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My favorite part of yesterday’s show ~ aside from Justin bringing it & showing acting chops I haven’t seen from him before (I actually just started regularly watching the week of Steffy’s living room tub head bonk/Insta-Liam-love) ~ was Justin casually dropping how he’s paid his dues, & $Bill’s sons just keep popping up out of nowhere & shoving him back. He’s not wrong. 
 

My prediction is that once Quarter comes out, Justin & Carter will swap jobs: Carter to Spencer, Justin to Forrester. Their personalities are opposite of those companies, but I can’t see either keeping his current job, but I can see $Bill scooping up Carter. Justin would be a harder sell, with Ridge, but who knows??

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I can feel bad for Justin for about a minute. Bill has used him as his clean up man, but at the same time Justin was on board for it. What I need to understand is why now? Is it because Bill kept Justin in the dark about Vinny, but still used him to clean up shit? Or is it because Bill said Wyatt would be running SP while he and Liam were incarcerated, and he wanted Justin to concentrate on the case? Maybe a little of both? I really think it is more about Bill not trusting Justin enough to tell him what happened. Given all the stuff Justin has taken care of, he probably felt punched in the gut. 

I have to give Mr. Spears credit though, because I felt his conflict. The play of emotions on his face was spot on as well. And I think that is what got to me; the struggle. Justin feels hurt and betrayed and wants Bill to pay, but in order to do that he has to hurt a lot of innocent people. Let's see where this leads us; they certainly have gotten my attention. 

I ff'd through most of the rest because I already knew the dialog:

Liam didn't do it on purpose

Liam is innocent

Liam has to be there for his daughters

Hope is struggling

It is all Bill's fault

The only exception for me was Ridge's dialog. Usually Ridge's ranting about Bill goes in one ear and out the other, but I felt for him about the whole helicopter thing. I have never forgiven Bill for that. It wasn't funny and it wasn't cute. And it nearly cost Ridge his livelihood, not to mention his life and all his faculties. 

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My prediction is that once Quarter comes out, Justin & Carter will swap jobs: Carter to Spencer, Justin to Forrester. Their personalities are opposite of those companies, but I can’t see either keeping his current job, but I can see $Bill scooping up Carter. Justin would be a harder sell, with Ridge, but who knows??

It's funny, I read a spoiler that Wyatt would catch Carter making himself at home in Bill's office and I assumed it was a mis-type. Maybe not? I could see Quinn pressuring Bill to hire him, especially if she and Carter decide to become a public couple. But Justin at FC I have a harder time imagining. I don't know how Thomas would be okay with that unless Justin releases him, does the right thing with the Vinny video, and the two of them agree never to speak of the kidnapping and temporary hostage situation ever again. Bygones! But yeah, that'd be a hard pass for Ridge because of the helicopter drop.

If Justin survives this story arc at all I'll be amazed, frankly. This seems like an exit for the actor to me.

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4 minutes ago, RuntheTable said:

The only exception for me was Ridge's dialog. Usually Ridge's ranting about Bill goes in one ear and out the other, but I felt for him about the whole helicopter thing. I have never forgiven Bill for that. It wasn't funny and it wasn't cute. And it nearly cost Ridge his livelihood, not to mention his life and all his faculties. 

I might be alone at this table, but I forgave Bill for that. I haven't forgiven him for nearly killing his son and Sally by blowing up SF (because he had no right to take SF away from Sally in the first place) or for him throwing away Brooke because of precious Skye.

But AFAIC, Ridge reaped what he sowed in Dubai. He showed up to interrupt the Brill wedding just because he could and because he likes nothing better than to fuck up Brooke's life, especially if another man not him is involved. He was pledged to Katie via the red ribbon of true wuv so why he showed up in the first place is beyond me and all so he could shove the photos/video of Bill and Quinn being together in Brooke's face. Nevermind that (1) it was none of his damn business and (2) Bill and Brooke weren't together at the time the single Quill hookup happened. A hookup which happened the very same night as the aborted Bridge nuptials (Katie faking heart trouble), that's how not together Brill was.

He showed up to not only ruin their wedding day, he also assaulted Bill, knocking him unconscious, and dragged Brooke off to the helicopter (one could argue kidnapping as she was trying to pull away and screaming at him, "What are you doing?" and yelling for Bill). Instead of worrying about fastening his seatbelt, he was too busy ensuring Brooke didn't try to get out of the helicopter and he bodily prevented her from moving, despite her putting her hands against him to push him away and telling him to "wait," which is akin to "stop" and, clearly upset, telling him she wasn't sure this was the best thing to do. She begs him to "take a minute," she begs him to "STOP!" but he continued to keep his fucking hands on her and bodily blocked her so she cannot do anything but sit in that confined space. It's his own damn fault he was in the helicopter in the first place and without fastening his seat belt. 

What Justin did wasn't right nor Bill but an unforgiveable act on the part of him or Bill? Not IMO. Had Ridge respected Brooke to be the grown adult woman she was, he never would have shown up in the first place, much less manhandled her into sitting in the helicopter. You reap what you sow, mo-fo.

Besides, seeing Ridge fall will never not be hilarious. And he needed a bath anyways.

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I guess I would find Justin's actions more believable if he had "snapped" like this when Thomas killed his niece, Emma, and got away with it!  At least that would have made sense.

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Eric to Shauna today (she gets a faraway look in her eyes and he surmises she's thinking about Carter): "Any woman would be lucky to be in Carter’s arms. I know Quinn feels the same way."

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Paris really thinks she’s hot shit and doesn’t have to knock on the CFO’s office door and can walk right in. No Paris, if the door is closed, you need permission to enter unless your sure nobody is in the office.  And than you have the other sister who just walks in like she owns the place.   Paris’ side eye and disapproval looks makes her think she has the moral high ground where she just has a monkey wrench.  

I love the way when someone looks uncomfortable it always has to be questioned. Eric really Shanna is keeping something from you. Yes she is but what makes you think other than the stupid story line that it’s about you. 

Justin, you self righteous dumb fuck ass hat. You had to work for everything?  Bill wasn’t handed anything either. Bill is a self made man and doesn’t even have half the education you had. Bill has a master’s degree from the University of Hard Knocks where he majored in ruthlessness.  Get over yourself Justin. 

I know things move in sloth pace on B&B but I hope by next week somebody realizes that Lurch is missing. 
 

Tonight is the Daytime Emmy Awards. If JMW or TK win than “something is rotten in the state of Denmark”.  🤭

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It's funny how the show set up this 'high stakes' situation with Thomas knowing the truth about Liam's innocence in killing Vinny and being held hostage and yet-

A good portion of the audience hates Liam and wants him to rot in jail so they don't want Thomas to get out to tell the truth.

A good portion of the audience hates Thomas and doesn't want him to get out because he deserves to suffer.

So you have a nice portion of the audience that is pretty much okay with Thomas and Liam staying locked up. I can say that even though I like Liam, this whole situation is falling flat in terms of urgency.

A more urgent way to play it? Steffy or Hope was the one that found the evidence. It would've made sense for either of them to go running to Justin since he's the lawyer and then they be gobsmacked that he's turned on Bill and wants to let him and Liam rot.

But no way in HELL could they make it work of Justin - a black man- holding Steffy or Hope hostage and it look alllll kinds of wrong even if storywise it makes the most sense vs this Thomas crap.  Justin is gonna have enough problems once Bill finds out what he did - he doesn't need the audience turning on him too.

But Steffy going into labor while being holed up with Finn tearing LA apart looking for her? Stakes.

Hope missing with Thomas and Brooke in an unholy alliance to find her and tearing up LA looking for her? Stakes.

Thomas banging on a cage door while flipping her long hair around? Not a big deal to me, LOL.

As for a lawyer swap between Justin and Carter - Justin was the one that was at the helm of the helicopter when Ridge was flipped out over the sea. No way his butt gets hired as FC, LOL.

Carter at Spencer Pub I can see because once Carter and Ridge have their fallout and Carter is fired, he may be ready to dole out FC some payback, NDAs be damned. And if Carter tries to sue FC for wrongful termination, he'd be laughed out of court once the judge heard he banged the owner's wife.  Carter may well be going dark for a bit.

 

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Lol, tough guy Bill about to throw down in the yard. If he starts eyeballing the wrong guy the stallion might get turned into a gelding.

Oy vey, how many more days will we have to endure Thomas trying to convince Justin to let him go?

Quinn was an awful mistake, Carter? Please. You only describe it as "awful" and a "mistake" because you got caught. If Zoe hadn't shown up that fateful night you and Quinn would probably still be going at it like bunnies on crack.

"Maybe Quinn's starting to rub off on him." Dang, Paris. Target acquired.

Justin is making the classic Bond villain mistake: running his mouth too much. Meanwhile, I watch the guy strut in his tailored designer suit; imagine the six or seven figure salary he likely earns; picture the luxury car he probably drives; and, gosh, I don't feel so sorry for him. And I guess that's what Bradley is counting on. I think Justin is being sacrificed to prop Thomas and Liam.

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Stuffy won the Daytime Emmy for best actress probably because she was able to keep dead animals on her head. But maybe it was the ability to speak the same dialog day after day. 
 

Thankfully Ridge didn’t win but if there was a category for the best unwashed look, Ridge would win. 

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Paris, either tell the secret or move on.  There's no point to the snark except to get on her damn high horse about how she's in the know.  I can't buy her as the concerned sister in a bad spot, bc she acts just makes it seem like she's getting involved in something that's none of her business.  

I had to go back and check to make sure it was today's show I was in fact watching, as Thomas and Justin had the same "As you know..." conversation.  And Thomas did the "Justin, listen to me......ARGHCANSOMBDYHEARME!" weird quiet to yelling transition.  

I'm guessing Justin as a sudden bad guy is a spur of the moment cheap way of moving the plot along.  Which is too bad, because I always thought there was a story to tell about how weirdly loyal Justin was to Bill.  I've never even really liked the guy, but if they'd let us actually get to know Justin as a character, I think it could have been a storyline all it's own that eventually lead to a similar outcome to this.  But this is just tacky and stupid as is.  

Yet somehow, this show is still better than Y&R.  

 

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23 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

What Justin did wasn't right nor Bill but an unforgiveable act on the part of him or Bill? Not IMO. Had Ridge respected Brooke to be the grown adult woman she was, he never would have shown up in the first place, much less manhandled her into sitting in the helicopter. You reap what you sow, mo-fo.

Thank you for that whole post. Ridge was doing that shit he always did everytime Brooke was in any danger of moving on but coming in to throw shit without offering committment of his own. Bill owed Brooke no explanation and it absolutely wasn't Ridge's place to enlighten her. And in light of how easily he was willing to step out with Quinn the day before their Sydney wedding, it makes his outrage all the more eye roll worthy.

Liam may be my second least favorite character at the moment next to Flo but  shit like this reminds me of why I hated Ridge for most of my B&B viewership, even before Ronnnnnnnnn Moss was replaced with a Shrek double.

17 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I think Justin is being sacrificed to prop Thomas and Liam.

Yup. And like I mentioned on another post, these cheap stunts almost never work to make people like the characters being propped up. If anything, we just get more fed up.

The one kinda exception was the Bridge reunion in 2007. Trashing Nick is the one sin I refuse to forgive this show for but credit where it's due: Ridge had to actually acknowledge the shiftiness of his decision to marry Taylor and Brooke (who was single for much of this story) did not take him back out of loneliness or handwave all of it on Stephanie and it was seeing Ridge truly work for Brooke's affection and trust that sold it to me, not the lazy ass out of the blue jealousy Nick had that led him to bedding Bridget out of spite.

And then, like the bozo he is, Bell ruined that by having Brooke running back the minute Nick moved on to Taylor, but I digress. 

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16 hours ago, nkotb said:

My prediction is that once Quarter comes out, Justin & Carter will swap jobs: Carter to Spencer, Justin to Forrester. Their personalities are opposite of those companies, but I can’t see either keeping his current job, but I can see $Bill scooping up Carter. Justin would be a harder sell, with Ridge, but who knows??

Ridge will probably hire him just to stick it to Bill. 

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On 6/24/2021 at 8:00 AM, RuntheTable said:

And Vinny's phone is still out there.

I've been waiting for some homeless waif to find it.

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8 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

I've been waiting for some homeless waif to find it.

I thought Bill took it?

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34 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

I thought Bill took it?

No, he threw it over the edge of the cliff so it’s still out there somewhere. That’s why I’ve guessed a hiker will find it. 

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But didn't Bill run over Vinny's phone with his car before he tossed it? At best I think someone would have to try to take the SIM card out and put it in another phone.

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4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

But didn't Bill run over Vinny's phone with his car before he tossed it? At best I think someone would have to try to take the SIM card out and put it in another phone.

Excuse me, but don't try to bring logic or how-things-actually-work into this. You should know better, Joi! We've had to suspend disbelief over Thomas receiving Vinnie's video by resetting his phone. Phones are apparently magical things. I think we just have to wait and see what happens if Vinnie's phone comes into this. As someone upthread pointed out, the cloud was mentioned. Who knows, Vinnie's suicide may even show up in Brooke's magical picture frame.

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Excuse me, Hope, but the “entire world” doesn’t give a 💩 about Liam and his guilt or lack thereof. 🙄

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Justin, if you are in charge than you are an absolute schmuck.  How are you going to keep Lurch from telling the truth?  Kill him?  Keeping him locked up hoping he will not be missed?  Does Justin think that Bill will just give him the keys to the Castle in stead of Wyatt?  Will Justin know have to get rid of Wyatt?  

If Chief Hot Dog and the DA where trying to build a murder case, than why aren’t the police looking further into Vinny’s background and phone records?  

I thought Wyatt was stupid but not that stupid. Justin tells Wyatt to go look after Liam and Bill but Wyatt never asks Justin isn’t that your job. You’re the lawyer not me.

In order for Justin being able to sign a binding contract he must be a corporate officer. So Justin has the ability to conduct business but he has the sads because he has to run it by Bill first?  Well so does Liam and Wyatt. 

 

 

 

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Good grief, how many times in one day does Hope get to visit Liam?

Aren't vow renewals usually done in conjunction with wedding anniversaries?

Why does that storage room have a security lock on the inside? What reason would anyone ordinarily have to keep things from getting out?

Quinn and Shauna have learned nothing. They're still discussing the big secret in a place where they could be overheard. So not smart.

TMW the man you cuckolded asks you to conduct his marriage vow renewal. You need to pass on this one, Carter. In fact, you probably need to get out of the wedding officiating business altogether.

I think Bill is a poor CEO if he has no one who can step in to run things need be. That person shouldn't be the company attorney who's also his personal attorney and fixer. Looks like Wyatt hasn't been groomed for the task either. If Liam is out of commission for whatever reason, Will is still too young, and Katie works for FC, who did Bill plan to have take care of things in his untimely absence?

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From an outside universe/Doylist perspective, I don't like it at all if (as others mentioned) they're just throwing Justin in as the bad guy to make Thomas or Liam look good.  

That said.  Come on, Justin.  You willingly did horrible things to people on behalf of a horrible, selfish man...and you fully expected to be rewarded by that type of guy? All those flashbacks did was further convince me that they're both assholes.  

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Justin must not be such a great attorney if he couldn’t negotiate better employment contracts for himself. 
If Thomas and Ridge have iPhones, Ridge can use the “Find My...” app to locate Thomas’ iPhone. Just saying...

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9 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

I thought Wyatt was stupid but not that stupid.

Wyatt left Sally for Flo, he's arguably even more stupid than Liam. 🤡

7 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Will is still too young

Which reminds me, Will was born on the show about 8 years ago, isn't it time for him to be SORASed by now? This could've made for one helluva entry story for newly SORASed Will as Bell scrambled to find two new interns for him to waffle behind. Or maybe he'd waffle for one as he falls for Steffy--why break tradition of Spencer men falling into her brass cooter? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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 Wyatt has now proven to be the dimmest bulb. Dude, when you were visiting your dad, and Justin was there, your dad specifically said that he wanted you to handle SP's business, and Justin to handle his and Liam's defense. Not the other way around, which is the exact thing you just agreed to with Justin. So, you will now take care of your family and Justin will run SP? How's that gonna work exactly? What lawyering experience do you have? Or by take care, are we just talking about you being there for them? Yeah, that will do a lot to help them out. 

And, I mean, Flo called, and of course one must drop everything............

Justin you might think this is genius, but not so much. Your mind is allowing you to wander down roads with no ends, or intersections, or stop signs. Even if dimwit Wyatt agreed to let you run things, that is all you are doing; running them in the Spencer men's absence. You are not officially in charge, or the boss, or the main man; you are still just an employee who is stepping in during the head honcho's absence. And do you really think Bill would sign the company over to you? Even if Liam does go to prison for the rest of his life, there is still Wyatt, although given his poor judgement, Bill may side eye that particular option. But there is also Will, and Bill and Katie constantly talk about how he is a mini-Bill. And we can't forget that Karen owns a stake in SP too. So I am a bit confused what you think will or can happen. Unless you commit some type of forgery on documentation signing the company over to you, I see you continuing in your current role as Bill's side piece. 

And then there is the whole Thomas thing. Am I to believe that no one ever enters the SP's  basement? I see tools and equipment in there; and it looks like where the electrical stuff is handled, so I can't believe that it is never used or entered. And why would there be a security lock on a storage room? And on the inside? You also must know that Ridge will enlist the help of the National Guard, the entire LA police force, the Guardian Angels, the Hell's Angels, and any other faction that can help look for Thomas. I mean, it has only been a few hours and Ridge is already getting worried. What I suspect is Ridge will go to Charlie and ask him to look at the camera footage to see if and when Thomas left FC's, and they will see Justin leaving with a large parcel that he did not enter with. Nope, I just don't see this whole thing working out for Justin. 

Oh God Quinn really? Renew your vows. That is so friggin over the top, and positively cringe worthy. Just like Shauna was saying; it is pretty evident that you and Carter share more than you are admitting to. Don't you realize what you are doing will hurt Eric more than just coming clean now? All this play acting, and dramatics, and effusion are giving Eric pause; as they should. 

Going back a few days; Paris, when two people work together it is not unusual to find them alone together. So, you need to pony up and stop the fucking nonsense mmmkay? Cause you are starting to pluck all my last nerves with your condensation, and your accusations, and your snarky comments. You are a twenty something, and you are there by virtue of Carter, who by the way owes you, nor your whack sister nothing. If he hurt her, well that is just tough darts, because she hurt him too. Real bad. I am further sick of these people kowtowing to you, like you are someone of importance, because you are not. You are an angry sister, who should not care one iota about her sister's life, but being a do gooder and truth sayer, you feel you must run your mouth. Guuurrrl. sit down and crack open a nice tall can of STFU, to go with a warm slice of Butt Out pie. 

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Which reminds me, Will was born on the show about 8 years ago, isn't it time for him to be SORASed by now?

Yes. TPTB seem to like the little actor who plays Will (like the boy who plays Douglas) and I bet they've been trying to keep him until he's a preteen. If they do SORAS him they're going to need to have some other kids his age to give him a storyline beyond trying to run SP. That's where things get iffy, especially now when kids below a certain age might not be able to get vaccinated currently.

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Guuurrrl. sit down and crack open a nice tall can of STFU, to go with a warm slice of Butt Out pie.  

Cosign. Paris is not a rootable character to me, even if she is on the side of morality in this case. I wonder how much she really knows about Quinn because getting on Quinn's bad side is a dumb move.

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On 6/29/2021 at 5:52 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

If they do SORAS him they're going to need to have some other kids his age to give him a storyline beyond trying to run SP. That's where things get iffy, especially now when kids below a certain age might not be able to get vaccinated currently.

Even apart from COVID, Brad Bell seems to have a near allergic reaction to teen scenes. The Rick/Amber/Deacon/Bridget/CJ group has been the only young adult group that was worth it's salt in the show's entire history. Volumes have been written on the wasted potential of Steffy and Hope, and TIIC didn't even try with Phoebe. The show's reliance on any two or three given pets bit them hard in the ass when Moss and Flannery left within months of one another and they'll be in the same boat once again if and when JMc or KKL decide to retire.

I know people over 30 hated those scenes in the 80s and 90s on Y&R and the other soaps, but those were critical in pulling new, younger viewers in as those stories didn't have decades of backstory one needed to know in order to follow along. And on Y&R, those 80s children's and young adults like Jack and Lauren and Christine are now the veteran characters teaching the younger folks lessons.

We could've had that  with Brooke and Ridge but these numbskulls often act less mature than their idiot children. :(

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Stuffy is either impersonating a stuff sausage or a snake that just just swallowed a small pig. 

Two for one today with Brooke and Paris both needing a shit load of shit the fuck up.  Brooke, Ridge, and Paris they are already married and renewing vows is just symbolic.  Brooke your bashing Quinn is been there done that. More and more tired and repeated dialog as not only usual but predictable.  I alway have to laugh when Brooke passes judgement on Quinn when she’s a lier, a cheat, and an manipulator extraordinaire.   

Hey Ridge, instead of trying to name the baby shouldn’t you be trying to get in touch with your son?  

Paris, your passing judgment on Carter when your sister tried to cheat while still engaged to him.  Paris keep taking in the office about Carter and Quinn than you won’t have to tell anyone directly.  Partially open door will take care of you that for you.  

 

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Please let Eric, when he finds out about Quarter, take down that St. Quinn painting, draw a mustache on it, then hand it to Quinn as he shoves her out the door of HER HOUSE.  🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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1 hour ago, LittleIggy said:

Please let Eric, when he finds out about Quarter, take down that St. Quinn painting, draw a mustache on it, then hand it to Quinn as he shoves her out the door of HER HOUSE.  🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

That portrait is an abomination. It could burn for all I care. The next portrait to be put up will be Brooke all dressed in red representing the Harlot that she is. 
 

Yes, Quinn would be out the door as would Carter but money isn’t everything and a great roll in the hay and it would be Eric who. The best thing, for Quinn, would be not having to deal with Brooke anymore.  Quinn and Carter would not be destitute and at worse they would die in bed, of starvation, with big smiles on their faces. 

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Is Finn that tall or is Steffy that short without her stiletto heels?

Only Brooke would show up at a vow renewal trash-talking the renewing bride to the renewing groom. She is relentless.

Huh, I liked Paris' outfit today. I would actually wear that myself. Maybe they'll tone down her look now that she won't have to compete with Zoe for attention.

Rena Sofer looked so beautiful today. AFAIC Quinn is wasted on Eric.

Gee, I don't think Ridge said "my grandson" enough times in this episode. 😒

Someone should have explained to the Paris actress how to pronounce "naïveté." (But according to Merriam-Webster, "naivety" is the common usage in Britain. Okay, Ms. Buckingham.)

SHUT UP, Paris! Let. It. Go. Or don't and tell Zoe the dirty truth about her fiance. Just stop harping on it every dang day because that changes nothing except perhaps turn Carter against you. 😒

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I wish that wardrobe would take that belt away from KKL and burn it. I liked her green dress today and she looked really good except that ridiculous belt ruined it. Brooke has a waistline. We get it. Anyway, the dress fit better than those hideous shirtwaist dresses and the color was flattering. KKL is a year or two younger than me, so she will turn 60 (or 61) this year. She has a fantastic figure for her age. She needs to just leave it at that.

I don't care if Paris spills the tea or not. I'm just tired of her smug condescending expressions and giving everybody the side-eye. I wish Quinn has subtly threatened to get Paris fired or something. That should shut her up.

Speaking of being naïve. What 40-something SINGLE man sits around celibate in L.A.? Especially an attractive COO of a major fashion house? It's bad enough when women like Brooke seem to have at least one toe stuck back in the '50s, but a 20-something? And Paris doesn't know Carter. Why does she just assume that he doesn't indulge in a ONS every now and them? Please.

It also bugged me when Paris whined about how "invested" (or whatever word she used) she was in Zarter. I would have replied, "Then get a life." Why isn't she tending to her own relationship with Zzzzende instead of butting into Zoe's love life?

I am waiting for either Sinn or Lope to utter, "I love you to the moon and back." I DARE the writers to add that to an upcoming script. They are almost there with the sappy dialogue. 

BTW, I saw a commercial for "Fantasy Island," and there was a still of KB. I am curious to watch it at least once to see how she does, but it really isn't the type of show I could watch on a regular basis. 

 

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Um, why is anyone listening to Paris? She has no power. Girl! Be gone. That said, I am curious who she tells about Quinn & Carter if she isn’t going to tell Zoe herself. How long will it before Shauna ends up in Eric’s bed? I know their is a girlfriend code but Shauna needs somewhere to live. 

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3 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

 

It also bugged me when Paris whined about how "invested" (or whatever word she used) she was in Zarter. I would have replied, "Then get a life." Why isn't she tending to her own relationship with Zzzzende instead of butting into Zoe's love life?

 

 

Same here.  If she'd thought about what she just said, she'd realize what a big problem that is right there.  She almost comes off better being concerned about Eric than with Zoe, but it still doesn't seem like she knows Eric nearly well enough for it to be her business as to actually tell him.  

Paris looked really good today though, and her skin is incredible. 

I'm a Brooke fan, and can acknowledge she's been an absolute harpy.  But I'm NGL, she's won me over with her Quinn hounding.  She's been absolutely right about Quinn all along, and whatever Brooke's done over all these years, Quinn's far worse.  

 

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29 minutes ago, JNavarro said:

Same here.  If she'd thought about what she just said, she'd realize what a big problem that is right there.  She almost comes off better being concerned about Eric than with Zoe, but it still doesn't seem like she knows Eric nearly well enough for it to be her business as to actually tell him.  

Paris looked really good today though, and her skin is incredible. 

I'm a Brooke fan, and can acknowledge she's been an absolute harpy.  But I'm NGL, she's won me over with her Quinn hounding.  She's been absolutely right about Quinn all along, and whatever Brooke's done over all these years, Quinn's far worse.  

 

Amen to that! I remember when it was implied that Quinn murdered that guy who owned the HFTF Diamond.

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Quinn will never learn; going after Brooke, messing in her life, is what nearly cost her Eric this last time. At yet, there she is again, challenging and bating Brooke. Yeah, I know, Brooke was just doing the same thing to Quinn, but I am good with that for several reasons. First, because at the end of the day, Brooke is absolutely correct about Quinn. Second, because there is a difference between expressing concern about the welfare of someone you love and care about, and sniping at someone for the shear need to snipe. Third, Brooke has the courage to lay voice to her concerns to Eric's face, while Quinn waits till Eric leaves to start her assault. Eric says he loves Quinn, but I wonder if Eric truly knows what love is anymore. I think he is just lonely and lost, and here is this beautiful, vibrant woman who wants to be with him. And Eric always forgives; just look at his history with Stephanie, so Quinn needn't think Eric forgiving her is unique in any way. She also needn't think that Eric's hurtful words to Brooke about not coming to the ceremony hold any import other than him wanting a drama free day. Quinn may be Eric's wife, but she will never have what Brooke and Eric share. She has never understood that Brooke and Eric share more than Brooke and Ridge ever have. They share a bond that has lasted more than thirty years; Brooke is his ex-wife, mother to two of his children, more importantly, they have always been each other's champion, each other's friend, each other's confidant, supporter and defender. So go on with your delusions Quinn; Brooke will always be in Eric's life and his heart.

I was such a big supporter of the Eric/Quinn pairing; it was new and exciting, but they have lost their luster. And it hasn't helped Quinn at all; she is still the same conniving, lying, manipulator she has always been. No, Eric just seems desperate now; desperate to hold on to a fantasy, and Quinn seems desperate to hold onto the shred of dignity being Mrs. Eric Forrester gives her. 

Your fucking house indeed. 

Paris is really naive, and not very sophisticated about sex. Jeeza peeza girl, grow up. People fuck each other for the fun of it all the time. There doesn't have to be any deep emotional bonds, or declarations of love between two horny people. And attraction doesn't have any rules; it can be unpredictable and unexplainable. You don't get to judge, or decide who Carter should be attracted to, or who he should want to fuck. 

So I must admit it; yesterday was the first day that Steffy and Finn did not annoy me. I can't quite put my finger on it, but they seemed far more real and believable for some reason. I am now wondering if something is going to go wrong with the baby or his delivery, and I shockingly find myself not wanting that to happen. I am baffled by these feelings; I have not been drinking, alcohol or Kool-Aide, nor have I partaken of any drugs or illegal substances. 

I don't think I am on board with Ridge saying anything bad about Quinn. He didn't find her all that distasteful when he was betraying his father and his fiance with her. 

I am surprised Ridge didn't ask Steffy if she had seen or heard from Thomas. 

I guess Paris will walk into the Forrester Manse right as Carter is asking if there is anyone who feels these two should not be joined in holy matrimony.........

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Finally Steffy gives birth and we no longer have to see her looking like a sausage in those body hugging mini dresses!  

Loved Paris’ jumpsuit and the color looked great on her.

 

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Finally Steffy gives birth and we no longer have to see her looking like a sausage in those body hugging mini dresses!  

I think she went into labor because the baby couldn't take the pressure any more.

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Loved Paris’ jumpsuit and the color looked great on her.

Yes! I keep checking Worn on TV to see how much it costs but for some reason they haven't posted it.

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Paris is really naive, and not very sophisticated about sex. Jeeza peeza girl, grow up. People fuck each other for the fun of it all the time. There doesn't have to be any deep emotional bonds, or declarations of love between two horny people. And attraction doesn't have any rules; it can be unpredictable and unexplainable. You don't get to judge, or decide who Carter should be attracted to, or who he should want to fuck. 

That conversation Paris had yesterday with Carter was kind of odd to me and I started wondering if she's a virgin. NTTAWWT but it could explain why she has such idealistic beliefs about sex that aren't based in a lot of reality. At least not in the reality of LA which is one of the top singles markets in the world.

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saw a commercial for "Fantasy Island," and there was a still of KB.

There's a recent one that has more than a still of her. Two things jumped out at me about it: 1) she's gotten rid of the horrible wig/weave she wore on B&B and is sporting a short, curly look; and b) the actor who played Xander on B&B is also on Fantasy Island. That was a bit of déjà vu to see the two of them interacting.

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10 hours ago, LittleIggy said:

Amen to that! I remember when it was implied that Quinn murdered that guy who owned the HFTF Diamond.

One could argue that Brooke shouldn't be able to say squat to Quinn when it comes to inappropriate relationships considering her own peccadillos (Deacon/Bill anyone) but she did interfere with Brooke's relationship with Ridge, not once, but twice (her own affair + Shauna debacle).

But that can be tossed aside because AFAIA, Brooke never committed rape (Liam), kidnapping (Liam), attempted murder (Deacon) and probable murder (Mr. Montemayor). So, while Brooke has definitely grated of late with respect to keeping her eyes on her own paper, she's not wrong about Quinn in the slightest. 

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3 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Quinn will never learn; going after Brooke, messing in her life, is what nearly cost her Eric this last time. At yet, there she is again, challenging and bating Brooke. Yeah, I know, Brooke was just doing the same thing to Quinn, but I am good with that for several reasons. First, because at the end of the day, Brooke is absolutely correct about Quinn. Second, because there is a difference between expressing concern about the welfare of someone you love and care about, and sniping at someone for the shear need to snipe. Third, Brooke has the courage to lay voice to her concerns to Eric's face, while Quinn waits till Eric leaves to start her assault. Eric says he loves Quinn, but I wonder if Eric truly knows what love is anymore. I think he is just lonely and lost, and here is this beautiful, vibrant woman who wants to be with him. And Eric always forgives; just look at his history with Stephanie, so Quinn needn't think Eric forgiving her is unique in any way. She also needn't think that Eric's hurtful words to Brooke about not coming to the ceremony hold any import other than him wanting a drama free day. Quinn may be Eric's wife, but she will never have what Brooke and Eric share. She has never understood that Brooke and Eric share more than Brooke and Ridge ever have. They share a bond that has lasted more than thirty years; Brooke is his ex-wife, mother to two of his children, more importantly, they have always been each other's champion, each other's friend, each other's confidant, supporter and defender. So go on with your delusions Quinn; Brooke will always be in Eric's life and his heart.

Yes!!! They share children and grandchildren and decades of history and love and mutual respect. Quinn can never touch that.

I was such a big supporter of the Eric/Quinn pairing; it was new and exciting, but they have lost their luster. And it hasn't helped Quinn at all; she is still the same conniving, lying, manipulator she has always been. No, Eric just seems desperate now; desperate to hold on to a fantasy, and Quinn seems desperate to hold onto the shred of dignity being Mrs. Eric Forrester gives her. 

I liked the idea of them, too, and certainly it was better than when they were toying with a Katie/Eric pairing, which "NO" to that.

Your fucking house indeed. 

Paris is really naive, and not very sophisticated about sex. Jeeza peeza girl, grow up. People fuck each other for the fun of it all the time. There doesn't have to be any deep emotional bonds, or declarations of love between two horny people. And attraction doesn't have any rules; it can be unpredictable and unexplainable. You don't get to judge, or decide who Carter should be attracted to, or who he should want to fuck. 

Too right. Although I do think there are feelings between them and not just the panging of their loins either. But they don't know what to do with those so better to scurry back to the safety of their respective partners.

So I must admit it; yesterday was the first day that Steffy and Finn did not annoy me. I can't quite put my finger on it, but they seemed far more real and believable for some reason. I am now wondering if something is going to go wrong with the baby or his delivery, and I shockingly find myself not wanting that to happen. I am baffled by these feelings; I have not been drinking, alcohol or Kool-Aide, nor have I partaken of any drugs or illegal substances. 

I'm not gaga for Sinn but yet, I like them. I guess what I like the most is that the ToD is (for now) put on the shelf and Steffy is allowed to be happy with someone not named Liam. Time will tell if that works out for her better than it did for Brooke (re Ridge).

I don't think I am on board with Ridge saying anything bad about Quinn. He didn't find her all that distasteful when he was betraying his father and his fiance with her. 

He can STFU here as he sure wasn't saying any of that when they were swapping spit and rolling around on the bed in Eric's guesthouse. As well as with his stupid baby names. That was painful.

I am surprised Ridge didn't ask Steffy if she had seen or heard from Thomas. The continuity fairy had the day off. Lot of that lately.

I guess Paris will walk into the Forrester Manse right as Carter is asking if there is anyone who feels these two should not be joined in holy matrimony.........

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Brooke is going to play the part of wedding interruptus. I hope that she makes Quinn and Carter spill the tea. That would be some kind of delicious karma.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

 

There's a recent one that has more than a still of her. Two things jumped out at me about it: 1) she's gotten rid of the horrible wig/weave she wore on B&B and is sporting a short, curly look; and b) the actor who played Xander on B&B is also on Fantasy Island. That was a bit of déjà vu to see the two of them interacting.

That short hair on her is also doing her no favours!  She simply isn’t facially attractive enough to carry it off.  I am pleased though to see those awful wigs gone.

Elena on Y&R opted for short hair too and that is also a yuck.  

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4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I think she went into labor because the baby couldn't take the pressure any more.

My stomach hurt just looking at her, and I'm not pregnant.  That dress was much too tight.

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Now I think I'm beginning to understand why Zoe didn't want Paris following her to LA.  Paris comes off as nosy and getting into other folks' business, and maybe Zoe wanted to keep her out of hers.

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2 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Elena on Y&R opted for short hair too and that is also a yuck.  

I hate that short haircut because her neck looks weird.  

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4 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

One could argue that Brooke shouldn't be able to say squat to Quinn when it comes to inappropriate relationships considering her own peccadillos (Deacon/Bill anyone) but she did interfere with Brooke's relationship with Ridge, not once, but twice (her own affair + Shauna debacle).

But that can be tossed aside because AFAIA, Brooke never committed rape (Liam), kidnapping (Liam), attempted murder (Deacon) and probable murder (Mr. Montemayor). So, while Brooke has definitely grated of late with respect to keeping her eyes on her own paper, she's not wrong about Quinn in the slightest. 

Exactly. Brooke’s tongue has found it’s way into $Bill’s mouth far too often to listen to any of her nonsense today. I mean, Brooke’s not wrong about Quinn. I just don’t want to hear it from her.

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8 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

was such a big supporter of the Eric/Quinn pairing; it was new and exciting, but they have lost their luster. And it hasn't helped Quinn at all; she is still the same conniving, lying, manipulator she has always been. No, Eric just seems desperate now; desperate to hold on to a fantasy, and Quinn seems desperate to hold onto the shred of dignity being Mrs. Eric Forrester gives her. 

I'll be honest and say I never found their happiness to have ever been earned. The whole thing was revealed right after Captive Cabin and Quinn skated on those charges and a few weeks later we find the two are schlepping each other with no build up or discussion. It just smacked of the writers not knowing what else to do with either and it's only by the chemistry of the two actors that they've had as much popularity as they've had.

Chemistry can only carry a couple for so far when the writing gives them less than nothing to work with or any motivation why Eric has put up with her shit all these years.

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I’m in the minority in preferring Quinn over Brooke but I just can’t stand her voice, her facial expressions, her giggling like a teenager, her hypocrisy, her vindictiveness, and she thinks that she’s a Queen where boundaries do not apply to her.  Brooke is a nothing that just married well many times over.  Brooke once again shows she’s what I hate about her. Brooke, Eric and Quinn are married it’s only a vow renewal. Do you expect Quinn to run downstairs, run out the door and never to be seen again?  Paris, your not the hall monitor of moral turpitude.  Tell or don’t tell but you have no business coming into Quinn’s bedroom and giving her a tongue lashing.  Of course Brooke is lurking at the bedroom door because that’s what Brooke does.  

 

I’m not at all surprised that Stuffy wants a home birth but a little surprised, as a doctor, would go along with it. If there are complications, of course there won’t be, but a hospital birth would be much better if there was.  Midwives are highly trained professionals but they are not doctors and they can’t perform an emergency cesarean. I don’t believe they can care for the baby, in emergency situations, after the baby is born.  Flynn is a doctor but be would have the necessary equipment at hand. 

 

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^^^to get into that would go well off topic, but suffice it to say for relatively healthy people, home births don't pose much more risk than a hospital one  and there are provisions made in the event of an emergency

(That, and midwives won't insist on C-sections out of their own convenience, as I've heard one person get push into because her doctor didn't want to miss his tee time 🙄)

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