily see Sonny still not coming to terms.

I certainly hope they don’t have mike linger like this for 4-6 months longer! Just let him go offscreen and be done with it. 

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1 hour ago, yowsah1 said:

The deep irony being that the death scenes may never happen, thanks to the show probably having to do a time jump or something after the lockdown.

Even with a time jump (please end the Wylie custody hearing), they can do flashbacks while Sonny tries to come to terms with Mike's death. At worst, we won't have to hear endless people telling Sonny to let Mike die with dignity as he refuses to listen.

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Go Maura!!

13 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I do think 25 is a bit old for a "younger actor" category. It should probably be capped at 18 so that the stories for the younger actors are more comparable.

I totally agree. If they want to recognize the work of children, the nominees should be, well, children. If adults are too inexperienced to compete against more seasoned adults, they should wait until they become more seasoned. Not everybody needs an award.

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Even with a time jump (please end the Wylie custody hearing), they can do flashbacks while Sonny tries to come to terms with Mike's death. At worst, we won't have to hear endless people telling Sonny to let Mike die with dignity as he refuses to listen.

Yeah, there’s no way they’re gonna pass up the opportunity to milk the big death scene for all its worth. It will be in flashbacks, at the very least. Although, you know, flashbacks don’t preclude your second sentence from happening—in flashbacks. 😉

On 5/21/2020 at 1:40 PM, Sake614 said:

OUTSTANDING GUEST PERFORMER IN A DRAMA SERIES IMPERSONATION OF A KENTUCKY COLONEL 
Michael Knight (Martin, GH)

Winner!

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On the British soap awards I think the cut off for younger actors category I don't think anyone over 18 is nominated for it.

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13 hours ago, ffwbe said:

But I also agree with the above poster who said that they aren’t going to do a big death scene now. Even if the show comes back this year and Max Gail is able to return, I can’t see them really continuing with the storyline the way it is now. 

I'm curious why people feel this way. I think the Mike story could continue as is and then we get a time jump, or we get a time jump and Mike's on his deathbed. I can't see them depriving MB, especially, of such a giant emotional story to play. It's the only story he's got going on—the rest is just Sonny strolling around town. 

The Cyrus story is the one I want to end. Nothing is happening. We don't even see Cyrus planning anything. What a waste of Jeff Kober, not that that's a surprise.

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14 hours ago, tvgoddess said:

I still think it's great for her, and they air on her birthday so that's kind of fun.

Aw, her birthday is the day before mine! Also, do you have a link to the AMC reunion? 

14 hours ago, UYI said:

Sarah Brown's first two wins (in 1996 and 1997) were in the Younger Actress category, but her third in 2000 was for Supporting Actress, so she was eventually moved up a notch (she lost the Younger Actress award in 1999 to Heather Tom, then on Y&R at the time; Becky was also nominated in the same category for Liz's rape story). 

BH didn't win for Liz's rape story? That surprises me.

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27 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

BH didn't win for Liz's rape story? That surprises me.

She didn't. And it was her only nomination until 2007, when she was up for Supporting Actress (and I think she's only been nominated once more since then).

Also, I realized I had SJB's first two win dates wrong: they were in 1997 and 1998; she JOINED the show in 1996, too early for her win an Emmy that year! lol

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50 minutes ago, UYI said:

She didn't. And it was her only nomination until 2007, when she was up for Supporting Actress (and I think she's only been nominated once more since then).

Which is a shame. Does she not enter like Jane Elliot?

 

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1 hour ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Which is a shame. Does she not enter like Jane Elliot?

 

I don't think she does; I remember an SOD interview she did after her 2007 nomination, and it sounded like it came as a big surprise to her; the clip used during the ceremony was her confronting GV's Lucky about his drug addiction. ("Your habit, Lucky, is ruining our lives.")

Also, this is probably a UO, but I actually don't have as much of a problem with the age discrepancy in the Younger Actor/Actress category; the majority of nominees have been in their teens/early twenties; there really haven't been THAT many super young, child-age nominees or winners. Most kids on soaps wind up being those who appear very rarely with their parents giving them milk or cookies and then sent on their merry way; having someone like KMc or JJ,  who got real opportunities to stretch their acting muscles before they hit puberty are the exception, not the rule. So while having a child nominated with a 25 year old can be...odd, I can see why it has happened: there are usually not very many children in soaps to justify their own category away from the teens/young adults. I suppose there could be an honorary award, similar to Juvenile Award that the Oscars used to have back in the day (with winners that included Judy Garland and Hayley Mills), where a very young performer who otherwise doesn't fit those age requirements above gets recognized for their work with their own Emmy, but that's about the only solution I can think of (and the Oscars did away with it after 1960, anyway). 

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As much as I watched the latest Nurses Balls with 😒😒😒😒😳🥺🙄🙄🙄 with the exception of Rick Springfield playing himself and people saying he looked like Noah, because nobody was acting during those performances-they all looked like they were having fun! And Robert Cold Cocking Valentin, I’m pissed that Comcrap/my local affiliate continues to preempt three times a week, but no longer reairs them in the wee hours, nor does the App or on demand offer them to watch! Why should I be deprived of snarking? Or gushing? Or 🙄🙄🙄

And while I HATED the retcon of Luke’s DID, I did like that episode. But stupid preemption!!

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16 minutes ago, UYI said:

So while having a child nominated with a 25 year old can be...odd, I can see why it has happened: there are usually not very many children in soaps to justify their own category away from the teens/young adults.

There's a big difference in the stories you can do with teens who aren't yet 18, though, and actors who are older. But I agree that the younger kids aren't a big enough group to regularly justify their own category.

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19 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

There's a big difference in the stories you can do with teens who aren't yet 18, though, and actors who are older. But I agree that the younger kids aren't a big enough group to regularly justify their own category.

That's fair. I'll admit my idea wasn't perfect, lol. But I do think an honorary Juvenile Award would be a fair compromise, and I think the Oscars should probably have kept it too: look how awkward it is the few times kids are up against seasoned adults! When Tatum O'Neal won her Supporting Actress Oscar for Paper Moon in 1973, the only other nominee in her age range in her category was Linda Blair in The Exorcist; every other nominee was an adult! 

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