sara416 January 2, 2021 Share January 2, 2021 On 10/5/2020 at 9:38 AM, lasu said: I just finished The Duel over the weekend, and holy shit, they dropped what to me was a bombshell in the last few minutes of the reunion. Apparently, early on, they all got drunk as shit and Kenny passed out cold, and Big E took his own penis and balls and rubbed it them over Kenny's face. Um, WHAT? Ok, look, I've heard of such dumb ass behavior before from guys and I have never understood it. You take YOUR dick out and rub it on another dude's face, and the other dude is supposed to be the humiliated one? Regardless, let's be clear, rubbing your genitals on an unconscious person's face is sexual assault. And I have been saying for as long as I can remember that we need to take sexual assault on males more seriously (like stop high fiving male teens who are raped by female teachers). But this case makes it so fucking clear - imagine if MTV had taken this really seriously? Do you think that MAYBE, just maybe, if MTV had taken this seriously, or if the cast had, if ANYONE took it as anything other than a gross joke, do you think that MAYBE it would have had an influence on Kenny's future behavior? This show hold up really well, and really poorly at the same time. Actually, the vast majority of the time, it seems almost timeless. It's not like The Real World where they are discussing current events or serious timely issues. There's no tv, they don't listen to music, it's just drunken hook ups and challenges, so there is very little to date it. The clothes give a little away, but the main thing that dates it is the prizes given at challenges. The only thing that is truly jarring is, like someone else mentioned above, is so much of the shit that comes out of people's mouths - even Coral saying something about Ev's penis. I can't imagine the fall out today if Robin questioned Aneesa on is she Jewish, black, pick something, why are you always something different? It's really sad watching how much B/M and MTV let things go, and it's amazing that as awful as what happened to Tonya was, it wasn't actually something much worse. They truly are so culpable for what happened to her, because they did NOTHING to try to stop the toxic sexism and just trash environment going on. Like, drunkenly ripping people's clothes off was funny! It's just a joke! Just keep the alcohol flowing and the camera rolling, nothing else matters. They repetitively asked people back they shouldn't have. CT shouldn't have been asked back after he punched Davis, and he sure as shit should have been banned for life after his stalking of Adam. I love CT, and I love his redemption arc as must as the next girl, but it shouldn't have happened, it was near cruel to do put Adam in that situation. It simply shouldn't have happened. Just like it they took what happened to Kenny seriously, what happened to Tonya might have never happened. I finished the reunion and felt the same way. I remember guys in my husband's fraternity "tea bagging" guys who passed out and feeling mildly uncomfortable with it 17 years ago, but looking back on stuff like this now...yikes. It's hard to watch everyone on stage laughing so hard at what E did. 4 Link to comment
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