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I only turn the show on the rare occasion now, but still read the comments here to keep up on things.  After seeing that BW was on yesterday, I found a clip on the ABC website and watched. It wasn't the whole segment, so it didn't have her disintegrate/deteriorate word mix-up, but she seemed pretty clear of mind to me.  As for the word mix-up, I'm decades younger than she is and occasionally spit out the wrong word.  It happens.   

 

Anyway, I thought Barbara looked and sounded good for someone who will be 87 in September.  We can all only hope we both live that long and keep our health and mind that long.   As for her still having interest in work, I think it comes from growing up during the depression.  People I've known who lived through the depression never forgot it and always feared it could happen again and were frequently workaholics.

 

Also just watched as much of the video of EH that I could stand.  She really is a mean spirited woman.   I nearly didn't make it to her speech though, as I almost shut it down when the "Valley Girl" started talking.  

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I have seen some dumb shit in my day (most of it has been on this show), but this Raven hair color thing has to be the most uninteresting waste of time I have ever seen. I cannot imagine anyone caring about what color her hair is. I mean if they put a slot on the wheel that said "shave head" or "have Raven's head not on the show anymore", I might be able to work up some interest.

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I don't give a fat rat's ass what color Raven's hair is. No really. I know that is hard to believe.

 

Jed needs to go. Holy crap the hosts are getting worse and worse.

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Fox lady toned it down a bit today.  I think the point that words matter was important, I thought Sanders came off as clueless and tone deaf Sunday night.  I do get tired of people insinuating that he's (Sanders) not a politician, he's been in public office for the most part since 1981.

 

You know what I appreciate in the political talk?  They are actually using the term dog-whistle.  I remember when Palin (and her rally crowds) were scaring many of us about the safety of Obama before the election in 2008, dog-whistle used to be a term only used by liberals in blog comment threads and liberals in general but rarely in the media.  It's just a shame that those that "hear" the dog whistle, don't undesrtand that they are racist and being manipulated.

 

Love Nathan Lane, I think we need an hour of just he and Joy.  

 

Enjoying Whoopi's week off.

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Jedidiah, no!  Just go away, stay away AND TAKE Raven's stupid hair with you.

 

Are we in for a week of her and Sunny?

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Jedidiah, no!  Just go away, stay away AND TAKE Raven's stupid hair with you.

 

Are we in for a week of her and Sunny?

 

So much word!

 

PREACH!

Jedidiah, no!  Just go away, stay away AND TAKE Raven's stupid hair with you.

 

Are we in for a week of her and Sunny?

 

So much word!

 

PREACH!

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There is so much confusion on the show when Michelle and Raven are both on at the same time.  Michelle interrupts and no matter her comment, she has that annoying giggle.  And Raven's giggle is just as annoying.  I hope both are gone for the next season.  I can tolerate Whoopie, CCB,and  Paula betterthan those 2 and that is saying a lot.

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I'm ready for Sara to come back if it means we'll finally be rid of Jedidiah.

 

Those poor contributors really aren't going to appear on this show ever again. Too bad; I like Padma better than Sara or this woman who I don't want to know.

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I got the impression Raven still thinks OJ is innocent. Her comment that of course a knife was found on his property, how else was he supposed to cut his steak? Was so profoundly stupid it almost gave me a migraine.

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http://news.marriott.com/2016/03/the-facts-about-marriott-international-and-erin-andrews-trial.html

 

It's not Marriott it is the company that owns the hotel.  They purchase the brand from Marriott.  EA will only get a fraction of the money, potentially 5 or 6 million. Joy's ignorant joke about how she can move to Europe, and then suggested Sweden because everyone there is naked, was stupid and inappropriate.

 

Stalker did not ask the hotel to put him in the room next to EA.  He called through the hotel operator from a house phone in the lobby.  In trying to connect stalker to EA, her room was displayed on the house phone.  When he tried to check in there were no rooms available.  Later he went to look at EA's room and saw that there was a room just being cleaned next to her room.  And he went to the front desk and asked if he could have that room.

 

He did not put a camera in the peephole.  He removed the peephole and hacksawed it and replaced the altered peephole.  When he heard her shower stop running, he used his cell phone to video her naked in her room.

 

They got so many facts wrong on this one case alone.  It's embarrassing.

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We always cut our steak and bury the knife . Don't you guys? :-) Oh , Raven. DO go away. Actually I only enjoy Joy. If there has to be a second person among these choices, Sunny is the least cringe-y and stabby-worthy for me.

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http://news.marriott.com/2016/03/the-facts-about-marriott-international-and-erin-andrews-trial.html

 

It's not Marriott it is the company that owns the hotel.  They purchase the brand from Marriott.  EA will only get a fraction of the money, potentially 5 or 6 million. Joy's ignorant joke about how she can move to Europe, and then suggested Sweden because everyone there is naked, was stupid and inappropriate.

 

Stalker did not ask the hotel to put him in the room next to EA.  He called through the hotel operator from a house phone in the lobby.  In trying to connect stalker to EA, her room was displayed on the house phone.  When he tried to check in there were no rooms available.  Later he went to look at EA's room and saw that there was a room just being cleaned next to her room.  And he went to the front desk and asked if he could have that room.

 

He did not put a camera in the peephole.  He removed the peephole and hacksawed it and replaced the altered peephole.  When he heard her shower stop running, he used his cell phone to video her naked in her room.

 

They got so many facts wrong on this one case alone.  It's embarrassing.

How was her name and room number shown on the house phone? That seems odd and dangerous.

Also, why don't the peepholes have that little swing hatch thing that covers the hole unless you move it aside to look out?

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I'm actually a little surprised and troubled that Marriott isn't on the hook at all "because it was a franchise" but I guess that's how their agreements are written.  Most people wouldn't know they were in a franchise or not without going out of their way to inquire.  They must have posted that up the second the decision was announced yesterday, lol.  Why not long ago is curious.

 

I'm also curious why you think she'll get so little.  I suppose I should just go read more about it.

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"Joy's ignorant joke about how she can move to Europe, and then suggested Sweden because everyone there is naked, was stupid and inappropriate."

Joy also said something at the end of the Erin Andrews story, something like, "I will be having a massage at (insert hotel name here) next week" Wtf? This sounds a lot like the tasteless tweet from Jenny McCarthy about the Andrews case:

Jenny McCarthy ‏@JennyMcCarthy  · 21h21 hours ago 

Dear Peeping Tom, I'll be staying at the Marriot in St Louis next week.

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  Both of these comments imply that they would be happy to have what happened to Erin Andrews happen to them so they could get a payout. Fuck both of these assholes.

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Jenny McCarthy doesn't need to alert any peeping toms. We've all seen what she has already

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Oh, and I have to add, Paula is an idiot with her "the Secret Service has to blah blah blah" about protesters at tRump's rallies.  The one that threw down the ABC? I think photographer is in deep water.

TIME photographer and yes, I hope the 'investigation' doesn't get lost in the shuffle, although it already has in the news cycle.  

 

 

Nancy Reagan died yesterday morning & BaWa was on the ABC Nightly News at 6:30 E.T.  She must've done some pretty fancy moving to get her hair & make-up done & round up someone to help her dress & escort her to the venue.

Exactly.  Wild horses would not have kept Babs away from a camera - I'm curious if she called ABC or they called her?  Heh.  Being old isn't an excuse - this is the same Babs as always.  Her imitation of "The Gaze" Nancy was always giving her husband was maybe more cringe worthy at 87 than at 67 but not much more. 

 

Who the bloody hell is this Jedidiah person?!! Nice name by the way. Is she a long-lost member of the Beverly Hillbillies? She was incredibly annoying. "Twenty year olds don't need health care." Oh really?!! Then I guess if you're in your 20s, then you are immune to AIDS, cancer, heart disease, etc. What an utterly stupid thing to say and on this show? That's saying something!!

 

Where TF do they get these people? Under a rock?

[bolded mine]   Bwahahaha!  I am glad I wasn't drinking hot coffee when I read this. 

 

I feel like I read a profile piece on her before - like maybe People magazine at the doctor's office?   Anyway, I think those kind of ignorant comments are an act trying to make a mark or a spark or whatever.  Lame.      On the upside, I'm really not hating Sunny anymore, lol.  

 

 

I got the impression Raven still thinks OJ is innocent. Her comment that of course a knife was found on his property, how else was he supposed to cut his steak? Was so profoundly stupid it almost gave me a migraine.

That was really ignorant.    Because while lots of people still think Simpson was not guilty (didn't Nathan Lane say F.Lee Bailey still thinks so as well?)  but Raven's comment showed she didn't even bother to read anything about this "new knife" topic because she would have learned that it was found when Simpson's house was demolished 18 years ago.  She didn't seem to understand that he hasn't lived there for 20 years or that he's been in prison for the last five or so years.  

 

http://news.marriott.com/2016/03/the-facts-about-marriott-international-and-erin-andrews-trial.html

 

It's not Marriott it is the company that owns the hotel.  They purchase the brand from Marriott.  EA will only get a fraction of the money, potentially 5 or 6 million. Joy's ignorant joke about how she can move to Europe, and then suggested Sweden because everyone there is naked, was stupid and inappropriate.

 

Stalker did not ask the hotel to put him in the room next to EA.  He called through the hotel operator from a house phone in the lobby.  In trying to connect stalker to EA, her room was displayed on the house phone.  When he tried to check in there were no rooms available.  Later he went to look at EA's room and saw that there was a room just being cleaned next to her room.  And he went to the front desk and asked if he could have that room.

 

He did not put a camera in the peephole.  He removed the peephole and hacksawed it and replaced the altered peephole.  When he heard her shower stop running, he used his cell phone to video her naked in her room.

 

They got so many facts wrong on this one case alone.  It's embarrassing.

Standard procedure on The Spew.  Thanks bannana for the posting the facts. 

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I'm actually a little surprised and troubled that Marriott isn't on the hook at all "because it was a franchise" but I guess that's how their agreements are written.  Most people wouldn't know they were in a franchise or not without going out of their way to inquire.  They must have posted that up the second the decision was announced yesterday, lol.  Why not long ago is curious.

 

I'm also curious why you think she'll get so little.  I suppose I should just go read more about it.

She'll get nothing from the stalker.  And the assumption is that the hotel company will appeal and that then there will be a settlement that is reduced, so maybe $20 million.  Then lawyers take 40% according to what I have read.  And because it was not a physical injury, but rather emotional/mental distress, she gets taxed on the remainder.  I just think it is too bad that they think this is a windfall for EA. 

 

How was her name and room number shown on the house phone? That seems odd and dangerous.

Also, why don't the peepholes have that little swing hatch thing that covers the hole unless you move it aside to look out?

I think the room number came up as the extension the person is dialling (not the name).  I have never seen that, it seems crazy they would have that on a lobby house phone, so that when you call for a guest, you now know their room number.  I know from experience that most times, in a good hotel, if you even dial room to room and you go through the operator, you have to have the guest name and the room number, so I guess that is for added security.  Generally my colleagues and I text cause it is easier and faster, but sometimes you don't know the person's cell phone number so you want to dial them in their room, but you probably don't know the room number.  The person checking her in should have been a bit suspicious that a hotel guest who was not checked in was on a guest room floor checking out which rooms were being cleaned and would be available, for whatever reason.

 

Yes, peepholes should be more secure.  There are a  lot of security risks when you stay in a hotel, especially for women travelling alone.  Hotels often have staff who are not trained thoroughly and they make big mistakes.  This time it cost them.

 

I just cannot understand why instead putting incorrect info out there they couldn't have spent twenty minutes finding out the facts.  Same with the OJ knife.  Sheesh.

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Raven's hair color - so what, who cares? Terrible idea. I liked the turban headgear thing she wore prior to the big reveal better.

 

I had forgotten about that. I loved the turban. I wish I could get away with wearing that on bad hair days. Okay-most days. It looked lovely on her, too. The ridiculous hair? Not so much.  I don't really understand why the color doesn't go all the way down to the roots. It looks even stranger like that. Raven is a pretty woman and she can pull off the outrageous styles, I guess. I just don't care enough about it to watch it play out.

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I hate how this show gangs up on the Kardasians every week.  Now I don't watch that show, but I do love Housewives so I'm not a snob, but people are fascinated by them and they are basically sitcom stars since their shows are so scripted.  Just get over it, they will eventually go away and the culture will move on.  But what really bothers me is The View is a show where former child stars talk politics, who are they to talk or judge anyone for making the most out of having no talent?  Give me a break that Kim owes it to us to be a role model.  She can do what she wants.    Haven't we learned yet that role models need to  start in the community and family and not celebs?

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Joy and her tired worn out 1970's borscht belt cliche' comedic schtick - re: Sweden and nudity. What if a stalker had filmed Joy's daughter in that hotel. I am very dissapointed in her. And Jenny McCarthy, when you appeared nude in public, you CHOSE the time and place, and had CONTROL. Plus you got paid for it. 

 

Consider this:

 All The Bulls**t Erin Andrews Has Had To Deal With

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/erin-andrews-trial_us_56d6eefce4b03260bf78a8e6

 

1. She had her privacy invaded as the apparent negligence of the hotel staff enabled a stalker to secure a room adjacent to her and watch her at her most vulnerable.

"This could’ve been stopped," she said in court Tuesday, per The New York Times. "The Nashville Marriott could’ve just called me and said, 'We’re putting this man that requested to be next to you, is this OK?' And I would’ve called the cops and we would’ve gotten him. I’m so angry. I’m so mad."

 

2. She was then exposed against her will another 17 million times after the video was posted online, according to a computer expert who testified in court last week.

 

3. After viewing the recording for the first time, she became physically sick and began to vomit.

She described a month-long "glazed over" state in the aftermath that left her emotionally scarred.

 

4. Nude images of herself -- with black bars selectively placed -- smattered the front pages of big-time newspapers.

 

5. She had to explain to her parents that their daughter had been stalked and compromised, and watch them deal with the pain as well.

“I called my parents," she explained this week. "I was just screaming that I was naked all over the Internet and I didn’t know what it was."

 

6. She says she was told by ESPN that if she wanted to get back onto the air, she'd have to relive and relay the trauma in a sit-down TV interview.

Andrews discussed that near ultimatum on Monday in a gut-wrenching part of her testimony.

 

7. Why? Because people believed that this was all a "publicity stunt" that she did for attention or for endorsements.

Thereby blaming the victim and shaming the woman, for the unsolicited, unwanted, abusive acts of another.

“Probably for, like, three months, everybody thought it was a publicity stunt," she said Monday, per Deadspin. "The front page of the New York Post said ‘ESPN Scandal.’ To Fox News and CBS, everybody put up that I was doing it for publicity and attention, and that ripped me apart.”

 

8. During trial, she could do nothing to help as her mother began to cry when Andrews was questioned about that night in Nashville.

According to The Tennessean, "[Andrew's] attorney asked her to talk about what happened on Sept. 4, 2008. Andrews' composure broke. Her father and mother, Steve and Paula Andrews, sat in the front row. Paula Andrews sobbed into her husband's shoulder."

 

9. It was suggested on Tuesday that she has the whole traumatic experience -- and the peeping Tom himself -- to thank for her ensuing success.

 

10. Even now, all these years later, she deals with social media harassment whenever she turns on her computer.

“I feel so ashamed,” she said. “This happens every day of my life. Either I get a tweet, or somebody makes a comment in the paper, or somebody sends me a still of the video to my Twitter, or somebody screams it at me in the stands. And I’m right back to this.”

 

11. Because of the video, she's "scared to meet new people or go on a date," per The New York Times.

In new settings, interacting with unfamiliar people, she now finds herself hesitating, thinking, "Has he seen the video?"

 

12. To this day, she has to switch rooms whenever she arrives at a hotel, checking for "booby traps" and recording devices, while barring anyone from stepping inside.

She lives with her emotional duress -- the constant, nagging worry and pain -- each and every day.

 

Say it with us now: It's not fair. It's not right. And, oh so crucially, it is not her fault.

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Pretty sure George Bush didn't say "strategery" - it was Will Ferrell playing Bush in an SNL skit.  

Love #Trumplestiltskin, probably not original though.

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I usually don't mind Sunny and except for her shot at Raven I was annoyed with her. Same with Joy. Some of her stuff, whIle I normally like her, annoyed today.

I didn't want to mute Jedidiah... what the heck is going on with this week?

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Raven to Sunny: "My words will have more impact than yours."

Sunny: "I don't think so."

 

Jed needs to shut it.

 

So Paula is naked in front of her 6 yr old son? What if the husband were naked in front of a 6 yr old daughter? Paula would likely freak.

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Paula: “I hope she (Erin Andrews) does something good with that money.” Uh, why? Does she owe the world charity because she was victimized? She didn't win the lottery--she won a settlement.

 

Raven is just so stupid. I feel like I say it at least once a day. She gets all her information from her phone… Another piece of the puzzle.

 

I don’t remember comedians going after Romney or McCain that much? Sarah Palin, on the other hand… All these excuses for Trump. “He’ll change, he’ll change.” Why would anyone think that--and how does that change anything he's said and done already?

 

Love love love Bette Midler’s responses to Kim Kardashian.

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The time to quit being naked in front of your child is when he/she started "checking you out" or seems embarrassed, Paula.  There is nothing wrong with teaching modesty, the lesson about not being ashamed is when your child catches you naked and you don't freak out.

 

Shut up, Raven, and keep your made up words between you and your twitter followers.

 

I hate to admit even my husband made a crack about the money being a comfort to Erin Andrews.  I had to tell him the money was irrelevant, the trial was about validating her feelings of being violated and punishing those who behaved so abhorrently.

 

Is Jedidiah a long lost Duggar?  Ugh, she looks so smug.

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The 55 mill settlement for Erin will be 5 or 6 million by the time everyone gets their cut.. attys... taxes (because it wasn't a physical injury) She wont see a dime from the scum who did this... only the hotel will pay. (imo)

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And then Paula freaked out about seeing Ryan Reynold's penis.  I guess it wasn't part of her nudie time.

 

I think younger people are way less up tight nowadays because everyone sends nudes now.  Even in the locker room I've noticed less modesty.  Shut the door in your own home though.

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And then Paula freaked out about seeing Ryan Reynold's penis.  I guess it wasn't part of her nudie time.

 

 

THIS! ^^^^

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It's so nice not to have Whoopie pontificating this week in every discussion, lording herself as the expert on every single issue.

 

Raven thinks she represents all of the younger generation, even at age 30. She is such an airhead who embarrasses herself every day.

 

I absolutely love Bonnie Raitt.

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Whoever taught Raven on set in "school" should be taken out back. Epic fail. Same for CCB.

Raven, try to match wits with  Sunny, and you're going to lose. (Altho Im not a super Sunny fan per se)

I loathe Kanye West with a passion, but I wonder how he feels about his nude wife all over the internetS. IF I were a dude I wouldn't want my wife nude everywhere. What she did before they met is the past, but what she does now....YIKES. Maybe I am a fart. All his friends and coworkers seeing his wife naked NOW (as opposed to old images) just YIKES. But I loathe him so he probably gets off on it in some way. Or heck maybe it was his idea. HATE both of them. Feel bad for the kids. The boy  named Saint and the daughter named North. Preference much? GACK.

Pepto

 

LOVE BONNIE!

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Love Joy being the mod!

Raven shut up

Jed ( whatever her damn name is) go away

Love Sunny

And Paula you are so gross

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I am so sick of Kim Kardashian I could vomit. I guarantee you thhat if her body looked "less conventionally beautiful" she wouldn't be so effing  eager to tweet herself out neh-kid. Men can be "empowered " in many ways, but women have to be naked to be empowered?  GAG          

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but women have to be naked to be empowered?  GAG

 

 

Of course not, there are many ways:  brains, bravery, artistic expression, altruism, selflessness, devotion, just to name a few.  While KK does possess a fat ass, an ass for a husband, a sex tape and a reality show, she has none of the aforementioned virtues, alas.

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Of course not, there are many ways:  brains, bravery, artistic expression, altruism, selflessness, devotion, just to name a few.  While KK does possess a fat ass, an ass for a husband, a sex tape and a reality show, she has none of the aforementioned virtues, alas.

 

I agree. I was taking a shot at her empowerment assertion. It was an excuse to be naked as usual.

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Paula threw shade at Sunny when Sunny mentioned she was a prosecutor. Paula said "drinking game" and took a gulp from her cup.

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Paula threw shade at Sunny when Sunny mentioned she was a prosecutor. Paula said "drinking game" and took a gulp from her cup.

 

Wow. I missed that. Well, it's not like Paula never mentions being a journalist or whatever she says.

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KK is an overweight narcissist with enhancements galore.  Her ass looks terrible to me and she has a pear shaped body.  She carries her weight below her waist and with those huge fake boobs it makes it look symmetrical.  That bleached hair and over botoxed face, sheesh!

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Raven is just so stupid. I feel like I say it at least once a day. She gets all her information from her phone… Another piece of the puzzle.

Raven is just so stupid. I feel like I say it at least once a day. She gets all her information from her phone… Another piece of the puzzle.

That cracked me up.  I thought, "Of course you do Raven."   But she's not really wrong about the cell phone thing.  At our Thanksgiving the five teenagers from three families sat at their own table; at one point I looked over and all four were face down into their phones.

 

It's so nice not to have Whoopie pontificating this week in every discussion, lording herself as the expert on every single issue.

 

Raven thinks she represents all of the younger generation, even at age 30. She is such an airhead who embarrasses herself every day.

 

I absolutely love Bonnie Raitt.

It's like a completely different show - enjoyable!!   

 

Raven was given the spot of the sole millennial at the table so I can see why she thinks she speaks for that demographic. I think Whoopi suggested her for the gig so I blame Whoopi, surprise surprise.  Speaking of those two -looks like Whoopi might be giving Raven fashion advice now.    Why was she wearing a duck blind?  

 

Paula threw shade at Sunny when Sunny mentioned she was a prosecutor. Paula said "drinking game" and took a gulp from her cup.

Ha!  I missed that but honestly, I am liking having a former prosecutor at the table - especially for topics like this. where that experience is actually relevant.    And I don't hate having someone with an advanced degree sitting next to Raven and/or CCB either.  I don't always agree with Sunny's opinions but I can respect them far more than anything that comes out of Born Again Barbie's mouth.  

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I think they could play a drinking game for every time Paula mentions she's a journalist. Or every time she says, "Democrats do it, too!" Or excuses Trump for anything and everything. Or preaches about being fair and balanced while she's spewing misogyny.

 

It's too bad they feel the need to have two Paula's on this show, alternately Candace and now Jebidiah. Jebidiah is the worst of all three.

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Paula threw shade at Sunny when Sunny mentioned she was a prosecutor. Paula said "drinking game" and took a gulp from her cup.

I think they could play a drinking game for every time Paula mentions she's a journalist.

Did anyone else catch Sunny say, 'You were a sports reporter, right?"  when Paula said she covered the news/was a reporter in Chicago?   Heh.   I cracked up.  

 

This week has been so enjoyable without Her Highness Miss Whoopi,  Queen of the Rag Bag,  Knower of All Things, and Fart Joke Expert.  

 

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KK is an overweight narcissist with enhancements galore.  Her ass looks terrible to me and she has a pear shaped body.  She carries her weight below her waist and with those huge fake boobs it makes it look symmetrical.  That bleached hair and over botoxed face, sheesh!

Maybe I should go to small talk for further rants, but that's how some men think that women are supposed to look. BAH. My breasts are real "and they're spectacular" [/seinfeld] but they don't stand up straight. high, and and pointy . They fall to the side when I lie down. TMI> Sorry for the visual. 

but my bf doesn't complain. :-)

I totally FLOVE Joy as mod. She is 13 yrs older (or depends on who you ask as to WHoops' real age) but she does a far superior job as mod. imo.

 

Sunny can be kind of snarky and I am diggin' it.

 

Jed.. go the eff home or wherever.

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Whoppi can't read so it's sort of a problem when you are asssigned the role of moderator. Hopefully, she'll leave when her contract is up. That said, i doubt she will because she loves the easy $$$$$.Although, i will miss her saying (all.the.time), "we weren't there!"...."we don't know the truth!"....."nobody knows anything because they weren't there!"

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