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28 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

Episode 5 summary flat out says that by 5, bunker is dug out and Clarke and Bellamy are reunited with Octavia.

Probably because the most of it was shown in the trailer already.

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The 100 5×04 “Pandora’s Box” is directed by Dean White and written by Charmaine DeGraté (“Fallen,” “We Will Rise”), who clearly had a lot of fun writing the character named in her honor.

This episode will give us some fascinating glimpses into the inner lives of Charmaine Diyoza, Paxton McCreary and Zeke Shaw, and builds on the tension-filled three-way dynamic that was set up in “Sleeping Giants.”

If you pay attention, “Pandora’s Box” might also give you a hint (or two) as to what could be Diyoza’s ultimate endgame. In this episode, it feels like we are finally getting to the meat of the Eligius story, and the mythology behind it, so prepare your conspiracy theory memes.

5 teasers for ‘The 100’ 5×04 ‘Pandora’s Box’

  • Kabby fans, brace yourselves.
  • While waiting for Bellamy’s call, Raven and Murphy find an unexpected way to pass the time.
  • As Jason Rothenberg himself has revealed, Bellamy and Clarke share a beautiful, intimate scene that includes a “special, emotional hug” which will melt even the coldest of hearts.
  • The expression “boom out” has never been as appropriate to use for an episode as this one.
  • Indra is the MVP.

 

Previewing ‘The 100’ 5×04 ‘Pandora’s Box’: Who’s gonna pull the trigger?

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45 minutes ago, CooperTV said:
  • Kabby fans, brace yourselves.

Of course there's going to be issues with the couple, with Kane in the midst of the Hunger Games, and Abby's probably none too thrilled.

46 minutes ago, CooperTV said:
  • While waiting for Bellamy’s call, Raven and Murphy find an unexpected way to pass the time.

This kind of excites me. 

46 minutes ago, CooperTV said:
  • As Jason Rothenberg himself has revealed, Bellamy and Clarke share a beautiful, intimate scene that includes a “special, emotional hug” which will melt even the coldest of hearts.

More teasing toward the couple that may never be? Seriously, I'd be impressed if they actually made steps toward these two actually becoming a couple, instead of little teases here and there. 

46 minutes ago, CooperTV said:
  • The expression “boom out” has never been as appropriate to use for an episode as this one.

Boom out? That's an expression? So explosions, I gather, probably an explosion at the bunker to get out.

47 minutes ago, CooperTV said:
  • Indra is the MVP.

Isn't she always?

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After 5.06 my current speculation for the end of the season is Madi becoming a Commander with Octavia being overthrown and taken away by Bellamy to another planet, Clarke is forced to leave Madi behind on Earth with her people while SpaceKru and co are going to space in the cryosleep. Plus the plot twist with Eligius 3.

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Spoilers for the already aired The Dark Year from Reddit:

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"Clark and Maddi made it to the valley and are helping McCreery and warned him that Octavia is coming. Clark found out her mom is an addict and helped detox her. Abbie reveals what happened during the dark year: the biofarm needed a year to start up properly, so the only solution to get adequate protein was to eat people who lost in the fighting pits. Octavia didn’t want to do this at first but Abbie told her it’s the only way. Caine and other people refused at first but Octavia started shooting people and threatened them to eat, so eventually everyone did. Abbie blames herself for the dark year bc it was her idea for Octavia to take away people’s choice to eat human meat. Clarke forgives her mom though. Maddi is mad at Clarke for helping cure McCreery of his illness. Murphy, Emory, Echo, Shaw, and Raven are hiding Diyoza and Caine in the cave (the baby is ok). They sneak into the valley and steal their guns and tell Diyoza how they’re stationing the weapons. Diyoza realizes McCreery is using her book and her strategies. Spacekru radios Bellamy and tells him McCreery’s plan. Raven and Shaw kiss. Caine realizes that if Octavia knows the plans and wins, she will rule like a dictator. So him and Diyoza go to McCreery and tell him Octavia knows his plan and decide to help him. Murphy and co are in the woods planning a counter attack not knowing that Caine and Diyoza are with McCreery."

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The season 6 premiere called 'Sanctum" was at Wondercon March 31th. Spoilers for the episode:

"****" is Shaw. Which we figured out since the actor signed up for another show at the end of season 5.

There's rumors that Alycia Debnam-Carey (Lexa) is going to be a guest star in season 6.

Spoilers from Reddit:

It’s been confirmed we will watch s6e1 today if it’s allowed I can edit and update the post with what the cast said as well as the episode.

Edit show spoilers below don’t read further!!!!!!!!!!

It opens with the main group looking at the moon where the eligius 3 group landed. Jorden mentions theirs going to go to site alpha one of 3 eligious drop zones. Clark, Bellamy, Shaw, Echo, Jackson, Nate, Murphy, and Emori all go down. Raven was told to stay so both pilots aren’t risked and Jordan was told to stay because they promised his parents they’d protect him. Abby stays to try to save Kane with Nylas and Jordan’s help. Halfway down they lose commas and can’t contact the mother ship.

They land and everything seems ok. Nice throwback to S1 where Clark says Bellamy should get off first this time and Murphy asks if anyone has anything better to say than we’re back bitches. They walk a bit and find a lake where Murphy immediately jumps in and takes Emori with him. Thankfully no giant monster attacks them and it seems to be a relaxing day.

They camp there for the night and notice the sound of bugs stop then they got attacked by a giant swarm and begin running towards an eligious 3 beacon. Shaw crosses some kind of threshold where he begins to be hit with massive radiation. Clarke runs in and turns it off due to her immunity but it was too late and Shaw dies. The next day the reach what seems to be the main compound of the eligious decedents but it’s totally empty, not abandoned but empty. They walk around a bit and Murphy try’s to break into a house where they notice some chains on the wall.

Emori try’s to open the main building but can’t and starts to get what seems to be frustrated. Murphy tries to get her to dance with a music player he found but she rebuffs him. Clarke digs around and finds a school. Bellamy joins her and they had a nice conversation about the 5 years she was alone and how she talked to him everyday. They then come out and Bellamy takes this book he found and starts to read it with Clarke and Echo. Out of nowhere they hear screaming and Emori is chasing Murphy down and begins to attack him.

They finish the book and realize it’s a warning of a pathogen in the air that turns people murderous when the two suns come together.

Back on the ship Abby begins surgery to help Kane and tells Nyla to get blood from every skykru member BUT Octavia while Abby gets ravens blood. Abby and Raven have a not so great heart to heart about Abby’s addiction and what she did to Raven last year. Nyla wakes up no one except bloodraina where she does some kind of I’m here for you my emperor Darth Vader shit.

Octavia goes to Abby and Kane right as he’s waking up and they get into a fighting match over who did what and who’s a monster. Kane then starts seizing and coughing up blood where he almost dies but gets put on ice at the very last second saving his life for the time being.

Panel spoilers: Not too much was revealed here mainly a lot of cast stuff one really interesting thing was there MIGHT be a little something something in the potential works for a series set right after the bombs fall but we don’t know yet.

Shoutout to the last fan question because that guy was really cool. Cough me cough

If anyone has follow up questions or anything I’d be happy to answer this is all I remember but I think it got a lot of it :))

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Every spoiler I've seen has been terrible so I'm hoping none of them are true.

For a show with near constant war, nuclear devastation, cannibalism, and killer children it sure is boring.

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On 4/7/2019 at 8:26 AM, WearyTraveler said:

It seems episodes 1 and 2 have been leaked to streaming sites

And it seems that the writing has not improved with Season 6.  Episode 2 is not good.

Plus, you would think that someone would know by now that you should lock the door on the Eligius dropship after landing .... so no one could steal it.

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On 4/10/2019 at 2:24 PM, slf said:

Every spoiler I've seen has been terrible so I'm hoping none of them are true.

For a show with near constant war, nuclear devastation, cannibalism, and killer children it sure is boring.

I've watched both episodes. The spoilers about Shaw's death and the double star psychosis are true.

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They arrive to the new planet with two suns. They found an empty settlement on it. Shaw died randomly in the first ten minutes (he and Raven had sex in the first five minutes of e1). There was a children's book about toxin that's activated by the eclipse of the two suns. After that they started to experience the effects, went crazy and tried to kill people closes to them (Emori tried to kill Murphy, Bellamy tried to get to Clarke, Echo and Murphy, Clarke tried to kill herself).

There was also a flashback to 238 years prior to that, to the first colony, where a head scientist killed his wife and the entire colony, and attempted to kill his daughter (she named the planet  Sanctum) due to the eclipse psychosis. These three people are highly regarded by the present day colonists, for some reason.

In the present day the space ship was overrun by four people from the planet but Raven asked Dyioza (and Madi, because reasons??) to help to get rid of them. The lady who left led the Eligius crew to the settlement where Clarke and co were.

Octavia tried to commit suicide via crowd beating. Meh.

Kane is in stasis again because he's in a bad way.

Raven hates Abby. Murphy and Emori hate Clarke. Bellamy dislikes Octavia.

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Some post 6x02 articles about what's coming up:

Article talking about Raven vs Clarke

Article discussing Murphy's arc for this season after his near death experience

So basically, it looks like Raven will blame Clarke for Shaw's death, which is no surprise and all annoyance by me. Stop blaming Clarke! She did nothing this time! 

And Murphy does survive (obviously) but him almost dying will start his darker arc. It does cause some concern, as the showrunner does say this about Murphy:

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In the Season 6 trailer, we heard a voice that sounds an awful lot like Murphy's say, "I'm pretty sure I'm going to hell," so could he have gotten a glimpse at the beyond when he nearly drowned? And if so, what on earth could he have seen that scared him so bad? We'll all just have to wait and see, but now we're super curious whether this renewed fear of death will inspire Murphy to change his ways (maybe he can avoid hell if he tries to be a better person?) or if he'll simply go to even greater lengths to ensure his own survival — at whatever cost.

I do worry about the latter happening. I love the growth that Murphy has gone through, where he's learned that he can fight to survive but it doesn't mean at the cost of his loved ones. But it sounds like that's likely to change. I know he's supposed to get some screentime with Jordan, with potentially corrupting him.

I also like the confirmation that Murphy was simply immune to the red sun, just like how drugs affect everyone differently (in this case, it didn't affect Murphy at all). 

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On 5/8/2019 at 7:56 AM, Lady Calypso said:

I also like the confirmation that Murphy was simply immune to the red sun, just like how drugs affect everyone differently (in this case, it didn't affect Murphy at all). 

Perhaps, like Ezekiel on The Librarians, he was already the worst possible version of himself.

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Spoilers for the next three episodes:

7x02:

Clarke and Bellamy are not in this episode.

We see flashbacks of Octavia and what happened to her in the anomaly. That scene under water, is Octavia swimming up to the surface and arriving at a new planet. Diyoza is already there and is in labor. When Octavia arrived, Diyoza had already been there for 3 months. Octavia helps her give birth to Hope and it’s a call back to Bellamy helping Aurora give birth to Octavia.

Octavia, Diyoza and Hope spend 10 years on this planet called Sky Ring (because of a wormhole close by, time moves faster there than it does on Sanctum) Octavia is at that point older than Bellamy was when she went into the anomaly. Octavia tries to get back to Bellamy for 6 years but after disagreements with Diyoza (we see in the trailer) she sort of gives up after a while. Octavia writes Bellamy a letter, telling him that she now understands everything he did for her (as she has helped raise Hope), how she wishes that he is happy etc. Octavia tells Hope about her people, the same way Clarke did with Madi. Octavia promises Hope that she will bring “Clarke, Madi and Bellamy” to Hope (when Octavia tries to leave one of those times) and Hope asks “and Murphy?” And Octavia says “and Murphy”.

This planet is also some sort of prison planet that is controlled by the people that control the anomaly. So at some point something happens that separates Octavia, Hope and Diyoza. Hope grows up on Sky Ring but we do not know what happened to Diyoza and Octavia after the second time she disappears in the anomaly. Most likely captured. Hope saw Octavia in 7x01 and that was a memory from their 10 years together that Hope can’t remember.

Hope, Echo and Gabriel arrive at the same planet in “current” time. They spend a long time on the Sky Ring. Echo is desperate to save Bellamy but they can’t get out. Turns out, there are two prisoners on the planet at different times and they start to make plans to escape and find Bellamy. They find out Bellamy was taken by some people called “the disciples” lead by a man named Anders. Echo also finds the letter Octavia left for Bellamy but Hope rips it away from her because she doesn’t want Echo to touch Octavia’s things.

Basically the episode is Octavia flashbacks and Hope, Echo and Gabriel arriving and trying to find out where they are.

7x03:

Bellamy is still missing.

Sanctum stuff. Clarke and Gaia under the tree as we see in the trailer, Clarke holding Abby’s ring. Clarke says she has nothing left from her parents. Gaia says that’s not true, you are here. Clarke then buries the ring and Gaia buries the flame. Gaia says “your fight is over” and Clarke says “may we meet again”. Indra joins them, they have to deal with Sanctum.

Most of Clarke’s one on one scenes are with Gaia in 7x03 and 7x04.

Murphy and Emori are staying in the palace. At some point Raven walks in on them and Murphy jokes about that happening for 6 years now, since they were on the Ring together. Murphy and Emori need to keep pretending to be Primes. Raven needs Emori’s help with the reactors on Sanctum because there has been some problems and if they explode everyone will die. (We see that man, James die in the trailer). Basically they all need to fix it.

Tension in Sanctum between all these different groups. Wonkru are angry and want Madi to lead them, not only getting information from Gaia or Indra. Indra goes to get Madi, Clarke and Gaia stop her. Gaia tells Wonkru she destroyed the Flame. Wonkru are now angry and basically go back to their original “krus”.

Raven is fed up with Wonkru and turns to Eligius to help with the problem (Eligius are trying to take over Sanctum). Then Raven, Emori and Murphy work on the reactor thing, Emori has to get in and fix shit, she has little time to do that. Murphy and Raven are stressed and when things go bad Raven yells at her to “get out of there” (trailer). Emori and Murphy get radiation sickness. Raven does not. Because of the radiation, Eligius are not safe and some of them die. Raven finds herself in Clarke’s shoes so to speak, people dying in her “care”. Murphy says something about welcoming Raven to “the grey world”. One who dies is Hatch, his wife Nikki is not happy and attacks Raven. Raven thinks she deserves it for causing their deaths.

Clarke is still dealing with Russell, to kill him or not. She and Gaia sit on the porch, talking (trailer). Finally after their talk, Clarke decides not to kill Russell because things will get worse if she kills him.

7x04:

We see young Hope living alone after Octavia and Diyoza disappeared. She has learned to take care of herself. The anomaly comes back and she runs towards it. People come out of the anomaly. They are prisoners sent to Sky Ring to atone for their sins. Hope fights back but then later becomes friends with one prisoner. Hope learns how to fight from him so she can fight back the next time the anomaly comes back. At the time, Hope is 10 years old. Hope grows up and the anomaly comes back. The prisoner, her friend helps her so she can get into the anomaly but by doing so, he dies for her.

Back to Echo, Hope and Gabriel in their time on Sky Ring. The prisoners have some sort of chip/memory thing in them. It goes back to Becca and pre-end of the world stuff. If you access the memory chip thingy, you get information from people. Even if they die and have that thing in them, you can still get information. That’s how the anomaly people find out stuff about people.

Back on Sanctum. One of the people Echo killed in 7x01 is found in the woods and brought to Clarke. Jordan then tells Clarke there are people (the disciples) on Sanctum and have asked for Clarke. Clarke goes to meet with them (trailer) but first she wants someone to take a look at the suit they have found. So Clarke goes to Raven. Clarke and Raven have a moment because Raven is upset and feels responsible for Eligius members dying. Clarke helps her process her choices and what that does to them to have to make tough calls.

Clarke goes to meet the people who called for her. It’s Anders. Anders says that they are the disciples and need Clarke’s help. Anders’ - and the disciples’ leader believe Clarke is “the key to win the last great war the human race will ever fight. You should know time moves much faster where your friends are, every second counts”

Clarke goes back to Raven who is working on the suit and finds out the anomaly is a wormhole. Raven asks “Bellamy, Octavia and Echo, where are they?”

Back to Echo, Hope and Gabriel. Still stuck on Sky Ring. It’s been years. We find out Octavia told Hope greek myths (flashback), like Bellamy did to Octavia when she was a child. Echo is trying to trick the prisoner Orlando so they can get out of there and use the anomaly to get to Bellamy. They find out information about the face tattoos and what it means. Apparently it depends on what level you are as a disciples. Then there’s something about the prisoners coming to Sky Ring having some sort of faith or religion. Gabriel talks to Orlando when he sees him praying. They talk about truth, belief faith etc. After a while Orlando and Gabriel, Echo and Hope make a deal to help one another out so they can go through the anomaly when it comes. But only if Echo, Hope and Gabriel promise not to kill the Orlando’s family (the disciples) when they come through the anomaly.

Echo has now spent 5 years with these people and she promises that she won’t hurt Orlando’s people when they arrive. During this time, Echo and Hope have cut their hair, trained to fight and Orlando marks Echo and Hope on their faces with the anomaly signs so they can blend in and get through and around the anomaly. Echo is seen as a loyal person, even to the people she’s spent 5 years with on Sky Ring. Then Orlando’s “prison time” is up and his people come through the anomaly. Echo has tied Orlando, waiting for what will happen when the people come through. Echo had promised that she would let them live if they got help to get through the anomaly. Echo being Echo kills them all and Hope and Gabriel are shocked. (call back to when Finn killed those grounders in s2). Orlando who has helped them all these years and believed Echo, is horrified and cries when he sees what she has done (man gagged and crying in the trailer). Echo walks up to Orlando, tied and gagged, Hope and Gabriel yell at Echo not to kill him. Echo leaves Orlando with a knife to basically fend for himself. Maybe because she spent 5 years with him 🤷🏻‍♀️. Echo tells Hope and Gabriel that Orlando can’t be trusted not to ruin their plan when they get to Bardo because they (Echo, Hope and Gabriel) are not Orlando’s people. Hope and Gabriel don’t argue and they don’t help Orlando. Hope, Echo, Gabriel then leave in the anomaly that has arrived and their goal is Bardo, to get to Bellamy and it is also where Octavia and Diyoza might be. It has now been 5 years since Echo last saw Bellamy. We do not know how time moves for Bellamy.

Clarke and Raven find out there’s information about Clarke in the suit they found. The disciples somehow know Clarke is called “Wanheda” because it says so on the suit/helmet. Clarke goes back to Anders and asks to see her friends. Anders tells Clarke they are no longer on “Penance” the real name for Sky Ring and that the prisoner there (Orlando) was betrayed so he killed himself. Clarke, believing Bellamy is there, says that she doesn’t believe her friends would betray anyone. Anders does not tell Clarke that Bellamy was not there. Anders says he has proof. Orlando left a note. Clarke says she won’t say anything until she gets proof that her friends are alive. Anders says they don’t have to give Clarke proof, they already have a machine that taps into people’s memories so they already know things about Clarke’s friends and Clarke. Who are they getting all these memories from? Octavia? Bellamy? Diyoza? We don’t know.

Clarke tells Anders she won’t go with him and that she has friends with her. Anders says he also has friends with him, invisible like in 7x01, they appear. Apparently they can go into “ghost mode” like putting an Iphone on silence, lol. Then Jordan comes up, Clarke gets angry that he is there but turns out he is a distraction. Ander’s friends are shot. Then Raven appears with her suit in ghost mode. Raven is yet again forced to kill people. She is upset. But they go to the anomaly stone (trailer). They don’t know where it goes, what happens there etc. When they start to walk into the anomaly stone, Gaia tells Clarke she will stay behind with Madi. Raven, Clarke, Niylah, Miller and Jordan go (jump team). Gaia climbs up from the anomaly stone cave but is attacked by a disciples person in ghost mode. When Gaia wakes up, the disciple person is taking the anomaly stone offline (whatever that means) and she tries to fight them again but she is pulled through the anonaly and disappears. The anomaly stone collapses.

The jump team arrive at a snowy and windy planet. There is nothing there. They don’t know how to survive or how fast time moves there. And they have no idea how to find another anomaly stone so they are stuck there. Episode ends.

Retelling of the spoilers from the Bellarkespoiled twitter account that was deleted the other day

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The same account that spoiled Bellamy's death said Clarke will see Lexa again in the finale when she "transcends" and it'd implied to be Clarke's romantic endgame. There are also suggestions that Madi dies before the finale but I'm not sure about the origin of that info. The appearance of Lexa corresponds with Alycia Debnam Carey twits about the show recently. Also, the actress who played Gina commented on the series finale as well, so she'd be in it in some capacity.

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I don’t think we WERE lied to. I think the story we were following was the story they were telling and their intentions were to go down that path. That didn’t mean Clarke and Bellamy were guaranteed a happy ending. I was pretty sure they’d die (but damn isn’t my Marperly Ever After theory looking better than this crap,) I think they TANKED their story and yeah it was probably vengefulness. Which is just so incredibly stupid. LOL. JR failed The 100. He failed himself. He failed the characters and he failed the audience. 

Bad writer. Bad. Go sit in the corner. No more showrunning for you. 

But I’m cool with watching the last episodes. Yes it feels like Clarke is half there, just going through the motions, completely eviscerated, but dammit, I’m here to hold them accountable for their failures. 

What a stupid fucking ending. There’s literally no way it can be a good season, even if she wakes up, and it’s all been a near death vision from her last battle with Josephine in s6, with a side of premonition due to the proximity of the anomaly, and Bellamy is still alive and she saves her mom from being mindwiped and stops Hope from swiping Octavia, and tells them about the invisible soldiers so they are stopped, and goes in there and wakes Cadogan up and slaps him upside the head because the stupid Last War is the end of humanity. 

Although that is actually the only way I can see it salvaged… if this whole season is the timeline that she keeps from happening and then brings everyone back to Earth at the end to start over. 

But it still ruined the season even if this ending would salvage the show. 

Anyway I’m still watching @jeanie205 I don’t regret it, although wednesday morning I woke up and I was like, OH UGH IT’S SHOW DAY, can it just be over already? 

 

Some series finale specs

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The 100 Series Finale: EP Promises Closure, 'Surprise Guests' and More
By Andy Swift / September 29 2020
https://tvline.com/2020/09/29/the-100-series-finale-surprise-guests-jason-rothenberg-interview/ 

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“We’re going to try and wrap up as many things as we can,” showrunner Jason Rothenberg tells TVLine. “It’s a finale — and it’s a series finale on top of that — so there will be some surprise guests. Fans can have expectations of a certain scope and scale that I feel we’ve always been able to achieve in these finales.”

Wednesday’s finale also marks Rothenberg’s directorial debut, an opportunity he simply couldn’t pass up. “This was a difficult season, because we also made a pilot within the season in the middle of everything,” he says. “And because we shot the pilot so late in the season, I went right from being on the set of the prequel to prepping the finale. … It was definitely a challenge, but I’m glad I did it. I kind of wish I’d done it earlier, so I could have four or five [episodes] under my belt now, but it would have been a regret had I not.”

And here’s a fun fact (about a not-so-fun moment): The final scene from last week’s episode, during which Clarke decided to relieve Madi of her pain, was originally intended to open the series finale. “I actually wrote and directed that scene,” Rothenberg admits. “But the finale was too long, so I had to put it at the end of the previous episode. That episode originally ended prior to Clarke making the decision to euthanize her child, so there was going to be a little more time — at least in the audience’s mind — before she got to that decision.”

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Wednesday’s finale also marks Rothenberg’s directorial debut, an opportunity he simply couldn’t pass up. “This was a difficult season, because we also made a pilot within the season in the middle of everything,” he says. “And because we shot the pilot so late in the season, I went right from being on the set of the prequel to prepping the finale. … It was definitely a challenge, but I’m glad I did it. I kind of wish I’d done it earlier, so I could have four or five [episodes] under my belt now, but it would have been a regret had I not.”

So he's such an egomaniac that he had to direct the finale despite being in no way prepared from not having any experience to not spending any time prepping to direct the finale because he was more focused on the prequel.  

 

9 hours ago, CooperTV said:

Believe it or not, Mr. Rothenberg, I am not remotely surprised about that.

Ditto.

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3 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:

So he's such an egomaniac that he had to direct the finale despite being in no way prepared from not having any experience to not spending any time prepping to direct the finale because he was more focused on the prequel.  

 

Or tweak the script. There were at least six things in the finale that could have been fixed/improved with slight dialogue changes. 

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