The Duggars: In the Media and TLC

[DXD526]

As if the tater tot casserole isn't bad enough (you can't be for it and against abortion), Meech's hair is swinging into the slop. *barf*

[satrunrose]

I wouldn't put too much past TLC, but I think the Sister Wives situation is a little different. If you ignore the polygamy angle, a woman got sick of her husband's jerky behaviour and lack of affection and left the marriage. That really is, to quote our girl Jill, something that happens to a lot of families. The added complication of polygamy makes it more interesting, but not really more offensive or scandalous than an ordinary divorce. It's a win-win for TLC, they get the extra eyeballs because something shocking has happened without a large section of the audience writing angry letters to the advertisers. 

For comparison, I think you might have seen something similar if the scandal was Jinger divorcing JereME or one of the 19 coming out as LGBTQ+ and getting disowned, but CSA is going to stay a bridge too far for TLC itself, anyway. 

[all fall down]

The only way I could see something working with TLC is if they focused on Jill and spoke about her getting therapy and learning to set boundaries with her family, and speaking honestly about how the situation with Josh really affected her, not spewing Duggar family talking points.

But I don't know if Jill is capable of (or interested in) that angle. Derick may never agree to be back in league with TCL, although maybe if he had his own contract maybe he would. 

[Zella]

17 minutes ago, christine falls said:

But I don't know if Jill is capable of (or interested in) that angle. Derick may never agree to be back in league with TCL, although maybe if he had his own contract maybe he would. 

After the way Derick acted on social media and ranted and raved about TLC, I don't think any channel would ever want to deal with him, let alone TLC. You can't bite the hand that feeds you and expect them to keep offering you food. So, I don't think this is a matter of Derick having right to veto--they will never make that offer to him, even though at one time he seemed interested in being on another channel. 

Edited March 13, 2022 by Zella

[ms.o]

In last weeks episode of Full Frontal with Samantha Bee, she did a segment on the Duggars and the phrase “family values” nothing earth shattering but I did enjoy seeing her confusion on tater tot casseroles

 

[Boston]

1 minute ago, ms.o said:

In last weeks episode of Full Frontal with Samantha Bee, she did a segment on the Duggars and the phrase “family values” nothing earth shattering but I did enjoy seeing her confusion on tater tot casseroles

 

I hate Smantha Bee.. Just so ya know.. Tater tot casseroles are nothing i've ever heard about until the SMUGGARS.

[Jeeves]

It didn't blow up the media like Whathisname's libel trial, but here's a rundown of some of the coverage of The Sentencing.  I was thinking about this after seeing a reddit post by someone kind of whining "but the story wasn't covered in the media, waah waah waah, snivel snivel." IMO it had more legs than I'd have expected, given that the Duggars are Z-list FORMER cable TV personalities. My random list, based on searches while watching coverage of HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee events this morning:

Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/05/25/josh-duggar-prison-sentence/

The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/us/josh-duggar-sentenced.html

WGN TV (Chicago): https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/conditions-of-josh-duggars-supervised-release-after-prison-are-not-typical-but-appropriate-judge-says/

USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2022/05/25/josh-duggar-sentence-child-pornography-case/9809755002/

Sky News (UK): https://news.sky.com/story/josh-duggar-19-kids-and-counting-reality-tv-star-jailed-over-child-abuse-images-12621641

Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/josh-duggar-sentenced-child-pornography-case

The Christian Post: https://www.christianpost.com/news/josh-duggar-sentenced-to-12-years-in-prison-for-child-porn.html

The story was on the AP wire, based on some bylines I saw on web stories. I'm sure there were many more stories, for instance People magazine covered it. 

[quarks]

And Josh Duggar's mugshot continues to pop up all over Twitter, including from users who in general have no interest in the Duggars.

[Jeeves]

Somebody snapped the Vuolos "out walking" in LA with the kids. The Daily Fail used the photos as a reason to post a long story rehashing the Family Felon's conviction and sentencing: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10887283/Jinger-Duggar-spotted-time-brother-Josh-Duggar-sentenced-12-years-prison.html  Trigger warning: there's at least one somewhat graphic paragraph in the story quoting the sentencing judge about an image he couldn't get out of his head from the CSAM in the case.

The British tabs are unabashedly and chronically vicious. I assume they'll play this game with every Duggar/adjacent for a long time. 

Edited June 6, 2022 by Jeeves
Added TW

[GeeGolly]

4 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

Somebody snapped the Vuolos "out walking" in LA with the kids. The Daily Fail used the photos as a reason to post a long story rehashing the Family Felon's conviction and sentencing: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10887283/Jinger-Duggar-spotted-time-brother-Josh-Duggar-sentenced-12-years-prison.html 

The British tabs are unabashedly and chronically vicious. I assume they'll play this game with every Duggar/adjacent for a long time. 

They included this picture. Knowing what we know now, this is a creepy, creepy picture.

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Somebody snapped the Vuolos "out walking" in LA with the kids. The Daily Fail used the photos as a reason to post a long story rehashing the Family Felon's conviction and sentencing: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10887283/Jinger-Duggar-spotted-time-brother-Josh-Duggar-sentenced-12-years-prison.html  Trigger warning: there's at least one somewhat graphic paragraph in the story quoting the sentencing judge about an image he couldn't get out of his head from the CSAM in the case.

The British tabs are unabashedly and chronically vicious. I assume they'll play this game with every Duggar/adjacent for a long time. 

Is it just me, or does it look like Felicity's sneakers are several sizes too large for her?

[SnapHappy]

18 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Is it just me, or does it look like Felicity's sneakers are several sizes too large for her?

Nope, just loosely tied at the top, around the ankle. Much easier to walk in them.  I have high-tops I wear the same way. 

They all look healthy and well fed.  

Good for them keeping a low profile recently, since the media will insist that they always be tied to the scumbag sex-pig.  

[Zella]

Is calling the paps on yourself keeping a low profile? 

[Nysha]

13 hours ago, Jeeves said:

The British tabs are unabashedly and chronically vicious. I assume they'll play this game with every Duggar/adjacent for a long time. 

This is why JB & Jed! need to give up their dreams of being politicians. Legit media sources probably wouldn't target Jed! but trash media will bring it up and push it hard. As for JB, even mainstream media is going to remind folks that he raised (and defended, lied, harbored) a serial sex offender.

[luvmylabs]

I tried to post this o CD before.  Whatever became of the film and sound team for 19 kids and could ting.  I remember Jim and some of the little kids grew up with those people as almost family members.

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, luvmylabs said:

I tried to post this o CD before.  Whatever became of the film and sound team for 19 kids and could ting.  I remember Jim and some of the little kids grew up with those people as almost family members.

They were employed by the production company and I expect they've moved on to other shows.  I doubt they've kept in touch with JB and M.  Or any of the kids, either.

[madpsych78]

Replying to a point made on the JinJer thread...

I definitely think that Bin, Derick, and Jeremy were attracted to the fame. Especially Jeremy. And, I do think Anna was attracted to being attached to IBLP royalty. 

The post mentioned that Lauren was attracted to the fame too and that was why she married Josiah, but I'm not so sure. Lauren doesn't seem to be a famewhore these days. 

So...which of the in-laws did NOT marry for fame? I'm thinking most of the other ones that married, other than Hilaria Claire. But, with some of them, I'm thinking it was the parents who were seeking fame moreso than the daughters. Paul Caldwell, Dwain Swanson, Hilaria, Korey Nakatsu come to mind in particular. And, the Forsyths were previously on TV. 

The only one who I think genuinely didn't care about the fame was Abbie/the Burnetts.

[Scarlett45]

15 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

The post mentioned that Lauren was attracted to the fame too and that was why she married Josiah, but I'm not so sure. Lauren doesn't seem to be a famewhore these days. 

I agree with most of your post. I think Lauren was attracted to having a nice lifestyle, but when she saw the downsides of a public life she wasn’t interested in that. The money was nice but the scrutiny was too much so she got off public social media. I don’t blame her. 

[Nysha]

On 7/30/2022 at 4:10 PM, madpsych78 said:

The only one who I think genuinely didn't care about the fame was Abbie/the Burnetts.

I agree. The only time Abby seems to want to grab attention is when she's with the other MedicCrap wives and that seems more to promote MedicCrap instead of the Duggar brand.

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, Nysha said:

The only time Abby seems to want to grab attention is when she's with the other MedicCrap wives and that seems more to promote MedicCrap instead of the Duggar brand.

Abby doesn’t post those pictures, other people do.

[sagittarius sue]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Abby doesn’t post those pictures, other people do.

Abby seems to be having a genuinely good time in those photos.

[beckie]

I wonder if Abbie has had the baby yet?

[awaken]

1 minute ago, beckie said:

I wonder if Abbie has had the baby yet?

Yes, she seems to of been pregnant for quite a while now!

[Salacious Kitty]

I thought she was due late summer? She may have a month to go.

[beckie]

17 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I thought she was due late summer? She may have a month to go.

Couldn't remember if she said late summer or later this summer. Either way, it does seem like she's been pregnant forever.

[Jeeves]

6 hours ago, Shakyamuni said:

Hi,

I'm from Germany and loved to watch the Brown-family-drama.

I could watch it via a Streaming Service (joyn) that includes TLC.

Unfortunatley I cannot watch the Duggars that way.

Any ideas how to watch from Europe?

In which ways y'all watch it?

Thanks a lot from Germany

Lilly

Bringing this over from Small Talk.

I've checked the TLC-go.com site and confirmed that TLC has pulled all Duggar shows from its streaming content. I assume that Josh's conviction last year was the final straw, causing TLC to finally cut its ties with the Duggars. Good riddance to bad rubbish; TLC took its time about dumping the Duggars, but better late than never.

I have no idea how one would watch either 19K&C or Counting On episodes now, and TBH no interest in finding out.

[Nysha]

2 hours ago, Jeeves said:

I have no idea how one would watch either 19K&C or Counting On episodes now, and TBH no interest in finding out.

You can find episodes on YouTube.

[sagittarius sue]

1 hour ago, Nysha said:

You can find episodes on YouTube.

Separate from the show, Jessa, Jill, Joy, and Jinger have their own videos on YouTube.

[Natalie68]

2 hours ago, Nysha said:

You can find episodes on YouTube.

When I have looked the only full episodes are the early specials.  DAMN IT!

[madpsych78]

On 8/24/2022 at 11:49 AM, sagittarius sue said:

Separate from the show, Jessa, Jill, Joy, and Jinger have their own videos on YouTube.

And Jed!

[Salacious Kitty]

Don't Jer and Hannah also have a YT?

[GeeGolly]

9 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Don't Jer and Hannah also have a YT?

Yup.

[SunnyBeBe]

I’m not sure where to post this, but, here goes.  Do you know who the people are in the photo of the family on this link we are not Duggars or married to Duggars. Most of them I know.  Some appear to be camera people.  Below photo says Christmas 2018.
 

 https://www.duggarfamily.com/2018/12/christmas-2018/

[jcbrown]

3 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I’m not sure where to post this, but, here goes.  Do you know who the people are in the photo of the family on this link we are not Duggars or married to Duggars. Most of them I know.  Some appear to be camera people.  Below photo says Christmas 2018.
 

 https://www.duggarfamily.com/2018/12/christmas-2018/

In the center I see Mr Jim, the sound guy (I think?) from TLC who got pretty close to the kids. I also see a guy with a camera on the left, so I'm guessing it's the TLC crew?

[SunnyBeBe]

6 minutes ago, jcbrown said:

In the center I see Mr Jim, the sound guy (I think?) from TLC who got pretty close to the kids. I also see a guy with a camera on the left, so I'm guessing it's the TLC crew?

Yes, I recognized him.  Just wondering if all the unfamiliar faces are TLC crew.  

[BetyBee]

I just started listening to a new to me podcast called Digging Up the Duggars. They had me with the hilarious intro. Some of you might like to give it a try!

[awaken]

7 hours ago, BetyBee said:

I just started listening to a new to me podcast called Digging Up the Duggars. They had me with the hilarious intro. Some of you might like to give it a try!

Thanks, I will!  Any new info, or nothing we followers here won’t have heard?

[BetyBee]

10 hours ago, awaken said:

Thanks, I will!  Any new info, or nothing we followers here won’t have heard?

I've only listened to one so far. They're a funny couple with pet names for different Duggars. The wife has read their books and researched and made a timeline that includes what was Josh was up to irl as opposed to what is shown on the show. The husband is watching the shows for the first time. It's so funny as she clues him in. The intro contains "Mother is bleeding" and Ben "rapping". 😂

[BetyBee]

I'm still listening to and enjoying Digging Up the Duggars podcast. But now I've also found a YouTube channel Gabs With Abigail. She does episodes about keeping up with D-list fundies (like Jill Rodrigues' book aimed at teens/young girls where Jill says horrible things about her mil and David's upbringing) and points out hypocrisy and illogical thinking in a humorous way. 

[leighdear]

So there's still no REAL, factual information, nobody legitimately involved is talking and AMAZON doesn't have any updated documentation or comments. 

To me, it sounds like the project was either scrapped totally or back-burnered, no matter how fervently people want to believe it's coming out soon. 

Right now, EVERYTHING IN THE ARTICLE IS SPECULATION. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/an-amazon-documentary-might-shed-light-on-the-duggar-family-s-secrets/ar-AA16zidX?

Edited January 21, 2023 by leighdear
Edited because I accidentally typed Netflix instead of Amazon

[Albanyguy]

1 hour ago, leighdear said:

So there's still no REAL, factual information, nobody legitimately involved is talking and Netflix doesn't have any updated documentation or comments. 

To me, it sounds like the project was either scrapped totally or back-burnered, no matter how fervently people want to believe it's coming out soon. 

Right now, EVERYTHING IN THE ARTICLE IS SPECULATION. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/an-amazon-documentary-might-shed-light-on-the-duggar-family-s-secrets/ar-AA16zidX?

Damn. I was really looking forward to seeing it. Hope it still happens someday.

[Bookish Jen]

One fundie blogger is angry that Jinger threw Jim Bob and Michelle "under the bus."

https://thetransformedwife.com/jinger-duggar-threw-her-parents-under-the-bus/

[Absolom]

7 minutes ago, Bookish Jen said:

One fundie blogger is angry that Jinger threw Jim Bob and Michelle "under the bus."

I read things like that and go maybe they put themselves in the path of the bus or threw themselves under the bus.  Michelle and Jim Bob did seem to go out of their way setting themselves up for a fall.

[Meow Mix]

Consider that the source is Lori Alexander.  I love how she just glosses over what the felon was up to while Jinger was growing up in this supposedly perfect home.

[Salacious Kitty]

27 minutes ago, Bookish Jen said:

One fundie blogger is angry that Jinger threw Jim Bob and Michelle "under the bus."

https://thetransformedwife.com/jinger-duggar-threw-her-parents-under-the-bus/

She also posted this on FB with locked comments. Doesn't have the courage to face the backlash after she got it in her (now deleted) initial post on the subject.

[wilsie]

1 hour ago, Bookish Jen said:

One fundie blogger is angry that Jinger threw Jim Bob and Michelle "under the bus."

https://thetransformedwife.com/jinger-duggar-threw-her-parents-under-the-bus/

What has she even read that Jinger wrote? From her article: "Jinger said with the help of her brother-in-law, who I assume is Derrick, Jill’s husband, she was able to see clearly many things that were wrong about her childhood." How could she have missed it was Ben? We all know it was Ben and we're not trying to make a fundie point.  

[Albanyguy]

3 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

 

 

3 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

Consider that the source is Lori Alexander.  I love how she just glosses over what the felon was up to while Jinger was growing up in this supposedly perfect home.

She's nuttier and more self-righteous that Michelle Duggar and Jill Rodrigues combined - with a side order of Zsuzsanna Anderson.

Edited January 21, 2023 by Albanyguy

[madpsych78]

2 hours ago, wilsie said:

What has she even read that Jinger wrote? From her article: "Jinger said with the help of her brother-in-law, who I assume is Derrick, Jill’s husband, she was able to see clearly many things that were wrong about her childhood." How could she have missed it was Ben? We all know it was Ben and we're not trying to make a fundie point.  

I am DYING that Lori thought it was Derick. Of course she did. I mean I get it because Jill's the one who has more vocally stepped away compared to Jessa, but Jeremy was soooo much closer to Ben than to Derick. 

[Salacious Kitty]

13 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

I am DYING that Lori thought it was Derick. Of course she did. I mean I get it because Jill's the one who has more vocally stepped away compared to Jessa, but Jeremy was soooo much closer to Ben than to Derick. 

It just shows that Lori has no business writing anything about these people. 

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, wilsie said:

What has she even read that Jinger wrote? From her article: "Jinger said with the help of her brother-in-law, who I assume is Derrick, Jill’s husband, she was able to see clearly many things that were wrong about her childhood." How could she have missed it was Ben? We all know it was Ben and we're not trying to make a fundie point.  

She says the reason is this ⬇️, which we all know is not true.

Her sister, Jill, and her cousin, Amy, are the only ones who praised her on her Instagram. Both of these women also came out against the ways Jim Bob and Michelle raised their children.

Jill has repeatedly said she believes in the way she was raised and is raising her boys in much the same way.