B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[ByTor]

17 minutes ago, grisgris said:

She got around a lot of it by making sure the sleeves of that sweater were tugged around her hands, then placed her hands sort of over her face.

Which reminds me, I love that sweater!

[hypnotoad]

I mean Karla Mosley. And as far as that dumbfounded look? That is her default 'acting' choice for all her scenes. I mean sure it worked in the Carter scene because WTF was that supposed to be? But to me? The woman cannot act even a little bit. JMW was at least trying for something today.

The thing is we had some real soapy stuff going on today and we had to waste part of that 20 minutes on the suckage that is Maya/Carter and Rick/Nicole. Really show ... Really?!?

[mightysparrow]

I haven't been watching for ages but today's show was 'must see tv' for me.  I wanted to see Liam read Steffy for filth.  He hasn't gotten to it yet but the warm-up was quite enjoyable.  Of course. by 'enjoyable' I mean SC's part of it because JMW wasn't better, she was just LOUDER.

I also thought that Steffy was going to claim she was assaulted.  That 'please don't make me relive it' line was such bullshit; she hasn't STOPPED reliving it.

I truly love Justin; he really is Satan's spawn.  His job in life is to encourage $Bill to scale the heights of fuckery and Justin is VERY GOOD AT HIS JOB.

$Bill's martyr routine was sickening.  He fucks his son's wife and HE'S the wronged party.  He's the one we should feel sorry for.  The $Bill that I always hated is back, bigger and better than ever.  Brooke made him bearable as far as I was concerned but now it's like they were never together.

I burst out laughing when Liam thought it was Wyatt and Steffy's like, 'WHO?'  And when Steffy finally blurted out that it was $Bill, you could tell that Liam was shaken to the core of his soul.  SC was soooooo good.  I can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.  It's been a long time since I could say that about B&B.

 

PS:  I have no words for the Carter/Maya foolishness.  Rick is getting very puffy.

[ByaNose]

How long have Rick & Maya been married? Now, Carter is checking into see if it’s going okay? He was there for the transgender & baby storyline & is now checking for the status of her marriage. WTF?

[Joimiaroxeu]

Wow, I was really liking that new opening until they got to the picture of Steffy. Why would anyone do that to their face, especially if they're already pretty? I thought everyone else looked fabulous (well, except for Ridge but he's a lost case apparently).

Carter's wearing men's lip gloss, lol. And what kind of mental break has he had? It's not like he and Maya broke up last week. Or last year. Yeesh.

Ditto comments upthread, Carter's a handsome young man with a good job. He should be fighting the women off. Or the men, if their name happens to be Zende. Yeah, I said it. Come at me.

Dang, that look on Liam's face when Steffy finally coughed up Bill's name. It was a perfect gut-punched expression. Bravo, SC.

[mightysparrow]

I have to admit, it was a sad day for Black men on B&B.  Two very attractive, successful Black men are playing second-string to bullshit.  The only thing that can justify Justin's cheer-leading for $Bill is because he (Justin) is embezzling a fortune from Spencer Publications and he wants Bill to be distracted by constant drama.  I have no words for Carter.  The actor is weak and the character is pathetic.  He needs to spend some time with the actor who plays Papa Gallant; he's good at getting good performances out of weak actors.  Look what he did with Zende! 

Are we supposed to believe that everything that Bill and Brooke went through was nothing?  That Bill didn't really mean it, his heart always belonged to Hauxdiloks. HE THREW RIDGE OUT OF A FUCKING HELICOPTER!!!!

The only thing that would have improved the scene between Hauxdi and Liam would have been if Hope had been watching.  Maybe Wyatt and Katie too.  It would have been great to have the people she's hurt see Hauxdiloks get bitch-slapped by karma.

[TobinAlbers]

Wyatt would be sorely tempted to trip over himself defending Steffy from his seat even with Katie next to him. She'd be side eyeing him as he attacked Liam in defense of Steffy. 

Justin's actor was recently signed to a contract so he should be getting an actual story beyond Bill cheerleader. Shows these days don't plunk down money unless they plan to use you. Too bad it isn't him and Donna reuniting and having a late life baby. 

I know it's not cold in LA this time of year, but given how cold it is here in NYC, I'm down with Carter keeping his lips moisturized!

I will say Karla (Maya) was looking fetching today. The soft waves/curls, her make up and blouse all worked well together. But seriously why couldn't Sasha be the one to make Carter forget all about Maya. At the very least he could've left LA to be with her in Paris and just pop up as needed in LA to screw things up at Forrester or Skype in to officiate a wedding.

Edited January 3, 2018 by TobinAlbers

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Rick is super ambitious, experienced, and eccentric. Nicole is boring and bland. I can't fathom why he'd even be interested in a friendship with her. It would be as compatible as Pam and Bill. 

Or Rick and Phoebe, who at least had a passion for singing. Nicole has the personality of dry oatmeal.

Can we bring back Amber?

Edited January 3, 2018 by Anna Yolei

[Anna Yolei]

39 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

Justin's actor was recently signed to a contract so he should be getting an actual story beyond Bill cheerleader. Shows these days don't plunk down money unless they plan to use you. Too bad it isn't him and Donna reuniting and having a late life baby.

Maybe Justin can confess his love for $Bill goes beyond friendship. I mean, why else would he be so “dedicated” to all of his stupid shit?

But I’m glad for the actor getting a bigger contract. I hope he isn’t getting the Winters Wednesday treatment or going to be a further prop for the Still antics. Maybe he’ll be interacting with Thorne? 

[LittleIggy]

5 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Weirdly enough to me it didn’t sound like she said Bill. It was more Brill. I think she sort of jumped ahead of herself in her head with her line. Maybe, it was just me?! Bill didn’t sound clear but she said, “your Father” more clearly. That said, that was a pretty emotional & intense scene that I’ve seen in a while in daytime. SC kept badgering her and JMW couldn’t take it any more and just let it out. Well done!

Well done if humor was the intent.

Justin expressing his love to the Stallion would be more believable than Carter doing the same to Maya.

[Anna Yolei]

As for the Carter/Maya crap, just....fucking why? They weren’t even a real couple. Carter propose and Maya accepted on the rebound and then months later, she was suddenly back in love with Rick. As another poster said above, Maya has not come anywhere close to wavering her loyalty to Rick (which is a nice change of pace for a Soap pairing)...and to start waffling for Carter, who she was barely interested in the first time around? I’m done.

[Petunia13]

I think Carter had a throwaway line or brief scene (when Maya got with Rick when he dumped Caroline) where he said he'd never get over Maya and would always have a thing for her. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Carter had a throwaway line or brief scene (when Maya got with Rick when he dumped Caroline) where he said he'd never get over Maya and would always have a thing for her. 

As others have mentioned, they barely had a relationship. I think he's looking a tad delusional and presumptuous. If he were a woman people would be checking the kitchen for a bunny boiling in a stew pot. I guess this particularly weird kind of unrequited love is a soap staple but the scene with Carter seemed pulled out of thin air to me, like they wanted to put the actor in a storyline but couldn't figure out what to do with him. Good on him for getting some new work but ugh.

[TobinAlbers]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

As others have mentioned, they barely had a relationship. I think he's looking a tad delusional and presumptuous. If he were a woman people would be checking the kitchen for a bunny boiling in a stew pot.

I would be so down for Carter being a stalker ex who starts out all woobie and slowly loses his shit. I mean I would hate for him to be sacrificed at the alter of Maya and it'd hit on the cliche of 'angry, crazy black man goes nuts over a woman' but Carter getting his Idris Elba on vs Maya's Taraji would at least be entertaining.

And then he gets rehabbed like Pam and Quinn with the love of a good true woman. Would be hilarious if it was Nicole.

[ByTor]

10 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Can we bring back Amber?

No

[CountryGirl]

Show was good yesterday.

I'll dispense with the Justin tongue-bath of Bill first, then the tomfuckery that was Maya/Carter, saving Hauxdi's being outed as the father-in-law-fucking whore she is for last.

At SP, Justin tells his ride-or-die that of course he's going to keep quiet about Bill fucking Steffy. I really do have to wonder what the hell their history is that Bill is willing to do anything and everything for Bill. I'd love a storyline with that backstory, but I'm sure we'll never get it.

They both agree that Bill could have Steffy if he wanted to, but Bill is being oh-so-noble and sacrificing his wants and needs (or that of his dick) to be LOYAL to his son. Yes, you read that right. They actually said "LOYAL." 

Justin: "You're a good dad." 

I about choked on my drink, listening to that. That's some kind of BULL SHIT right there.

Bill: "I'll be the father Liam believes I am." For maybe right this very second because it's about to go down at the beach house.

Bill goes on to say how he won't blow this second chance with Liam or deprive his son of bonding with his baby. Interesting choice of words. I'm still not 100% convinced Bill didn't do something with those test results. The fact that he was even at the clinic at all gives me pause.

Justin: "Do you think your feelings for Steffy will fade?" Like the nasty rash they are, let's hope so.

Bill, all long-suffering as he stares out the window, says: "I'll lock them away like I did before Katie's health concerns."

And, I suppose, how he locked them away for all the years of Brill? I'm not buying the revisionist nonsense they're trying to force down my throat, but that's Swill for you.

They then toast to Liam and Steffy having a baby and that celebration is gonna be short-lived.

Over at FC, Rick and Maya are making out in the design office and way to keep it professional, folks.

There's a bit of a throwaway conversation about Rick's anger over learning about Ridge and Quinn's affair. 

Rick: "Christmas wasn't the right time to bring it up, but I'm going to let Ridge know how digusted I am." Save your breath, Rick. Ridge is not going to care. And since you cheated on Caroline with Maya (nevermind that she cheated with Ridge first, she thought they were reconciling), you shouldn't be throwing stones. It's about as ridiculous as cheater-cheater-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too-eater Y&R's Nickduhlas chastisting Scabby for kissing Yanni.

Rick heads for the studio and Nicole is STILL there. Um, shouldn't she get back to Paris and Zende before you know, his needs don't get met and he goes sniffing around for someone else to warm his bed?

They share a laugh over how much he, Nicole, and Maya are always checking on Lizzie in the daycare.

Rick, turning serious for a moment: "I don't say this enough...thank you for giving us a family."

Nicole thinks they should take a vacation and fly over to Paris to visit.

Mrs. Been Married Less Than a Year (they got married on Valentine's, remember?) gives the wise old sage advice about how they need to make time for each other, alluding to how much time she's been spending away from Zende lately and how important it is to spend that time with the one you love or whatever.

Back in the design office, Carter shows up and has Maya sign some documents.

They dish about the holidays with Maya picking up on Carter's sad sack, "I had a Blue Christmas without you" demeanor.

Maya: "What's going on with you, Carter?" She closes the door so he can share in private.

Carter apologizes for losing his shit when he found out she was transgender. I think his initial reaction was pretty understandable. The aftermath, not so much. Also, this apology is a good two years late by my math.

Carter: "I miss you. I miss us." 

Maya is clearly taken aback, but restrains herself from asking, "What the fuck, Carter?"

Carter inexplicably pushes her to remember what they were to each other and we get a series of flashbacks of the two of them, including their insta-engagement.

Carter: "If your situation changes, you're not out of options." Is he for fucking real with this? 

Maya clearly feels sympathy for him and still cares for him, but you can tell she is not happy with how this conversation is going and shuts it down: "Nothing is missing from my marriage and I will always care for you, but not like that, not anymore. I am very happy with Rick, so I won't mention this to him, but I need to make sure we're clear." She eyes him closely: "You are a wonderful man...and there is a woman out there for you, but it's not me."

She walks away and leaves him all dejected.

I just cannot with any of this but clearly TPTB have been itching to revisit a Ricole pairing and so here we are.

But I am seriously embarrassed for Carter. Yes, he's a bit thick in the head, but just LOOK at him!!! The thought that he spent the holidays alone without someone to snuggle under the mistletoe is truly laughable.

Finally, the scenes that made yesterday's episode MUST-SEE.

We cut to the beach house where Liam is standing over guilty-as-sin Hauxdi.

She stares up at him as if she can't read or something, trying for the wide-eyed innocent look but failing miserably.

His voice shaking, he asks his slattern of a wife a question no man should ever have to ask: "Why would your doctor order a paternity test?"

Watching her gulp and try to speak and gulp some more is truly snort-giggle worthy.

She stalls, whining about needing some water, and bolts for the house. You're going to need a lot more than that, bitch.

Liam's face is a mask of hurt and anger and he can't believe this is his life.

He charges after Hauxdi, the paper in hand, and of course, there's nary a glass of water in sight.

She won't make eye contact with him, which is a dead giveaway that something is arot in Malibu.

She then tries to lie that it was just one of a bunch of "routine" tests and Liam isn't buying any of this. 

Steffy shrieks: "You're the father! Why can't you just let this go?"

Does she ever HEAR herself? She's got her head so far up her own ass her eyes should be doo-doo brown by now.

A pissed-off Steffy keeps insisting that he "forget about it."

No way. No how. No ma'am.

And how DARE she act pissy here when she is 1000% in the wrong.

Liam is having NONE of this and demands, slowly and clearly, "Why did you order a paternity test?"

She continues to push him to let it go but THAT? Not happening.

She keeps insisting it doesn't matter. Of course it matters! Jesus! God!

You can see Liam start to do the math in his head and he zeroes in a key line of questioning: "Was it that night?"

Oh yes, indeedy, it was.

He recalls the night she ran off after finding out he kissed Sally and snarls as he reminds her that it was ONE KISS and he told her RIGHT AWAY.

Liam: "You went to the guest house that night, remember? You didn't just 'drive around' all night. You lied to me."

Steffy, continuing to stall, talks about how she did drive around (oh well, for part of the night) and then ended up at the guest house. 

Liam wants some details and he wants them NOW. 

Steffy shrieks: "Don't make me RELIVE it!" 

Those words...right there...confirm his worst fears and you can see it on his face.

Liam is sickened as he recalls how they renewed their wedding vows that night, not knowing she had already broken the vows hours before and would continue to break as she covered up her dirty little deeds.

Liam: "Please...make me understand...tell me what you did."

Liam wants to know everything, now, and when she tries to deflect again, he insists he has a right to know, which he absolutely does....starting with who it was.

He asks if she met him there (at the guesthouse) and she tells him she just wanted to be alone, but he showed up.

Liam, his mind racing, and obviously in the dark about Katie, asks: "Wyatt?" It's not a terrible leap for him here and you have to wonder does he remember finding Steffy in bed with Wyatt in her bra and panties the night he came back from seeing Ivy back to Aussieland?

Steffy: "No...not your brother."

And I think with those words, Liam has the thought that it's Bill, even though he clearly doesn't want to believe, even as he pushes the most horrible thought he's ever thought out of his mind. I mean, who else would have shown up? But he wants to hear every last detail, as painful as it will be to hear.

Steffy sits down on the couch, all teary-eyed, whining: "I don't even know how to explain what happened....I just lost my mind." Over a KISS? Oh please. You were just itching for an excuse to fuck Bill, you bitch...and you rode him like he was your only item on your to-do list.

Liam just stares at her, disgusted. As he should be.

Liam: "You still haven't said who."

Steffy argues: "It doesn't matter-"

Liam quickly corrects her: "You don't decide that." Tell her, Liam.

She interrupts, arguing again that "it doesn't matter." Of course it fucking matters!

Liam counters: "Do I know him?" Which is probably reason #1 why it matters.

Steffy shouts: "It doesn't matter...he was like a sounding board, like a friendly ear." 

How Liam didn't throw up after hearing those accolades to her affair partner I don't know. He looks like he's on the verge of puking, the pain and disgust so palpable on his face.

SC is just bringing it...

Steffy: "Liam, I should have told you and I tried to tell you and then Carter showed up to renew our vows...and I started to believe that this fresh start you were pushing for was possible."

I cannot believe this bitch has the audacity to whine that she tried to tell him but Carter showed up and blah blah blah excuses. She had a million opportunities to come clean, including that night, and while things couldn't get much worse, confessing immediately would have been so much better than him finding out via the paper she lazily tossed into her purse.

Because while the act, itself, was so terrible, the lies upon lies upon lies made it infinitely worse. I think often when there's an affair, it's the lies that kill the marriage even more than the actual cheating itself. And how many has Hauxdi told since that night? Not to mention the emotional affair they were having weeks before that night.

Liam just stands there, listening to the sounds of his wife's lies and his heart shattering...this is death by a thousand tiny paper cuts.

Steffy: "But I couldn't forget." I would think not. "I kept hating myself...until today. I finally, FINALLY had a moment of peace."Oh you poor little thing...how you must have suffered. "Knowing that I was having your baby, I knew that everything was going to be okay and that we were going to have a life that we dreamed of."

Liam, showing he doesn't give a shit about any of her shit, asks again with gritted teeth: "Who...was..it?"

She just starts shaking her head, duck lips on full display.

Liam: "I need to know."

Steffy: "No, you don't - no, you don't!

She tries to bargaining, saying she'll be the best wife, the best mother to their child, that he'll never have to question her devotion to him or their marriage.

What kind of crazy pills is she taking to think he's not going to question her about everything, ever?

Liam is furious when he hears her say this and shouts: "What kind of marriage is THAT? One where I am always WONDERING who it is that slept with my wife?"

Nail her ass to the wall, Liam. Fucking cruxify her!

Steffy visibly cringes, putting her hands to her head as if to ward him off. You made your your pen, sow, time to wallow in it.

Liam: "Steffy...TELL ME!"

She shakes her head, whispering: "I can't."

Look at her, protecting her LOVAH. Sickening!

Liam: "YES, YOU CAN!"

He shouts at her to tell him, she has to, while she keeps insisting she can't.

Liam: "Tell me! Tell me RIGHT NOW!"

Steffy sputters: "It was Bill!" Her shrieking is getting on my last nerve and goodness she is god-awful.

Liam gasps...whatever words he was about to say dying on his lips as her words make impact like a bullet to the brain. Suspicions are one thing but now he knows for certain and a truth once learned cannot be unlearned. You simply cannot unring the bell.

All the air has left the room, his lungs, as the walls start to close in.

Steffy, sobbing but nary a tear in sight as usual, "It was your father."

Her betrayal was bad enough, but a double betrayal? 

Unimaginably painful.

Liam almost stumbles as the words sink in, his world completely turned upside down. Everything he thought he knew about the people he loved and trusted, about his very self, evaporated.

He stares at her, shaking, as she continues to cringe under his gaze.

I hope when he gets his bearings, he kicks this lying cheating whore wife of his to the curb. Once and for all. Because she is literally the worst thing to have ever happened to him and his father is a close second. I hope he cuts Bill out of his life for good because I see ZERO way for this to be reconciled. And I hope he sues for sole custody and wins. His unborn child deserves better than to be raised by Hauxdi. 

SC...you just got your Emmy reel and you deserve the win.

[nkotb]

Bravo, @CountryGirl! Your best recap ever.

For sure, yesterday was SC's Emmy reel. Although, the $Bill confrontation might be just as intense, plus, he'll be playing against a partner who can, you know, act. 

[CountryGirl]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

No

[Joimiaroxeu]

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It's about as ridiculous as cheater-cheater-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too-eater Y&R's Nickduhlas chastisting Scabby for kissing Yanni.

But I am seriously embarrassed for Carter. Yes, he's a bit thick in the head, but just LOOK at him!!! The thought that he spent the holidays alone without someone to snuggle under the mistletoe is truly laughable.

Does she ever HEAR herself? She's got her head so far up her own ass her eyes should be doo-doo
brown by now.

You were just itching for an excuse to fuck Bill, you bitch...and you rode him like he was your only item on your to-do list.

SC...you just got your Emmy reel and you deserve the win.

I see no lies. It's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

CountryGirl,

[grisgris]

Standing ovation, CountryGirl!  THANK YOU! And yes, SC, definitely deserve an Emmy nod for his performance. Like others have lamented, the scenes could have gone to even a higher level, had he been playing off a more skilled actress.

Poor Carter ... always the clergy ... never the groom.

I don't know. Given the spouse/sibling-go-round these folks like to play, maybe Cartie?  I'm not sold on Thortie, but Brooke really doesn't deserve him, as she so pointedly blew him off for Sludge. But the GD obviously hasn't been tarnished yet, so let the battle continue.

Can't wait for today's episode.

[RuntheTable]

So, I watched that a bunch of times, because YEAH! That was the shit.

I guess we should all get our nominations for Father of the Year in, because Bill is willing to sacrifice his happiness for his son’s. No matter he has already shagged said son’s wife; what matters is Bill won’t act upon his newly rediscovered feelings for his whoring DIL. This is exactly how I felt as I watched Brooke whine to Stephanie and Massimo and Eric and Ridge, about how sorry she was for fucking Deacon and getting pregnant by him. But they all had to understand that she and Deacon were in love. All I wanted to do was tilt her pretty little head back and run a sword down her betraying throat. As bad, and as heartbreaking as that was, it doesn’t even compare to this. We all knew Deacon was a snake and was only using Bridget, but Liam and Steffy are supposed to be the “IT” couple. Our new destiny couple, that everyone knew would end up together. And then you have Bill, and all the horrible things he has done to Liam over the years. I don’t give a shit about the house and the cars and the money and the lifestyle, because Bill uses those things to emotionally blackmail his son whenever Liam gets out of Bill’s line. Bill can go buy someone else’s love and loyalty…..OH! Wait!......he already has that person in his fuck yes man Justin.

Steffy “Turns out the test wasn’t even necessary, I didn’t even need it”

Liam “Turns out?

Steffy “Can we just forget about this please?”

Dying…..

Steffy “I asked the doctor for a complete checkup. Liam, I’m having your baby, it’s our child, why can’t we just leave it at that?

Liam “Wh…leave it..forget that you didn’t know who the father was?”

Dead…….

Steffy “What were you doing in my purse anyway?”

Liam “Are you kidding me? Your phone went off, I heard it and I was going to bring it to you. And I found this (wildly waving the paper around), it was sticking right our Steffy”

Buried…..

Steffy “We renewed our vows, you wanted to start fresh. We wanted to forget about the past.”

Eviscerated……

O.M.G. I was completely bowled over with these scenes. How ironic is it that Liam finding out about his trampy wife and confronting her was the first and only time I have ever seen them as a couple? I felt Liam’s pain and confusion like a slap to my own face. I have no doubt SC was drawing from his own life in order to bring that type of emotion and emoting out. I didn’t think I would, but I felt so bad for him. Liam has been on the straight and narrow for a while now, even with the temptation of Sally. He thought he and Steffy were endgame, but alas, Steffy and Bill’s dick had other ideas.

So, will Liam turn to Sally for comfort? Or is this the reason Hope is set to return? I would much prefer Hope to have moved on, and Liam start fresh with Sally after a reasonable amount of down time; like, more than a day or a week.

Maybe Maya will now understand how Caroline felt when Maya decided she wanted Rick back, and inserted herself squarely in the middle of Caroline and Rick’s marriage. And really Carter? Or maybe I should save my angst for Show? Because that was just too stoooopid for words, and made Carter look desperate and pathetic and needy. Now, being a compassionate and loving person, I would be more than willing to “comfort” and “support” Carter, much like Steffy was willing to do for $Bill. But it would only be shallow and self serving on my part because Lawrence is just all kinds of HOTT! Maybe Hope is returning for Carter? And of course we still have an available Justin. Just sayin.

I just watched today’s preview, and um……..JUST FUCKING NO! I won’t spoil it, but unless what I saw was taken out of context, or parts were snipped out for this preview, I don’t think many of my fellow B&Ber’s are gonna be taking a cotton to it either.

It is freezing here, so I will have my car warming up fifteen minutes before I leave, and will be burning rubber and laying skid marks in my rush to get home and watch today's show. If they switch gears and give us some Bridge nonsense or Sheila or anything other than Liam/Steffy/Bill; Imma keep on driving like a Mad Hatter, straight on to LA to have a little "talk" with the writers. 

[MulletorHater]

2 hours ago, nkotb said:

Bravo, @CountryGirl! Your best recap ever.

For sure, yesterday was SC's Emmy reel. Although, the $Bill confrontation might be just as intense, plus, he'll be playing against a partner who can, you know, act. 

Yes, Lawd!  Thank you, CountryGirl!  As usual, your review recaps what happens while weeding through the bullshit.

I'm not here for this shit, but I have to admit that SC was all kinds of awesome.  I sincerely hope that Liam remembers all the times he heaped praise on his duplicitous ho-bag wife and his bastard of a father, whose dick is like a weather vane.  Liam needs to cancel both of those bitches like an over-the-limit credit card and keep it moving.  This storyline is proof positive that Stuffy diminishes every man who has the misfortune of sleeping with her.  And, I still don't get the attraction cuz bitch just ain't all that.

For me, it wasn't even just the fact that those two pigs turned Eric's guest house into a trough.  It's also the fact that FOR MONTHS, that ugly-ass troll with the bad wigs sat right there and ALLOWED her Satan-in-law to trash Liam.  She sat right there and ALLOWED the fuck buddy she's been lusting after to call her huzzzzbend a "little boy," imply that he wasn't a real man, and tacitly agreed that she was somehow being "mistreated."  Liam needs to remember all the times that troll defended Bill to him, and twisted that dagger in his back every time Bill belittled, degraded and mocked everything that was important to him.  Liam should hopefully remember Bill's vow that he was going to decimate him--decimate him in a way that he wouldn't EVAH recover.  Well, mission accomplished, 50-Cent Bill!   Don't sit here and front like you're having regrets, feel guilt and that you're making some sacrifice.  Sell that shit to Swill shippers who see the love story they want to see.  This viewer is NOT buying it, bruh! 

Liam should definitely remember that horrific Thanksgiving dinner where he and his so-called father lavishly praised that thing, while she sat there at the head of the table (WHY?!) and preened in her inappropriate dress and troweled on makeup.  I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how it was possible to "bring the Spencer family together," with one's legs open.  How does that even compute, much less work exactly?

Stuffy is just like her mother--full of excuses, full of shit, blubbering how it is always somebody else's fault, and claiming that she should be forgiven for the unthinkable while sitting in judgment of everyone she considers to be beneath her.  It's like the Darlagate scandal all over again.  Like Taylor who "wanted to tell the truth," her daughter continues the family tradition of "wanting to say something, but..."  Never mind that she had numerous opportunities to open up her mouth.  Oh, that's right.  It was more important to constantly be in Bill's orbit, when a normal person who was truly ashamed, embarrassed and horrified would have avoided him at all costs.  Mind you, this is the same child-woman who trashed Liam after he confessed to kissing Sally while they were covered in pounds of rubble thanks to her would-be lover's greed.  Stuffy can't even claim that this is "out of character" for her because it simply isn't.  But, not to worry, I'm sure that the canonization of the Patron Saint of Hot-in-the-Assery will continue, as all and sundry will try to convince her that none of this is her fault and then ride Liam's ass for being so unforgiving.

And, writers, please do me a motherfucking favor.  Please STOP trying to repackage shit just to make Swill believable and palatable.  Despite your attempts to paint this trifling mess as some kind of "love story" because Swill "deserved their turn," that's a bunch of bullshit.  I know it; you know it; and the American and international viewers who followed Brill--and even Batie--know it.  No amount of hallucinogens will ever--EVAH!--make me forget Stuffy's initial reaction upon waking up next to Bill in bed. 

Thank you--an aggrieved Day One viewer

[LittleIggy]

Steffy can’t remember actually f*cking Bill? My ass she can’t! 

Does Justin wash his mouth out with soap after the ? he spews to Bill?

Edited January 3, 2018 by LittleIggy

[Carlylefan]

Congratulations, Scott Clifton.  You earned your acting chops today.

[CountryGirl]

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

So, I watched that a bunch of times, because YEAH! That was the shit.

As is your post...and that of @MulletorHater...

[mightysparrow]

I want to join the choir in singing praise for @CountryGirl!  That recap was amazing!  I can't wait for this episode's!!!!

[SweePea59]

I think JMW's biggest acting problem is her dead eyes. Her lines are a tad more believable when her eyes are closed. That being said I enjoyed the fuck outta today's episode. SC was fantastic. I believed him. I was cheering him on. The script, his acting - beautiful. I've never said this before and probably won't say it again but today I luv Liam.

And oh, boy, when Liam gets to $Bill's office... SC & DD... I cannot wait!

Whew, I'm still on a high from today's performance.

[nkotb]

I should preface this with "I intensely hate the words 'shut up'". Having said that, when Liam snarled at Steffy "SHUT UP!", I swear, icicles were dangling from her (previously) frozen face. It was just such an un-Liam-like slice. SC was really, really good again today.

Of course, he had to at least offer Steffy an out, asking if $Bill raped her (my word, not his). For a second, I thought Steffy was going to let $Bill take the fall & say that she wasn't in her right mind, possibly implying that she didn't consent, so that was a minor relief that she didn't. I am salivating waiting for tomorrow, when Liam & $Bill go face-to-face. As good as SC is, & he's most definitely stepped up his game this week (he's actually had material to work with, though), having a great acting partner, like DD, will be legendary. 

I'm starting to wonder if the baby is actually going to be Liam's. At this point, that's where the long-term drama is, because, I don't see a Steam reunion anytime soon, if ever. A Still baby wouldn't bring about that kind of drama between the 3 of them, if Liam isn't around.

[thewhiteowl]

Today's show was almost satisfying enough for me to reach for a smoke. SC was so good.  If that's not emmy worthy then it damn well should be. 

[Petunia13]

@CountryGirl after she accepts the Academy Award for Best Bold & Beautiful recaps from Clarence. 

[Gam2]

SC was on fire today! I loved watching him set Slutty on blast! I cannot remember when I’ve enjoyed B&B as much as I have these past few days after suffering through the months of everyone praising Slutty to the heavens as she told Liam 4,000 times that he and his dad were fambly and they just had to reconcile. I can’t wait for Liam to beat the shit out of his “father” and then tell all of the Forresters about their precious Slutty and what she’s done!! WooHoo!!

[CountryGirl]

Just a tease for tomorrow's recap.

A bit of dialogue from Liam: "I hate him (re Bill) and I hate you." Embrace the hate, Liam!

And LMFAO at this:

[Petunia13]

"Shake it off shake it off oh oh" 

[Waldo13]

And the rose color glasses almost came back on for Liam gave Stuffy an out on her infidelity.  Am I surprised that Stuffy didn't take the out?  Not really because she wasn't sure that Bill would corroborate the story and that Bill wasn't using her to get back at Liam.  As for Bill, I'm pretty sure he wanted to screw Stuffy's cooter than Liam's ass.  

Bravo SC, bravo. The last two days has been a fantastic showcase for your acting chops.  

[SimplePleasures]

Am I bad for wanting Liam to kick Stuffy in the head when she dropped to her knees?  Bitch, get your greasy $Bill dickbeaters off of me.

Thanks, I didn't think so either.

[seasons]

Been watching soaps for over 40 years.

Never have I seen acting like I have from SC these last two days.

I almost hesitate to call it acting - where he is pulling that range of emotions from - incredible. Emmy must follow.

When he paused to ask her if his values made him seem weak to her like they do to Bill... heart stopping.

Now he gets to take on Bill. That will be insane.

I see the Daytime Emmys are on April 29 2018.

Wonder if it is too late for SC for this year?

[RuntheTable]

I just had to come on and say FUCKING WOW! Words are escaping me right now, but my fingers were burning to share my glorious, unadulterated joy of watching that incredible episode. 

So much to comment on, but I am full right now folks, just so full of shock and awe that I am unable to parse it out. 

However, three things stand out very clearly; Liam, jumping up next to Steffy, tilting his head a little to the right, looking like a very angry wolf, and lowly growling out "Don't you understand? I'm afraid I might kill him.", "I hate him, and I hate you.", and "Shut up!" The three best lines Liam has ever been given. 

Peed my fucking pants. 

Edited January 4, 2018 by RuntheTable

[Joimiaroxeu]

How would Steffy know whether Bill targeted her to get back at Liam? If Bill was smart, and those were his true motives, he wouldn't have let on to her. He would've sat back and kept his mouth shut until he could rub Liam's face in it.

So would Liam have been relieved if Bill had raped Steffy? His simply getting cheated on is worse in his mind? Ugh, it's always all about him. But I guess he did have right to climb up her ass given her long run of selfish, two-faced behavior.

Man, B&B has come out the 2018 gate like a bull hopped up on a dumpster bin of coke. Guess I picked the right time to start watching again.

[grisgris]

DAY-yum! Day-YUM! DAMN! 

I had to watch most of today's show at least twice and I see that CBS has kindly posted a recap of all of today's Steam scenes on YT.

Liam! Holy crap, boy! You go! He read that dirty decaying rag for filth like there was no tomorrow.

Trying to justify sleeping with Bill because Liam kissed Sally? Hell no! "That's ridiculous!"

Dear God, Steffy can't remember fucking Bill? That's all she's had on her mind for weeks now. It was an out-of-body experience? I would definitely say so.

YES! YES! YES! to "I hate you" and "Shut up!" It was about time somebody said that last phrase to that slattern. I'd love to see Sally, Hope, Ivy, Brooke, Katie, Quinn ... get in line ladies.

To be honest, I really wish that Liam had slapped the taste out of her mouth. The only reason why I was glad he didn't was because she's pregnant. Otherwise, go for it!

Yes siree, Bob ... SC deserves an Emmy for that performance. But again ... had it been any other actress ... I probably would have been in tears. JMW is so terrible. At the very end, when she was trying to sputter out sobs and trying to talk, she sounded like a bleating goat. And, yeah ... her face was bone dry.

I can't wait for the confrontation tomorrow between Liam and Bill. Get the Kleenex and popcorn ready!

[hypnotoad]

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SC deserves an Emmy for that performance. But again ... had it been any other actress ... I probably would have been in tears. JMW is so terrible. At the very end, when she was trying to sputter out sobs and trying to talk, she sounded like a bleating goat.

The scenes were good because of SC and SC alone. They would have been outstanding if JMW could have kept up even a little bit. Thankfully DD can keep up and he and SC have terrific father/son chemistry. Those scenes will be awesome.

This show kills me. It is capable of such good soapy drama and in a week or so, it will be deadly dull and horrible again. I've never watched a show that is so extreme with it's ups and downs.

[TobinAlbers]

1 hour ago, seasons said:

Wonder if it is too late for SC for this year?

It might be. KKL was tweeting over the holidays that she was selecting her episodes for submission. But if they can submit episodes through the end of January then he's good. 

If not he's got his trapped in the rubble with Sally episodes to submit.

I already see how the baby paternity is gonna be switched: the doctor made sure to confirm that the results showed Liam as the dad because 'it was in the best interest of her patient'. Steffy was freaked and stressed and the doctor took it upon herself to lift that burden by giving her what she wanted- Liam as daddy. But obviously due to all this stress, Steffy's pregnancy will become affected to the point she's hospitalized. Steffy will admit to the doctor that Liam knows about the paternity test and has left her and wants nothing to do with her or this baby. The doctor will ask if Steffy feels the same way and/or say that Steffy needs to stop stressing and think of the baby but Steffy says she can't and the doctor will either admit she gave her the results she said she wanted and Bill is actually the baby's father or say there was a 'mistake' in the results and want to run more tests and presto chango Bill is the daddy and Steffy's Liam stress now disappears. Medical ethics be damned, I think this doctor nudged things for Steffy because she thought it was best for her patient and she'll nudge them again. 

In the end, the baby, if it survives will be Liam's which they will find out when it has a medical issue and neither Bill nor Will is a match but Liam is but by then Still is happy and married and Liam is with Sally or Hope.

Ya'll this storyline is gonna play for yeeeears.

[Petunia13]

I think Karla is a good actress. I think she does what she can with material, also she's so so completely the opposite of her character in rl that probably influences my opinion of her talent, if that makes sense. 

I haven't always been the biggest Maya fan she was on some bullshit for a while lol. But I think the portrayer tries hard and is very professional and extremely sweet. 

[slayer2]

15 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

It might be. KKL was tweeting over the holidays that she was selecting her episodes for submission. But if they can submit episodes through the end of January then he's good. 

If not he's got his trapped in the rubble with Sally episodes to submit.

I already see how the baby paternity is gonna be switched: the doctor made sure to confirm that the results showed Liam as the dad because 'it was in the best interest of her patient'. Steffy was freaked and stressed and the doctor took it upon herself to lift that burden by giving her what she wanted- Liam as daddy. But obviously due to all this stress, Steffy's pregnancy will become affected to the point she's hospitalized. Steffy will admit to the doctor that Liam knows about the paternity test and has left her and wants nothing to do with her or this baby. The doctor will ask if Steffy feels the same way and/or say that Steffy needs to stop stressing and think of the baby but Steffy says she can't and the doctor will either admit she gave her the results she said she wanted and Bill is actually the baby's father or say there was a 'mistake' in the results and want to run more tests and presto chango Bill is the daddy and Steffy's Liam stress now disappears. Medical ethics be damned, I think this doctor nudged things for Steffy because she thought it was best for her patient and she'll nudge them again. 

In the end, the baby, if it survives will be Liam's which they will find out when it has a medical issue and neither Bill nor Will is a match but Liam is but by then Still is happy and married and Liam is with Sally or Hope.

Ya'll this storyline is gonna play for yeeeears.

Do you reckon? I always figured Sami Brady was the only one clever enough to hack into the system and fuck up the paternity. Bill seems like he'd hire someone for that. I can seem glaring at the computer, throwing his hands up at it and texting Justin.

[TobinAlbers]

5 minutes ago, slayer2 said:

Do you reckon? I always figured Sami Brady was the only one clever enough to hack into the system and fuck up the paternity. Bill seems like he'd hire someone for that. I can seem glaring at the computer, throwing his hands up at it and texting Justin.

Ha! Bill (or Justin) could totally do the same thing with the same reasoning as the doctor - that since Liam doesn't want Steffy and is stressing her out, just take him out to the equation as the baby daddy and make it Bill.

Ironically, Liam is the guy with computer hacker skills. In a twist maybe HE changes the results to make himself not the daddy just to wash his hands of Steffy! Strange I know but Y&R had Adam know he was Cristian's father but not claim him and allow Sage and Nick to raise him because it was what Sage wanted which if anyone knew Adam Newman would say was bull poop. Adam wouid never deny his son and he sure as hell would never just let his child be raised by his dumbass rival brother Nick Newman. And yet that's the story they wrote.

[Maelstrom]

Damn, SC was in fine form today! I’ve been a fan of his for years and always knew he had the goods acting-wise, and I’m thrilled that he’s finally getting the chance to show his stuff. He was excellent on OLTL during his addiction storyline, but his scenes today were just something else entirely. I might have to track them down on Youtube for a rewatch, since I deleted it off my DVR already. What a talent SC is! If only I hadn’t been laughing during most of the ep due to the, ahem, interesting choices of his scene partner. (I almost felt bad making fun of her total lack of acting ability today. But that didn’t stop me)

I can’t wait for his confrontation with DD - it will be exciting to see him bring this intensity with a scene partner that can actually act.

[ByaNose]

I honestly thought Liam was going to haul off and slap Steffy. I’m glad that he didn’t but when she was on her knees outside their church I thought he was going to say, “Stand up and stop graveling. It’s embarrassing”.  

[TessHarding2]

I just started to watch and I won't read comments till I'm done - but I'm peeing in my pants because of Liam!  I get the feeling she's going to call rape on Bill or just say it with her eyes.  The writers don't know how to write a complete story with any kind of depth, but this one has some good moments.

Well that was some high drama!  

Edited January 4, 2018 by TessHarding2

[Anna Yolei]

5 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

The scenes were good because of SC and SC alone. They would have been outstanding if JMW could have kept up even a little bit. Thankfully DD can keep up and he and SC have terrific father/son chemistry. Those scenes will be awesome.

This show kills me. It is capable of such good soapy drama and in a week or so, it will be deadly dull and horrible again. I've never watched a show that is so extreme with it's ups and downs.

Agreed about SC. This is the best acting I've seen out of him, and its been a banner year already. It'stoo bad he wasn't with any kind of competent actress. I guess we'll get the Brooke/Bridget caliber stuff when he rips into Bill.

[ByTor]

9 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

This show kills me. It is capable of such good soapy drama and in a week or so, it will be deadly dull and horrible again. I've never watched a show that is so extreme with it's ups and downs.

Unfortunately, this is SO spot on :(

[RuntheTable]

Not much; just a little snippet, but it seems Liam is going to toy with $Bill;

http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_bold_and_the_beautiful/video/758A9189-0666-3A51-D4A2-B5DF5F8C3C7A/the-bold-and-the-beautiful-next-on-b-b-1-4-2018-/

However, this indicates that things will get decidedly more heated between Liam and his dad:

http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_bold_and_the_beautiful/video/51B67DBE-BF38-F5DC-130F-A3E13A86271B/the-bold-and-the-beautiful-new-year-new-drama-preview-/