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"Sasha" might actually be the worst actress to ever grace this show of ours. She is absolutely beautiful, but she is no actress.

 

Oh, and Nicole, remember that little thing about Wyatt "dating" you to get info, getting that "secret" info, and then immediately telling his media mogul father, who then outed Maya as transgender to the whole world? How Nicole could stand there and say that he and Liam were "such nice guys" just blows my mind. Her preggo hormones have made her crazy.

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Will Steffy ever learn??????  WTH was she thinking going to see Ivy?

Steffy is a hypocrite. So, now it's all "Ivy, we're family. We need to get along." Really? Bitch, please. Where was all this family get along crap when you went flapping your gums at Wyatt. And she's an idiot. The moment she set foot on the property she opened herself up to all sorts of trouble. Dumbass.

 

And Ivy is a beautiful idiot. Home alone, and answering the door without asking who's on the other side? Not smart, especially since she has a restraining order out on someone, and a creeper creeping after her. And why the hell didn't she slam the door in Steffy's face is another dumbass move by the writers. Why not have Steffy and Ivy have the same conversation through the closed door, have Ivy go into a panic, look for her phone, and still fall down go Boom. Steffy figured Ivy's ignoring her, leaves, Wyatt comes home, finds Ivy out cold, gets her to the hospital, yadda yadda yadda, and go from there.

 

The writers suck.

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"Sasha" might actually be the worst actress to ever grace this show of ours. She is absolutely beautiful, but she is no actress.

 

 

Gosh, she's been on two whole days!  She's already a better actress than Nicole and Steffy.

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Gosh, she's been on two whole days!  She's already a better actress than Nicole and Steffy.

That's funny that you specifically mentioned the actress who plays Nicole's acting abilities. I agree that she's not good, either, but in their scene today, I was thinking 'wow, (the actress who plays) Nicole looks like Meryl Streep next to Cher-flipper'.

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So, let me guess, we're going to have poor misunderstood Steffy.  Everyone will think she shoved Ivy or something, and she'll be so persecuted.  And we'll be expected to root for her to overcome and get her life back.  Does cackling gleefully if she loses everything count? 

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That's funny that you specifically mentioned the actress who plays Nicole's acting abilities. I agree that she's not good, either, but in their scene today, I was thinking 'wow, (the actress who plays) Nicole looks like Meryl Streep next to Cher-flipper'.

 

I must confess I haven't seen today's episode.

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everyone!   I hope everyone is doing well this season!

I haven't seen the show in a few weeks so admittedly I'm a bit out of the loop w/what happened.  Still that doesn't stop me from agreeing with all of this:

 

Steffy is a hypocrite. So, now it's all "Ivy, we're family. We need to get along." Really? Bitch, please. Where was all this family get along crap when you went flapping your gums at Wyatt. And she's an idiot. The moment she set foot on the property she opened herself up to all sorts of trouble. Dumbass.

 

 

Geez  wtf happened to this show?    Last time I felt good watching this show,  Ridge/Caroline were getting their freak on with paint and Maya and Rick were being self absorbed asses (they still are)  but at least it was interesting back then.  Now we have to endure all this baby/pregnancy crap and boring Nicole and Zende. 

Then there's Steffy.   WTF is this annoying character on my screen?   I hate Steffy w/the intensity of a thousand suns.  I don't want to look at her or hear her.  
Bitch is always up in someone's business.  She has Lame, wtf does she care what Ivy does now or with whom?    I can't stand that damn drag bitch.   Grrrrr!!!!!

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Puffy is always irritating.  I have such a visceral reaction to her every time her puffy jacked face shows up on screen.

 

I find that Zende is also working my last nerve.  Every single time we see him, he has this "oh woe is me" disapproving look on his face.  I get it.  He hates the fact that Nicole is pregnant.  Then leave!  He could have just told her from the beginning, "I'm not OK with this, good for you for helping your sister, I wish you well".  He is a Forrester and there's probably 100 girls that would line up for a chance at him.  But he decided to stay with her, so if he's going to stay with her, then he just needs to STFU and stop talking about her pregnancy like it's the worst thing in the world.

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Puffy is always irritating.  I have such a visceral reaction to her every time her puffy jacked face shows up on screen.

 

I find that Zende is also working my last nerve.  Every single time we see him, he has this "oh woe is me" disapproving look on his face.  I get it.  He hates the fact that Nicole is pregnant.  Then leave!  He could have just told her from the beginning, "I'm not OK with this, good for you for helping your sister, I wish you well".  He is a Forrester and there's probably 100 girls that would line up for a chance at him.  But he decided to stay with her, so if he's going to stay with her, then he just needs to STFU and stop talking about her pregnancy like it's the worst thing in the world.

 

And it's not like they were in this long term relationship where he's already completely invested.  I feel like they still barely know each other.  There'd be no shame in deciding this is too much drama and peace-ing out here, Zende.  Move on! 

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Wow, Steffy is almost too stupid to be alive. Losing her job will be the least of her worries now.

 

Sasha seemed to perk up a bit when she heard about Nicole's surrogate pregnancy and why she was doing it. I'm now on the "Sasha is Maya and Nicole's Half-Sister" train and expect that when Nicole miscarries or whatever, Sasha will step up to offer her own part-Avant DNA and womb. Of course, that will be when everyone learns that Papa Avant had an outside kid with the neighbor lady and has managed to keep it quiet all these years.

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All of Sasha's hair flipping was making my neck hurt. Definitely on the she's the third Avant daughter train. 

 

Clearly Ivy should have gotten an armed guard to go with her restraining order. Seriously, Steffy, it's not like she was fired. She just couldn't work in the office. Way to prove the point that you overreact about everything. Also, I noted Liam repeating her nonsense about Ivy "attacking" her. Shut up both of you. 

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Julius is a likeable character, and I hope they don't ruin him.

No matter who's name it starts with, that sentence always leads to disappointment.

 

If I was ivy I would just flop every time Steffy got near me.

 

Long ago Quinn did say that Ivy was clumsy.

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Quite a day, lots of ... dissatisfaction ... I guess ...

 

-- Carter -- who knows squat ... or was he doing squats -- listens to Zende whine (for the 50th time) about Nicole focusing on her pregnancy and not him.

-- Steffy whines to Liam about the restraining order, and begs him to convince Wyatt to put pressure on Ivy to drop it.

-- Steffy's dim bulb has a bright idea.

-- Ivy whines to Wyatt about Steffy being out of control, justifying the restraining order.

-- Sasha is told Nicole is a surrogate for Maya, and it's a secret. Sasha smells dollar signs.

-- Julius makes threatening noises at Sasha, and she flips her hair at him.

-- Zende: "No Baby. No Maya ... Focus on me ... er ... us."

-- Wyatt and Liam whine about their womenfolk being on the outs again and debate stupidly.

-- Steffy shows up at beach house, breaking restraining order restrictions. Ivy forgets how to slam a door shut.

-- Vivienne returns from job interview. Julius continues to grouse and make unsubstantiated predictions about Sasha's return to Illinois.

-- Sasha grabs a couture gown to try on, and Zende gets an eyeful of knickers and the comely body wearing them 

-- Steffy makes demands about dropping the restraining order. Ivy tries to grab her phone, falls and bonks her over-cooked melon.

-- Steffy attempts to make Emergency! I broke Ivy again! facial expressions. Noises emanate from her mouth.


In that 5 second glance, Sasha and Zende had more chemistry than boring Zencole have had since day one.

 

One of them is a beautiful woman in her knickers. The other is an allegedly sexually frustrated American male. 

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PsychedelicTrip, on 15 Dec 2015 - 3:31 PM, said:

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everyone!   I hope everyone is doing well this season!

 

And now a Christmas Card ...

 

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Happy Happy Joy Joy!

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He is a Forrester and there's probably 100 girls that would line up for a chance at him.

I have a feeling Onesie is going to take her place at the front of that line.

 

Also, I noted Liam repeating her nonsense about Ivy "attacking" her. Shut up both of you.

I swear if I didn't like my shoes so much I'd have thrown them at the TV. Who should be afraid of who??? Shut up indeed!
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And now a Christmas Card ...

JOY636.jpg

Happy Happy Joy Joy!

^Oh my gods! THAT'S how I feel when I watch Y&R! I couldn't find the words to describe it, but there it is!

This whole Steffy-Ivy thing is now officially cracking me up! So now that Steffy concedes that they are, in fact, family, can she send the memo to Thomas?

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This whole Steffy-Ivy thing is now officially cracking me up! So now that Steffy concedes that they are, in fact, family, can she send the memo to Thomas?

 

 

"Not only is your father my Grandpa's brother, but my brother wants to bone you.  We're family twice over!" 

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And now a Christmas Card ...

 

JOY636.jpg

 

 

Happy Happy Joy Joy!

 

Yup, my feelings when I see Steffy's dragged looking ass on my screen & when I watch YR as someone else posted.   Bell soaps are now officially in a handbag to hell.    

 

I think it's fairly obvious that Julius knocked up the neighbor and Sasha is his little secret daughter he didn't want anyone to know about. 

 

 

This exact same thing happened to my aunt and uncle.  He was boning the next door neighbor and got her and my aunt pregnant at the same time.   Both babies were born merely days apart and no kidding..the daughters/sisters look exactly alike.  My uncle was busted of course, but my aunt stayed with him, in spite of the nasty ordeal, but kicked him out of her bed. My uncle made a good living, and he and my aunt had five other kids together, so divorce was not an option.    I presume my uncle kept banging the neighbor, because she never moved and from what I remember had no husband.  

 

Life can be so strange. 

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I'm tired of watching horny and frustrated Carter and Zende pumping iron and complaining. Maybe a hook-up between those two? That would certainly be a lot more interesting than Zende with either Nicole or new girl. Man, I know it's only been two days, but she stinks as an actress.

 

So now, Steffy and Ivy are family. Right. I think the tables are turned. This time, why should Ivy possibly trust Steffy? Ivy could drop the restraining order, then Steffy would probably turn around and fire her again. It's like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. I hope that at the very least, Steffy gets arrested for calling on Ivy. I didn't really see what happened to Ivy. It looks like she lost her balance and fell while she was reaching for her cell phone. Why try to be stealth about it? I would have pointedly grabbed the phone and said, "Bitch, if you're not out of here by the time I count to 10, I'm calling the police."  Then, when Steffy left in 10 seconds, I still would have called the police. See how that feels, Puff-Face.

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Puffy said something during the Aly video incident too about how she and Ivy are family, didn't she? How is it that Puffy considers Ivy family but Thomas does not? If Thomas doesn't seem to recognise the concept of family, then I have a solution. He and Puffy should get married, to spare each other from anyone else. Then their private jet crashes on the way to Boinkberry Island. Viewers rejoice. Two birds with one stone.

Bradley is a terrible writer, and he has a tendency to recycle plot lines. I don't know how many Cosmopolitans he had drunk when he came up with the Ridge Marone debacle, but I am sensing a repeat performance. Thomas is going to turn out to be the child of Taylor and James Warwick. After he finds out that Ridge isn't his father, he will aggressively go after Caroline.

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^Oh my gods! THAT'S how I feel when I watch Y&R! I couldn't find the words to describe it, but there it is!

This whole Steffy-Ivy thing is now officially cracking me up! So now that Steffy concedes that they are, in fact, family, can she send the memo to Thomas?

Too bad I can only like this post one time. It deserves a minimum of '2 snaps in a circle' of mass approval.

You better work!

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I've watched maybe a total of 20 minutes of B&B in the last couple of months - and I probably wouldn't have even watched that if it weren't for this board.  As mentioned earlier, we are (well, I am) really starved for a good soapy storyline, so in that spirit, I would like to give the poor CBS social media intern assigned to this board my wishlist for 2016.  

 

1) Brooke's smoking hot affair with Loading Dock Guy gets exposed. And LDG's kids aren't crazy about it either.    

2) The viewers find out that Eric is really a Gallifreyan Time Lord and that the Forrester estate is his TARDIS (solving the mystery of the 3 bedroom mansion that magically expands when necessary).

3) $Bill has a heart attack; Liam and Katie bond (okay, I'm not snickering here, really!). 

4) Caroline has PPD and during the course of therapy, ends up in a rape support group by accident.  The group is led by a psychiatrist played by Susan Haskell.  (Come on, Show.  You know this would be great stunt casting. And it might even be a compelling story.) 

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I'm catching up but it would be awesome if Maya has an unknown child from when she was a teen and Myron. She is so obsessed with the perfect baby from the perfect bloodlines and perfect time it would be hilarious is she had some child with some random woman as a teen and it was a total hell raiser. Especially if the daughter was from some Amber Moore type family. If Maya got the girl pregnant at 15 or 16 the child could be close to Nicole's original age.

I also concur the Avants should be the third family and a core group. The actors playing Julius and Vivienne are extremely strong (particularly for daytime) and offer a lot of contrast, nuance, and humor to their scenes.

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1) Brooke's smoking hot affair with Loading Dock Guy gets exposed. And LDG's kids aren't crazy about it either.

I like the way you think, tessaray! Let poor LDG get some action!

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How are the three stooges going to keep the pregnancy out of the media? Are they just going to show up with a baby and not expect anyone to ask questions?

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Thomas is going to turn out to be the child of Taylor and James Warwick. After he finds out that Ridge isn't his father, he will aggressively go after Caroline.

I thought that point happened several years before Thomas's conception, not that it would matter to these monkeys writing the show.

Plus, I doubt Taylor could have gotten away with not telling Ridge about the boink for years if she'D had James's bun in her oven. I doubt even Stephanie was that desperate to have Brooke outta the picture to overlook that.

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Good grief! What part of "restraining order" does Steffy not understand!? Steffy had no business being anywhere near Ivy & Ivy's been hurt again because of it. Of course, Ping-Pong had to spew the party line -to Wyatt, no less- about Ivy's "attacking" Steffy, as if Steffy's breaking her promise to Liam-or rather, one of several promises- to Liam to mind her own business where Wyvy was concerned had nothing to do with it.  If this latest fuck-up doesn't lead to Steffy doing the perp walk, then nothing will.

 

  Re Sasha and the so-called "actress" playing her, she's so bad she makes JMW look like Meryl Streep.

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JMW's been getting a bit of a break when it comes to memorizing her lines.  For now, all she needs to remember is:

1) It was an accident!

2) We are family!

3) Wake up Ivy!!!

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The best part of the Sasha character, for me, is the daily mystery as to how my program guide will have her name listed.  She's only been here, what, three days, and I've already seen Sasa, Saha, and Saya.  

 

Also, the guide lists the stars as KKL, JMW, and TK.  I demand to know who made that decision. 

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The best part of the Sasha character, for me, is the daily mystery as to how my program guide will have her name listed. She's only been here, what, three days, and I've already seen Sasa, Saha, and Saya.

Also, the guide lists the stars as KKL, JMW, and TK. I demand to know who made that decision.

Yesterday she showed up on mine as, "Sash."

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KKL, DD, HTom, RS and SK have to be wondering if they're even part of the show anymore.  The last time I remember seeing Brooke was a token appearance at Thanksgiving, and she's done nothing significant since she got back from Italy (the drinking thing doesn't count) months ago.  $Bill and Katie were last seen in their underwear some time back, and I don't even remember the last time Quin and Deacon were on screen.  Thanksgiving, maybe?  Of course their needs to be a younger generation but that shouldn't come at the expense of the people who have carried this show for years. 

 

Sasha and Zende have shown more chemistry in their few minutes together than Nicole and Zende have in months.  It's too bad Maya and Nicole are the only Avant children because they are so, so boring.  Surely there are Avant nieces, nephews, cousins, etc., who are accomplished people in their own right, and who are not interested in being gold-digging social climbers like Maya and Nicole (and apparently Sasha), who could come on board?  I swear, this show is nothing if not a look into Brad Bell's very warped assumptions about people in a different social class than the ultra-wealthy.

 

Was Wyatt's mention of the rival fashion house another trial balloon or salt for the wound?  I'm still bitter that story didn't happen.

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Bell likes when sibs/family members steal men and women that aren't available. If Sasha is their half-sister, it falls right in line for her to push up on Zende. Oddly I'm liking the Sasha/Zende vibe. They definitely have chemistry. She's not the best actress, but she can improve. At best, she's livening things up a little.

Puffles is getting arrested. Thank you writers. Now where's Ridge? Your daughter is being arrested, and she's the president. I believe that will send more waves than Thomas smashing an intern. I'm sure someone will be there to record her being escorted out in handcuffs.

I used to like Ivy, but she saw what Steffy did to Aly. At no point in 5-6 months did she ever act like she was scared after witnessing that. What is the end goal now?

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I didn't see yesterday's show, but why was Sasha (a stranger to everyone but Nicole) in someone's office alone and in her undies at the start of today's show?

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I didn't see yesterday's show, but why was Sasha (a stranger to everyone but Nicole) in someone's office alone and in her undies at the start of today's show?

Nicole left her alone while she performed one of her duties as an intern. Sasha couldn't resist trying on the couture dress. Zende thought Nicole was back there and got an eyeful.

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I didn't see yesterday's show, but why was Sasha (a stranger to everyone but Nicole) in someone's office alone and in her undies at the start of today's show?

Nicole brought her to Forrester to show her where she works. She brought her to the office she shares with others, and name dropped that Liam and Wyatt stopped by often. To which Sasha said something like "they're so hotttttt!!"

Which is curious to me, I've never understood why these family members of Forrester International and Spencer Publications are so famous. I get Hope, because she was a model/spokesperson whatever. But all of these other designers and grunts, I find it highly unlikely they'd be so famous. I don't think I'd be able to recognise more than one designer in real life.

But to answer your question, Nicole forgot she had promised to bring a shoebox of designs to Rick or something. She left and said she'd be right back. There was this rack of couture gowns there. Sashay couldn't resist and went behind the screen and threw her dress over it. Zzzzzzzende walked in, thought it was Nicole, and saw Sasha in her underwear.

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I've never seen Lt. Baker look so happy.

 

Liam/Quinn/Rick/Caroline/Ridge/Thomas, Ivy needs to learn that as an F/C employee you are expected to work with those who've tried to kill/injure you.

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What's with Wyatt? Is he also drinking the Steffy Kool Aid. Wyatt you could have been more sympathetic to Ivy's fear. It's only been a day so give Ivy some support until she can get over her shock. Steffy is like a a 2 year old who doesn't understand the meaning of no. Liam can reprimand Steffy to he is blue in the face. Steffy only hears bla bla bla. Lt Baker seemed to enjoy arresting Steffy as much as he does eating hot dogs.

ETA: Sasha, while she has a good body, I don't find her all that pretty. I think it has something to do with the shape of her mouth. Is she going to be another Thomas and go after Zende because there is no ring on his finger or is she going the whole ten yards and jump Thomas' bones.

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I'm glad that Nicole finally explained about the communal office. FC is kinda like the manse in that it only has a few rooms. /eyeroll.

 

Off to watch today's show.

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Bell is too busy eating Chicken Paprikash and drinking 80 proof Hungarian wine while his wife plays at being the US Ambassador to Hungary, despite the fact that she'd never been there before and doesn't speak the language. So I guess you can say that Bell is literally mailing it in when it comes to scripts.

As to Steffy's hair, at least she hasn't shaved one half of her head and dyed the rest purple, as so many of her generation seem to like to do.

I've come to the conclusion that Carter is only on the show to be shirtless and to show his pecs.

Steffy is going to become B&B's version of Victor Newman. No matter what she does, she will never face consequences.

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Lt. Baker telling Bratz she's under arrest for violating the temporary restraining order made my day. Watching the "actress" trying to force the botox into a laughable approximation of expression was an added bonus.

Wyatt, I still like you for now. Don't make me regret it.

Saha, Sasha, whothehellcares reminds me of a broke ass Alicia Keys. However, she does bring more heat with Zzzzzzz than Nicole.ever did.

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ByTor, on 16 Dec 2015 - 7:48 PM, said:

Lt Baker eating that hot dog was the best part of today's show.

 

Best scene with a chilidog eva!

 

 

Mr.Stunt's favorite Christmas tree and song ...

 

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It was Christmas Eve babe

In the drunk tank

An old man said to me, won't see another one

And then he sang a song

The Rare Old Mountain Dew

I turned my face away

And dreamed about you

-- Fairytale Of New York by The Pogues

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Steffy is going to become B&B's version of Victor Newman. No matter what she does, she will never face consequences.

As much as I hate Victor Newman, especially in light of recent developments on the decomposing carcass that passes for William Bell's creation, I wouldn't insult TGVN by comparing him to this character. That would imply Steffy always won and honest....until KM left, that just wasn't true. The two characters lost babies within months of one another and Steffy's miscarriage story was blitz through compared to Hope's where even $Bill (the only person that gave her more grief than even Bratz) had a moment with her at the hospital.

More importantly however is that once upon a time, Victor was actually an engaging and even rootable character at times. You could understand his motivations and even cared about his children and Nikki. At her best, Steffy was boring, always being defined in terms of whomever she was dating or trying to steal from his SO at the time. The last time she had any marginal cred as a heroine was when Rick was using her to get to Ridge--and I say marginal because PHOEBE DIED BECAUSE SHE WAS PISSED AT RICK FOR USING HER THE FIRST TIME.

No, I reserve the TGVN comparison only for the original Stephanie Forrester. Given the many rapes Victurd is responsible for,the comparison is more apt than ever. #sorrynotsorry

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Saha, Sasha, whothehellcares reminds me of a broke ass Alicia Keys. However, she does bring more heat with Zzzzzzz than Nicole.ever did.

Oddly, she reminds me of Ronn Moss.

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bittersweet4149, on 16 Dec 2015 - 9:07 PM, said:

Lt. Baker telling Bratz she's under arrest for violating the temporary restraining order made my day. Watching the "actress" trying to force the botox into a laughable approximation of expression was an added bonus.

 

The gaping mouth JMW manufactured was hilarious.

 

bittersweet4149, on 16 Dec 2015 - 9:07 PM, said:

Wyatt, I still like you for now. Don't make me regret it.

 

Don't put money on him.

 

Wyatt will attempt to weasel a middle ground compromise from others; to protect his own ass with the Forrester's and Forrester Creations. He was asked to try reasoning with Ivy into dropping the restraining order in his discussion with Liam, then he doubles back to support Ivy's position for every statement he made questioning her judgment.

 

bittersweet4149, on 16 Dec 2015 - 9:07 PM, said:

Saha, Sasha, whothehellcares reminds me of a broke ass Alicia Keys. However, she does bring more heat with Zzzzzzz than Nicole.ever did.

 

Yeah, she's no Meryl Streep, but no one on Show is of the same acting caliber as Meryl Streep.

 

I hate her weave/hair clip extensions/whatever the hell they have her swinging around.

 

Sasha was direct and honest about her ambitions in the scenes she had with Julius (Obba Babatunde was gracious to allow her to be the focus of the scene and she responded well to his understated style -- her snarking and laughing was natural amusement at his demands), and she was the more interesting and animated character with Nicole and Zende (both dull waxworks). When Zende discovered her behind the dressing screen he was frozen and wooden, while Sasha naturally and brazenly showed off her wares (Grrl has it goin' on and knows how to use it).

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