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MorbidPet

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But Rollins and Amaro were a couple weren't they? Didn't they admit that on screen? (Even apart from that towel scene)

For me they were def cannon but Warren has said on Twitter that they were only Rollaro shippers imagination, despite mentioning them in several articles. He took it back after the bar brawl where he also answered a friend of mine's tweet and tauntingly wrote "you ship them after that?"

They did have Amanda say "not Nick's" a few times when her pregnancy got known so obviously they were a couple but WL haven't said anything about that. He just contradicts himself constantly and I'm f'ed up with it now. I can't believe I actually had such respect for this man when he first got on board.

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wknt3
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Unfortunately sometimes the news is depressing.... RIP Actor and Comedian Richard Belzer, Munch of “SVU” and “Homicide,” Famous for Dry Sense of Humor

Xeliou66
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Damn, RIP Richard Belzer/Munch. He was an absolute legend. Munch was such a great character on both SVU and Homicide, one of tv’s most memorable detectives.  I really hope SVU pays tribute to him be

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John Munch and Richard Belzer gave this show a much-needed sense of levity amidst the sorrow and despair. And it was invaluable, as we now see how dreary the show has been without it. John Munch

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Lebanna

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Eh, that scene with Barba's anger over Benson's new relationship was so clearly played for jealousy and emotion, that I think it's fair enough that Leighton comment on that.

It doesn't really undermine Tuckson or give Barson any hope at all. If Barba wants her, it's clearly unrequited. Then again, we still don't know if Barba has any directly romantic feelings for her or if he was still just hoping to have her all to himself to hang out with in the old folks home, as they discussed that one time. Either way, it's clear that it's not happening.

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Lebanna

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This notion that she had to be unhappy seemed wrong to me.

Warren Leight, talking about Benson in the article above.

I know that he means on a personal level, but after all the Benson torture porn of the last few years, this made me snort.

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Everleigh

Everleigh

12 hours ago, Lebanna said:

Warren Leight, talking about Benson in the article above.

I know that he means on a personal level, but after all the Benson torture porn of the last few years, this made me snort.

He may have had her repeatedly kidnapped/taken hostage/assaulted... but at least he gave her a couple of boyfriends! 

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shapeshifter

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From Deadline.com: "Donald Trump-ish ‘Law & Order: SVU’ Episode Tiptoes Around Election Cycle" http://deadline.com/2016/10/donald-trump-law-order-svu-episode-date-change-election-1201835008/

Scheduled to air October 26 

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...Anyway, getting back to SVU, in the episode, the totally-not-Trump-but-they-can’t-stop-you-from-making-comparisons character, played by Gary Cole, is a big galoot but loaded with the stuff. He’s contemplating a change of address to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W. for eight years, only some women with sordid stories are trying to thwart him from moving on up....

Since it's already in the can, it seems like they must've known something about his history with women before the tape went viral.

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wknt3

wknt3

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1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

From Deadline.com: "Donald Trump-ish ‘Law & Order: SVU’ Episode Tiptoes Around Election Cycle" http://deadline.com/2016/10/donald-trump-law-order-svu-episode-date-change-election-1201835008/

Scheduled to air October 26
 

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...Anyway, getting back to SVU, in the episode, the totally-not-Trump-but-they-can’t-stop-you-from-making-comparisons character, played by Gary Cole, is a big galoot but loaded with the stuff. He’s contemplating a change of address to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W. for eight years, only some women with sordid stories are trying to thwart him from moving on up....

 

If they are going to go this way I wish they would embrace the history of the franchise and bring back Richard Peterson from the Mothership's "Survivor". Why not? Maybe a couple lines about how he slithered away from McCoy on appeal, the way his airline and football team tanked, etc. but he kept going and got a cheesy reality show after Arthur Branch turned it down etc. Tell me that it wouldn't be worth it, no matter what kind of lecture we get from Benson about how the privileged get away with it and whining about how her bosses and the courts want "evidence" and "probable cause", to see Fin telling us that he is polling at -7% among African Americans because a brother can always see a hustler coming and Barba snarking about his stunt posting a picture of himself eating a burrito on FacePlace? Just do it! If they went this way and gave us a Munch guest spot too I would watch it twice AND buy the episode!

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fastiller

fastiller

2 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Since it's already in the can, it seems like they must've known something about his history with women before the tape went viral.

I think it's not an unreasonable extrapolation from DJT's public comments about women to the thinking that he'd actually assault someone.  Also - it's possible that this is some sort of mash-up of DJT and Bill Clinton, in the writers' eyes anyway.

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Princess Lucky

Princess Lucky

I'm already extremely iffy about this season and its somewhat conflicting and borderline offensive messages, but if they botch the Trump episode, days before the election, well. And it's an NBC show, too. You know everyone will be watching closely. They better get this one right, or else.

No wonder they kept rescheduling this, though. Which is suspicious in itself.

Oh and speaking of the Mothership, I loved the S18/19 Tom Everett Scott mash-up of Blagojevich and... who else was it? There was a sexual element to that scandal, wasn't there? It's been forever since I watched those episodes. I have very little hope SVU will match them.

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wknt3

wknt3

48 minutes ago, Princess Lucky said:

Oh and speaking of the Mothership, I loved the S18/19 Tom Everett Scott mash-up of Blagojevich and... who else was it? There was a sexual element to that scandal, wasn't there? It's been forever since I watched those episodes. I have very little hope SVU will match them.

I wish I could forget the other major inspiration for Shalvoy, but as a New York resident I all too clearly remember that it was Eliot Spitzer who provided the other headlines that character was ripped from. Didn't SVU do one of the Anthony Weiner scandals during the Amaro years?

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Princess Lucky

Princess Lucky

2 hours ago, wknt3 said:

I wish I could forget the other major inspiration for Shalvoy, but as a New York resident I all too clearly remember that it was Eliot Spitzer who provided the other headlines that character was ripped from. Didn't SVU do one of the Anthony Weiner scandals during the Amaro years?

Yes! Spitzer! Of course! Thank you @wknt3. I knew there was something shady but not just in the political sense.

And they sure did! It was a super-rare Barba-centric episode in Season 15 (October Surprise, I believe).  One of Barba's old friends who was running for New York mayor was caught sexting teenagers, among other things (which was actually prescient, as we didn't find out the real Weiner did that until very recently). They even did a "Carlos Danger" joke, what was it? OK I have to use google for that.

It was 'Enrique Trouble.'

I'm sure the Trump episode won't even beat that.

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Princess Sparkle

Princess Sparkle

2 hours ago, wknt3 said:

I wish I could forget the other major inspiration for Shalvoy, but as a New York resident I all too clearly remember that it was Eliot Spitzer who provided the other headlines that character was ripped from. Didn't SVU do one of the Anthony Weiner scandals during the Amaro years?

Yep, it was October Surprise. I remember being baffled because Kirk Acevedo was in the episode as a side character, when he was a detective on Trial By Jury, and was part of a crossover with SVU while the show was on the air.  I know some people come back as different characters, but to me, it would be as if Linus Roache showed up playing someone other than Mike Cutter  

I'm a little bummed Gary Cole is going to be playing the skeezebag - I know he plays a good scumbag, but I liked him so much in his previous episode of SVU that I don't want my image of him to be ruined. 

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Monkeybball

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On 10/12/2016 at 1:34 PM, Princess Lucky said:

Yes! Spitzer! Of course! Thank you @wknt3. I knew there was something shady but not just in the political sense.

And they sure did! It was a super-rare Barba-centric episode in Season 15 (October Surprise, I believe).  One of Barba's old friends who was running for New York mayor was caught sexting teenagers, among other things (which was actually prescient, as we didn't find out the real Weiner did that until very recently). They even did a "Carlos Danger" joke, what was it? OK I have to use google for that.

It was 'Enrique Trouble.'

I'm sure the Trump episode won't even beat that.

The episode where Fin goes "WHOA-HO! That's the Full Munoz right there!" Aka my favorite line EVER.  Cracks me up every time.

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Princess Lucky

Princess Lucky

Wow! So, either Trump threatened them, or the script they wrote a while ago turned out to be too close to reality (as it was subsequently revealed), or maybe (according to Variety) the episode makes Trump look sympathetic and NBC didn't want to appear too Trump-friendly for the nth time.

Any one of those options is shady, if you ask me.

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Lebanna

Lebanna

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Isn't this just like when there's an attack or a bomb or something and they don't show episodes which are too similar because it's inappropriate? I mean, there's ripped from the headlines and actually making the headlines. I could see why it would be somewhat lacking in taste to put on an episode about a presidential candidate who sexually assaulted people when this is actually what is currently happening with real people right now. Whatever happens in the show could alter the way people hear and understand the accounts of the real women who are accusing Trump. 

These are their stories. As it were. I'm sure Benson would be all for respecting the victims and not muddying the waters.

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wknt3

wknt3

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If anyone finds a good story on the NBC decision making process with this episode please post it here. Everything I have seen is pretty vague. I am curious why they would approve a plot that was obviously going to be controversial, and then back off. They had to know this story was going to break and be a major scandal or it was not going to and they would be accused of basing a story on unsubstantiated gossip in the middle of the election. And if you were afraid of being seen as advancing an agenda that ship sailed a long time ago. Either go for it or don't but I don't see what you gain doing it this way other than perhaps making some people realize that the show is still on the air.

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Gigi43

Gigi43

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I was slightly surprised NBC went ahead with the SVU season opener with the terrorists since days prior actual bombs were found in NY/NJ, and unlike that, this Trump thing was planned (I'm not sure if it matters it was made before those tapes/allegations, a lot of objectifying material was there already so that jump from the show that made Paula Dean a murder isn't too far, but then again I do tend to believe NBC probably sat on stuff as long as they were making money off The Apprentice, so who knows if stories had been going around and this could be breaking that wall a bit?) SVU can be very hit or miss with these ripped from the headlines episodes, I thought the Chris Brown and Paula Dean ones weren't good and over the top, but the Anthony Wiener (hell, the guys given them enough material for sequels) and, surprisingly, Duggar ones were decent. I do hope the episode will eventually air. The idea that it may make Trump sympathetic and that's why they're not airing it may be the dumbest reason not too, I don't have much faith in people but I don't see one episode of SVU having the power to sway votes especially since its not getting the viewers it use to (granted all TV ratings are lower and lower, but still.) At least SVU is getting some publicity?

 

Does anyone know what episode will air in its place?

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Princess Lucky

Princess Lucky

13 hours ago, Gigi43 said:

The idea that it may make Trump sympathetic and that's why they're not airing it may be the dumbest reason not too, I don't have much faith in people but I don't see one episode of SVU having the power to sway votes especially since its not getting the viewers it use to (granted all TV ratings are lower and lower, but still.) At least SVU is getting some publicity?

 

Does anyone know what episode will air in its place?

I think the problem with a sympathetic portrayal of Trump isn't the fact it might influence voters, it's the fact NBC is/has been in business with Trump and they've been soft on him repeatedly (hosting SNL, the softball Fallon interview, sitting on the Billy Bush tape etc). I truly hope SVU wasn't used like that for financial (if not political) reasons.

And they're airing the Anthony Edwards episode instead. The only good thing to come out of this, if I'm honest.

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WendyCR72

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Yeah, I just saw that at TV Line. NBC is killing me with trying to post damned episode threads! Canceling, reshuffling, bah! (Off to delete this one now! Since I believe "Unstoppable" [a.k.a. the one alluding to Trump] is supposed to air next week. But I'll wait and see before putting up the thread!)

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wknt3

wknt3

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Yeah, I just saw that at TV Line. NBC is killing me with trying to post damned episode threads! Canceling, reshuffling, bah! (Off to delete this one now! Since I believe "Unstoppable" [a.k.a. the one alluding to Trump] is supposed to air next week. But I'll wait and see before putting up the thread!)

Waiting is probably a good idea since I imagine that the final decision on whether to air that episode depends on what happens Tuesday...

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CelticBlackCat

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What is the unthinkable?  That the American voters are going to elect a new President of the United States?

2 hours ago, Reghan said:

It's because of the baseball game.

The World Series on another channel (Fox) is going extra innings with a rain delay.

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Sarah D. Bunting

Sarah D. Bunting

Not that your cheerless correspondent's DVR figured it out, but according to IMDb, 11/9 will be "Bad Rap," which has nothing to do with anything Trumpy AFAIK. But there's another ep about a hockey player ALSO listed for that date, with "Totes Not Trump No Way Don't Sue Us" set for 11/16.

Sorry we won't all be kvetching about an ep this week together! Maybe USA or ION will do us a solid and re-air the Vixy Platinum ep I so love to hate.

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Princess Lucky

Princess Lucky

33 minutes ago, Sarah D. Bunting said:

Not that your cheerless correspondent's DVR figured it out, but according to IMDb, 11/9 will be "Bad Rap," which has nothing to do with anything Trumpy AFAIK. But there's another ep about a hockey player ALSO listed for that date, with "Totes Not Trump No Way Don't Sue Us" set for 11/16.

Sorry we won't all be kvetching about an ep this week together! Maybe USA or ION will do us a solid and re-air the Vixy Platinum ep I so love to hate.

Well, now I'm going to have to rewatch the Vixy Platinum ep, and then I'll rewatch the Carisi-at-the-homeless-shelter episode right afterwards, for the sake of completion.

But re; the schedule, Julie Martin (an exec producer) tweeted this last night:

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@JulieMartinSVU: next week, Wed Nov 9th, "Bad Rap" will air. Last ep before winter hiatus. So everyone tune in.

So, as of now (because who the hell knows), episode 18x06 will air next week (Nov. 9) and then no new episode until January 2017(!).

Has that ever happened before? 6 episodes and then the winter hiatus? For a network drama with a full season order?

And it goes without saying, but the Trump episode has been moved again, this time without a scheduled airdate.

This season has been a complete mess, on every level.

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Princess Lucky

Princess Lucky

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52 minutes ago, CelticBlackCat said:

L&O:SVU had a winter hiatus in Seasons 12 and 17.

Of course it did, but after only 6 episodes? That's barely a quarter of a season. Usually the winter hiatus starts after episode 9 or 10, either in late November or early December. Now we only get 6? Even though an additional 2 episodes were already scheduled to air? That's weird, in my opinion.

Plus, this is the fifth or sixth scheduling change in the past few weeks alone. Make up your mind, NBC.

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Hero

Hero

That just makes me angry. i mean they did a Chris Brown/ Rihanna episode, where the Rihanna character dies at the end. 

These are ripped from from the headline episodes , it's not like they are making this stuff up. 

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