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She doesn't seem to be replaced. They are just adding another wife along the way. If they were replacing her, they could've very easily edited out majority of her camera time and just made her a friend of. 

 

I don't think she does stand up to Bethany very much if at all.  We did see her TH about her in the preview, now whether she said that to her face, I don't know.  Doubt it.  She is being replaced so we can assume she was not giving them much and saw that would not change. 

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I don't think she does stand up to Bethany very much if at all.  We did see her TH about her in the preview, now whether she said that to her face, I don't know.  Doubt it.  She is being replaced so we can assume she was not giving them much and saw that would not change. 

 

As others have said, she is not being replaced. If she were, they wouldn't have bothered making her a HW in the first place. They'd have just edited her bits out and at most made her a "Friend of the Housewives."

 

The last-minute addition to the cast is Kathryn Edwards, who was reportedly added because Cody Simpson's mother couldn't get her visa secured and had to drop out. The new HW has nothing to do with Erika "not giving them much." 

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While her TH styling is horrendous, she has the most gorgeous skin and I would love to know the name of her dermatologist. Her botox and fillers look almost natural and that's a rarity nowadays.

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So on Erika's "Before They Were Housewives" pictures she looks lovely (http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/photos/before-they-were-housewives-erika-girardi/item/10790606), but decidedly less barbie doll-ish. In fact some of these pics appear to be at least a decade old yet she somehow looks older than she does now. I kinda wonder when this transition from understated lawyers wife to dance barbie occurred. 

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I like her real hair better than the bleached blonde with hairpieces stuff, she looks so normal and nice in those photos.  I get that the look now if for her Gay Disco job.

 

She traded youth for money, I'd say her old rich coot got the better end of the deal.  Money can come and go, but youth, once gone, is never coming back.

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No, I can't remember, did she mention how long they were together before she married him?

They say a 15/16 year marriage so far, so she would have been 28, and he would have been 60.

To me, that is still trading "youth." 28 is YOUNG. I remember those days...ha.

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Erica threw away her youth when she married the first hubs and had a kid.

A uneducated cocktail waitress, single mom raising a kid on her own isn't much fun. Grew up poor, her ex could of been a dead beat, She might of been struggling.

 

Isn't like she was a college educated young woman who had options for life. Erica wouldn't have the connections many have since her family was poor and no college.

 

15 year marriage is quite awhile for Beverly Hills. In the long run, gold diggers don't hang around that long. Maybe  money was the initial attraction, but something makes her hang around. I'm guessing she's making some good cash being the disco queen. 

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Erica threw away her youth when she married the first hubs and had a kid.

A uneducated cocktail waitress, single mom raising a kid on her own isn't much fun. Grew up poor, her ex could of been a dead beat, She might of been struggling.

 

Isn't like she was a college educated young woman who had options for life. Erica wouldn't have the connections many have since her family was poor and no college.

 

15 year marriage is quite awhile for Beverly Hills. In the long run, gold diggers don't hang around that long. Maybe  money was the initial attraction, but something makes her hang around. I'm guessing she's making some good cash being the disco queen.

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Holy cow. I just made the mistake of looking at Erika Jayne videos on YouTube. It was good for comedy hour. I'm sure that's one reason this marriage works for her - she gets to live in a nice house and have plenty of time to herself to pretend to be a star while her husband is working. She may have a significant fan base, I don't know, but I saw lots of lip syncing, and it wasn't even good lip syncing - combined with slow motion dance-posing.

I don't think she's a whore or anything along those lines because of what she does or how she dresses in her act, as it appears Bethenny might assert. She's playing a role, and that's separate from my opinion of how we've seen her behave as a human being around the others. Sad to say, though, that I have a feeling that Bethenny will eat her alive - and it's too bad, because she's not an asshole like many of the jerks for whom Bethenny has respect. If only people judged others by how they play in the sandbox. I'm in the ever-shrinking minority of Bethenny fans, (who doesn't play nicely in the sandbox) too, so this isn't about her. I'm sure Erika knows full well that Erika Jayne, Dance Barbie is a target by nature. I hope she does a good job of standing up for herself and knocking Bethenny back a bit in a classy way. I have no need to see her self-appointed judge and jury rulings in action, especially spilling over onto the other franchises. I can handle it on RHNY, but she's getting to be a little too big for her teeny britches.

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I'm sure Erika knows full well that Erika Jane, Dance Barbie is a target by nature. I hope she does a good job of standing up for herself and knocking Bethenny back a bit in a classy way.

I don't want to see her stand up for herself. She doesn't need to. If she's as confident as she appears to be, she just needs to swat that annoying gnat away and ignore her. Maybe that's why it's rumored Erika doesn't bring it in the remaining episodes. Because she won't engage with Beth.

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Erica threw away her youth when she married the first hubs and had a kid.

A uneducated cocktail waitress, single mom raising a kid on her own isn't much fun. Grew up poor, her ex could of been a dead beat, She might of been struggling.

 

Isn't like she was a college educated young woman who had options for life. Erica wouldn't have the connections many have since her family was poor and no college.

 

15 year marriage is quite awhile for Beverly Hills. In the long run, gold diggers don't hang around that long. Maybe  money was the initial attraction, but something makes her hang around. I'm guessing she's making some good cash being the disco queen. 

 

Agreed.  

 

Oddly enough, I think there's a genuine love between the two of them.  I'm sure her attraction to him initially was largely his wealth and power, but he's actually not a bad looking man for his age.  And he clearly doesn't mind her doing her dance music stuff so he must be a pretty supportive guy given she clearly doesn't need to do that.

 

I think there's more genuine caring than the lopsided love that was Yolanda and her King.

 I'm in the ever-shrinking minority of Bethenny fans, (who doesn't play nicely in the sandbox) too, so this isn't about her.

 

I used to love her.  She used to show her quick wit and she could mix a little raunch.  Now it seems like the vulgarity is all she goes for.  And it ruined my admiration and like of her.

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I still can't decide if I find her entertaining enough for another season.  She seems incredibly contrived in many ways.  though if she deflates Bethanny Frankel and her anti terrorist concrete traffic posts she calls breasts a bit I might change my mind.

 

And I don't see 15 years that long in terms of marriage let alone some kind of affirmation she is or was not a gold digger.  Gold diggers stay where there is gold.  Or a better vein to mine comes along.  All it says is that she is still there because thar's gold in them there hills.  So hubby still makes bank enough to keep her staying home instead of trolling for better prospects.

 

I'm not hating on her for it.  But I hardly think her staying where her bills get paid makes her and her hubby some kind of poster children for marriage between father figures and their live blow up doll.

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Erika is obviously not already being "replaced" in the literal sense of the term. But press coverage of Kathryn's addition to the cast did note that production was unhappy with Erika's reticence and disengagement from conflict. Of course, media reports during filming often later prove to be untrue but if the network/POP were content with the existing roster outside of Angie's visa issues, it's not as if they've never proceeded with six or less women. From what I've watched, Erika is almost wholly unconfrontational; whether that's an attribute or flaw is, of course, a subjective question. But diplomacy and composure are, generally speaking, not something that Andy or his team value; Eileen is already a voice of measured reason on the show from the perspective of many and, per the previews, Kathryn seems prepared to deliver the louder directness (can't say yet if she's genuinely aggressive or not) that is the sine qua non of the series. In my opinion, Erika was blander than beige during her WWHL appearance. But precedessors who lacked dynamism were previously asked back on other cities so I'd say her chances for a second season depend on Andy's personal regard toward her and whether or not any the vets bow out for season 7. As for her marriage, it seems to me like she knows what's up: in the scenes that have been broadcast, she's been attentive to Thomas (walking with him in the morning and carrying his work papers) without being cloying and performative like Yolanda's lingerie-and-grilled-chicken routine. She's got a handle on her husband's likes, dislikes, and expectations and caters to them subtly and sans desperation. At this point, I'd say she's got it on lock and, while not compelling television, is canny enough to keep it (meaning her marriage and the life it affords her) together.

Erika is obviously not already being "replaced" in the literal sense of the term. But press coverage of Kathryn's addition to the cast did note that production was unhappy with Erika's reticence and disengagement from conflict. Of course, media reports during filming often later prove to be untrue but if the network/POP were content with the existing roster outside of Angie's visa issues, it's not as if they've never proceeded with six or less women. From what I've watched, Erika is almost wholly unconfrontational; whether that's an attribute or flaw is, of course, a subjective question. But diplomacy and composure are, generally speaking, not something that Andy or his team value; Eileen is already a voice of measured reason on the show from the perspective of many and, per the previews, Kathryn seems prepared to deliver the louder directness (can't say yet if she's genuinely aggressive or not) that is the sine qua non of the series. In my opinion, Erika was blander than beige during her WWHL appearance. But precedessors who lacked dynamism were previously asked back on other cities so I'd say her chances for a second season depend on Andy's personal regard toward her and whether or not any the vets bow out for season 7. As for her marriage, it seems to me like she knows what's up: in the scenes that have been broadcast, she's been attentive to Thomas (walking with him in the morning and carrying his work papers) without being cloying and performative like Yolanda's lingerie-and-grilled-chicken routine. She's got a handle on her husband's likes, dislikes, and expectations and caters to them subtly and sans desperation. At this point, I'd say she's got it on lock and, while not compelling television, is canny enough to keep it (meaning her marriage and the life it affords her) together.

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Wouldn't it be a delicious moment If Erika suddenly let loose on someone bugging her?  If all this time she'd been playing the softie to show the other HWs how respectable she is -- then, POW!  Right in the kisser, as Jackie Gleason used to say?  There's also the possibility that production wants her to show her sweet side as opposed to her racy side, at least at the beginning.  (I haven't read the complaints from production).

 

So far, I've found Erika to be adorable and sweet.  She seems wholesome and honest except when she steps into one of those costumes minus anything else!  I am a little bit suspicious of her -- not in a bad way -- because I suspect there is fire beneath that sweet exterior.  To me, anyone with the seeming lack of embarrassment about playing nude on camera has to have some pretty strong guts, for lack of a better word.  Thus, I am curious about two things: (1) whether she has a gutsy side, and (2) whether that side will come out to help her if and when she encounters trouble.

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I don't want to see her stand up for herself. She doesn't need to. If she's as confident as she appears to be, she just needs to swat that annoying gnat away and ignore her. Maybe that's why it's rumored Erika doesn't bring it in the remaining episodes. Because she won't engage with Beth.

I actually agree with you here - I think just the right quick little comment (said calmly) that clearly expresses the fact that she couldn't care less about Bethenny's opinion and that she's perfectly confident and pleased with who she is would be perfect.  I love it when someone is being an asshole and are quickly shut down by another who never loses their cool.  From the looks of the little snippet we were treated to, Bethenny looks like nothing but a mean girl.  

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Let's just say I live in the area.  And an abundance of life experience that the only way you gain this wisdom is in the number of years walking the earth.

Meh. They both look satisfied with their relationship and as far as her throwing her youth by having a child young, some women do enjoy having children young.

It would be interesting to meet her son.

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Her story is so the prince and the showgirl in ways. She's fascinating and sadly would have fit in perfectly in the original format of the show.

She has a double life, a grown son, step childrwn..and a marriage that resembles a partnership. Sheven fills the role Brandi could have filled if she'd landed a wealthy man and kept away from the booze.

She probably is keeping it safe due to her husband..hence why kathryn waS added.

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Her story is so the prince and the showgirl in ways. She's fascinating and sadly would have fit in perfectly in the original format of the show.

She has a double life, a grown son, step childrwn..and a marriage that resembles a partnership. Sheven fills the role Brandi could have filled if she'd landed a wealthy man and kept away from the booze.

She probably is keeping it safe due to her husband..hence why kathryn waS added.

Sounds right.  This preview of Betheny commenting on Erika's music video and Erika's reaction is rather dull.  Betheny offers some constructive criticism and Erika basicallly says eh, whatever.  Once you absorb her looks and style which doesn't take too long, she comes off as laid back to the point of being really uninteresting imo.  So far she hasn't offered any real looks into her life beside a tour of her home and a chat with her assistants.

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I've got my fingers crossed that Erika doesn't come unhinged at Bethenny like Holla did.

 

Just keep your cool, Erika. I'd rather her come off as collected and calm than Imma-gonna-cut-you-bitch.  That would be refreshing.

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I like "cool" too rye, but she really may be too boring, too agreeable, and too careful with her words for this kind of show.  They wanted some Brandi or Kim style trashy behavior from the sex show chick, and something to spice up the ratings.  She's not cutting it in that capacity.  (Thinking of BRAVO's POV here.)  She's as careful and "correct" and not-wave-making as 2nd season Camille at this point.

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I like "cool" too rye, but she really may be too boring, too agreeable, and too careful with her words for this kind of show.  They wanted some Brandi or Kim style trashy behavior from the sex show chick, and something to spice up the ratings.  She's not cutting it in that capacity.  (Thinking of BRAVO's POV here.)  She's as careful and "correct" and not-wave-making as 2nd season Camille at this point.

 

She should have a party.  Not like Carlton's sex party.  Not like Eileen's child's pancake party.  And certainly not a white party.  What up with all the white parties anyway? BTDT.  She needs to shake it up.   I don't know how, but imo she's the biggest chameleon this franchise - maybe any - has ever seen so I hope she's got something to bring that will keep us wanting more of her.

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I like "cool" too rye, but she really may be too boring, too agreeable, and too careful with her words for this kind of show.  They wanted some Brandi or Kim style trashy behavior from the sex show chick, and something to spice up the ratings.  She's not cutting it in that capacity.  (Thinking of BRAVO's POV here.)  She's as careful and "correct" and not-wave-making as 2nd season Camille at this point.

While I totally enjoy her, I somewhat agree. She would be fine if we didn't have Eileen and Yolanda filling that role. 

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From that article:

 


Prominent attorneys and judges have called Girardi the most affable guy in the world and a consummate gentleman. The soft-spoken attorney decries the lack of civility that has crept into the legal profession. He maintains that a contentious attitude is not good for clients or the case. Girardi & Keese brings a sense of gentleness, rather than belligerence, to the practice of law.

 

Sounds like Erika is bringing the same thing to the RHOBH.  I like that Erika isn't quick to throw a wine glass.  I much prefer her brand of quiet shade.

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I thought Erika handled Bethenny just fine last night. She didn't resort to screaming or shrieking or throwing glasses of wine, yet I still feel like she stood her ground and handled herself well. I liked her insights in her talking heads, too. I really like her.

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If she wasn't married I would not care at all that she was writhing around on youtube waving her butt around in fuck me videos.  She's one step away from a porn star which like I said, no judgment, but I wonder if her older husband realizes what's going on.  Maybe they have an open marriage and he doesn't care.

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If she wasn't married, she'd be hanging on Bethenny's every word about marketing, and she'd get some stuff up for sale on her (pretty empty) website.

 

Her "job" is trophy wife, the rest is just a hobby.

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If she wasn't married I would not care at all that she was writhing around on youtube waving her butt around in fuck me videos.  She's one step away from a porn star which like I said, no judgment, but I wonder if her older husband realizes what's going on.  Maybe they have an open marriage and he doesn't care.

 

But isn't saying "she's one step away from porn star" and wondering if her "older husband realizes what's going on" basically a value judgment itself?

 

It seems pretty clear she's not keeping the "Erika Jayne" thing a secret from her husband, and if there really is no judgment about the musical alter ego, I don't see why there'd be any need to speculate that he doesn't know what's going on or that they have an open marriage.

 

I mean, maybe that speculation is correct, that he doesn't realize and/or maybe they do have an open marriage. But personally I don't see her doing anything that needs explaining beyond what she's already said.

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I don't know what to think of Erika after watching her house tour. She didn't seem connected to any of it somehow. Like, what was it she said? Something like, "Here are two icons that really mean a lot to me, and here is a Roman mosaic that I just think is really great..." and said in this really detached way. Oh, my god, bitch, you own an actual Roman mosaic?! And are those Byzantine icons?! Gahhhh!!!!! I love house porn, but that just flipped a switch with me, and my brain momentarily shorted out. It seems so wrong to have those kinds of museum quality objects just because...what? Expensive? Rare? Smelled like money? And you don't even care. She talked about them with about the same level of (dis)interest she had in her fancy, never used by her, French stove. I really hope those objects are connected to an interest or passion of her husband's.

 

 

 

I love the law. I love listening to attorneys turn black and whites into greys and vice versa. I've been in the industry since I was 16 and have so many attorneys for friends. It's a hard business but I dig it. I'm on the computer side now with a global firm and as I said, just love my attorneys. I feel really protective of them, especially the young ones.

So yeah, I can see him staying in the field until he dies. I doubt very much he didn't do a prenup, but it may have been very liberal, to protect her and her son. The child was what, 8 when they married?

But king of the class action. Dang, I'm sorry but class action work only works for the attorney. He's definitely no angel on that front.

 

The mention of Erika seeming disengaged and comments about her husband's profession brought something to the forefront of my mind. On her first episode she says more than once that her husband "is in the law business." I did the quizzical dog thing, with my head cocked to the side and my ears perked and I replayed it to make sure I heard her say what I thought she said. It is a small thing and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things but boy did it stay with me for some odd reason and the 2 comments above made me think back on it. Now I am also in the legal field - corporate law - and I have never, ever heard someone familiar or close to a lawyer refer to them as being in the law business. Practices law, in the legal field, works at a law firm, associate/partner at a law firm but never in the law business. I mean is that a west coast or southern thing? I'm on the east coast. Correct me if I'm wrong. Just strikes me as odd and makes me think she isn't really engaged or maybe just bored by it even though she may be close to it and sometimes immersed in it when she has to go to functions with him. 

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A step away from porn star is full frontal (with spreading) nude photos, then softcore Shannon Tweed movies, then topless photos. We saw blurred vag when Erika was putting her sausage casing on, but we also saw Rinna's blurred vag when she was having that waxed, and I think Rinna also eagerly turned over to have her butthole filmed, waxed and blurred too. Technically not nude writhing in a music video was standard Britney.

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From that article:

 

 

Sounds like Erika is bringing the same thing to the RHOBH.  I like that Erika isn't quick to throw a wine glass.  I much prefer her brand of quiet shade.

 

I'm liking her so far. I didn't think I would but I'm liking her. She knows exactly who she is and how people might perceive her. I get the feeling that the only opinions about her that matter to her are her sons and her husbands.

 

As far as Lisa and Bethany throwing barbs...they can suck it. I believe Lisa's twat is frozen shut and for all her going on and on about sex I bet there really isn't anything going on in her shag department. How I wish that Erica would have looked Bethany straight in the eye and said in a veiled tone " Well I'm no expert on shilling bath tub hooch, but I do know a thing or two about the entertainment business and an having a grand time. Not only that I have my sweet and loving husband whom I go home to every night, who loves me, supports all of my endeavors and is very proud of me." "So tell me how is Jason? It must pain you that you couldn't manage that part of your brand very well?"

 

Erica showed more class than Bethany or Lisa. Jealous cows.

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But isn't saying "she's one step away from porn star" and wondering if her "older husband realizes what's going on" basically a value judgment itself?

I wouldn't judge/condemn a porn star because whatever one may think of porn, it's honest work.  There's no confusion about what's going on.  To me, the Erika Jane video they were discussing on the show last night is not something a married woman would do unless her husband was okay with her getting hit on relentlessly and her probably cheating.  If that's the case and her husband is fine with her having sex with other dudes/ladies then she should put that on  RH imo.  That would be honest.  Or maybe her husband is not up to speed on what Erika Jane is really doing when she's on the road although I kind of doubt that.  He may be old but he's not stupid.

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I think her husband married her because of "what she does."  Also, frankly, I think she is much too smart, and much too careful to cheat.  She got her meal ticket, she's not jeopardizing that.  I think her husband probably knows the score and enjoys his private shows.

 

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OR, her aging husband's fetish is exhibitionism, so she keeps the career going because it turns him on.  Anything is possible.

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I wouldn't judge/condemn a porn star because whatever one may think of porn, it's honest work.  There's no confusion about what's going on.  To me, the Erika Jane video they were discussing on the show last night is not something a married woman would do unless her husband was okay with her getting hit on relentlessly and her probably cheating.  If that's the case and her husband is fine with her having sex with other dudes/ladies then she should put that on  RH imo.  That would be honest.  Or maybe her husband is not up to speed on what Erika Jane is really doing when she's on the road although I kind of doubt that.  He may be old but he's not stupid.

Performing is honest work too,IMO.

What make you think that her husband does not enjoy her persona?

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Erica and her husband have been together 15 years. She raised a son who decided to become a peace officer and serve his community. She's doing a few things right in my book.

 

As far as her marriage they seem both happy in it and I don't perceive any falseness. They support each others careers and endeavors and they both must get what they each need out of the marriage for it to have lasted this long. Love, security, family in it's many forms isn't that what marriage is about.

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I may be wrong but I thought she said last night that Erika Jane emerged only about 6 years ago.  So when she married grandpa she was doing something else, cocktail waitress?   That's what really made me think she was up to something.  It sounds like she got bored and conjured up Erika Jane after 8 or 9 years of marriage to get out of the house which of course is fine and maybe started off innocently.  But at the risk of repeating myself and I'll drop it after this, that video imo looks like an advertisement for gettin some.  if she only wanted to excite her husband she could have done home video like the rest of America.  I'd bet money she's having sex with other people and since she's so very honest she should say so.  Otherwise she's a big ol' liar.   In fact, Lisa should have asked her if she was having extra curriculars with or without her husband.  Maybe Lisa was working around that, I'll have to watch their interaction again.

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I may be wrong but I thought she said last night that Erika Jane emerged only about 6 years ago.  So when she married grandpa she was doing something else, cocktail waitress?   That's what really made me think she was up to something.  It sounds like she got bored and conjured up Erika Jane after 8 or 9 years of marriage to get out of the house which of course is fine and maybe started off innocently.  But at the risk of repeating myself and I'll drop it after this, that video imo looks like an advertisement for gettin some.  if she only wanted to excite her husband she could have done home video like the rest of America.  I'd bet money she's having sex with other people and since she's so very honest she should say so.  Otherwise she's a big ol' liar.   In fact, Lisa should have asked her if she was having extra curriculars with or without her husband.  Maybe Lisa was working around that, I'll have to watch their interaction again.

Given she also said her son was 23 5/6 years time line points to her son finally being out of the house and looking for other things to do.

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I may be wrong but I thought she said last night that Erika Jane emerged only about 6 years ago.  So when she married grandpa she was doing something else, cocktail waitress?   That's what really made me think she was up to something.  It sounds like she got bored and conjured up Erika Jane after 8 or 9 years of marriage to get out of the house which of course is fine and maybe started off innocently.  But at the risk of repeating myself and I'll drop it after this, that video imo looks like an advertisement for gettin some.  if she only wanted to excite her husband she could have done home video like the rest of America.  I'd bet money she's having sex with other people and since she's so very honest she should say so.  Otherwise she's a big ol' liar.   In fact, Lisa should have asked her if she was having extra curriculars with or without her husband.  Maybe Lisa was working around that, I'll have to watch their interaction again.

 

That's a HUGE leap in logic to say that a married pop singer who dresses scantily and sings provocative songs is doing it to cheat on his/her spouse. 

 

And glaring logic issues aside, we forget that her primary audience is gay men. So yeah... seems doubtful she's using these performances to cheat on her husband. 

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If she wasn't married I would not care at all that she was writhing around on youtube waving her butt around in fuck me videos.  She's one step away from a porn star which like I said, no judgment, but I wonder if her older husband realizes what's going on.  Maybe they have an open marriage and he doesn't care.

My guess (just a guess) is that she is completely loyal to her husband. He's a gentle healthy older man. I just have the feeling that for Erika, that meets her needs for family. 

I don't want to see her stand up for herself. She doesn't need to. If she's as confident as she appears to be, she just needs to swat that annoying gnat away and ignore her. Maybe that's why it's rumored Erika doesn't bring it in the remaining episodes. Because she won't engage with Beth.

I haven't heard the rumors. You mean she doesn't bring the drama? Just curious. 

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