GH In The News: The PC Press Club

[Francie]

At first I thought she was doing this for attention, but then it quickly started freefalling down hill.

Oh, I think she did start off by doing it for attention. She "@"-ed Shonda Rhimes about it.  She just didn't think beyond that. 

 

Someone's going to have to explain it to WdV, in really short words, why his champion and screen partner is in a whole lotta trouble right now.

 

Nancy's still at it this morning, whining about why people aren't accepting her apology.  She just needs to take a twitter break right now.

 

And saying that a black female winner should have had someone else write her speech? Beyond all things that are condescending and annoying about that, does the woman not know that Hattie McDaniel -- the first African American to win an academy award for acting -- wasn't allowed by the studio to write her own speech?  Even in Hollywood, they segregated her from the rest of the cast and made her sit at a table in the back while the rest of the cast sat up front. And they didn't "trust" what she would say should she win, so she was given a speech to read. She even had to say that she hoped she was a credit to her race:

 

https://youtu.be/e7t4pTNZshA

 

So, STFU, Nancy. Or as people are saying on twitter, stay in your lane. Like any black actress was considered for Julia Wainright, Alexis Cassadine, or even though bit parts you played on Murder, She Wrote or Little House on Prairie. That's the point.

[JayD83]

I had a long drawn out post ready to go but I don't want to come off as a black bigot, so whatevs.  GH is coming off my DVR and I have half of a mind to demand that sponsors pull out.  Hey, if the nurses can do it to the View....

[UYI]

I'm just wondering if/when Shonda Rhimes is going to speak up. Because if it hasn't gotten real for Nancy already, it will be once Shonda is finished with her.

[Badsamaritan]

She is still tweeting this morning, y'all. Log off, ma'am. Oh, and ABC, Frank, and Nathan need to come collect their employee.

[Chairperson Meow]

I feel like Bryan Craig has been challenged.

[katie9918]

Has she been up all night? It looks like she's sending a lot of apologies but still engaging some of these people.

Jeez. She should have apologized and gone to bed.

[KerleyQ]

How hard is it to simply tweet "I apologize for my earlier remarks. I was trying to be witty but wildly missed the mark and landed on offensive instead. I promise to do better in the future" and then log the hell off and go to bed? 

 

But, no, go with staying up all night replying to everyone who tweets to you.  Don't worry, you'll totally stay mentally sharp as the hours of no sleep go on, and you won't remotely risk saying something even more offensive in your sleep deprived state.  

[Francie]

Nancy is, not very wisely, trying to play the victim card too.  "Why's everyone so mean on twitter?" is not a way out of it. You've told your followers to sic people, Nancy. Usually they've been trolls, and that's the nature of twitter. Things snowball to an avalanche very quickly.  And the variation of "my best friend is black" with the "I support your causes and the last two Democratic presidents" is only going to fuel the fire. Usually  the smartest way out of it is a succinct, genuine apology that recognizes what has ticked people off, and then shut up for awhile. A long while.

 

Twitter's taken down Todd Akin. It's taken down the woman who joked about being white and not getting AIDS. It's not a forum for the faint of heart if you're going to say controversial things like she is.

 

Shonda Rhimes may barely notice or care. Just shake her head and dismiss it, possibly. But if she wanted to make an issue of one ABC employee belittling another ABC employee on social media for her remarks upon receiving the pinnacle award of the industry, she could press it if she wanted.

Edited September 21, 2015 by Francie

[UYI]

...And it's made USA Today:

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/09/21/twitter-bashes-soap-star-after-critical-tweets-viola-davis-emmy-win/72554264/

[Francie]

She stopped tweeting a few hours ago, but she's show up in my national trends right now.  People must be waking up to it and reading it.

 

United States Trends · Change

#PeaceDay
 Promoted by World Food Programme
#MondayMorning
#biweek
#TGIM
#MeatlessMonday
#jhudash
#WorldGratitudeDay
#nancyleegrahn
#CelebrateMonday
#WorldAlzheimersDay
#MusicMondays

[UYI]

I love that her name is right under #WorldGratitudeDay. How ironic.

[aw86]

Nancy Lee Grahn also apparently thinks the Underground Railroad was an actual underground railroad.  She never learns when to stop tweeting, put down the wine, and go to bed.  

 

Nancy Lee Grahn ‏@NancyLeeGrahn  3h3 hours ago Los Angeles, CA
@xxxxx and i heard harriet yTubman and I thought Its a fucking emmy for gods sake. She wasnt digging thru a tunnel

[dubbel zout]

For someone who enjoys every opportunity to speak her mind, Grahn picked a galactically bad time to call out someone else for it. Oh, Nancy!

 

She needs to make one last sincere apology and then get off Twitter.

[BestestAuntEver]

I don't think Nancy understands she is attempting to go up against black twitter. Black twitter can take this fu key in shifts. It looks like the west coast tore into her last night and the east coast woke up and started in. They have meme and videos bow associated with her stupidity.

E Online has a linked article, other online sites are picking up. She definitely should have apologized and taken her ass to bed.

I guess she learned her twitter followers can't fight black twitter.

I'm so glad I dropped this shitfest.

Edited September 21, 2015 by BestestAuntEver

[ByaNose]

NLG needs a long Twitter break. She always thinks she's being provocative but in reality she is just being stupid. I like her on GH and I like Alexis but she needs to know she doesn't know everything or speaks for all of woman kind. That said, I'm not really sure the higher ups could do anything to her. It's her opinion but she she probably should have kept it to herself. Also, it ain't great ABC synergy going after your networks biggest star and show. A major fail.

[admiralrodcocker]

Sad that this is so much more interesting than the show. A relevant issue in today's world with a player we care about (whether we like her or not; she has a long history with the show), and keeping us on the edge of our seats, can't wait to see what happens next, sparking discussion and real talk and emotion. Soaps need to take note!

[Badsamaritan]

Yeah, she just continued to dig a deeper hole for herself. Apologize and shut the fuck up, period. I think it was her continuing to tweet dumber & dumber shit, and then pull a pity party out her ass that really set Black twitter off.

Oh, Frank, gather your children man!

[Sake614]

I was just coming on here to post about NLG. Damn, woman, quit while you're behind! Black, white, green or purple, Viola Davis is 1000 times the actor you are, and deserves to be recognized for her accomplishments.

[ulkis]

I'm reading another poster summing up some of her tweets

 

I'm reading her tweets. She went on all night. literally all night defending herself, telling people they have to have compassion for her because she grew up in 50s and never saw color. Then when someone called her on that and was like you lived right next to a club that wouldn't let black people in. She went all and my family did everything to try to shut it down. Then she told someone to F off they blocked. 

 

Awkward.

 

I used to think NLG was fairly satisfied with being on soaps. I remember one story she told about being at a salon and overhearing a fairly well known actress in primetime who was looking for work and she said something on the phone about how she would have to try soaps soon, and Nancy said she sat there listening feeling fairly smug because she herself was on a soap opera and didn't have to audition every couple of years for a new part. But I suppose she has more than a touch of Tony Geary syndrome.

 

This was a response to another poster from her:

 

I understand. I commented about a very rich A list actress winning a trophy, To receive this vitriol is unwarrented

 

Maybe Kelly Thiebaud can make her a mini primetime emmy?

[TeeVee329]

[Kale Browne voiceover]The role of 'Alexis Davis' will now be played by Kassie de Paiva [/Kale Browne voiceover].

 

"Today, the role of Alexis Davis will be played by Michael Easton"

 

Alexis (in Michael Easton's voice): Take me up against this wall, Julian!

 

And seriously, an ABC Daytime star is shitting on an ABC Primetime star and...nothing?  Say it with me, ABC - Pub.  Li.  Cist.

[Sake614]

Rick Hearst is live tweeting during tomorrow's show at 2 pm ET.

[UYI]

"Today, the role of Alexis Davis will be played by Michael Easton"

 

Alexis (in Michael Easton's voice): Take me up against this wall, Julian!

 

And seriously, an ABC Daytime star is shitting on an ABC Primetime star and...nothing?  Say it with me, ABC - Pub.  Li.  Cist.

 

I guess they could always get Susan Diol, who temped as Alexis in the early 2000s (Jill LOVED using temps when she could, didn't she?).

 

I do find it strange that NLG seems to have always stuck behind JFP, given the latter's misogyny towards her own gender. I know she hired her for Santa Barbara way back when, but still.

 

Someone on another board pointed out that none of her costars have defended her on Twitter, LOL.

Edited September 21, 2015 by UYI

[ch1]

You know Taylor Swift stepped into a racial landmine on Twitter and was smart enough (or her publicists were smart enough) to apologize and that was the end of it.  NLG should take the page out of a girl half her age book.

 

And seriously - if she was drinking.  Before indulging - have someone put all social media devices behind lock and key. 

[UYI]

You know Taylor Swift stepped into a racial landmine on Twitter and was smart enough (or her publicists were smart enough) to apologize and that was the end of it.  NLG should take the page out of a girl half her age book.

 

And seriously - if she was drinking.  Before indulging - have someone put all social media devices behind lock and key. 

 

This. I'm still not completely convinced that TS isn't using feminism as a shield against criticism about her work (and I say this who someone who actually likes a lot of her songs), but you're right.

 

And I say this as a PROUD feminist--a 26 year old, blonde-haired blue-eyed female feminist--but I can see NLG may just now be understanding the idea of intersectional feminism. It's one thing for a younger woman like me to just become aware of it more recently, but I can see legions of women of a certain age who are finally beginning to grasp it, too. It wouldn't surprise me if that's the case with NLG here, too.

 

But this is a HUGE mess she's gotten herself into. And a BAD way to be educated about this subject, too.

[TeeVee329]

In other news, Despair in the Afternoon drags last week's episodes of "Generally Sonny" for filth in a delightful way:

 

https://despairintheafternoon.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/this-week-on-all-sonnys-children/#more-20034

[UYI]

VA and BS both tweeted out congratulations to Viola Davis. Some are wondering if they are intentionally subtweeting/throwing shade at NLG by doing that.

[bantering]

Who is VA and BS? Sorry, I don't regularly post on the GH board, but came here when I saw the articles about Nancy Lee Grahn's tweets about Viola Davis.

[ch1]

In other news, Despair in the Afternoon drags last week's episodes of "Generally Sonny" for filth in a delightful way:

 

 

Wow.  Love really IS never having to say you're sorry. 

 

Sonny does ruin everything.  That cannot be said enough.

[Francie]

VA and BS both tweeted out congratulations to Viola Davis. Some are wondering if they are intentionally subtweeting/throwing shade at NLG by doing that.

Finola congratulated Viola last night, and now she's doubling down this morning:

 

Total best moments IMO from #emmys Obvi @violadavis history making, beautiful speech. #francesmcdormand complete IGNF's & @rickygervais

 

P.S. Can anyone explain to me like I'm Morgan how to embed a tweet?

Edited September 21, 2015 by Francie

[amaranta]

I don't think she comes back from this.  Quite frankly, I'm not so sure that she should.  Her total lack of understanding about what she wrote, the insensitivity, and the ignorance of historical context regarding the Viola Davis win is astounding.  I looked at the tweets and it never stopped being about her, even in apology.  And her attempts at praising Ms. Davis seemed more desperate than genuine. 

 

I say this as someone who likes the character of Alexis.

 

A Google news search just showed 792 articles on Nancy Lee Grahn all within the last 12 hours.  I only read a couple; the levels of second hand embarrassment were making my stomach hurt.

 

And having too much to drink last night, not meaning any harm, etc., just isn't going to cut it in the cold light of day.

Edited September 21, 2015 by amaranta

[UYI]

Who is VA and BS? Sorry, I don't regularly post on the GH board, but came here when I saw the articles about Nancy Lee Grahn's tweets about Viola Davis.

 

Vinessa Antoine (Jordan) and Brytni Sarpy (Valerie). Sorry about that!

Edited September 21, 2015 by UYI

[bantering]

Vinessa Antoine (Jordan) and Brytni Sarpy (Valerie). Sorry about that!

Thanks! 

[jsbt]

Nancy's foolishness is the first result I get on Google when I search "Viola Davis". She has made TheWrap and People. This is very bad for her.

 

Those comments she made after I (finally) went to bed are even worse. Jesus, woman, shut up! Even Patrick Mulcahey, who has known her decades, is saying she fucked up. This is painful to watch, but given her comments, not that painful.

Edited September 21, 2015 by jsbt

[jsbt]

the meaness of these ppl tonight. I feel betrayed by ppl I would've marched for.

 

I understand. I commented about a very rich A list actress winning a trophy, To receive this vitriol is unwarrented

 

I honestly didnt even care that much I was cooking and heard it and went oh lord ur a great actress just accept it and I heard

 

and i heard harriet yTubman and I thought Its a fucking emmy for gods sake. She wasnt digging thru a tunnel

 

OK but to me it seemed over dramatic. It was an acting award. i never expected every black twitterer to attack and have

 

These are awful. At this rate Nancy is going to have to become Dobson again and move to Canada.

[UYI]

This story made the Daily Fail, er, Mail too. So all the Brits who love reading their trashy gossip get to learn about this, too!

 

(Yes, I'll read it sometimes, too. But I'm an American who would deny EVER knowing what DM even is, so...yeah. :P)

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3243318/Soap-star-attacked-Viola-Davis-saying-actress-never-discriminated-against-following-historic-Emmy-win-apologizes-called-white-privilege.html

[fishcakes]

the meaness of these ppl tonight. I feel betrayed by ppl I would've marched for.

 

"I would've marched on Selma if it was in Long Island." -- George Costanza

[BestestAuntEver]

"These people", "THESE PEOPLE"!! "These people she would've marched for". Nobody is asking her ass to do anything.

Nice to know, we're I stand with this $##^!! $$@!## !##*#! $@!#!×!

All I know is TPTB better respond. They let the view shit slide and it backfired. They had several advertisers pause their sponsorship.

[backhometome]

Ugh. Blaming the mean people of twitter is ridiculous. 

[ulkis]

VA and BS both tweeted out congratulations to Viola Davis. Some are wondering if they are intentionally subtweeting/throwing shade at NLG by doing that.

 

Maybe? But they probably would have done that anyway.

 

P.S. Can anyone explain to me like I'm Morgan how to embed a tweet?

 

Maybe you can't after all? I just assumed you could, but maybe not.

[OnceSane]

FFS, Nancy! SHUT. UP. I expect Alexis to be killed off in the next round of All Sonny's Mob.

[UYI]

"These people", "THESE PEOPLE"!! "These people she would've marched for". Nobody is asking her ass to do anything.

Nice to know, we're I stand with this $##^!! $$@!## !##*#! $@!#!×!

All I know is TPTB better respond. They let the view shit slide and it backfired. They had several advertisers pause their sponsorship.

 

Yeah, especially with GH in the state its in right now. I mean, obviously that seems like small potatoes compared to what Nancy was saying last night, but talk about the WORST kind of publicity to get GH in the mainstream media right now, especially with the ratings where they are.

Maybe? But they probably would have done that anyway.

 

 

Maybe you can't after all? I just assumed you could, but maybe not.

 

True, but Nancy's comments could have compelled them to speak out even more.

[ByaNose]

Good thing Shonda Rhimes ain't in charge of GH. She would kill off Alexis in heartbeat for this distraction. She takes no prisoners. LOL!!!!

[ulkis]

Ron is probably soo happy right now someone stepped in it worse than he ever did, but at the same time sad that he can't insert meta commentary into the show about it.

[Artsda]

And it's the cover of People.com. 

 

http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20951278_20954192,00.html?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

 

Nancy's made herself famous and a name for herself. Good job!

[Sake614]

I think they'll just chalk it up to Nancy being Nzncy. If they didn't publicly respond to Bryan, they won't do it with Nancy. They'll handle it internally, she'll get a reprimand and be told to stay off all social media until this cools down.

ETA...or maybe not since its getting so much attention.

Edited September 21, 2015 by Sake614

[jsbt]

No, this is different. This is major media covering her taking shots at Shonda Rhimes and the first black Lead Actress in TV history, both of whom work for the network.

 

If it was up to just Frank, he might be delusional enough at this point to try to capitalize on it and start tweeting shit like "exciting days ahead for Alexis this week on GENERAL HOSPITAL!" like he did with Bryan Craig. But Bryan's nonsense never made it out of soap fandom, and I don't know if even Frank is that bullheaded. Either way, no, this will not end here.

Edited September 21, 2015 by jsbt

[OnceSane]

No, this is different. This is major media covering her taking shots at Shonda Rhimes and the first black Lead Actress in TV history, both of whom work for the network.

 

If it was up to just Frank, he might be delusional enough at this point to try to capitalize on it and start tweeting shit like "exciting days ahead for Alexis this week on GENERAL HOSPITAL!" like he did with Bryan Craig. But Bryan's nonsense never made it out of soap fandom, and I don't know if even Frank is that bullheaded. Either way, no, this will not end here.

And it shouldn't, imo.

[jsbt]

She's made The Hollywood Reporter.

 

Black Twitter's reaction images to her in her trending tag are hilarious.

 

Another thing worth mentioning, albeit only a side issue - I personally feel Frank is slipping. If this was two or three years ago and the show wasn't in such bad shape, I don't think he would come off as desperate to bury the issue with Bryan Craig under happy talk. He did that shit at OLTL too when it was in real bad condition, before Ron became HW. If you asked him, nothing was ever wrong and there were no problems. if this was a couple years ago when GH was doing better, I think he would've done what he usually does - swiftly silenced Bryan and left it at that, instead of trying to work it. My utterly uninformed take is that he's getting desperate and it shows.

Edited September 21, 2015 by jsbt

[Francie]

She's made The Hollywood Reporter.

 

Black Twitter's reaction images to her in her trending tag are hilarious.

 

Another thing worth mentioning, albeit only a side issue - I personally feel Frank is slipping. If this was two or three years ago and the show wasn't in such bad shape, I don't think he would come off as desperate to bury the issue with Bryan Craig under happy talk. He did that shit at OLTL too when it was in real bad condition, before Ron became HW. If you asked him, nothing was ever wrong and there were no problems. if this was a couple years ago when GH was doing better, I think he would've done what he usually does - swiftly silenced Bryan and left it at that, instead of trying to work it. My utterly uninformed take is that he's getting desperate and it shows.

 

Frank is a walking illustration of the joke about two campers out in the woods. Suddenly, a bear comes upon them.  One of the campers bends over to tie his shoes tighter.

 

"You can't outrun a bear!" his friend says.

 

"I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you."

 

Frank has outrun Ron. But he knows he's the only camper left between him and a hungry bear.

[Dandesun]

So. I see drama has happened.

 

My sister griped a bit about the trans-positive speeches mainly because she hates to see politics in entertainment... which I get to a point. But, in regards to Trans-Parent, that is the whole point of the show, and the writer/director/creator has a trans-parent and so this is her life and it's also an extremely important issue that needs recognition.

 

Viola started her speech quoting Harriet Tubman and I give raging mad props for that (Harriet Tubman is on my very short list to be on some American currency -- her importance should not be forgotten and I rather fear it has been) not to mention that at the last GOP debate when asked which woman should be on said American currency most of the candidate mentioned relatives or women who bloody well aren't American and then the rest said Rosa Parks. I greatly admire Rosa Parks as well but I found it distressing that that's as far back as any of them could go. (Oh, wait, one did mention Abigail Adams which I did think was awesome.) And there has been an issue throughout the years regarding feminism and women's rights where it seems to focus solely on white women and not women of color.

 

NLG is speaking from a place of privilege. This is fact. And, unfortunately, she's sounding like a few too many white men who say the same thing about how they have to struggle to put food on the table and find work and all that stuff so they should get some sympathy, too. Viola Davis was the first black woman to win lead actress in a drama series last night (possibly first to win a lead actress Emmy period) and that's appalling to think about in 2015. Why did it take so damned long? Because there haven't been women of color who were good enough? Or because Hollywood is notoriously bad at thinking out of the box?

 

Nancy is coming from pure privilege yet in a business that still looks at a woman her age and has little use for her. What she seems to fail to recognize is that no matter how evolved she believes her opinions and feelings to be... if she were a woman of color it's very likely she wouldn't have had those 20 years in daytime because she wouldn't have fit in to what anyone was putting on soaps at that time.